I now submit myself to the Sunnah and the authority of hadith
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I had a dream a week or 2 ago... I saw the Prophet(pbuh) in my dream. I couldn't see any detail in his face and he seemed extremely distant though he was standing right next to me but I undeniably saw the Prophet Muhammad in my dream and no one can convince me otherwise.
At first I didn't even want to believe it it has taken me 2 weeks to accept but now that I have had this dream I am absolutely positive the sahih hadith are true and I must follow the Sunnah.
The crazy thing about this dream is I prayed for a dream from God about 1 or 2 months prior to the dream occurring. I have been on the fence the past 5-7 months about whether or not I need to align my beliefs to the hadith or not but now I am sure I must. I prayed for a dream from God and I prayed for God to show me whether I should embrace the hadith and the Sunnah or stick to only the Qur'an. I now have my answer alhamdullilah.
Let me paraphrase the dream. I was walking along a plain in the alternating between my own body and the form of a large powerful lion. One second I would be walking and look down and see my own arm. The next second I would look down and see large powerful lion paws.
Anyway as I'm walking these little rats kept eating their ways from inside my own body to come out of my body. It was extremely painful I would feel an itch then a pair of teeth would rip its way out of the backside of my flesh. This would happen in my human body and my lion body.
Now as I'm walking these demon-like hell hounds were appearing all around me and giving me menacing looks but I wasn't scared in my lion body only in my human body.
Now suddenly as I'm walking these hell-hounds suddenly turn on me and begin attacking me and killing me. As I'm laying on the ground panicking from fear and dying, a figure of a man appears in the shroud of this intense blazing light and my mind yelled out "Ahmad!" (and in my head it clicked or I decided this was Muhammad) and he came to me and resurrected me by touching me with his light and when I got up he was gone. I'm sure that this was the Prophet the wave of peace that washed over me was so real and palpable when he appeared and the blazing and glorious light he was surrounded by was awe inspiring I might as well have seen him while I was awake.
After that the hell-hounds seemed to quiver at my presence and I soon woke up with that blazing luminous image of Muhammad embedded in my mind's eye. When I awoke I instantly thought of the hadith about seeing the Prophet in dreams and I realized that the dream from God I had prayed for had actually arrived!
Book 029, Number 5639
Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying He who saw me in a dream in fact saw me, for the satan cannot assume my form.Book 029, Number 5637
Abu Qatada reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying He who saw me in dream in fact saw the truth (what is true).angel I could not believe it for I am not devout nor pure but I prayed to God and a couple months later I received the sign I was looking for.
Now after 2 weeks of deliberation and soul-searching I have finally come to terms with what this dream means and I will interpret it for anyone who's interested for when it first happened I was skeptical and reluctant to face reality.
The rats coming outside of my body represent that I was ruining myself from the inside.
I was in a form of a lion because of my forceful and proud personality. I saw myself as a lion in the dream because in reality I see myself as a man's man or someone stronger than most men. I actually like to think of myself as a lion and not a man when I need to feel powerful or confident so there's no coincidence.
I had a false sense of security walking among my enemies in the dream because I was in a strong lion body but still I was quickly destroyed. This shows that the path I was walking was a path where I thought myself powerful enough or self-sufficient to take care of myself.
I thought I could ignore the Sunnah and still walk the right path but I was wrong.
Only after the light of Muhammad touched me was I able to walk the path safely and without fear. This shows that only by embracing the Sunnah am I truly walking the right path and I'm absolutely convinced of the truth of this dream.
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Salaam
Does this make you a Sunni or Shia? The main issue here is which hadiths are correct and then secondly which ones are useful. As "Qur'an-alone" we (most of us) accept that the religious practices described in the Qur'an were passed down. We are the result of not being a "sect", and we are ideally careful and rational about accepting "authority". Read my commentary to understand why. Do you kill apostates now?
Could it be that this dream was simply a dream based on an internal dilemma wherein your conscious sense of pride manifested itself? How do you know what Muhammad (SAW) looked like in real life, because Satan could take the form of anyone you have not met and say he was Muhammad (SAW)... Could Satan take his form minus a few hairs? Are you the only person (whether they are Sunni, Shia, non-Muslim or anything) have dreamt about Muhammad (SAW)? I wonder if some people who have had bad experiences with Muslims have had nightmares about someone they are convinced was the Prophet Muhammad (SAW)?
It is your choice but there are some questions you should be able to answer
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Which hadith do you believe besides the Qur?an (7185, 456, 7750)?
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Why do you change the position of the word ?alone? in 1746 ?? and when you mention your Lord in the Quran alone, they run away in aversion??
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According to 2256, 480, 490 and 929, what is the punishment for apostasy (leaving Islam)?
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Is the Qur?an clear, complete and fully-detailed (6114, 12111)?
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Do you believe that the Qur?an contradicts itself through abrogation despite the fact that the Qur?an itself denies this (3923, 482)? How many abrogations are in the Qur?an?
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Which ending of Prophet Muhammad's (SAW) Final Sermon do you believe?
a) ?I am leaving for you two things that you must uphold, the Qur?an and my Sunnah.? (According to Muwatta 46/3).
b) ?I am leaving for you the Qur?an and my relatives (Ahl Al- Bayt).? (According to Muslim 44/4, Nu 2408; Ibn Hanbal 4/366; Darimi 23/1, Nu 3319).
c) ?I am leaving for you the Qur?an; you shall uphold it.? (According to Muslim 15/19, Nu 1218; Ibn Majah 25/84, Nu 3074; Abu Dawud 11/56, Nu 1905).
What did the prophet leave for us according to the best hadith, i.e., the Qur?an (619,38,114; 548-49; 12111; 3923)?
- You say that the Qur?an needs further explanation from Muhammad (SAW). According to 1789, Who explained it? What percentage of the Qur?an is ?explained? by ahadith? If the ahadith are so important, why did not Allah (SWT) promise to preserve it?
8 ) 12106 says that the majority of believers associates others with Allah (SWT). Why do you think that this is so? Are you in the majority?
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Why do you make distinction amongst Messengers by imitating Muhammad (SAW), but not the Prophet Ibrahim (SAW)? If verse 3321 requires Muhammad?s hadith, then why would not the verses 604-6 require Abraham?s hadith?
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The first ayah of sura 9 declares that an ultimatum is issued from Allah (SWT) and His Messenger. We know that the verses about the ultimatum are entirely from Allah (SWT) because He does not consult Muhammad about the ultimatum. Muhammad?s (SAW) only mission was to deliver Allah?s (SWT) Message (1635, 2454). Thus, the reason that Allah (SWT) included the Messenger in 91 is because he participated as deliverer of the ultimatum. Similarly, because people received Allah?s (SWT) Message through Messengers, they were ordered to obey the Messengers. This is repeated in 93. We also know that the Quran is a permanent messenger (6511), and that the Qur?an is a reminder and deliverer of good news (414, 112). What Muhammad (SAW) decides as Messenger of religious teaching is what Allah (SWT) decides (3336).
Why then do you declare that ?Obey Allah and obey the Messenger? refers to two sources? 459 states that we are to obey Allah and His Messenger, as well as those in authority. If Allah (SWT) is represented by the Qur?an and the Messenger by his interpretation of the Qur?an (ahadith), is Islam a religion authored by at least three different sources? We are thenceforth to refer disagreements to "Allah and His Messenger", thus proving that they are not separate.
You will find them here along with the 5 pillars of Islam
http//allpoetry.com/column/2364738
Prior to that is a little letter I wrote on "World Religion Day". At the end are some ahadith.
I wish you well.
Allah hafiz
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I had a dream a week or 2 ago... I saw the Prophet(pbuh) in my dream. I couldn't see any detail in his face and he seemed extremely distant though he was standing right next to me but I undeniably saw the Prophet Muhammad in my dream and no one can convince me otherwise.
At first I didn't even want to believe it it has taken me 2 weeks to accept but now that I have had this dream I am absolutely positive the sahih hadith are true and I must follow the Sunnah.
The crazy thing about this dream is I prayed for a dream from God about 1 or 2 months prior to the dream occurring. I have been on the fence the past 5-7 months about whether or not I need to align my beliefs to the hadith or not but now I am sure I must. I prayed for a dream from God and I prayed for God to show me whether I should embrace the hadith and the Sunnah or stick to only the Qur'an. I now have my answer alhamdullilah.
Let me paraphrase the dream. I was walking along a plain in the alternating between my own body and the form of a large powerful lion. One second I would be walking and look down and see my own arm. The next second I would look down and see large powerful lion paws.
Anyway as I'm walking these little rats kept eating their ways from inside my own body to come out of my body. It was extremely painful I would feel an itch then a pair of teeth would rip its way out of the backside of my flesh. This would happen in my human body and my lion body.
Now as I'm walking these demon-like hell hounds were appearing all around me and giving me menacing looks but I wasn't scared in my lion body only in my human body.
Now suddenly as I'm walking these hell-hounds suddenly turn on me and begin attacking me and killing me. As I'm laying on the ground panicking from fear and dying, a figure of a man appears in the shroud of this intense blazing light and my mind yelled out "Ahmad!" (and in my head it clicked or I decided this was Muhammad) and he came to me and resurrected me by touching me with his light and when I got up he was gone. I'm sure that this was the Prophet the wave of peace that washed over me was so real and palpable when he appeared and the blazing and glorious light he was surrounded by was awe inspiring I might as well have seen him while I was awake.
After that the hell-hounds seemed to quiver at my presence and I soon woke up with that blazing luminous image of Muhammad embedded in my mind's eye. When I awoke I instantly thought of the hadith about seeing the Prophet in dreams and I realized that the dream from God I had prayed for had actually arrived!
Book 029, Number 5639
Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying He who saw me in a dream in fact saw me, for the satan cannot assume my form.Book 029, Number 5637
Abu Qatada reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying He who saw me in dream in fact saw the truth (what is true).angel I could not believe it for I am not devout nor pure but I prayed to God and a couple months later I received the sign I was looking for.
Now after 2 weeks of deliberation and soul-searching I have finally come to terms with what this dream means and I will interpret it for anyone who's interested for when it first happened I was skeptical and reluctant to face reality.
The rats coming outside of my body represent that I was ruining myself from the inside.
I was in a form of a lion because of my forceful and proud personality. I saw myself as a lion in the dream because in reality I see myself as a man's man or someone stronger than most men. I actually like to think of myself as a lion and not a man when I need to feel powerful or confident so there's no coincidence.
I had a false sense of security walking among my enemies in the dream because I was in a strong lion body but still I was quickly destroyed. This shows that the path I was walking was a path where I thought myself powerful enough or self-sufficient to take care of myself.
I thought I could ignore the Sunnah and still walk the right path but I was wrong.
Only after the light of Muhammad touched me was I able to walk the path safely and without fear. This shows that only by embracing the Sunnah am I truly walking the right path and I'm absolutely convinced of the truth of this dream.
I don' want to interfere with your interpretation of your own dream, but because you said you saw mohamed and the light, and he touches you with the light, I think it's better to see deeper and consult allah for the interpretation of your dream if it's a vision
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- Why do you make distinction amongst Messengers by imitating Muhammad (SAW), but not the Prophet Ibrahim (SAW)? If verse 3321 requires Muhammad?s hadith, then why would not the verses 604-6 require Abraham?s hadith?
Ok , brother Mesmorial , about imitating the prophet in this verse, it is litterally, and Ibrahiml also we have to immitate him litterally, I'm not gonna say now about Ibraheem, in what way we have to imitate him, he wasn't of the associators etc... it takes a long text but we all know what Ibraheem was, and it's easy to imitate him, think of all the good caracters in the quran , they apply to him, as well as to mohamed
But if u read the context of 3321 , it talks about war for a while, than it says we have to imitate the prophet uswatun hassan , and than talks about war again, it this verse, Allah is talking to the believers to take the messenger as an exemple, for he was a leader and all, and yet he was fighting, in that was , the ahzab war, he probebly was in the first rank for the fight, and this verse has nothing to do with imitating him in the caracter, for the caracter of mohamed is from the quran, he was applying the quran on himself , therefore , the quran is the caracter of prophet mohamed, and to imitate him, just follow the quran, but 3321 , is stresing the fact that we have to be brave and courageous to fight for rightesouness , and fight for the just cause and be in front and not like a sisi hiding at home or getting afraid of dying and all
This is my understanding of 3321 , study it , and see if u can put it in a better text so we can all benefit from your text, or if i am wrong, than correct my post -
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I wasn't smoking weed nor do I smoke weed. And in fact people who smoke weed on a regular basis tend to not have/remember dreams as often as people who don't smoke. Kinda like jedi jedi
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I'm not assuming anything because the signs are clear. I prayed for a dream from God after I read that hadith because I wanted to know if it was true. To be honest I was skeptical about it myself and until now I have rejected the validity of hadith. But this is just too blatant to ignore when the Prophet(pbuh) comes to me in an aura of celestial light I do not deny that. I know exactly what I saw and I know what it must mean.
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I don't call myself a Sunni or a Shia I am a Muslim plain and simple regardless of whether I follow Sunnah or not. I've never thought there was anything wrong with following the Sunnah and using hadith. It's not like I disregard the Qur'an by following the Sunnah (authentic hadith only) I still am a monotheist and still worship God alone.
I really don't care what any of you think because I've seen the error of my own ways. I've been praying for God, Al-Wakil to guide me on the right path and he has. To turn back from the truth after I've discovered it would be worse than never knowing the truth at all. Here's a great article to read about the fallacies of anti-hadith arguments for anyone interested in always seeking truth who're willing to challenge their own beliefs and maybe even change them if they find themselves in the wrong.
http//www.ilmgate.org/the-fallacies-of-anti-hadith-arguments/
I suggest ALL of you who doubt me please read this article which argues against the points of Qur'an alone Islam or hadith rejection and decide for yourselves if your willing to swallow some of your pride if you truly seek truth. It was difficult for me to face and accept this at first I'll be honest I don't want to follow hadith or have extra rules and stuff but the truth is the truth and I thank God for revealing it to me.
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I wasn't smoking weed nor do I smoke weed. And in fact people who smoke weed on a regular basis tend to not have/remember dreams as often as people who don't smoke. Kinda like jedi jedi
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I'm not assuming anything because the signs are clear. I prayed for a dream from God after I read that hadith because I wanted to know if it was true. To be honest I was skeptical about it myself and until now I have rejected the validity of hadith. But this is just too blatant to ignore when the Prophet(pbuh) comes to me in an aura of celestial light I do not deny that. I know exactly what I saw and I know what it must mean.
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I don't call myself a Sunni or a Shia I am a Muslim plain and simple regardless of whether I follow Sunnah or not. I've never thought there was anything wrong with following the Sunnah and using hadith. It's not like I disregard the Qur'an by following the Sunnah (authentic hadith only) I still am a monotheist and still worship God alone.
I really don't care what any of you think because I've seen the error of my own ways. I've been praying for God, Al-Wakil to guide me on the right path and he has. To turn back from the truth after I've discovered it would be worse than never knowing the truth at all. Here's a great article to read about the fallacies of anti-hadith arguments for anyone interested in always seeking truth who're willing to challenge their own beliefs and maybe even change them if they find themselves in the wrong.
http//www.ilmgate.org/the-fallacies-of-anti-hadith-arguments/
I suggest ALL of you who doubt me please read this article which argues against the points of Qur'an alone Islam or hadith rejection and decide for yourselves if your willing to swallow some of your pride if you truly seek truth. It was difficult for me to face and accept this at first I'll be honest I don't want to follow hadith or have extra rules and stuff but the truth is the truth and I thank God for revealing it to me.
The article will be read, but since there are no Qur'anic verses which will agree with it... The "authority" of ahadith has been taken out of context. Muhammad (SAW) did things in a specific context, but people idolised those things. So you are not sunni or shia. Exactly what in Islam requires clarification? Salaat? That is in the Qur'an if you want the article. It was passed down from Ibrahim (SAW) and hence I pray 5 times but eliminating the parts that blatantly contradict the Qur'an. You should read my commentary to challenge your beliefs which you yourself have been unable to explain. What is the difference between you and a "Qur'an-only" Muslim except that you forbid dog meat absolutely? No-one will have an opinion on you but a dream is simply not a good argument
Peace.
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The spread of these so-called ?modern? ideas would have incalculably disastrous effects on the thought and practice, and collective life of the world of Islam.
I think that it would free the faith from cultural dogma and oppression as well as to help Muslims learn about Islam (and assist them to use it to help the world). The author is very angry and hates to think that the Qur?an was revealed in clear Arabic so that it could be comprehended by anyone other than scholars who live on abrogation.
It is necessary, in order to be a messenger of God, to be free from any possibility of error and deviation, for any possibility of error would affect the reliability of the Holy Book.
Should I stop reading here? The author must be shia and confuses being a Messenger with being an infallible human being. Such is the nature of idol-worship.
(I am sorry but?)The author justifies the above fallacy by using it to explain the traditional shahada. Here is the shahada according to the Qur'an
?And We made the children of Israel to pass through the sea, then Firon and his hosts followed them for oppression and tyranny; until when drowning overtook him, he said I believe that there is no god but He in Whom the children of Israel believe and I am of those who submit.?
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There is no god but Allah and I submit to the Lord of the Universe (Who has revealed the Qur'an through Muhammad). Traditional Muslims do not submit in their Shahada. Even Iblis bears witness...
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The rest of the article will be based on a fallacy. The arguments have not changed since Shafi's Kitab Jima'al-Ilm (which is what Sunni arguments are based on though it is hopelessly easy to refute (e.g. "the wisdom..."). It is proof that Qur'an-alone was a threat to sectarianism back in the medieval times.
I will stop commenting here -X
Peace.
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Good luck to you Jin. As far as I am concerned you are welcome back if you change your mind again. As a Quranist muslim I can't force anyone into Islam. Thats even if I had the means.
Thanks
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That is fine, the dream you had. What I do not see from it is that you should equate the Prophet, peace be on him, with hadiths, even with hadiths that depict him as a monster and are absolutely aboherrent the way they speak about the Prophet. The fact of accepting Muhammad, and of having him as a spiritual companion, and bringer of light does not equate with following anything some other people may have recounted much time after his death we do not know with what purpose. Spiritually we are all companions of the Prophet and of all previous prohets. Muhammad is the seal of all of them, so that on being Muhammad's companions we re also companions of all the Prophets and all the faithful in humanity and the universe. But should that bring you to believe absurdities about the khatmi nabiyin? It is an error and a betrayal to equate Muhammad=hadith. Muhammad = bringer of the light (Qur'an). The hadith are a human product, and we cannot determine how much or if at all they are really from Muhammad, that is conjecture, and you know conjecture is discouraged in the Qur'an, but whatever armonizes with the Qur'an and how it depicts the Prophet, whether hadith, visions or whatever, we may learn and be inspred through it. If it is pure, if it is perfectly concordant with the spirit and the letter of the Qur'an, good. However much we love the Prophet we cannot be like beggars delving in garbage cans for little stories to fulfill our need for legends or rituals to fill any emptiness or craving.
Follow your heart, but be careful not to confuse it with a juacket that may turn out to be too flimsy or too oppresive for it.
I wish you all the best, but follow your heart, not the noise from whatever quarter.
Salaam
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I'm not one to knock anyone's direct experience, but really? You're making what you yourself admit is a big decision based on a dream that is open-ended, at best? What does seeing the Prophet have to do with following hadith? Even if it weren't open-ended, even if it were completely explicit and the Prophet came to you and said "follow the hadith!", I'm not sure it would still be wise to let that steer your beliefs one way or another. Seems foolish, but again, I didn't experience what you did so....
More importantly, the link you supplied is pretty weak. Just sayin'.
Either way, good luck in all your endeavors.
edited to add I've had dreams about Jesus. Does this mean I should be Christian? Same exact reasoning really.
And I get that you were praying about this issue, so the dream has more significance to you, but again lots of your own assumptions are being thrown about.
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I had a dream a week or 2 ago... I saw the Prophet(pbuh) in my dream. I couldn't see any detail in his face and he seemed extremely distant though he was standing right next to me but I undeniably saw the Prophet Muhammad in my dream and no one can convince me otherwise....
I thought I could ignore the Sunnah and still walk the right path but I was wrong.
Over 'a week or 2 ago' you were already following hadiths and not 'ignoring the Sunnah', as I can see from your previous posts.
This sounds like one of those Jesus dreams. Makes me wonder who is really creating these dreams.
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Only after the light of Muhammad touched me was I able to walk the path safely and without fear. This shows that only by embracing the Sunnah am I truly walking the right path and I'm absolutely convinced of the truth of this dream.
He was not Prophet Muhammad, You arbitrarily decided that he was.
When a person dies, he cannot connect back to earth in any form. There is a barrier between him and the life on earth. (23100). Prophet Muhammad cannot communicate with you through your dreams. The hadiths you quotes are therefore not true.From a Freudian p.o.v., that dreams are wish-fulfillments in some form or the other, this dream could mean that there are two struggles going on within you, the one borne out by your own perception that you are brave so you have the capability to break out of any dogmatic bondage or traditions etc. On the other hand, part of you is defending your old beliefs built around the personality of Prophet, which the other 'brave' part of your cognition may not accept, hence a split.
The rats may represent the old beliefs that part of you consider rotten, but their leaving your body makes you feel "pain and anguish", because it's painful for part of your cognition to let go of your old beliefs.
Your walking in the plane represents your struggle and quest. The two splits in you are 1. a brave person who cannot be blackmailed by any fear. The hounds represent your fears of quitting your traditional beliefs 2. a fearful person infested with rats who wants to cleanse his body and get rid of the rats, but it is too painful. The rats don't seem to be quitting your body without a great pain.
To avoid this pain, your unconscious created the image of Prophet because it (your unconscious) wishes to save you from the pain and presenting Prophet to you is a convincing case that will ease your pain. Therefore your unconscious created an image of Prophet for you and tried to convince your conscious that he was the real Prophet and has the power to heal you. Your unconscious only wants to save you from the pain (that arises due to the intellectual struggle in your cognition) no matter what it takes, hence this little manipulation through a dummy Prophet is no big deal, because avoiding pain is important.
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That is fine, the dream you had. What I do not see from it is that you should equate the Prophet, peace be on him, with hadiths, even with hadiths that depict him as a monster and are absolutely aboherrent the way they speak about the Prophet. The fact of accepting Muhammad, and of having him as a spiritual companion, and bringer of light does not equate with following anything some other people may have recounted much time after his death we do not know with what purpose. Spiritually we are all companions of the Prophet and of all previous prohets. Muhammad is the seal of all of them, so that on being Muhammad's companions we re also companions of all the Prophets and all the faithful in humanity and the universe. But should that bring you to believe absurdities about the khatmi nabiyin? It is an error and a betrayal to equate Muhammad=hadith. Muhammad = bringer of the light (Qur'an). The hadith are a human product, and we cannot determine how much or if at all they are really from Muhammad, that is conjecture, and you know conjecture is discouraged in the Qur'an, but whatever armonizes with the Qur'an and how it depicts the Prophet, whether hadith, visions or whatever, we may learn and be inspred through it. If it is pure, if it is perfectly concordant with the spirit and the letter of the Qur'an, good. However much we love the Prophet we cannot be like beggars delving in garbage cans for little stories to fulfill our need for legends or rituals to fill any emptiness or craving.
Follow your heart, but be careful not to confuse it with a juacket that may turn out to be too flimsy or too oppresive for it.
I wish you all the best, but follow your heart, not the noise from whatever quarter.
Salaam
Because I prayed for a dream from God after reading that hadith and the dream came clearly and indisputably. The hadith don't fulfill my non-existent need for legends or rituals so please don't assume.
I think a lot of you Qur'an aloners have the wrong idea with hadith and are JUST as divisive as Sunnis if not more. Sunnis insult your faith for not following hadith then you stoop to their level and insult their faith by attacking hadith. I'm not sure if ALL the hadith in Bukhari or Muslim are true and I obviously won't do something I don't think is in the spirit of Islam but I see much truth and wisdom in many hadith and to deny that is just arrogance in my opinion.
I don't care whether anyone else follows the Sunnah I just take from the Sunnah what I can to change my own life and see if following or applying certain hadith will help me practice Islam better. If I don't think it will help me then I don't do it.
Let's say I am wrong. Let's say the hadith are wrong.
Do you think God will punish me for growing a beard for His sake? Do you think God will punish me for taking out my earrings for His sake? Do you think God will punish me for asking forgiveness for my tattoos for His sake? Will God punish me for observing what I think are the ways of the Prophet(pbuh) for his sake when it only improves my faith and doesn't hurt anyone else?
No I believe my reward will be greater for my striving. So what you as Qur'an alone Muslims and what all other Muslims should be doing is stop bickering over who's wrong with near boastful pride and arrogance and and vie with another in good works.
You say the hadith are built on a basis of conjecture. This may be true. But if I'm wrong then I haven't done anything wrong and whether I'm wrong or right my reward will be greater.
But if it is built on conjecture and Qur'an alone is wrong then you will have ignored or at the very least disrespected Islamic traditions. If it is built on conjecture then you too are not sure whether Qur'an alone is the right alternative or know for sure whether hadith are true or not so you too should re-evaluate perhaps.
Can you say without a shadow of a doubt that many hadith have no basis in truth? That Muhammad(pbuh) himself did not utter many of these hadith?
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Because I prayed for a dream from God after reading that hadith and the dream came clearly and indisputably. The hadith don't fulfill my non-existent need for legends or rituals so please don't assume.
I think a lot of you Qur'an aloners have the wrong idea with hadith and are JUST as divisive as Sunnis if not more. Sunnis insult your faith for not following hadith then you stoop to their level and insult their faith by attacking hadith. I'm not sure if ALL the hadith in Bukhari or Muslim are true and I obviously won't do something I don't think is in the spirit of Islam but I see much truth and wisdom in many hadith and to deny that is just arrogance in my opinion.
I don't care whether anyone else follows the Sunnah I just take from the Sunnah what I can to change my own life and see if following or applying certain hadith will help me practice Islam better. If I don't think it will help me then I don't do it.
Let's say I am wrong. Let's say the hadith are wrong.
Do you think God will punish me for growing a beard for His sake? Do you think God will punish me for taking out my earrings for His sake? Do you think God will punish me for asking forgiveness for my tattoos for His sake? Will God punish me for observing what I think are the ways of the Prophet(pbuh) for his sake when it only improves my faith and doesn't hurt anyone else?
No I believe my reward will be greater for my striving. So what you as Qur'an alone Muslims and what all other Muslims should be doing is stop bickering over who's wrong with near boastful pride and arrogance and and vie with another in good works.
You say the hadith are built on a basis of conjecture. This may be true. But if I'm wrong then I haven't done anything wrong and whether I'm wrong or right my reward will be greater.
But if it is built on conjecture and Qur'an alone is wrong then you will have ignored or at the very least disrespected Islamic traditions. If it is built on conjecture then you too are not sure whether Qur'an alone is the right alternative or know for sure whether hadith are true or not so you too should re-evaluate perhaps.
Can you say without a shadow of a doubt that many hadith have no basis in truth? That Muhammad(pbuh) himself did not utter many of these hadith?
Good luck with your sounni faith, may allah guide u to the best
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I had a dream a week or 2 ago... I saw the Prophet(pbuh) in my dream. I couldn't see any detail in his face and he seemed extremely distant though he was standing right next to me but I undeniably saw the Prophet Muhammad in my dream and no one can convince me otherwise.
At first I didn't even want to believe it it has taken me 2 weeks to accept but now that I have had this dream I am absolutely positive the sahih hadith are true and I must follow the Sunnah.
The crazy thing about this dream is I prayed for a dream from God about 1 or 2 months prior to the dream occurring. I have been on the fence the past 5-7 months about whether or not I need to align my beliefs to the hadith or not but now I am sure I must. I prayed for a dream from God and I prayed for God to show me whether I should embrace the hadith and the Sunnah or stick to only the Qur'an. I now have my answer alhamdullilah.
Let me paraphrase the dream. I was walking along a plain in the alternating between my own body and the form of a large powerful lion. One second I would be walking and look down and see my own arm. The next second I would look down and see large powerful lion paws.
Anyway as I'm walking these little rats kept eating their ways from inside my own body to come out of my body. It was extremely painful I would feel an itch then a pair of teeth would rip its way out of the backside of my flesh. This would happen in my human body and my lion body.
Now as I'm walking these demon-like hell hounds were appearing all around me and giving me menacing looks but I wasn't scared in my lion body only in my human body.
Now suddenly as I'm walking these hell-hounds suddenly turn on me and begin attacking me and killing me. As I'm laying on the ground panicking from fear and dying, a figure of a man appears in the shroud of this intense blazing light and my mind yelled out "Ahmad!" (and in my head it clicked or I decided this was Muhammad) and he came to me and resurrected me by touching me with his light and when I got up he was gone. I'm sure that this was the Prophet the wave of peace that washed over me was so real and palpable when he appeared and the blazing and glorious light he was surrounded by was awe inspiring I might as well have seen him while I was awake.
After that the hell-hounds seemed to quiver at my presence and I soon woke up with that blazing luminous image of Muhammad embedded in my mind's eye. When I awoke I instantly thought of the hadith about seeing the Prophet in dreams and I realized that the dream from God I had prayed for had actually arrived!
This is satire, right?
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Peace Jinn
Being secure in one's beliefs through investigation is a process. You, just as anyone have the right and freedom to choose your path. My only advice on your journey is that you don't close the door on rejecting hadith as a source of law just as you didn't close it on accepting them as a source of law.
Just curious about one thing. What is your methodology for determining which hadith is authentic and which isn't? Also, can you give some examples of some authentic hadith and some that are not authentic.
Each colloector of hadith has collected what are considered authentic and not authentic. If any one collector of hadith has collected what is clearly not authentic, should their testimony not be rejected according to the laws governing witnesses according to the Quran?
Anyway, good luck and I hope you continue ti seek truth.
Imraan
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Since you prayed and received this dream (ie. It worked),
Maybe you should request for other things also. Like ask for clarification and maybe you'll get another Dream that will clarify this one.
Dreams are a funny thing really...some could be good, others be bad, some true, some false, etc...
I would pray for clarification.somebody brought up a good point about "WHICH" hadiths to follow? Because some contradict each other AND the quran.
Personally, I will only follow a hadith if it coincides with the Quran, but that of course applys to ANY Book,Story,Concept, or Film that coincides with the Quran (not just hadith)