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    Badr
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    Is it mentioned in detail in some hadith? Please quote that for general public benefit.

    It was narrated by Al-Bukhari that Prophet Muhammad r said
    (?Perform your Sal?h (prayers) in the same manner as you have seen me doing?).

    Therefore, here is the explanation for the Prophet?s manner of prayer To perform completely the Wudu (ablution), adopting the method commanded by Allah in the Qur??n

    ?O you who believe! When you intend to offer prayer, wash your faces and your hands (forearms) up to the elbows, rub (by passing wet hands over) your heads, and (wash) your feet up to ankles.?

    The Prophet r said
    (?Sal?h (prayer) without purification (ablution) is not accepted.?)

    To start the prayer follow these steps

    1. To turn one?s face and the whole body towards the Ka?ba, the Sacred House at Makkah, intending by heart to perform the prayer which he/she wants to fulfill, whether it is a Fard (obligatory) prayer or a Sunnah (optional) prayer, the worshipper in all cases, should not pronounce his/her Niyah (intention) openly, because neither the Prophet r nor his Companions used to utter the intention for Sal?h. Thus, pronouncing the intention for Salah in audible voice is a heresy and an illicit action, intention must be in the heart only. Whether the individual be an Im?m or performs his Sal?h individually, he should make a Sutra (i.e. a curtain for his Sal?h).

    2. Directing the face towards the Qiblah (the Ka?ba at Makkah) is an imperative condition for every Salah. However, there are few exceptions for this rule for instance if the Muslim can not face Qiblah due to sickness or does not know the direction of of Makkah .

    3. To pronounce Takbirat-al-Ihram that is to say Allahu Akbar (Allah is Great) proclaiming by that the Greatness of Allah and looking meanwhile, downwards to the place where he/she will prostrate.
      To raise one?s hands up to the level of the shoulders or near to the lobes of the ears, while pronouncing Takbirat-al-Ihram.

    4. To put one?s right hand over his/her left hand and left wrist, and put them both over the chest, as the Prophet r used to do.

    5. It is advisable that the worshipper recites Du`aa al-Istiftah (opening supplication) saying

    ?Subhanaka Allahumma wa bihamdika wa tabaraka ismuka wata aala jadduka wala ilaha ghayruka.? (?Praise and glory is to Allah. Blessed is Your Name, Exalted is Your Majesty and Glory. There is no god but You.?) Or he may say any other of the supplications which the Prophet r used to say in his prayers. After reciting the opening supplication, the worshipper says ?A?dhu billahi min ashaytan arrajeem?
    (?I seek protection of Allah against the accursed Satan?)
    Then say
    ?Bismillahi Arrahmani Arraheem?
    (?In the Name of Allah, the source of mercy and the Merciful.?)
    and recites the F?tiha (the opening Surah of the Glorious Qur??n). Prophet Muhammad r said

    (?Sal?h without reciting the Fatiha is invalid?).
    The worshipper should say Ameen after reciting the F?tiha loudly if the Sal?h is to be said loudly, and whisper it in inaudible prayers. the worshipper is advised to recite verses from medium size Surah of the Qur??n after recitation of the Fatiha.
    Then, the worshipper bows in Ruk? raising hands up to the level of his/her shoulders or ears while saying Allahu Akbar (Allah is Great) then bends down, making his head and back on one level and putting his hands with the fingers spread on his knees. The worshipper should feel serenity and tranquility while bowing, he should say thrice
    ?Subhana Rabbi Al`Adhim?
    (?Glory is to my Lord, the All-Mighty.?)
    It is advisable to say while bowing in addition to that

    ?Subhanaka Allahumma Rabbana wabi hamdika, Allahumma eghfir li? (?Glory is to You O Allah, Our Lord, I praise You, forgive me my sins.?)

    1. To raise one?s head up from bowing, raising one?s hands to the level of his shoulders or ears, saying, in case of being Im?m or praying alone
      ?Sami`a Allahu liman hamidah?.
      ?Allah listens to him who praises Him?.
      While resuming the standing position, he/she may say

    ?Rabbana wa laka alhamd,
    (?Our Lord, praise is for You?)
    The worshipper is advised to put his hands on his chest, as he had done before he bowed, but if the worshipper did not put his hands on his chest, the prayer still valid.

    1. To prostrate saying Allahu Akbar (Allah is Great). He should touch the ground with his knees before touching it with his hands, if that is possible to him. If not, he is permitted to touch the ground by his hands before his knees. His fingers and toes should be directed towards the Qiblah at Makkah, and his hands should be stretched, and the fingers close together and not separated. In Sajdah (prostration), the worshipper should use and keep on ground these seven organs
      The forehead, the nose, both hands, both knees and the internal parts of the toes.
      These seven organs should touch the ground. Then the worshipper should say thrice
      ?Subhana Rabbi Al Aa`la?
      (?Glorified is my Lord, the Exalted.?)
      It is advisable to say

    ?Subhanaka Allahumma Rabbana wa bi hamdika,Allahumaghfirli.?
    (?Glory is to You O Allah, Our Lord, I praise You. Our Lord, forgive me my sins.?)
    It is recommendable for the worshipper say more supplications while in sojood and ask for more from his Lord, because the Prophet r said
    ?As for Ruk?? (bowing), you should glorify your Lord during performing it; as for Sojood (prostration), you should do your best to supplicate and ask for more from Him, because your supplications during prostration are more worthy to be accepted.? The worshipper should ask his Lord for prosperity both in this worldly life and in the Hereafter. Whether it is an obligatory prayer or an optional prayer, the worshipper, while prostrating, should neither bring his hands close to his sides, nor stick his abdomen to his thighs, or his thighs to his legs. The worshipper?s arms should be raised up from the ground because the Prophet r prohibited putting the arms and stretching them on the ground, ordering that ?adjust your prostration, keep straight in it, and stretch not your hands on the ground as dogs do.?

    1. He should raise his head from prostration saying Allahu Akbar and lay his left foot flat on the ground and sit upon it, keeping his right foot erected, his hands on his thighs and knees, and say

    ?O my Lord, forgive me, have mercy on me, guide me, provide me with Your sustenance, save me and console me.?

    1. To prostrate again saying Allahu Akbar and repeating during his prostration what he did and said in the first prostration.

    10.Then the worshipper raises his head saying Allahu Akbar after taking a pause similar to the pause between the two prostrations; this is called Jalsat-al-Istir?hah (the pause for rest). It is recommended for the worshipper to do such a pause, but there is no sin if he desists from it. Then the worshipper rises up and stands supporting on his knees, or on the ground if he cannot support himself on the knees, reads the F?tiha (the opening Surah of the Glorious Qur??n) and some other verses of the Qur??n and do as just as he did in the first Raka (unit of prayer). Those who pray behind the Im?m should not compete with him in the prayer actions as the Prophet r said ?The Im?m is to be followed, if he says Allahu Akbar (Allah is Great), then say the same after him. If he bows in Ruk??, bow after him. If he says Samiallahu liman hamidah (Allah hears him who praises Him), then say Rabbana wa lakal-hamd (Our Lord! All praises are for You); and if he prostrates, then prostrate after him.?

    11.If the prayer consists of two Rak`a (two units of prayer) as the Fajr (morning) prayer, Eid (feast) prayer, or the Jumuah (Friday) prayer, the worshipper sits after the second prostration, with his right foot erect, sitting on his left foot laid down, putting his right hand on his right thigh, all his fingers close-fisted except the index finger which he uses to point out as a sign for his Monotheistic Belief, and his left hand is put on his left thigh. There is nothing in the way, if the worshipper keeps both the little and ring fingers closed, while rounding his thumb and middle finger in a ring-shape, and uses his index finger to point out as a sign for his Monotheistic Belief. It has been related that the Prophet r had practiced both of these ways, thus, it is advisable for the worshipper to perform the first way once and the other on the second time.
    The worshipper reads the Tashahhud while sitting and says
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    ?Attahiyatu lillahi wassalawatu wattaiyibat assalamu alayka aiyuha annabiyu wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu. Assalamu alaina wa ala ibadillahis- salihin. Ash-hadu an Ia ilaha illa Allah wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan abduhu wa ras?luh. Allahumma salli ala Muhammad wa ala aali Muhammad, kama sallayata ala Ibrahim wa aali Ibrahim. Innaka Hameedun Majeed. Wa barik ala Muhammad wa ala aali Muhammad kama barakta ala Ibrahim wa aali Ibrahim. Innaka Hameedun Majeed.?
    (?Greetings, prayers and the good things of life belong to Allah. Peace, mercy and blessing of Allah be on you, O Prophet. May peace be upon us and on the devout slaves of Allah. I testify that there is no God but Allah and I testify that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger. O Allah, bless Muhammad and his family as You blessed Abraham and his family. You are the Most Praised, The Most Glorious. O Allah, bestow Your grace on Muhammad and his family as You bestowed it on Abraham and his family. You are the Most Praised, The Most Glorious.?)
    After reciting the Tashahhud, the worshipper asks Allah?s protection from four evils, he should say

    ?My Lord, I ask your protection from torment of the Hell, torment of the grave, the trials in lifetime and after death, and from the impostor Al-Maseeh Addajjal (Antichrist).?
    The worshipper may ask Allah for prosperity in this worldly life and in the Hereafter, supplicate Allah to bestow His favours on his parents and other Muslims. He could do this in both obligatory and optional prayers. It has been narrated by Ibn Mas?ud that the Prophet r taught him how to recite the Tashahhud and told him that the worshipper should invoke Allah and ask Him for the more beloved wishes which he likes, or, as it has been related in other wordings, the worshipper should ask Allah for whatever he wishes. In this manner, the slave can ask Allah for all the prosperities of this worldly life and the life to come. The worshipper terminates his Salah by turning his face first to the right and second to the left saying in both

    ?As-salamu alaikum wa rahmatullah?
    (?Peace and mercy of Allah be on you.?)

    12.In case of a three Raka prayer (prayer consisting of three units) as that of Maghrib (evening) prayer, or a four Raka prayer like that of Zuhr (noon) prayer, Asr (afternoon) prayer, and Ish? (night) prayer; the worshipper stands up after reciting the Tashahhud according to the manner stated before, and raises his hands upto the level of his shoulders saying Allahu Akbar . The worshipper puts his hands over his chest as it had been explained before and recites only the F?tiha. There is no objection if he adds to the F?tiha some other verses of the Qur??n while performing the third or fourth Raka of Zuhr (noon) prayer, because this was stated to be one of the manners adopted by the Prophet r according to the Hadeeth (tradition) narrated by Ab? Sa?ied.
    After the third Raka of Maghrib (evening) prayer, and the fourth Raka of Zuhr (noon), Asr (afternoon) and `Ish? (night) prayers, the worshipper recites the Tashahhud and terminates his Sal?t by saying

    ?Assalamu-alaikum wa rahmatullah?
    While turning first to the right, and second to the left as it has been explained before, by doing the salaam, the salah is finished.

    Important notes

    1. During the prayer all recitation and reading must be in Arabic
    2. There is no difference between man and woman in all actions of the prayer.
    3. r ? ? P.B.U.H. (Peace Be Upon Him)
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      Ws,

      About 40/70

      1. there's no word 'anything' there. It's literally they reject with the book and with what we sent with it our messengers.

      2. 40/69 talks about people who reject the 'signs of Allah'. Therefore whatever is mentioned in 40/70 must be under the subset of 40/70.

      3. So if we talk 'the book' to be a scripture, then whatever else signs must be the signs in the horizon and in themselves (41/53). The messengers showed these signs to the people but we rejected.

      The quran simply does not accept another source of authority besides itself.


      I think u can have full answer in following two great link why Quran alone is not an error but the TRUTH

      http//smalur.com/26O

      http//smalur.com/1*_

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        Peace "Badr",

        IMU and reasonably so the Quran deliberately doesnt specify any particular method of prayer and how to bow and do ruku. We're free to do those as we feel. Moreso there is no limit to the details one can ask for. Even given all details in hadith you can still ask "How fast should one bow?" "with what accelration should one bow"? and so on infinitely. The Quran explains this behavior well here
        267-71. This shows that what counts with GOD is the INTENTION, so you are free to decide the best details with the basic commands and terms provided with. GOD Bless!

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          Badr
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          Peace "Badr",

          JK- Could you quote the hadith here and state which Arabic term was translated as "intoxicants" in that hadith? GOD Bless!

          5339 - - - "

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            Badr
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            Peace "Badr",

            IMU and reasonably so the Quran deliberately doesnt specify any particular method of prayer and how to bow and do ruku. We're free to do those as we feel. Moreso there is no limit to the details one can ask for. Even given all details in hadith you can still ask "How fast should one bow?" "with what accelration should one bow"? and so on infinitely. The Quran explains this behavior well here
            267-71. This shows that what counts with GOD is the INTENTION, so you are free to decide the best details with the basic commands and terms provided with. GOD Bless!

            this is where the intention comes into play.

            ps why do you always put my name between ""? it is my real name.

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              Peace "Badr",

              Ok I see the term "msukur(root Siin-Kaf-Ra)" being used there which basically can mean the same and also has a variety of meanings like
              intoxicated, inebriated, drunken, violent/angry, full/still/motionless/calm, abolish, do away with, be dim, dazzled, rage against, be confused of judgement, bewildered, hindrance, bar, obstacle, obstruction, prevention, brake or stoppage between a person and his understanding and wits and he takes a wrong decision, become silly or blockhead, fail to understand, become cursed in intellect, lose one's wits, dam, to shut or close up, burn/hot, dazzle/cover/confuse, grief, any disturbing element which may distract one's attention or observe one's reason, in a state of mental disequilibrium, one who has no sense as he is in raptures of love/passion/amour, sugar, sweet substance, very sweet date, sakr - sugar.

              Compare this with Kha-Miim-Ra
              cover/conceal/veil, becoming changed/altered from a former state/condition, mixed/mingled/incorporated/blended, intoxication/wine/grapes, make-up, any intoxicating thing that clouds/obscures the intellect, come upon secretly/unexpectedly, crowding of people, odour of perfume, women's head cover, man's turban, something fermented/matured.

              GOD Bless!

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                this is where the intention comes into play.

                JK- Yes and so the details are not the important factor. Say we understand salat as prayer and we have some idea of what prayer means and we perform it in whatever way WITHIN the boundaries laid out by the Quran. Perfectly fine. Nothing more needed.

                ps why do you always put my name between ""? it is my real name.

                JK- I do this to HIGHLIGHT it so the one addressed can see it better. GOD Bless!

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                  Badr
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                  Peace "Badr",

                  Ok I see the term "msukur(root Siin-Kaf-Ra)" being used there which basically can mean the same and also has a variety of meanings like
                  intoxicated, inebriated, drunken, violent/angry, full/still/motionless/calm, abolish, do away with, be dim, dazzled, rage against, be confused of judgement, bewildered, hindrance, bar, obstacle, obstruction, prevention, brake or stoppage between a person and his understanding and wits and he takes a wrong decision, become silly or blockhead, fail to understand, become cursed in intellect, lose one's wits, dam, to shut or close up, burn/hot, dazzle/cover/confuse, grief, any disturbing element which may distract one's attention or observe one's reason, in a state of mental disequilibrium, one who has no sense as he is in raptures of love/passion/amour, sugar, sweet substance, very sweet date, sakr - sugar.

                  Compare this with Kha-Miim-Ra
                  cover/conceal/veil, becoming changed/altered from a former state/condition, mixed/mingled/incorporated/blended, intoxication/wine/grapes, make-up, any intoxicating thing that clouds/obscures the intellect, come upon secretly/unexpectedly, crowding of people, odour of perfume, women's head cover, man's turban, something fermented/matured.

                  GOD Bless!

                  ;D i feel like talking with a robot.

                  honestly with all friendship and compassion, forget that site.

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                    JK- Yes and so the details are not the important factor. Say we understand salat as prayer and we have some idea of what prayer means and we perform it in whatever way WITHIN the boundaries laid out by the Quran. Perfectly fine. Nothing more needed.

                    hope it works.

                    what do you think about the quran healing (physically not spiritually) ? it can or it can't ?

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                      It was narrated by Al-Bukhari that Prophet Muhammad r said
                      (?Perform your Sal?h (prayers) in the same manner as you have seen me doing?).

                      Therefore, here is the explanation for the Prophet?s manner of prayer To perform completely the Wudu (ablution), adopting the method commanded by Allah in the Qur??n

                      ?O you who believe! When you intend to offer prayer, wash your faces and your hands (forearms) up to the elbows, rub (by passing wet hands over) your heads, and (wash) your feet up to ankles.?

                      so why is it insisted this is done 3 times and right before left and blowing water out of the nose when this is NOT the method commanded by Allah?

                      it is nice mr Bukhari adopted some of what Allah commanded though. ;D

                      The Prophet r said
                      (?Sal?h (prayer) without purification (ablution) is not accepted.?)

                      To start the prayer follow these steps

                      1. To turn one?s face and the whole body towards the Ka?ba, the Sacred House at Makkah, intending by heart to perform the prayer which he/she wants to fulfill, whether it is a Fard (obligatory) prayer or a Sunnah (optional) prayer, the worshipper in all cases, should not pronounce his/her Niyah (intention) openly, because neither the Prophet r nor his Companions used to utter the intention for Sal?h. Thus, pronouncing the intention for Salah in audible voice is a heresy and an illicit action, intention must be in the heart only. Whether the individual be an Im?m or performs his Sal?h individually, he should make a Sutra (i.e. a curtain for his Sal?h).

                      2. Directing the face towards the Qiblah (the Ka?ba at Makkah) is an imperative condition for every Salah. However, there are few exceptions for this rule for instance if the Muslim can not face Qiblah due to sickness or does not know the direction of of Makkah .
                        2.177 It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness- to believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfil the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the Allah-fearing.

                      3. To pronounce Takbirat-al-Ihram that is to say Allahu Akbar (Allah is Great) proclaiming by that the Greatness of Allah and looking meanwhile, downwards to the place where he/she will prostrate.
                        To raise one?s hands up to the level of the shoulders or near to the lobes of the ears, while pronouncing Takbirat-al-Ihram.

                      4. To put one?s right hand over his/her left hand and left wrist, and put them both over the chest, as the Prophet r used to do.

                      5. It is advisable that the worshipper recites Du`aa al-Istiftah (opening supplication) saying

                      ?Subhanaka Allahumma wa bihamdika wa tabaraka ismuka wata aala jadduka wala ilaha ghayruka.? (?Praise and glory is to Allah. Blessed is Your Name, Exalted is Your Majesty and Glory. There is no god but You.?) Or he may say any other of the supplications which the Prophet r used to say in his prayers. After reciting the opening supplication, the worshipper says ?A?dhu billahi min ashaytan arrajeem?
                      (?I seek protection of Allah against the accursed Satan?)
                      Then say
                      ?Bismillahi Arrahmani Arraheem?
                      (?In the Name of Allah, the source of mercy and the Merciful.?)
                      and recites the F?tiha (the opening Surah of the Glorious Qur??n). Prophet Muhammad r said

                      (?Sal?h without reciting the Fatiha is invalid?).
                      The worshipper should say Ameen after reciting the F?tiha loudly if the Sal?h is to be said loudly, and whisper it in inaudible prayers. the worshipper is advised to recite verses from medium size Surah of the Qur??n after recitation of the Fatiha.
                      Then, the worshipper bows in Ruk? raising hands up to the level of his/her shoulders or ears while saying Allahu Akbar (Allah is Great) then bends down, making his head and back on one level and putting his hands with the fingers spread on his knees. The worshipper should feel serenity and tranquility while bowing, he should say thrice
                      ?Subhana Rabbi Al`Adhim?
                      (?Glory is to my Lord, the All-Mighty.?)
                      It is advisable to say while bowing in addition to that

                      ?Subhanaka Allahumma Rabbana wabi hamdika, Allahumma eghfir li? (?Glory is to You O Allah, Our Lord, I praise You, forgive me my sins.?)

                      1. To raise one?s head up from bowing, raising one?s hands to the level of his shoulders or ears, saying, in case of being Im?m or praying alone
                        ?Sami`a Allahu liman hamidah?.
                        ?Allah listens to him who praises Him?.
                        While resuming the standing position, he/she may say

                      ?Rabbana wa laka alhamd,
                      (?Our Lord, praise is for You?)
                      The worshipper is advised to put his hands on his chest, as he had done before he bowed, but if the worshipper did not put his hands on his chest, the prayer still valid.

                      1. To prostrate saying Allahu Akbar (Allah is Great). He should touch the ground with his knees before touching it with his hands, if that is possible to him. If not, he is permitted to touch the ground by his hands before his knees. His fingers and toes should be directed towards the Qiblah at Makkah, and his hands should be stretched, and the fingers close together and not separated. In Sajdah (prostration), the worshipper should use and keep on ground these seven organs
                        The forehead, the nose, both hands, both knees and the internal parts of the toes.
                        These seven organs should touch the ground. Then the worshipper should say thrice
                        ?Subhana Rabbi Al Aa`la?
                        (?Glorified is my Lord, the Exalted.?)
                        It is advisable to say

                      ?Subhanaka Allahumma Rabbana wa bi hamdika,Allahumaghfirli.?
                      (?Glory is to You O Allah, Our Lord, I praise You. Our Lord, forgive me my sins.?)
                      It is recommendable for the worshipper say more supplications while in sojood and ask for more from his Lord, because the Prophet r said
                      ?As for Ruk?? (bowing), you should glorify your Lord during performing it; as for Sojood (prostration), you should do your best to supplicate and ask for more from Him, because your supplications during prostration are more worthy to be accepted.? The worshipper should ask his Lord for prosperity both in this worldly life and in the Hereafter. Whether it is an obligatory prayer or an optional prayer, the worshipper, while prostrating, should neither bring his hands close to his sides, nor stick his abdomen to his thighs, or his thighs to his legs. The worshipper?s arms should be raised up from the ground because the Prophet r prohibited putting the arms and stretching them on the ground, ordering that ?adjust your prostration, keep straight in it, and stretch not your hands on the ground as dogs do.?

                      1. He should raise his head from prostration saying Allahu Akbar and lay his left foot flat on the ground and sit upon it, keeping his right foot erected, his hands on his thighs and knees, and say

                      ?O my Lord, forgive me, have mercy on me, guide me, provide me with Your sustenance, save me and console me.?

                      1. To prostrate again saying Allahu Akbar and repeating during his prostration what he did and said in the first prostration.

                      10.Then the worshipper raises his head saying Allahu Akbar after taking a pause similar to the pause between the two prostrations; this is called Jalsat-al-Istir?hah (the pause for rest). It is recommended for the worshipper to do such a pause, but there is no sin if he desists from it. Then the worshipper rises up and stands supporting on his knees, or on the ground if he cannot support himself on the knees, reads the F?tiha (the opening Surah of the Glorious Qur??n) and some other verses of the Qur??n and do as just as he did in the first Raka (unit of prayer). Those who pray behind the Im?m should not compete with him in the prayer actions as the Prophet r said ?The Im?m is to be followed, if he says Allahu Akbar (Allah is Great), then say the same after him. If he bows in Ruk??, bow after him. If he says Samiallahu liman hamidah (Allah hears him who praises Him), then say Rabbana wa lakal-hamd (Our Lord! All praises are for You); and if he prostrates, then prostrate after him.?

                      11.If the prayer consists of two Rak`a (two units of prayer) as the Fajr (morning) prayer, Eid (feast) prayer, or the Jumuah (Friday) prayer, the worshipper sits after the second prostration, with his right foot erect, sitting on his left foot laid down, putting his right hand on his right thigh, all his fingers close-fisted except the index finger which he uses to point out as a sign for his Monotheistic Belief, and his left hand is put on his left thigh. There is nothing in the way, if the worshipper keeps both the little and ring fingers closed, while rounding his thumb and middle finger in a ring-shape, and uses his index finger to point out as a sign for his Monotheistic Belief. It has been related that the Prophet r had practiced both of these ways, thus, it is advisable for the worshipper to perform the first way once and the other on the second time.
                      The worshipper reads the Tashahhud while sitting and says
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                      .
                      ?Attahiyatu lillahi wassalawatu wattaiyibat assalamu alayka aiyuha annabiyu wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu. Assalamu alaina wa ala ibadillahis- salihin. Ash-hadu an Ia ilaha illa Allah wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan abduhu wa ras?luh. Allahumma salli ala Muhammad wa ala aali Muhammad, kama sallayata ala Ibrahim wa aali Ibrahim. Innaka Hameedun Majeed. Wa barik ala Muhammad wa ala aali Muhammad kama barakta ala Ibrahim wa aali Ibrahim. Innaka Hameedun Majeed.?
                      (?Greetings, prayers and the good things of life belong to Allah. Peace, mercy and blessing of Allah be on you, O Prophet. May peace be upon us and on the devout slaves of Allah. I testify that there is no God but Allah and I testify that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger. O Allah, bless Muhammad and his family as You blessed Abraham and his family. You are the Most Praised, The Most Glorious. O Allah, bestow Your grace on Muhammad and his family as You bestowed it on Abraham and his family. You are the Most Praised, The Most Glorious.?)
                      After reciting the Tashahhud, the worshipper asks Allah?s protection from four evils, he should say

                      ?My Lord, I ask your protection from torment of the Hell, torment of the grave, the trials in lifetime and after death, and from the impostor Al-Maseeh Addajjal (Antichrist).?
                      The worshipper may ask Allah for prosperity in this worldly life and in the Hereafter, supplicate Allah to bestow His favours on his parents and other Muslims. He could do this in both obligatory and optional prayers. It has been narrated by Ibn Mas?ud that the Prophet r taught him how to recite the Tashahhud and told him that the worshipper should invoke Allah and ask Him for the more beloved wishes which he likes, or, as it has been related in other wordings, the worshipper should ask Allah for whatever he wishes. In this manner, the slave can ask Allah for all the prosperities of this worldly life and the life to come. The worshipper terminates his Salah by turning his face first to the right and second to the left saying in both

                      ?As-salamu alaikum wa rahmatullah?
                      (?Peace and mercy of Allah be on you.?)

                      12.In case of a three Raka prayer (prayer consisting of three units) as that of Maghrib (evening) prayer, or a four Raka prayer like that of Zuhr (noon) prayer, Asr (afternoon) prayer, and Ish? (night) prayer; the worshipper stands up after reciting the Tashahhud according to the manner stated before, and raises his hands upto the level of his shoulders saying Allahu Akbar . The worshipper puts his hands over his chest as it had been explained before and recites only the F?tiha. There is no objection if he adds to the F?tiha some other verses of the Qur??n while performing the third or fourth Raka of Zuhr (noon) prayer, because this was stated to be one of the manners adopted by the Prophet r according to the Hadeeth (tradition) narrated by Ab? Sa?ied.
                      After the third Raka of Maghrib (evening) prayer, and the fourth Raka of Zuhr (noon), Asr (afternoon) and `Ish? (night) prayers, the worshipper recites the Tashahhud and terminates his Sal?t by saying

                      ?Assalamu-alaikum wa rahmatullah?
                      While turning first to the right, and second to the left as it has been explained before, by doing the salaam, the salah is finished.

                      Important notes

                      1. During the prayer all recitation and reading must be in Arabic
                      2. There is no difference between man and woman in all actions of the prayer.
                      3. r ? ? P.B.U.H. (Peace Be Upon Him)

                      so which hadith is all this from? Seems many rules and restrictions have been added that Allah did not give rules and restrictions for in Quran, so you obviously think Quran is not complete, I mean you have all the hadith so why bother at all with Quran?

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                        so why is it insisted this is done 3 times and right before left and blowing water out of the nose when this is NOT the method commanded by Allah?

                        it is nice mr Bukhari adopted some of what Allah commanded though. ;D
                        2.177 It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness- to believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfil the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the Allah-fearing.

                        so which hadith is all this from? Seems many rules and restrictions have been added that Allah did not give rules and restrictions for in Quran, so you obviously think Quran is not complete, I mean you have all the hadith so why bother at all with Quran?

                        this how the prophet prayed from the various sources we have, if you want to try it you're welcome, if not you're welcome too.

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                          this how the prophet prayed from the various sources we have, if you want to try it you're welcome, if not you're welcome too.

                          So you wont answer ANY question? Show me the source so I can see it for myself, show me the hadith. You still haven't shown the hadith for "evey intoxicant is wine and every wine is prohibited" either.

                          If you want to try following what Allah sent for mankind you are welcome, if not you're welcome too, but please don't say we are wrong without providing ANY proof when asked or ANY answers when asked.

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                            So you wont answer ANY question? Show me the source so I can see it for myself, show me the hadith.

                            it was a summary of this book
                            http//www.muslimconverts.com/e-books/The_Prophet%27s_Prayer_Described/index.htm

                            all the sources are in it.

                            You still haven't shown the hadith for "evey intoxicant is wine and every wine is prohibited" either.

                            i did.

                            5339 - - - "

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                              it was a summary of this book
                              http//www.muslimconverts.com/e-books/The_Prophet%27s_Prayer_Described/index.htm

                              all the sources are in it.

                              I can't find this
                              "The Prophet r said
                              (?Sal?h (prayer) without purification (ablution) is not accepted.?)"
                              anywhere in that book. Surely Allah is the one to say whose prayers are accepted or not?

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                                i did.

                                5339 who? Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawood, who? do you have a link? or Book number?

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                                  5339 who? Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawood, who? do you have a link? or Book number?

                                  the three

                                  muslim (5339) http//www.al-eman.com/Hadeeth/viewchp.asp?BID=1&CID=109&SW=%E3%D3%DF%D1#SR1

                                  bukhari (627) http//www.al-eman.com/Hadeeth/viewchp.asp?BID=13&CID=200&SW=%E3%D3%DF%D1#SR1

                                  abu dawood (1863) http//www.al-eman.com/Hadeeth/viewchp.asp?BID=7&CID=58&SW=%E3%D3%DF%D1#SR1

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                                    the three

                                    muslim (5339) http//www.al-eman.com/Hadeeth/viewchp.asp?BID=1&CID=109&SW=%E3%D3%DF%D1#SR1

                                    bukhari (627) http//www.al-eman.com/Hadeeth/viewchp.asp?BID=13&CID=200&SW=%E3%D3%DF%D1#SR1

                                    abu dawood (1863) http//www.al-eman.com/Hadeeth/viewchp.asp?BID=7&CID=58&SW=%E3%D3%DF%D1#SR1

                                    There must be a different numbering system everywhere else in English, and the the actual books too, my bukhari 627 is about prayer not wine. I did find only the abu dawood one online though, not the others. Thank you anyway though.

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                                      peace Badr,

                                      You forgot to respond to reply #84.

                                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                        can you please explain this part ?

                                        Please see Quran 267-71.

                                        Peace
                                        Edip

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                                          Peace "BAdr",

                                          ;D i feel like talking with a robot.

                                          honestly with all friendship and compassion, forget that site.

                                          JK- All of these root meanings are taken from "Lane's Lexicon", one of the most trustworthy classical Arabic dictionaries. GOD Bless!

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