Proof Qur'an-alone is Error
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You think those ayaat are directed to me ? I thought I was clear about Muhammad not beign equal to god (how could the creator equal the created ?)
Think about that
Have We not expanded for you your breast,
And taken off from you your burden,
Which pressed heavily upon your back,
And exalted for you your esteem? or and granted you an exalted reputation? or And raised high your fame?To whom are directed these verses ?
Please read the post # 410, you may find many examples of those who are mentioned in 2165
May Allah open our hearts to understand the Truth.
Mohammed M. Khan -
Salaaman Harris,
Soo, that makes it acceptable? And you can't fathom anything wrong with that eh?
Such childish reasoning... i'll make it simpler for you to comprehend.... If ur the great CEO of a big multinational company and people who visit your office see the name of a low level labourer on the door, wat wud u say? "Oh gee... it doesn't matter, coz nobody talks to the name plate...."
Ok let me get this straight... Spiderman is saying that EVERYBODY knows that the hadiths are actually NOT sacred NOR divine, but somehow feels it is extremely important to follow every word mentioned in them? Plz enlighten us how this twisted logic works.
Thank you brother... Thanks for putting on images and great contribution sun
May Allah guide us all towards the Truth.
Mohammed M. Khan -
hahaha! good one leyna
Now coming back to Spiderman Badr who is one of the key protectors of the sunni faith on this forum....
Soo, that makes it acceptable? And you can't fathom anything wrong with that eh? Whom are you fooling?
http//www.islamicjewellery.co.uk/images/l_vp08.jpgSuch childish reasoning... i'll make it simpler for you to comprehend.... If ur the great CEO of a big multinational company and people who visit your office see the name of a low level labourer on the door, wat wud u say? "Oh gee... it doesn't matter, coz nobody talks to the name plate...."
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So you are associating Muhammad to a low level labourer ? I hope one day you'll realise all what he did for you.
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are you really a sunni or just acting like one for the sake of a debate?
http//www.muslimbabynames.net/prophetnames.asp
http//www.ezsoftech.com/islamic/infallible1f.asp
http//www.islam786.org/99namesofmuhammad.htmThis has nothing to do with islam, let me tell you something, even the 99 names of Allah is bidaa, allah dont have only 99 names.
Ok let me get this straight... Spiderman is saying that EVERYBODY knows that the hadiths are actually NOT sacred NOR divine, but somehow feels it is extremely important to follow every word mentioned in them? Plz enlighten us how this twisted logic works.
The form aint divine, the content is.
Looks like un-'knowingly' Spiderman badr seems to act so ignorant about the shirks of sunnism.... Either he's just playing dumb or....
he just needs to grow a beard! lolHere's how! rotfl
http//fc05.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/335/b/c/What_if_Spider_man_had_a_beard_by_supernitro.jpgThat's an option too.
P.S. I wonder wat the custodians of the sunni faith think about people who watch movies and cartoons showing western mythical heroes like superman, spiderman and powerpuff girls who've got 'super-powers'....
such things are totally haraam wouldn't u say? policepeace to all.
I'm not following the custodians of the sunni faith, I am following the hadeeth of rasool allah.
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P.S. I wonder wat the custodians of the sunni faith think about people who watch movies and cartoons showing western mythical heroes like superman, spiderman and powerpuff girls who've got 'super-powers'....
such things are totally haraam wouldn't u say? policeAbsolutely haraam and absurd! I can't imagine anything less Islamic than girls with super powers; we all know women are weak, fragile beings who need to be protected and cared for by the men in their life. Besides, a girl with super powers would hardly be obedient to her husband, which, as I'm sure you know, is an important Islamic requirement.
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You think those ayaat are directed to me ? ) I thought I was clear about Muhammad not beign equal to god (how could the creator equal the created ?)
You think not all Quran is directed at you as a LESSON to be learned from the examples Allah has given? You may SAY this all you like but the rest of you deceives your tongue.
Think about that
Have We not expanded for you your breast,
And taken off from you your burden,
Which pressed heavily upon your back,
And exalted for you your esteem? or and granted you an exalted reputation? or And raised high your fame?To whom are directed these verses ?
and there we have the rest of you deceiving what your tongue said above.
These verses are speaking of Muhammed, he had an exalted reputation and fame among the people of that time, he was the prophet of God and there were no others at that time and place, there are numerous verses telling you he was not exalted about other messengers and not to make any distincton, yet still you try to prove otherwise while saying with your tongue "I thought I was clear about Muhammad not beign equal to god"
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Absolutely haraam and absurd! I can't imagine anything less Islamic than girls with super powers; we all know women are weak, fragile beings who need to be protected and cared for by the men in their life. Besides, a girl with super powers would hardly be obedient to her husband, which, as I'm sure you know, is an important Islamic requirement.
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rotfl
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No you're not.
You follow conjecture, as pointed at to you several times. You follow hadith attributed to the Messenger via a broken, unreliable and utterly subjective referencing system.
Exactly! The hadith of rasool are clearly IN Quran and what he was told to "Say" by Allah.
Badr, the prophet was only a medium for the message, his duty was to deliver the message, the message is from Allah, not Muhammed or anyone else, ALLAH. We are told to follow the message, the messenger followed the message to the letter and it is there for us to follow it too, the MESSAGE from ALLAH. Following conjecture is what you are warned against in the message itself, the ONLY 100% sure 'hadith' of the messenger is what he was TOLD to "say" by Allah and it is in Quran.
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So you are associating Muhammad to a low level labourer ? I hope one day you'll realise all what he did for you.
Exactly my point! Ppl like you have been brain-washed for so long that you can never imagine the fact that the prophet was just another ordinary person who lived and died. He did not personally do any favors. He was chosen for being righteous and thus became an instrument in the spreading of the one message like all the messengers chosen before him.
What's interesting is how you were immediately so hurt when the messenger was classed at a level much below GOD. Don't you realize your folly? You cannot fathom the reality..
The funny part is even your hadiths say the same thing and yet you cannot accept it
Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 654
Narrated 'UmarI heard the Prophet saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave."
Every single human on earth is nothing more than a slave of Allah (a slave is ofcourse even below the level of a labourer). Try to accept that fact sooner or later.
PEACE.Say "I am but a man like yourselves, (but) the inspiration has come to me, that your Allah is one Allah whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner.
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Loks like this spideer man is a sikh D
Sikh or sick, with that long beard of his, this spiderman would be more comfortable being superman or shall we say Super-Beard D
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Absolutely haraam and absurd! I can't imagine anything less Islamic than girls with super powers; we all know women are weak, fragile beings who need to be protected and cared for by the men in their life. Besides, a girl with super powers would hardly be obedient to her husband, which, as I'm sure you know, is an important Islamic requirement.
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Ofcourse! Guess superheroes whether male or female wont be haraam if they all get together in an acceptable way
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peace to all. O0
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As salamu alaykum,
with all due Respect.@ mmkhan.
If Badr wants to have a picture of a Spiderman, then he has a free will to choose that.
Also, re-check Qur'an 4911.@ Leyna.
I don't quite agree with you there.
No disrespect but have you seen Wonder Woman? barbara Eden was playing genie in a bottle better then Bush led the country. She just blinked and got them the wish. Special agent Dana Scully. Nearly human terminator Sarah Connor. The way she handles a gun ....
Then we have Princess Leia Organa.
Have you seen Sin City? Man, I gotta watch that again. Miho rocks!
CatWoman,
Lieutenant Ripley,
Halle Berry in X-Men and Famke Hanssen.
Plenty more.All I'm saying here is this men and women are equal and men don't always must take care of women. In The West, women have same freedom as men so the equality is seen and acceptable. Women are not weak. Women are strong, sometimes stronger then certain men. There are also women bodybuilders. Women in the army.
You know, in 1989 I actually wanted to marry Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio after I saw her in The Abyss.
No disrespect, sister.
Peace.
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Salaaman Alen,
As salamu alaykum,
with all due Respect.@ mmkhan.
If Badr wants to have a picture of a Spiderman, then he has a free will to choose that.
Also, re-check Qur'an 4911.Thanks a lot for reminding me of 4911
Alhamdulillah brother, I am aware of 4911, inshaAllah, I don't laugh at anyone. You might have mistaken, please scroll and check my above posts, if you find any, please feel free to correct me.
I laughed at the picture of spider-man with beard, that looks so funny to me.
Thanks again for your concern brother.
May Allah guide us all towards the Truth.
with all due respect.
Mohammed M. Khan -
As salamu alaykum,
with all due Respect.@ mmkhan.
If Badr wants to have a picture of a Spiderman, then he has a free will to choose that.
Also, re-check Qur'an 4911.Salaam brothers,
Thanks Alen for reminding us about sura 4911. The only problem with the situation is that 'they' don't accept 'us' as brothers but instead look down upon us as some mislead followers of satan. -
As salamu alaykum,
with all due Respect.@ Jack.
Okay, no problem, thanks for reminding me and God Bless you.
Sister Leyna, my apologies then.@ Harris.
Don't worry. We then should not be like them. I think and also strongly believe that we should and maybe even must be a not only a better example but example in general, so that all can see it. I'm sorry for speaking for the majority but at the moment I see two really huge problems- We are seperating ourselves into "us" and "them". We should be uniting and look for ways to get together and eliminate the differences. All that stands in the way, are the books written by those men. hadeeth by Bukhary & co. We're at war with sunnah and ahdeeth and not with "them". God knows Best.
- The non-muslims see terrorists in us. That's not good. I'm not saying in all of us but sometimes in most of us. That's not good. One man just wanted to burn The Qur'an. See what happened? Salman Rushdie narrated hadeeth and they issued a fatwa. Person makes a exit from Islam - Allah SWT guides whomever He wants - but sometimes such a person dies under the hands of the men that misunderstand The Qur'an and rather follow books written by men.
No disrespect, brother Harris but I have several friends who are non-muslims, they're christians and they see a good example in certain muslims, Thank God and this is still very small step but Thank God we have began, AlhamdilAllah.
No disrespect, amigo.God Bless you.
Peace.