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    Did I say WALAD ?

    It's clear your mission is not to clarify with pure intent to believers but you are here to mock...

    Yes! Quote yourself! It's clear what you wrote and what you meant. Stop denying and apologize if you have changed your mind about 'walad' in 411 and 412. Maybe learn something.

    Quote from jkhan on March 06, 2024, 093933 PM
    Here walad everywhere on these two verses 411-12 is male child not merely a child.. And God has decided based on male child's presence the proportions.. Even in 412 it doesn't state NO CHILD but it literally states of NO MALE child ...

    @BH
    Below is your comment

    3+ daughters, 1+ sons
    2/3 three females
    1/3 one male

    Where it is written 1+ sons along with 3+ daughters in order to share 2/3 for daughters and 1/3 to son.. Equation is right.. But where is it written 1+ son..Bring the verse?

    It's clearly written in 411 and gives the math/proportions.

    411 instructed you (pl.) Allah in offspring yours
    to the male similar portion (fortune) the females two

    2 daughters, 1+ sons (2.0x to males)

    1/2 two females (1/4 each), 1/2 one male
    1/3 two females (1/6 each), 2/3 two males (1/3 each)
    1/4 two females (1/8 each), 3/4 three males (1/4 each)

    and so forth...

    so if they are (f/pl.) womenfolk above two (3+)
    so for them (f/pl.) third dual (two out of three portions, 2/3) mā/what left

    3+ daughters, 1+ sons

    2/3 three females (2/9 each), 1/3 one male (1.5x to male/s)
    1/2 three females (1/6 each), 1/2 two males (1/4 each)
    2/5 three females (2/15 each), 3/5 three males (1/5 each)

    and so forth...

    2/3 four females (1/6 each), 1/3 one male (2.0x to male/s)
    1/2 four females (1/8 each), 1/2 two males (1/4 each)
    2/5 four females (1/10 each), 3/5 three males (1/5 each)

    and so forth...

    2/3 five females (2/15 each), 1/3 one male (2.5x to male/s)
    1/2 five females (1/10 each), 1/2 two males (1/4 each)
    2/5 five females (2/25 each), 3/5 three males (1/5 each)

    and so forth...

    2/3 six females (1/9 each), 1/3 one male (3.0x to male/s)
    1/2 six females (1/12 each), 1/2 two males (1/4 each)
    2/5 six females (1/15 each), 3/5 three males (1/5 each)

    and so forth...

    and if she is one (female), so for her the half (1/2)

    1 daughter, 1+ sons (share equally)

    1/2 female, 1/2 one male
    1/3 female, 2/3 two males (1/3 each)
    1/4 female, 3/4 three males (1/4 each)

    and so forth...

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      #922

      I translated my article with the machine. But of course machine translation can make many mistakes, but you can generally understand what I am talking about in my article.

      Resolution of Heritage Verses

      Each of the heritage verses, Nisa 11, 12 and 176, actually offers separate formulas for individual situations. In fact, each sentence in these verses mentions a separate situation and formula in its own right...

      When I was researching it online, I saw that there were people who noticed and said that these three verses gave separate formulas in them. But as I said, not only the verse, but also every sentence in the verses also mentions a different situation and sharing in its own right. Each sentence is a separate list of heirs and the proportions they will receive.

      Whoever's mentioned in the sentence, they're the only heirs. So either they're alive, or they're still being inherited, even if they're others.

      Therefore, in fact, there is no ratio to each other, common formula, hunting, as the sects practice. In Nisa 11, for example, "If there are more than two women, they own two-thirds of what the deceased leaves." is a separate formula alone (if only girls are heirs and more than two girls, this rate applies, or else it is not in other stylish and circumstances).

      And so the stones are in place. In any case, it's enough. Not only is there increased inheritance in some cases, but there is also who will be given this increased amount in light of the verses. (E.g. Verse 8 of Nisa...)

      Now let's write verses Nisa 11, 12, and 176 describing this heritage share and then provide an example of analysis through one

      Nisa

      411 God directs you regarding the inheritance of your children "To the male shall be as that given to two females. If they are women, more than two, then they will have two thirds of what is inherited. And if she is only one, then she will have one half. And to his parents, each one of them shall have one sixth of what is inherited, if he has a child. If he has no child and his parents are the heirs, then to his mother is one third; if he has siblings then to his mother is one sixth. All after a will is carried through or a debt. Your parents and your children, you do not know which are closer to you in benefit, a directive from God, for God is Knowledgeable, Wise."

      412 And for you is half of what your wives leave behind if they have no child; but if they have a child then to you is one quarter of what they leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And if a man or a woman who is being inherited has no ascendants, but has a brother or a sister, then to each one of them is one sixth, but if they are more than this then they are to share in one third. All after a will is carried through or a debt, which does not cause harm. A directive from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Compassionate.

      4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.


      As an example, let's open up the information given in verse 11.

      I have said that each of these verses, let alone each sentence in them, offer separate formulas for different situations. Let's present his analysis

      Nisa

      1. "Allah advises you regarding your children For the male, the share of two females."

      That is, if the heirs consist of only children and there are both male and female children, male children will receive 2 units, while female ones will receive 1 unit.

      Briefly, with an example, if there is 300 L. inheritance and a man and a woman have children, the male will receive 200 L. and the woman will receive 100 L.

      "If they are more than two women, they have two-thirds of what the deceased left."

      So if they only have daughters as inheritors and their number is more than two, they have two-thirds of the inheritance. Here I would like to draw your attention again; The desired here is for girls to receive two-thirds only and only in this case. Otherwise, there is no such share in other terms and conditions.
      (By the way, considering the statement in verse 176, if the inheritors are 2 girls, these 2 people share two thirds).

      If we continue with the 300 L. example, they only have girls and if they are more than two, they share 200 liras among them.

      "If the child is just a woman, he owns half the inheritance."

      As stated in the continuation sentence in the verse, if the deceased left only a single daughter she could receive half of the inheritance.

      Again, if we go over 300 Lira, 150 Lira means this one girl child.

      "If the deceased has a child, he will have a sixth share for each of the parents as he left them behind."

      We understand from this statement that this time the heir has left his parents behind as well as his children, and that's why they have a share (one sixth for each ...).

      Of the 300 lira, 50 lira belongs to the mother, 50 lira to the father, and the remaining is the children.

      "If the deceased has no children and his parents have inherited him, then his mother is one third."

      In this sentence in Nisa 11 verse, it is mentioned that "only the mother and father are inheritors". So this time there are no children, only the parents of the deceased are inheritors (even if there are siblings or something left behind, they are not inheritors).

      In this case, the mother received a third. Since the share rate is not given although the father is mentioned in the sentence, the remaining two thirds means your father.

      In this case, the mother receives 100 Liras of 300 Liras, while the father receives 200 Liras.

      "If he has siblings, his mother's share is one-sixth of what is left of his will and debt."

      If the deceased has a mother but does not have a father and also has siblings, the share of the mother decreases to one in six. The rest are shared by the brothers. But let's repeat, if the father had also been the father, only the mother and father would have received the estate, and the siblings would not have their share ... (And as it is understood from the verses, if the deceased has a child, the siblings cannot get a share.)

      Likewise, in verses 12 and 176, special cases and formulas are mentioned, sentence by sentence. For example, if the deceased left a spouse in verse 12, verse 176 tells how the division would be if only siblings / siblings left behind, and as I said, each sentence in these verses contains a list of heirs and a formula.

      If you wish, let us briefly examine the verse 176 of Nisa in this context

      4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
      Here, too, "if only siblings are heirs", it is explained what the proportions are and of course, each sentence offers a separate list and a separate formula

      If the heir is only 1 sister, half of the inheritance,
      If the heir is 1 brother, he takes all of the inheritance,
      If 2 sisters are heirs, they get two-thirds,
      If only the siblings are inheritors and they are men and women, that is, of both sexes, they share the entire estate as one (female) and two (male).

      By the way, we indirectly understand from these verses that if there are only many brothers left, these sisters will receive the entire inheritance, or if there are more than two sisters (referring to verse 11), these sisters will receive two-thirds of the inheritance (equally divided among themselves).

      If you read verses 11 and 176 of Nisa one after the other, you will see that the rates given to boys and girls only when children are inheritors in verse 11 are exactly the same as those given to brothers and sisters when only brothers are inheritors in verse 176.

      (Incidentally, let us state that the siblings mentioned in one sentence of Nisa 12 verse and the deceased's spouse are the heirs. But in this verse 176, "only brothers" are heirs.)

      In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.


      And as it is known, what is essential is the testament according to the verses, and these rates are for the division of the remaining property after the will is fulfilled and the debts, if any, are paid.

      As you can see, there are none of the problems such as insufficient inheritance or courtyard. The verses describe the sharing of heritage in a flawless manner. The important point here is to be able to see that each sentence gives a separate formula according to a separate list of heirs. In other words, each sentence in the verses gives a unique list of heirs and tells what the heirs will receive in this case.

      While solving problems related to inheritance sharing, it is checked who the surviving heirs are, and the inheritance is divided by determining which sentence of the verses related to inheritance.

      As an example, let's solve the question involving 3 famous girl heirs.

      “A man dies and leaves behind a mother, a father, three daughters and a wife. How will the heritage be shared? ”.

      Since both the spouse and the children are inheritors here, the fourth sentence of Nisa 12 verse describes the relevant section (each sentence of this verse describes what should be done if there is a surviving spouse)

      ". And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind"

      According to this sentence, if the man leaves his wife behind and has children, only these people can be inheritors. His wife gets one eighth of the estate, and the children get seven eight . Even if the deceased has a mother, father or siblings, he cannot get a share in this case.


      As I said, each sentence gives a separate heir list and formula, and as you can see, inheritance is always enough.

      Increasing inheritance is in question only in some cases, again, as I mentioned at the beginning of my article, there are verses containing signs that show who this increased heritage can be given ... For example

      48 And if the distribution is attended by the relatives and the orphans and the needy, then you shall give them part of it and say to them a kind saying.

      http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2014/08/miras-ayetlerinin-cozumu.html

      In verse 176, since there are no heirs other than the brothers/sisters of the deceased, the whole inheritance is divided among them and the proportion they receive varies again.

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        In verse 176, since there are no heirs other than the brothers/sisters of the deceased, the whole inheritance is divided among them and the proportion they receive varies again.

        Mother 1/6 inherits with siblings 411

        $100,000
        distribute each case below, show math?

        1 sister and 1+ brothers
        2 sisters and 1+ brothers
        3 sisters and 1+ brothers

        Add wife/husband & mother to above.
        It's very easy and straightforward.

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          Dear Folks,

          I hope it's okay for me to join this discussion with a question related to the topic of inheritance distribution according to Islamic law. My understanding is that the Quran encourages Muslims to prepare a will before passing away. This suggests that in the absence of a will, only then the prescribed shares for inheritance apply, is that right?

          Salaam,

          will overrides similar to a debt

          411 from after instruction (will), instructed in it or debt

          Although one should be mindful and considerate as stated at end of verse and in Hadith i.e., don’t leave children to suffer in poverty giving everything away since that too is sinful.

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            Emre_1974tr
            wrote on last edited by
            #925

            I translated my article with the machine. But of course machine translation can make many mistakes, but you can generally understand what I am talking about in my article.

            Resolution of Heritage Verses

            Each of the heritage verses, Nisa 11, 12 and 176, actually offers separate formulas for individual situations. In fact, each sentence in these verses mentions a separate situation and formula in its own right...

            When I was researching it online, I saw that there were people who noticed and said that these three verses gave separate formulas in them. But as I said, not only the verse, but also every sentence in the verses also mentions a different situation and sharing in its own right. Each sentence is a separate list of heirs and the proportions they will receive.

            Whoever's mentioned in the sentence, they're the only heirs. So either they're alive, or they're still being inherited, even if they're others.

            Therefore, in fact, there is no ratio to each other, common formula, hunting, as the sects practice. In Nisa 11, for example, "If there are more than two women, they own two-thirds of what the deceased leaves." is a separate formula alone (if only girls are heirs and more than two girls, this rate applies, or else it is not in other stylish and circumstances).

            And so the stones are in place. In any case, it's enough. Not only is there increased inheritance in some cases, but there is also who will be given this increased amount in light of the verses. (E.g. Verse 8 of Nisa...)

            Now let's write verses Nisa 11, 12, and 176 describing this heritage share and then provide an example of analysis through one

            Nisa

            411 God directs you regarding the inheritance of your children "To the male shall be as that given to two females. If they are women, more than two, then they will have two thirds of what is inherited. And if she is only one, then she will have one half. And to his parents, each one of them shall have one sixth of what is inherited, if he has a child. If he has no child and his parents are the heirs, then to his mother is one third; if he has siblings then to his mother is one sixth. All after a will is carried through or a debt. Your parents and your children, you do not know which are closer to you in benefit, a directive from God, for God is Knowledgeable, Wise."

            412 And for you is half of what your wives leave behind if they have no child; but if they have a child then to you is one quarter of what they leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And if a man or a woman who is being inherited has no ascendants, but has a brother or a sister, then to each one of them is one sixth, but if they are more than this then they are to share in one third. All after a will is carried through or a debt, which does not cause harm. A directive from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Compassionate.

            4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.


            As an example, let's open up the information given in verse 11.

            I have said that each of these verses, let alone each sentence in them, offer separate formulas for different situations. Let's present his analysis

            Nisa

            1. "Allah advises you regarding your children For the male, the share of two females."

            That is, if the heirs consist of only children and there are both male and female children, male children will receive 2 units, while female ones will receive 1 unit.

            Briefly, with an example, if there is 300 L. inheritance and a man and a woman have children, the male will receive 200 L. and the woman will receive 100 L.

            "If they are more than two women, they have two-thirds of what the deceased left."

            So if they only have daughters as inheritors and their number is more than two, they have two-thirds of the inheritance. Here I would like to draw your attention again; The desired here is for girls to receive two-thirds only and only in this case. Otherwise, there is no such share in other terms and conditions.
            (By the way, considering the statement in verse 176, if the inheritors are 2 girls, these 2 people share two thirds).

            If we continue with the 300 L. example, they only have girls and if they are more than two, they share 200 liras among them.

            "If the child is just a woman, he owns half the inheritance."

            As stated in the continuation sentence in the verse, if the deceased left only a single daughter she could receive half of the inheritance.

            Again, if we go over 300 Lira, 150 Lira means this one girl child.

            "If the deceased has a child, he will have a sixth share for each of the parents as he left them behind."

            We understand from this statement that this time the heir has left his parents behind as well as his children, and that's why they have a share (one sixth for each ...).

            Of the 300 lira, 50 lira belongs to the mother, 50 lira to the father, and the remaining is the children.

            "If the deceased has no children and his parents have inherited him, then his mother is one third."

            In this sentence in Nisa 11 verse, it is mentioned that "only the mother and father are inheritors". So this time there are no children, only the parents of the deceased are inheritors (even if there are siblings or something left behind, they are not inheritors).

            In this case, the mother received a third. Since the share rate is not given although the father is mentioned in the sentence, the remaining two thirds means your father.

            In this case, the mother receives 100 Liras of 300 Liras, while the father receives 200 Liras.

            "If he has siblings, his mother's share is one-sixth of what is left of his will and debt."

            If the deceased has a mother but does not have a father and also has siblings, the share of the mother decreases to one in six. The rest are shared by the brothers. But let's repeat, if the father had also been the father, only the mother and father would have received the estate, and the siblings would not have their share ... (And as it is understood from the verses, if the deceased has a child, the siblings cannot get a share.)

            Likewise, in verses 12 and 176, special cases and formulas are mentioned, sentence by sentence. For example, if the deceased left a spouse in verse 12, verse 176 tells how the division would be if only siblings / siblings left behind, and as I said, each sentence in these verses contains a list of heirs and a formula.

            If you wish, let us briefly examine the verse 176 of Nisa in this context

            4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
            Here, too, "if only siblings are heirs", it is explained what the proportions are and of course, each sentence offers a separate list and a separate formula

            If the heir is only 1 sister, half of the inheritance,
            If the heir is 1 brother, he takes all of the inheritance,
            If 2 sisters are heirs, they get two-thirds,
            If only the siblings are inheritors and they are men and women, that is, of both sexes, they share the entire estate as one (female) and two (male).

            By the way, we indirectly understand from these verses that if there are only many brothers left, these sisters will receive the entire inheritance, or if there are more than two sisters (referring to verse 11), these sisters will receive two-thirds of the inheritance (equally divided among themselves).

            If you read verses 11 and 176 of Nisa one after the other, you will see that the rates given to boys and girls only when children are inheritors in verse 11 are exactly the same as those given to brothers and sisters when only brothers are inheritors in verse 176.

            (Incidentally, let us state that the siblings mentioned in one sentence of Nisa 12 verse and the deceased's spouse are the heirs. But in this verse 176, "only brothers" are heirs.)

            In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.


            And as it is known, what is essential is the testament according to the verses, and these rates are for the division of the remaining property after the will is fulfilled and the debts, if any, are paid.

            As you can see, there are none of the problems such as insufficient inheritance or courtyard. The verses describe the sharing of heritage in a flawless manner. The important point here is to be able to see that each sentence gives a separate formula according to a separate list of heirs. In other words, each sentence in the verses gives a unique list of heirs and tells what the heirs will receive in this case.

            While solving problems related to inheritance sharing, it is checked who the surviving heirs are, and the inheritance is divided by determining which sentence of the verses related to inheritance.

            As an example, let's solve the question involving 3 famous girl heirs.

            “A man dies and leaves behind a mother, a father, three daughters and a wife. How will the heritage be shared? ”.

            Since both the spouse and the children are inheritors here, the fourth sentence of Nisa 12 verse describes the relevant section (each sentence of this verse describes what should be done if there is a surviving spouse)

            ". And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind"

            According to this sentence, if the man leaves his wife behind and has children, only these people can be inheritors. His wife gets one eighth of the estate, and the children get seven eight . Even if the deceased has a mother, father or siblings, he cannot get a share in this case.


            As I said, each sentence gives a separate heir list and formula, and as you can see, inheritance is always enough.

            Increasing inheritance is in question only in some cases, again, as I mentioned at the beginning of my article, there are verses containing signs that show who this increased heritage can be given ... For example

            48 And if the distribution is attended by the relatives and the orphans and the needy, then you shall give them part of it and say to them a kind saying.

            http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2014/08/miras-ayetlerinin-cozumu.html

            If the deceased has only siblings as heirs, verse 176 explains what to do.

            If the deceased has a mother and siblings, verse 11 explains what to do.

            If the deceased has both mother, wife and siblings, verse 12 explains what to do and we have explained and shown this many times. (If the deceased has a spouse, there must be no parents and children in order for siblings to receive a share)

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              If the deceased has only siblings as heirs, verse 176 explains what to do.

              If the deceased has a mother and siblings, verse 11 explains what to do.

              If the deceased has both mother, wife and siblings, verse 12 explains what to do and we have explained and shown this many times. (If the deceased has a spouse, there must be no parents and children in order for siblings to receive a share)

              Do the math show your work that article only liters the forum. Why are you afraid to do the distributions asked? Are you a coward?

              $100,000
              distribute each case below, show math?

              1 sister and 1+ brothers
              2 sisters and 1+ brothers
              3 sisters and 1+ brothers

              Add wife/husband & mother to above.
              It's very easy and straightforward.

              mother,wife,sister,brother

              mother,wife,sister
              mother,wife,brother
              mother,sister,brother
              wife,sister,brother

              mother,wife
              mother,sister
              mother,brother
              wife,sister
              wife,brother

              Lastly in 4176 does will or debt apply since it’s not mentioned?

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                In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.

                The division of inheritance realised by Allah is so simple and perfect.

                I translated my article with the machine. But of course machine translation can make many mistakes, but you can generally understand what I am talking about in my article.

                Resolution of Heritage Verses

                Each of the heritage verses, Nisa 11, 12 and 176, actually offers separate formulas for individual situations. In fact, each sentence in these verses mentions a separate situation and formula in its own right...

                When I was researching it online, I saw that there were people who noticed and said that these three verses gave separate formulas in them. But as I said, not only the verse, but also every sentence in the verses also mentions a different situation and sharing in its own right. Each sentence is a separate list of heirs and the proportions they will receive.

                Whoever's mentioned in the sentence, they're the only heirs. So either they're alive, or they're still being inherited, even if they're others.

                Therefore, in fact, there is no ratio to each other, common formula, hunting, as the sects practice. In Nisa 11, for example, "If there are more than two women, they own two-thirds of what the deceased leaves." is a separate formula alone (if only girls are heirs and more than two girls, this rate applies, or else it is not in other stylish and circumstances).

                And so the stones are in place. In any case, it's enough. Not only is there increased inheritance in some cases, but there is also who will be given this increased amount in light of the verses. (E.g. Verse 8 of Nisa...)

                Now let's write verses Nisa 11, 12, and 176 describing this heritage share and then provide an example of analysis through one

                Nisa

                411 God directs you regarding the inheritance of your children "To the male shall be as that given to two females. If they are women, more than two, then they will have two thirds of what is inherited. And if she is only one, then she will have one half. And to his parents, each one of them shall have one sixth of what is inherited, if he has a child. If he has no child and his parents are the heirs, then to his mother is one third; if he has siblings then to his mother is one sixth. All after a will is carried through or a debt. Your parents and your children, you do not know which are closer to you in benefit, a directive from God, for God is Knowledgeable, Wise."

                412 And for you is half of what your wives leave behind if they have no child; but if they have a child then to you is one quarter of what they leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And if a man or a woman who is being inherited has no ascendants, but has a brother or a sister, then to each one of them is one sixth, but if they are more than this then they are to share in one third. All after a will is carried through or a debt, which does not cause harm. A directive from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Compassionate.

                4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.


                As an example, let's open up the information given in verse 11.

                I have said that each of these verses, let alone each sentence in them, offer separate formulas for different situations. Let's present his analysis

                Nisa

                1. "Allah advises you regarding your children For the male, the share of two females."

                That is, if the heirs consist of only children and there are both male and female children, male children will receive 2 units, while female ones will receive 1 unit.

                Briefly, with an example, if there is 300 L. inheritance and a man and a woman have children, the male will receive 200 L. and the woman will receive 100 L.

                "If they are more than two women, they have two-thirds of what the deceased left."

                So if they only have daughters as inheritors and their number is more than two, they have two-thirds of the inheritance. Here I would like to draw your attention again; The desired here is for girls to receive two-thirds only and only in this case. Otherwise, there is no such share in other terms and conditions.
                (By the way, considering the statement in verse 176, if the inheritors are 2 girls, these 2 people share two thirds).

                If we continue with the 300 L. example, they only have girls and if they are more than two, they share 200 liras among them.

                "If the child is just a woman, he owns half the inheritance."

                As stated in the continuation sentence in the verse, if the deceased left only a single daughter she could receive half of the inheritance.

                Again, if we go over 300 Lira, 150 Lira means this one girl child.

                "If the deceased has a child, he will have a sixth share for each of the parents as he left them behind."

                We understand from this statement that this time the heir has left his parents behind as well as his children, and that's why they have a share (one sixth for each ...).

                Of the 300 lira, 50 lira belongs to the mother, 50 lira to the father, and the remaining is the children.

                "If the deceased has no children and his parents have inherited him, then his mother is one third."

                In this sentence in Nisa 11 verse, it is mentioned that "only the mother and father are inheritors". So this time there are no children, only the parents of the deceased are inheritors (even if there are siblings or something left behind, they are not inheritors).

                In this case, the mother received a third. Since the share rate is not given although the father is mentioned in the sentence, the remaining two thirds means your father.

                In this case, the mother receives 100 Liras of 300 Liras, while the father receives 200 Liras.

                "If he has siblings, his mother's share is one-sixth of what is left of his will and debt."

                If the deceased has a mother but does not have a father and also has siblings, the share of the mother decreases to one in six. The rest are shared by the brothers. But let's repeat, if the father had also been the father, only the mother and father would have received the estate, and the siblings would not have their share ... (And as it is understood from the verses, if the deceased has a child, the siblings cannot get a share.)

                Likewise, in verses 12 and 176, special cases and formulas are mentioned, sentence by sentence. For example, if the deceased left a spouse in verse 12, verse 176 tells how the division would be if only siblings / siblings left behind, and as I said, each sentence in these verses contains a list of heirs and a formula.

                If you wish, let us briefly examine the verse 176 of Nisa in this context

                4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
                Here, too, "if only siblings are heirs", it is explained what the proportions are and of course, each sentence offers a separate list and a separate formula

                If the heir is only 1 sister, half of the inheritance,
                If the heir is 1 brother, he takes all of the inheritance,
                If 2 sisters are heirs, they get two-thirds,
                If only the siblings are inheritors and they are men and women, that is, of both sexes, they share the entire estate as one (female) and two (male).

                By the way, we indirectly understand from these verses that if there are only many brothers left, these sisters will receive the entire inheritance, or if there are more than two sisters (referring to verse 11), these sisters will receive two-thirds of the inheritance (equally divided among themselves).

                If you read verses 11 and 176 of Nisa one after the other, you will see that the rates given to boys and girls only when children are inheritors in verse 11 are exactly the same as those given to brothers and sisters when only brothers are inheritors in verse 176.

                (Incidentally, let us state that the siblings mentioned in one sentence of Nisa 12 verse and the deceased's spouse are the heirs. But in this verse 176, "only brothers" are heirs.)

                In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.


                And as it is known, what is essential is the testament according to the verses, and these rates are for the division of the remaining property after the will is fulfilled and the debts, if any, are paid.

                As you can see, there are none of the problems such as insufficient inheritance or courtyard. The verses describe the sharing of heritage in a flawless manner. The important point here is to be able to see that each sentence gives a separate formula according to a separate list of heirs. In other words, each sentence in the verses gives a unique list of heirs and tells what the heirs will receive in this case.

                While solving problems related to inheritance sharing, it is checked who the surviving heirs are, and the inheritance is divided by determining which sentence of the verses related to inheritance.

                As an example, let's solve the question involving 3 famous girl heirs.

                “A man dies and leaves behind a mother, a father, three daughters and a wife. How will the heritage be shared? ”.

                Since both the spouse and the children are inheritors here, the fourth sentence of Nisa 12 verse describes the relevant section (each sentence of this verse describes what should be done if there is a surviving spouse)

                ". And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind"

                According to this sentence, if the man leaves his wife behind and has children, only these people can be inheritors. His wife gets one eighth of the estate, and the children get seven eight . Even if the deceased has a mother, father or siblings, he cannot get a share in this case.


                As I said, each sentence gives a separate heir list and formula, and as you can see, inheritance is always enough.

                Increasing inheritance is in question only in some cases, again, as I mentioned at the beginning of my article, there are verses containing signs that show who this increased heritage can be given ... For example

                48 And if the distribution is attended by the relatives and the orphans and the needy, then you shall give them part of it and say to them a kind saying.

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                  You’re a coward! This site has the dumbest posters which you’ve won the prize of the main ape!

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                    In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.

                    The division of inheritance realised by Allah is so simple and perfect.

                    I translated my article with the machine. But of course machine translation can make many mistakes, but you can generally understand what I am talking about in my article.

                    Resolution of Heritage Verses

                    Each of the heritage verses, Nisa 11, 12 and 176, actually offers separate formulas for individual situations. In fact, each sentence in these verses mentions a separate situation and formula in its own right...

                    When I was researching it online, I saw that there were people who noticed and said that these three verses gave separate formulas in them. But as I said, not only the verse, but also every sentence in the verses also mentions a different situation and sharing in its own right. Each sentence is a separate list of heirs and the proportions they will receive.

                    Whoever's mentioned in the sentence, they're the only heirs. So either they're alive, or they're still being inherited, even if they're others.

                    Therefore, in fact, there is no ratio to each other, common formula, hunting, as the sects practice. In Nisa 11, for example, "If there are more than two women, they own two-thirds of what the deceased leaves." is a separate formula alone (if only girls are heirs and more than two girls, this rate applies, or else it is not in other stylish and circumstances).

                    And so the stones are in place. In any case, it's enough. Not only is there increased inheritance in some cases, but there is also who will be given this increased amount in light of the verses. (E.g. Verse 8 of Nisa...)

                    Now let's write verses Nisa 11, 12, and 176 describing this heritage share and then provide an example of analysis through one

                    Nisa

                    411 God directs you regarding the inheritance of your children "To the male shall be as that given to two females. If they are women, more than two, then they will have two thirds of what is inherited. And if she is only one, then she will have one half. And to his parents, each one of them shall have one sixth of what is inherited, if he has a child. If he has no child and his parents are the heirs, then to his mother is one third; if he has siblings then to his mother is one sixth. All after a will is carried through or a debt. Your parents and your children, you do not know which are closer to you in benefit, a directive from God, for God is Knowledgeable, Wise."

                    412 And for you is half of what your wives leave behind if they have no child; but if they have a child then to you is one quarter of what they leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And if a man or a woman who is being inherited has no ascendants, but has a brother or a sister, then to each one of them is one sixth, but if they are more than this then they are to share in one third. All after a will is carried through or a debt, which does not cause harm. A directive from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Compassionate.

                    4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.


                    As an example, let's open up the information given in verse 11.

                    I have said that each of these verses, let alone each sentence in them, offer separate formulas for different situations. Let's present his analysis

                    Nisa

                    1. "Allah advises you regarding your children For the male, the share of two females."

                    That is, if the heirs consist of only children and there are both male and female children, male children will receive 2 units, while female ones will receive 1 unit.

                    Briefly, with an example, if there is 300 L. inheritance and a man and a woman have children, the male will receive 200 L. and the woman will receive 100 L.

                    "If they are more than two women, they have two-thirds of what the deceased left."

                    So if they only have daughters as inheritors and their number is more than two, they have two-thirds of the inheritance. Here I would like to draw your attention again; The desired here is for girls to receive two-thirds only and only in this case. Otherwise, there is no such share in other terms and conditions.
                    (By the way, considering the statement in verse 176, if the inheritors are 2 girls, these 2 people share two thirds).

                    If we continue with the 300 L. example, they only have girls and if they are more than two, they share 200 liras among them.

                    "If the child is just a woman, he owns half the inheritance."

                    As stated in the continuation sentence in the verse, if the deceased left only a single daughter she could receive half of the inheritance.

                    Again, if we go over 300 Lira, 150 Lira means this one girl child.

                    "If the deceased has a child, he will have a sixth share for each of the parents as he left them behind."

                    We understand from this statement that this time the heir has left his parents behind as well as his children, and that's why they have a share (one sixth for each ...).

                    Of the 300 lira, 50 lira belongs to the mother, 50 lira to the father, and the remaining is the children.

                    "If the deceased has no children and his parents have inherited him, then his mother is one third."

                    In this sentence in Nisa 11 verse, it is mentioned that "only the mother and father are inheritors". So this time there are no children, only the parents of the deceased are inheritors (even if there are siblings or something left behind, they are not inheritors).

                    In this case, the mother received a third. Since the share rate is not given although the father is mentioned in the sentence, the remaining two thirds means your father.

                    In this case, the mother receives 100 Liras of 300 Liras, while the father receives 200 Liras.

                    "If he has siblings, his mother's share is one-sixth of what is left of his will and debt."

                    If the deceased has a mother but does not have a father and also has siblings, the share of the mother decreases to one in six. The rest are shared by the brothers. But let's repeat, if the father had also been the father, only the mother and father would have received the estate, and the siblings would not have their share ... (And as it is understood from the verses, if the deceased has a child, the siblings cannot get a share.)

                    Likewise, in verses 12 and 176, special cases and formulas are mentioned, sentence by sentence. For example, if the deceased left a spouse in verse 12, verse 176 tells how the division would be if only siblings / siblings left behind, and as I said, each sentence in these verses contains a list of heirs and a formula.

                    If you wish, let us briefly examine the verse 176 of Nisa in this context

                    4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
                    Here, too, "if only siblings are heirs", it is explained what the proportions are and of course, each sentence offers a separate list and a separate formula

                    If the heir is only 1 sister, half of the inheritance,
                    If the heir is 1 brother, he takes all of the inheritance,
                    If 2 sisters are heirs, they get two-thirds,
                    If only the siblings are inheritors and they are men and women, that is, of both sexes, they share the entire estate as one (female) and two (male).

                    By the way, we indirectly understand from these verses that if there are only many brothers left, these sisters will receive the entire inheritance, or if there are more than two sisters (referring to verse 11), these sisters will receive two-thirds of the inheritance (equally divided among themselves).

                    If you read verses 11 and 176 of Nisa one after the other, you will see that the rates given to boys and girls only when children are inheritors in verse 11 are exactly the same as those given to brothers and sisters when only brothers are inheritors in verse 176.

                    (Incidentally, let us state that the siblings mentioned in one sentence of Nisa 12 verse and the deceased's spouse are the heirs. But in this verse 176, "only brothers" are heirs.)

                    In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.


                    And as it is known, what is essential is the testament according to the verses, and these rates are for the division of the remaining property after the will is fulfilled and the debts, if any, are paid.

                    As you can see, there are none of the problems such as insufficient inheritance or courtyard. The verses describe the sharing of heritage in a flawless manner. The important point here is to be able to see that each sentence gives a separate formula according to a separate list of heirs. In other words, each sentence in the verses gives a unique list of heirs and tells what the heirs will receive in this case.

                    While solving problems related to inheritance sharing, it is checked who the surviving heirs are, and the inheritance is divided by determining which sentence of the verses related to inheritance.

                    As an example, let's solve the question involving 3 famous girl heirs.

                    “A man dies and leaves behind a mother, a father, three daughters and a wife. How will the heritage be shared? ”.

                    Since both the spouse and the children are inheritors here, the fourth sentence of Nisa 12 verse describes the relevant section (each sentence of this verse describes what should be done if there is a surviving spouse)

                    ". And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind"

                    According to this sentence, if the man leaves his wife behind and has children, only these people can be inheritors. His wife gets one eighth of the estate, and the children get seven eight . Even if the deceased has a mother, father or siblings, he cannot get a share in this case.


                    As I said, each sentence gives a separate heir list and formula, and as you can see, inheritance is always enough.

                    Increasing inheritance is in question only in some cases, again, as I mentioned at the beginning of my article, there are verses containing signs that show who this increased heritage can be given ... For example

                    48 And if the distribution is attended by the relatives and the orphans and the needy, then you shall give them part of it and say to them a kind saying.

                    http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2014/08/miras-ayetlerinin-cozumu.html

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                      Do the math show your work that article only liters the forum. Why are you afraid to do the distributions asked? Are you a coward?

                      $100,000
                      distribute each case below, show math?

                      1 sister and 1+ brothers
                      2 sisters and 1+ brothers
                      3 sisters and 1+ brothers

                      Add wife/husband & mother to above.
                      It's very easy and straightforward.

                      mother,wife,sister,brother

                      mother,wife,sister
                      mother,wife,brother
                      mother,sister,brother
                      wife,sister,brother

                      mother,wife
                      mother,sister
                      mother,brother
                      wife,sister
                      wife,brother

                      Lastly in 4176 does will or debt apply since it’s not mentioned?

                      It's clearly written in 411 and gives the math/proportions.

                      411 instructed you (pl.) Allah in offspring yours
                      to the male similar portion (fortune) the females two

                      2 daughters, 1+ sons (2.0x to males)

                      1/2 two females (1/4 each), 1/2 one male
                      1/3 two females (1/6 each), 2/3 two males (1/3 each)
                      1/4 two females (1/8 each), 3/4 three males (1/4 each)

                      and so forth...

                      so if they are (f/pl.) womenfolk above two (3+)
                      so for them (f/pl.) third dual (two out of three portions, 2/3) mā/what left

                      3+ daughters, 1+ sons

                      2/3 three females (2/9 each), 1/3 one male (1.5x to male/s)
                      1/2 three females (1/6 each), 1/2 two males (1/4 each)
                      2/5 three females (2/15 each), 3/5 three males (1/5 each)

                      and so forth...

                      2/3 four females (1/6 each), 1/3 one male (2.0x to male/s)
                      1/2 four females (1/8 each), 1/2 two males (1/4 each)
                      2/5 four females (1/10 each), 3/5 three males (1/5 each)

                      and so forth...

                      2/3 five females (2/15 each), 1/3 one male (2.5x to male/s)
                      1/2 five females (1/10 each), 1/2 two males (1/4 each)
                      2/5 five females (2/25 each), 3/5 three males (1/5 each)

                      and so forth...

                      2/3 six females (1/9 each), 1/3 one male (3.0x to male/s)
                      1/2 six females (1/12 each), 1/2 two males (1/4 each)
                      2/5 six females (1/15 each), 3/5 three males (1/5 each)

                      and so forth...

                      and if she is one (female), so for her the half (1/2)

                      1 daughter, 1+ sons (share equally)

                      1/2 female, 1/2 one male
                      1/3 female, 2/3 two males (1/3 each)
                      1/4 female, 3/4 three males (1/4 each)

                      and so forth...

                      This site is full of cowards. I answer all questions.
                      Everyone afraid of simple questions runs away!

                      Other distributions before leaving this dumb site.

                      1/6 mother, 1/4 (mimmā/from what left) wife, 7/12 remainder to siblings (4176 mixed)
                      1/6 mother, 5/12 (1/2 * 5/6 mā/what left) husband, 5/12 remainder to siblings

                      1 sister, 1+ brothers (share equally)

                      1/2 female, 1/2 one male
                      1/3 female, 2/3 two males (1/3 each)
                      1/4 female, 3/4 three males (1/4 each)

                      2 sisters, 1+ brothers (share equally)

                      2/3 two females (1/3 each), 1/3 one male
                      1/2 two females (1/4 each), 1/2 two males (1/4 each)
                      2/5 two females (1/5 each), 3/5 three males (1/5 each)

                      3+ sisters, 1+ brothers (2.0x to male/s)

                      3/5 three females (1/5 each), 2/5 one male
                      3/7 three females (1/7 each), 4/7 two males (2/7 each)
                      1/3 three females (1/9 each), 2/3 three males (2/9 each)

                      2/3 four females (1/6 each), 1/3 one male
                      1/2 four females (1/8 each), 1/2 two males (1/4 each)
                      2/5 four females (1/10 each), 3/5 three males (1/5 each)

                      and so forth...

                      Salaam!

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                        In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only siblings .of the deceased

                        The division of inheritance realised by Allah is so simple and perfect.

                        I translated my article with the machine. But of course machine translation can make many mistakes, but you can generally understand what I am talking about in my article.

                        Resolution of Heritage Verses

                        Each of the heritage verses, Nisa 11, 12 and 176, actually offers separate formulas for individual situations. In fact, each sentence in these verses mentions a separate situation and formula in its own right...

                        When I was researching it online, I saw that there were people who noticed and said that these three verses gave separate formulas in them. But as I said, not only the verse, but also every sentence in the verses also mentions a different situation and sharing in its own right. Each sentence is a separate list of heirs and the proportions they will receive.

                        Whoever's mentioned in the sentence, they're the only heirs. So either they're alive, or they're still being inherited, even if they're others.

                        Therefore, in fact, there is no ratio to each other, common formula, hunting, as the sects practice. In Nisa 11, for example, "If there are more than two women, they own two-thirds of what the deceased leaves." is a separate formula alone (if only girls are heirs and more than two girls, this rate applies, or else it is not in other stylish and circumstances).

                        And so the stones are in place. In any case, it's enough. Not only is there increased inheritance in some cases, but there is also who will be given this increased amount in light of the verses. (E.g. Verse 8 of Nisa...)

                        Now let's write verses Nisa 11, 12, and 176 describing this heritage share and then provide an example of analysis through one

                        Nisa

                        411 God directs you regarding the inheritance of your children "To the male shall be as that given to two females. If they are women, more than two, then they will have two thirds of what is inherited. And if she is only one, then she will have one half. And to his parents, each one of them shall have one sixth of what is inherited, if he has a child. If he has no child and his parents are the heirs, then to his mother is one third; if he has siblings then to his mother is one sixth. All after a will is carried through or a debt. Your parents and your children, you do not know which are closer to you in benefit, a directive from God, for God is Knowledgeable, Wise."

                        412 And for you is half of what your wives leave behind if they have no child; but if they have a child then to you is one quarter of what they leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And if a man or a woman who is being inherited has no ascendants, but has a brother or a sister, then to each one of them is one sixth, but if they are more than this then they are to share in one third. All after a will is carried through or a debt, which does not cause harm. A directive from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Compassionate.

                        4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.


                        As an example, let's open up the information given in verse 11.

                        I have said that each of these verses, let alone each sentence in them, offer separate formulas for different situations. Let's present his analysis

                        Nisa

                        1. "Allah advises you regarding your children For the male, the share of two females."

                        That is, if the heirs consist of only children and there are both male and female children, male children will receive 2 units, while female ones will receive 1 unit.

                        Briefly, with an example, if there is 300 L. inheritance and a man and a woman have children, the male will receive 200 L. and the woman will receive 100 L.

                        "If they are more than two women, they have two-thirds of what the deceased left."

                        So if they only have daughters as inheritors and their number is more than two, they have two-thirds of the inheritance. Here I would like to draw your attention again; The desired here is for girls to receive two-thirds only and only in this case. Otherwise, there is no such share in other terms and conditions.
                        (By the way, considering the statement in verse 176, if the inheritors are 2 girls, these 2 people share two thirds).

                        If we continue with the 300 L. example, they only have girls and if they are more than two, they share 200 liras among them.

                        "If the child is just a woman, he owns half the inheritance."

                        As stated in the continuation sentence in the verse, if the deceased left only a single daughter she could receive half of the inheritance.

                        Again, if we go over 300 Lira, 150 Lira means this one girl child.

                        "If the deceased has a child, he will have a sixth share for each of the parents as he left them behind."

                        We understand from this statement that this time the heir has left his parents behind as well as his children, and that's why they have a share (one sixth for each ...).

                        Of the 300 lira, 50 lira belongs to the mother, 50 lira to the father, and the remaining is the children.

                        "If the deceased has no children and his parents have inherited him, then his mother is one third."

                        In this sentence in Nisa 11 verse, it is mentioned that "only the mother and father are inheritors". So this time there are no children, only the parents of the deceased are inheritors (even if there are siblings or something left behind, they are not inheritors).

                        In this case, the mother received a third. Since the share rate is not given although the father is mentioned in the sentence, the remaining two thirds means your father.

                        In this case, the mother receives 100 Liras of 300 Liras, while the father receives 200 Liras.

                        "If he has siblings, his mother's share is one-sixth of what is left of his will and debt."

                        If the deceased has a mother but does not have a father and also has siblings, the share of the mother decreases to one in six. The rest are shared by the brothers. But let's repeat, if the father had also been the father, only the mother and father would have received the estate, and the siblings would not have their share ... (And as it is understood from the verses, if the deceased has a child, the siblings cannot get a share.)

                        Likewise, in verses 12 and 176, special cases and formulas are mentioned, sentence by sentence. For example, if the deceased left a spouse in verse 12, verse 176 tells how the division would be if only siblings / siblings left behind, and as I said, each sentence in these verses contains a list of heirs and a formula.

                        If you wish, let us briefly examine the verse 176 of Nisa in this context

                        4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
                        Here, too, "if only siblings are heirs", it is explained what the proportions are and of course, each sentence offers a separate list and a separate formula

                        If the heir is only 1 sister, half of the inheritance,
                        If the heir is 1 brother, he takes all of the inheritance,
                        If 2 sisters are heirs, they get two-thirds,
                        If only the siblings are inheritors and they are men and women, that is, of both sexes, they share the entire estate as one (female) and two (male).

                        By the way, we indirectly understand from these verses that if there are only many brothers left, these sisters will receive the entire inheritance, or if there are more than two sisters (referring to verse 11), these sisters will receive two-thirds of the inheritance (equally divided among themselves).

                        If you read verses 11 and 176 of Nisa one after the other, you will see that the rates given to boys and girls only when children are inheritors in verse 11 are exactly the same as those given to brothers and sisters when only brothers are inheritors in verse 176.

                        (Incidentally, let us state that the siblings mentioned in one sentence of Nisa 12 verse and the deceased's spouse are the heirs. But in this verse 176, "only brothers" are heirs.)

                        In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.


                        And as it is known, what is essential is the testament according to the verses, and these rates are for the division of the remaining property after the will is fulfilled and the debts, if any, are paid.

                        As you can see, there are none of the problems such as insufficient inheritance or courtyard. The verses describe the sharing of heritage in a flawless manner. The important point here is to be able to see that each sentence gives a separate formula according to a separate list of heirs. In other words, each sentence in the verses gives a unique list of heirs and tells what the heirs will receive in this case.

                        While solving problems related to inheritance sharing, it is checked who the surviving heirs are, and the inheritance is divided by determining which sentence of the verses related to inheritance.

                        As an example, let's solve the question involving 3 famous girl heirs.

                        “A man dies and leaves behind a mother, a father, three daughters and a wife. How will the heritage be shared? ”.

                        Since both the spouse and the children are inheritors here, the fourth sentence of Nisa 12 verse describes the relevant section (each sentence of this verse describes what should be done if there is a surviving spouse)

                        ". And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind"

                        According to this sentence, if the man leaves his wife behind and has children, only these people can be inheritors. His wife gets one eighth of the estate, and the children get seven eight . Even if the deceased has a mother, father or siblings, he cannot get a share in this case.


                        As I said, each sentence gives a separate heir list and formula, and as you can see, inheritance is always enough.

                        Increasing inheritance is in question only in some cases, again, as I mentioned at the beginning of my article, there are verses containing signs that show who this increased heritage can be given ... For example

                        48 And if the distribution is attended by the relatives and the orphans and the needy, then you shall give them part of it and say to them a kind saying.

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                          Hello, I'm looking for interpretations of the text relating to inheritance that are from the Quran alone, no reference to tradition or to the Hadith.

                          In what your wives leave, your share is a half, if they leave no child; but if they leave a child, ye get a fourth; after payment of legacies and debts. In what ye leave, their share is a fourth, if ye leave no child; but if ye leave a child, they get an eighth; after payment of legacies and debts. If the man or woman whose inheritance is in question, has left neither ascendants nor descendants, but has left a brother or a sister, each one of the two gets a sixth; but if more than two, they share in a third; after payment of legacies and debts; so that no loss is caused (to any one). Thus is it ordained by Allah; and Allah is All-knowing, Most Forbearing.
                          Surah 413

                          In a case where a man dies and his widow and children survive him, the children get 2/3 and the wife gets 1/8 after payment of debts and legacies that cause no loss.

                          If a legacy stipulates that the wife is to get a fixed amount which is greater that her 1/8 share, is there any reason why the difference should not be paid from the discretionary share (1 - (2/3 + 1/) of the estate?

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                            Hello, I'm looking for interpretations of the text relating to inheritance that are from the Quran alone, no reference to tradition or to the Hadith.

                            In what your wives leave, your share is a half, if they leave no child; but if they leave a child, ye get a fourth; after payment of legacies and debts. In what ye leave, their share is a fourth, if ye leave no child; but if ye leave a child, they get an eighth; after payment of legacies and debts. If the man or woman whose inheritance is in question, has left neither ascendants nor descendants, but has left a brother or a sister, each one of the two gets a sixth; but if more than two, they share in a third; after payment of legacies and debts; so that no loss is caused (to any one). Thus is it ordained by Allah; and Allah is All-knowing, Most Forbearing.
                            Surah 413

                            In a case where a man dies and his widow and children survive him, the children get 2/3 and the wife gets 1/8 after payment of debts and legacies that cause no loss.

                            If a legacy stipulates that the wife is to get a fixed amount which is greater that her 1/8 share, is there any reason why the difference should not be paid from the discretionary share (1 - (2/3 + 1/) of the estate?

                            Hello, I explained in my article, each of the 3 verses regarding the division of inheritance requests different lists of creditors and different rates for 3 different situations.

                            In the case you mentioned, where the wife of the deceased is left behind, verse 12 applies. So the list and proportions in verse 11 or verse 176 are not in question.

                            In the example you gave, the wife of the deceased receives one eighth, and the children receive the remaining seven eighths. Please read my article above.

                            Apart from that, if you are talking about a will, you can leave any amount of money or property to whomever you want in a will.

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                              In the example you gave, the wife of the deceased receives one eighth, and the children receive the remaining seven eighths.

                              Distribute 7/8 for simple cases

                              1 daughter 1 son
                              2 daughters 1 son
                              3 daughters 1 son

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                                Hello, I'm looking for interpretations of the text relating to inheritance that are from the Quran alone, no reference to tradition or to the Hadith.
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                                In a case where a man dies and his widow and children survive him, the children get 2/3 and the wife gets 1/8 after payment of debts and legacies that cause no loss.

                                Salaam,

                                2/3 is from Hadith.

                                https//sunnah.com/nasai3626

                                It was narrated from 'Amir bin Sa'd that his father said

                                "I became ill with a sickness from which I later recovered. The Messenger of Allah came to visit me, and I said 'O Messenger of Allah, I have a great deal of wealth and I have no heir except my daughter. Shall I give two-thirds of my wealth in charity?' He said 'No.' I said 'Half?' He said 'No.' I said 'One-third?' He said '(Give) one-third, and one-third is a lot. It is better to leave your heirs independent of means, than to leave them poor and holding out their hands to people.'"

                                Hence, 2/3 remainder went to the daughter. Any sole inheritor gets the whole amount. Clearly, "from after a will or debt."

                                Likewise, don't mind those who deny the parents any shares if a spouse is present and don't know who gets the remainder for hundreds of cases.

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                                  In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only siblings of the deceased

                                  The division of inheritance realised by Allah is so simple and perfect.

                                  I translated my article with the machine. But of course machine translation can make many mistakes, but you can generally understand what I am talking about in my article.

                                  Resolution of Heritage Verses

                                  Each of the heritage verses, Nisa 11, 12 and 176, actually offers separate formulas for individual situations. In fact, each sentence in these verses mentions a separate situation and formula in its own right...

                                  When I was researching it online, I saw that there were people who noticed and said that these three verses gave separate formulas in them. But as I said, not only the verse, but also every sentence in the verses also mentions a different situation and sharing in its own right. Each sentence is a separate list of heirs and the proportions they will receive.

                                  Whoever's mentioned in the sentence, they're the only heirs. So either they're alive, or they're still being inherited, even if they're others.

                                  Therefore, in fact, there is no ratio to each other, common formula, hunting, as the sects practice. In Nisa 11, for example, "If there are more than two women, they own two-thirds of what the deceased leaves." is a separate formula alone (if only girls are heirs and more than two girls, this rate applies, or else it is not in other stylish and circumstances).

                                  And so the stones are in place. In any case, it's enough. Not only is there increased inheritance in some cases, but there is also who will be given this increased amount in light of the verses. (E.g. Verse 8 of Nisa...)

                                  Now let's write verses Nisa 11, 12, and 176 describing this heritage share and then provide an example of analysis through one

                                  Nisa

                                  411 God directs you regarding the inheritance of your children "To the male shall be as that given to two females. If they are women, more than two, then they will have two thirds of what is inherited. And if she is only one, then she will have one half. And to his parents, each one of them shall have one sixth of what is inherited, if he has a child. If he has no child and his parents are the heirs, then to his mother is one third; if he has siblings then to his mother is one sixth. All after a will is carried through or a debt. Your parents and your children, you do not know which are closer to you in benefit, a directive from God, for God is Knowledgeable, Wise."

                                  412 And for you is half of what your wives leave behind if they have no child; but if they have a child then to you is one quarter of what they leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind. All after a will is carried through or a debt. And if a man or a woman who is being inherited has no ascendants, but has a brother or a sister, then to each one of them is one sixth, but if they are more than this then they are to share in one third. All after a will is carried through or a debt, which does not cause harm. A directive from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Compassionate.

                                  4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.


                                  As an example, let's open up the information given in verse 11.

                                  I have said that each of these verses, let alone each sentence in them, offer separate formulas for different situations. Let's present his analysis

                                  Nisa

                                  1. "Allah advises you regarding your children For the male, the share of two females."

                                  That is, if the heirs consist of only children and there are both male and female children, male children will receive 2 units, while female ones will receive 1 unit.

                                  Briefly, with an example, if there is 300 L. inheritance and a man and a woman have children, the male will receive 200 L. and the woman will receive 100 L.

                                  "If they are more than two women, they have two-thirds of what the deceased left."

                                  So if they only have daughters as inheritors and their number is more than two, they have two-thirds of the inheritance. Here I would like to draw your attention again; The desired here is for girls to receive two-thirds only and only in this case. Otherwise, there is no such share in other terms and conditions.
                                  (By the way, considering the statement in verse 176, if the inheritors are 2 girls, these 2 people share two thirds).

                                  If we continue with the 300 L. example, they only have girls and if they are more than two, they share 200 liras among them.

                                  "If the child is just a woman, he owns half the inheritance."

                                  As stated in the continuation sentence in the verse, if the deceased left only a single daughter she could receive half of the inheritance.

                                  Again, if we go over 300 Lira, 150 Lira means this one girl child.

                                  "If the deceased has a child, he will have a sixth share for each of the parents as he left them behind."

                                  We understand from this statement that this time the heir has left his parents behind as well as his children, and that's why they have a share (one sixth for each ...).

                                  Of the 300 lira, 50 lira belongs to the mother, 50 lira to the father, and the remaining is the children.

                                  "If the deceased has no children and his parents have inherited him, then his mother is one third."

                                  In this sentence in Nisa 11 verse, it is mentioned that "only the mother and father are inheritors". So this time there are no children, only the parents of the deceased are inheritors (even if there are siblings or something left behind, they are not inheritors).

                                  In this case, the mother received a third. Since the share rate is not given although the father is mentioned in the sentence, the remaining two thirds means your father.

                                  In this case, the mother receives 100 Liras of 300 Liras, while the father receives 200 Liras.

                                  "If he has siblings, his mother's share is one-sixth of what is left of his will and debt."

                                  If the deceased has a mother but does not have a father and also has siblings, the share of the mother decreases to one in six. The rest are shared by the brothers. But let's repeat, if the father had also been the father, only the mother and father would have received the estate, and the siblings would not have their share ... (And as it is understood from the verses, if the deceased has a child, the siblings cannot get a share.)

                                  Likewise, in verses 12 and 176, special cases and formulas are mentioned, sentence by sentence. For example, if the deceased left a spouse in verse 12, verse 176 tells how the division would be if only siblings / siblings left behind, and as I said, each sentence in these verses contains a list of heirs and a formula.

                                  If you wish, let us briefly examine the verse 176 of Nisa in this context

                                  4176 They seek a ruling from you, say "God gives you the ruling for those who have no ascendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind; and he will inherit from her if she has no child. However, if he has two sisters, then they will receive two thirds of what he left behind; and if he has siblings, men and women, then the male shall receive twice what the female receives." God makes clear to you that you do not stray; God is aware of all things.
                                  Here, too, "if only siblings are heirs", it is explained what the proportions are and of course, each sentence offers a separate list and a separate formula

                                  If the heir is only 1 sister, half of the inheritance,
                                  If the heir is 1 brother, he takes all of the inheritance,
                                  If 2 sisters are heirs, they get two-thirds,
                                  If only the siblings are inheritors and they are men and women, that is, of both sexes, they share the entire estate as one (female) and two (male).

                                  By the way, we indirectly understand from these verses that if there are only many brothers left, these sisters will receive the entire inheritance, or if there are more than two sisters (referring to verse 11), these sisters will receive two-thirds of the inheritance (equally divided among themselves).

                                  If you read verses 11 and 176 of Nisa one after the other, you will see that the rates given to boys and girls only when children are inheritors in verse 11 are exactly the same as those given to brothers and sisters when only brothers are inheritors in verse 176.

                                  (Incidentally, let us state that the siblings mentioned in one sentence of Nisa 12 verse and the deceased's spouse are the heirs. But in this verse 176, "only brothers" are heirs.)

                                  In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only brothers/sisters.


                                  And as it is known, what is essential is the testament according to the verses, and these rates are for the division of the remaining property after the will is fulfilled and the debts, if any, are paid.

                                  As you can see, there are none of the problems such as insufficient inheritance or courtyard. The verses describe the sharing of heritage in a flawless manner. The important point here is to be able to see that each sentence gives a separate formula according to a separate list of heirs. In other words, each sentence in the verses gives a unique list of heirs and tells what the heirs will receive in this case.

                                  While solving problems related to inheritance sharing, it is checked who the surviving heirs are, and the inheritance is divided by determining which sentence of the verses related to inheritance.

                                  As an example, let's solve the question involving 3 famous girl heirs.

                                  “A man dies and leaves behind a mother, a father, three daughters and a wife. How will the heritage be shared? ”.

                                  Since both the spouse and the children are inheritors here, the fourth sentence of Nisa 12 verse describes the relevant section (each sentence of this verse describes what should be done if there is a surviving spouse)

                                  ". And to them is one quarter of what you leave behind if you have no child; but if you have a child then to them is one eighth of what you leave behind"

                                  According to this sentence, if the man leaves his wife behind and has children, only these people can be inheritors. His wife gets one eighth of the estate, and the children get seven eight . Even if the deceased has a mother, father or siblings, he cannot get a share in this case.


                                  As I said, each sentence gives a separate heir list and formula, and as you can see, inheritance is always enough.

                                  Increasing inheritance is in question only in some cases, again, as I mentioned at the beginning of my article, there are verses containing signs that show who this increased heritage can be given ... For example

                                  48 And if the distribution is attended by the relatives and the orphans and the needy, then you shall give them part of it and say to them a kind saying.

                                  http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2014/08/miras-ayetlerinin-cozumu.html

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                                    Hello, I explained in my article, each of the 3 verses regarding the division of inheritance requests different lists of creditors and different rates for 3 different situations.

                                    Thanks for that. I'm interpreting the 3 verses as the abrogation of Numbers 278-11. For the Torah the beneficiaries would have priority as sons, then daughters, then brethren, then father's brethren, then kinsmen.

                                    And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a man die, and have no son, then ye shall cause his inheritance to pass unto his daughter.
                                    And if he have no daughter, then ye shall give his inheritance unto his brethren.
                                    And if he have no brethren, then ye shall give his inheritance unto his father's brethren.
                                    And if his father have no brethren, then ye shall give his inheritance unto his kinsman that is next to him of his family, and he shall possess it and it shall be unto the children of Israel a statute of judgment, as the LORD commanded Moses.
                                    Numbers 278-11

                                    For the Quran the beneficiaries would be

                                    verse 11
                                    1 if only one child 1/2 to children, 1/6 to each parent
                                    2 if two or more children 2/3 to children, 1/6 to each parent
                                    3 if no children
                                    3.1 if no siblings mother 1/3
                                    3.2 if any siblings mother 1/6

                                    verse 12
                                    4 if no children 1/2 to husband or 1/4 to wife
                                    4.1 if no parents and no more than one brother or sister 1/6 to brother and 1/6 to sister
                                    4.2 if no parents and two sisters or two brothers
                                    5 if children 1/4 to husband or 1/8 to wife

                                    verse 176
                                    6 if no children or parents
                                    6.1 only one sibling 1/2 to siblings
                                    6.2 two or more siblings 2/3 to siblings

                                    Priority matters because if a wife dies and she had two parents and two children then the shares would be
                                    2/3 to children
                                    1/6 to father
                                    1/6 to mother

                                    1/4 to husband (not fulfilled because children and parents have priority)

                                    Please let me know if you think any of the rules are misinterpreted.

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                                      Salaam,

                                      2/3 is from Hadith.

                                      https//sunnah.com/nasai3626

                                      It was narrated from 'Amir bin Sa'd that his father said

                                      "I became ill with a sickness from which I later recovered. The Messenger of Allah came to visit me, and I said 'O Messenger of Allah, I have a great deal of wealth and I have no heir except my daughter. Shall I give two-thirds of my wealth in charity?' He said 'No.' I said 'Half?' He said 'No.' I said 'One-third?' He said '(Give) one-third, and one-third is a lot. It is better to leave your heirs independent of means, than to leave them poor and holding out their hands to people.'"

                                      Hence, 2/3 remainder went to the daughter. Any sole inheritor gets the whole amount. Clearly, "from after a will or debt."

                                      Likewise, don't mind those who deny the parents any shares if a spouse is present and don't know who gets the remainder for hundreds of cases.

                                      Thank you.

                                      I would expect that parents would get a share before a spouse because the abrogated law from Numbers 27 shows that there is an order of priority.

                                      Using your example from the Hadith, but with a wife, the remaining 3/8 would be discretionary, right?
                                      1/2 daughter
                                      1/8 wife
                                      3/8 discretionary

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                                        In summary In verse 11, there is no spouse, while in verse 12, there is a spouse, verse 176 tells how to make a taksim when there are only siblings .of the deceased

                                        The division of inheritance realised by Allah is so simple and perfect.

                                        I think you are interpreting the verses as exclusive. If the verses are interpreted as exclusive, then in the case where there were only sisters who were beneficiaries the debts and bequests would not be paid.

                                        I think that it is appropriate to interpret them as being consistent with each other. If the verses are interpreted as consistent, then debts and non-prejudical bequests are always paid first, before any shares are paid.

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                                          Numbers 278-11

                                          Interesting on Torah need to check Hebrew.

                                          quote author=Theo link=msg=443291 date=1710294697

                                          For the Quran the beneficiaries would be

                                          verse 11
                                          1 if only one child 1/2 to children, 1/6 to each parent

                                          No 1/2 to daughter, 1/2 remainder to son
                                          Yes 1/6 to parent, 5/6 remainder to children

                                          2 if two or more children 2/3 to children, 1/6 to each parent

                                          No 2/3 to three+ daughters, 1/3 remainder to son
                                          Yes 1/6 each to parents, 2/3 remainder to children

                                          3 if no children
                                          3.1 if no siblings mother 1/3
                                          3.2 if any siblings mother 1/6

                                          Yes 1/3 to mother, 2/3 remainder to father
                                          Yes 1/6 to mother, remainder to sibling/s
                                          Siblings only inherit kalala case if no father/grandfather

                                          verse 12
                                          4 if no children 1/2 to husband or 1/4 to wife

                                          Yes although slightly different wife 1/4 is always fixed or taken mimma/from what left and husband 1/2 ma/what left after paying off mother 1/3 first remainder to father for example
                                          1/4 wife 1/3 mother 5/12 remainder to father
                                          1/3 mother 1/3 husband (1/2 * 2/3) 1/3 remainder to father

                                          4.1 if no parents and no more than one brother or sister 1/6 to brother and 1/6 to sister

                                          No that’s Kalala case (fatherless) with child
                                          1/6 mother 1/4 husband 1/6 sibling 5/12 remainder to children
                                          1/6 mother 1/8 wife 1/6 sibling 13/24 remainder to children

                                          4.2 if no parents and two sisters or two brothers

                                          No father only, again Kalala case with children
                                          1/6 mother 1/3 siblings 1/2 remainder to children

                                          5 if children 1/4 to husband or 1/8 to wife
                                          1/4 husband 3/4 remainder to children
                                          1/8 wife 7/8 remainder to children

                                          verse 176
                                          6 if no children or parents

                                          No father! Kalala case no child

                                          6.1 only one sibling 1/2 to siblings

                                          No 1/2 to sister, 1/2 remainder to brother

                                          6.2 two or more siblings 2/3 to siblings

                                          No 2/3 to two sisters, 1/3 to brother

                                          Priority matters because if a wife dies and she had two parents and two children then the shares would be
                                          2/3 to children
                                          1/6 to father
                                          1/6 to mother

                                          Math is correct!

                                          1/4 to husband (not fulfilled because children and parents have priority)

                                          No 1/4 husband 1/3 parents 5/12 remainder to children (read my previous posts how to distribute if males and females)

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