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Inheritance according to Qur?an

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    jkhan
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    Since both the wife and the child are the inheritance here, the 12th verse of Nisaa explains the relevant division (already every sentence of this verse explains what to do if there is a spouse left behind)

    "If you have children, then one-eighth of what is left after the payment of your will and your debt belongs to your wives."

    According to this sentence, if a man leaves behind his wife and has children, only these people can be heirs. The wife gets one eighth of the inheritance and the remaining seven-eighths goes to the child. Even if the deceased has parents or siblings, they cannot get a share in this case.

    Linda gets $1250, Adam gets $8750.

    Thank you...
    I do agree..
    But I did ask the basic question... You didn't respond to additional questions.. OK fine.
    Let me continue if you wish keep replying fir better clarity to others..

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      jkhan
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      There is a family..
      David and Linda husband and wife..
      And David and Linda has two daughters only Sofia and Emily..
      And David has his parents Mary and Micheal...
      Well David deceased...
      Now David had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
      Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between Linda, Sofia, Emily, Mary and Micheal based on 4"11-12?

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        jkhan
        wrote on last edited by
        #883

        There is a family..
        David and Linda husband and wife..
        And David and Linda has three daughters only Sofia , Emily and Alice..
        And David has his parents Mary and Micheal...
        Well David deceased...
        Now David had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
        Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between Linda, Sofia, Emily, Alice, Mary and Micheal based on 4"11-12?

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          jkhan
          wrote on last edited by
          #884

          There is a family..
          David and Linda husband and wife..
          And David and Linda has a daughter Sofia ..
          And David has his parents Mary and Micheal...
          Well David deceased...
          Now David had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
          Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between Linda, Sofia, Mary and Micheal based on 4"11-12?

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            jkhan
            wrote on last edited by
            #885

            There is a family..
            David and Linda husband and wife..
            And David and Linda has only daughter Sofia ..
            And Linda has her parents Sabrina and Steve...
            Well Linda deceased...
            Now Linda had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
            Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between David, Sofia, Sabrina and Steve based on 4"11-12?

            Why I ask in this way is cuz 411 and 412 should be combined to answer..

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              Emre_1974tr
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              #886

              There is a family..
              David and Linda husband and wife..
              And David and Linda has two daughters only Sofia and Emily..
              And David has his parents Mary and Micheal...
              Well David deceased...
              Now David had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
              Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between Linda, Sofia, Emily, Mary and Micheal based on 4"11-12?

              Since the wife remains, verse 12 should be looked at again.

              Again, only the wife and child can receive a share of the money.

              Linda gets $1250, Sofia gets $4375, Emily gets $4375 .

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                Emre_1974tr
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                #887

                There is a family..
                David and Linda husband and wife..
                And David and Linda has three daughters only Sofia , Emily and Alice..
                And David has his parents Mary and Micheal...
                Well David deceased...
                Now David had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
                Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between Linda, Sofia, Emily, Alice, Mary and Micheal based on 4"11-12?

                Linda $1250 , Sofia $2916,6 , Emily $2916,6 , Alice $2916,6 .

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                  Emre_1974tr
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #888

                  There is a family..
                  David and Linda husband and wife..
                  And David and Linda has a daughter Sofia ..
                  And David has his parents Mary and Micheal...
                  Well David deceased...
                  Now David had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
                  Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between Linda, Sofia, Mary and Micheal based on 4"11-12?

                  Linda $1250 , Sofia $8750.

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                    Emre_1974tr
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #889

                    There is a family..
                    David and Linda husband and wife..
                    And David and Linda has only daughter Sofia ..
                    And Linda has her parents Sabrina and Steve...
                    Well Linda deceased...
                    Now Linda had 10000 USD after all debts etc..
                    Let us know how this 10000 USD is devided between David, Sofia, Sabrina and Steve based on 4"11-12?

                    Why I ask in this way is cuz 411 and 412 should be combined to answer..

                    David $2500 , Sofia $7500.

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                      jkhan
                      wrote on last edited by
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                      Linda $1250 , Sofia $8750.

                      Yes... Thanks..
                      Now people might be wondering in case if not got the verses right. they would question it is mentioned "if only One Daughter ' she gets Half but here the amount is not Half what is explained by brother Emere..
                      Well.. Let me clarify..

                      At least minimum ONE MALE Child + 1 daughter as I said conditional... Both will get half.. Suppose David had Sofia and Adam as children both Sofia and Adam get equal after Linda amount is given.. 8750/2=4375 for each Sofia and Adam and Linda 1250..

                      If David had Adam and two daughters Sofia and Emily.. Then 21 equation apples after Linda's amount is given..
                      8750/4= 2187.5 ..so both Sofia and Emily gets 2187.5 each while Adam gets 4375...

                      • but if Davif had Adam and Sofia, Emily and Alice then 2/3 fir daughters after Linda's portion is given..

                      8750/3=2916.66 ..2916.66 for Adam but Sofia, Emily and Alice gets 5833.33..So Sofia, Emily and Alice gets 1944.44 each..
                      Any objections pls let me know..

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                        jkhan
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #891

                        If David had two sons and two daughters then equation is undeniably 21 in favor of male children..
                        Even David had two sons and three daughters equation remains same 21 for male child..

                        Even if David had THREE sons and only ONE daughter equation is 21 in favor of sons..

                        It's all about ONE MALE CHILD..

                        I know those verses are criticized by Arab christians etc vehemently as if these divisions are wrong and unfortunaly conventional Muslims also agree and... Shame..

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                          jkhan
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                          But note well if parents are alive and if the deceased has a child gender male parents gets 1/6 each.. Daughters there anyway gets..

                          So.. I would like ask Emere why parents not got any share? When no parents have given the proportions but if parents there proportions chsnges.. Agree? Or Any objections?

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                            jkhan
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                            If parents are alive of the deceased person never neglect them... 411 clarifies..

                            So let's see below with parents..

                            If David has one son and one daughter and wife and his both parents then

                            10000/8 =1250 for wife..
                            10000/6 =1666.66 for each parent
                            5416.67/2=2708.33 for each son and daughter
                            Any objection?

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                              jkhan
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                              411
                              " ... And for one's parents, to each one of them(dual) is a sixth of his if he left child (Walad) ...."

                              Here walad everywhere on these two verses 411-12 is male child not merely a child.. And God has decided based on male child's presence the proportions.. Even in 412 it doesn't state NO CHILD but it literally states of NO MALE child but definitely they have child or children in the form of daughter.. It doesn't mean no children at all..
                              Any objection?

                              Parents do get even deceased has a Male child.. Parents Ofcourse get if daughters only..

                              Logically ponder how come wife gets and parents don't? Is there a justice? Any objection..

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                                Emre_1974tr
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                                #895

                                If parents are

                                In your will, you can give as much as you wish to whomever you wish.

                                But if you die without writing a will, these formulae are to be applied.

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                                  Emre_1974tr
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                                  411
                                  .

                                  Logically ponder how come wife gets and parents don't? Is there a justice? Any objection..

                                  In verse 11 the deceased has no living mate. Therefore, his parents and siblingand receive a share of the inheritance. But if there is a living spousenand and child too, the parents and siblings do not get a share.

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                                    jkhan
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                                    #897

                                    In verse 11 the deceased has no living mate. Therefore, his parents and siblingand receive a share of the inheritance. But if there is a living spousenand and child too, the parents and siblings do not get a share.

                                    It doesn't state there is no living mate in 411..Does it?
                                    If husband passed away in a family of one daughter and one son and wife alive and his parents alive.. But only children and wife gets not parents that's what you say but it's not what verses say.. I a afraid..

                                    Yes one can write as much as he wants when he makes a will... But who is better knowledgeable than Allah in dividing propertie while making a WILL also just before death or in advance.. Cuz Allah's division of property makes much more sense and very less chance of confrontation and argument..
                                    Though it's division after demise it's model for anyone to follow while writing a will.. That's my take...unless the one who writes a will notices any evilness amongst his children or weakness
                                    411 never states both spouse deceased..

                                    411 never states if both spouse left but it states HE (father) left and for HIS parents 1/6.

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                                      Emre_1974tr
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                                      It doesn't state there is no living mate in 411..Does it?
                                      If husband passed away in a family of one daughter and one son and wife alive and his parents alive.. But only children and wife gets not parents that's what you say but it's not what verses say.. I a afraid..

                                      Yes one can write as much as he wants when he makes a will... But who is better knowledgeable than Allah in dividing propertie while making a WILL also just before death or in advance.. Cuz Allah's division of property makes much more sense and very less chance of confrontation and argument..
                                      Though it's division after demise it's model for anyone to follow while writing a will.. That's my take...unless the one who writes a will notices any evilness amongst his children or weakness
                                      411 never states both spouse deceased..

                                      If the deceased person has living spouse and living children too, parents and siblings do not receive a share.

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                                        jkhan
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                                        If the deceased person has living spouse and living children too, parents and siblings do not receive a share.

                                        Yes.. Siblings don't get.. But parents do.. 1/6..unfortunately I have to disagree with your understanding brother unless and otherwise you explain 411 1/6 statement which clearly says IF HE HAS A MALE CHILD .. And not stated if THEY (BOTH SPOUSE) has a a male child for parents 1/6.. Then we can deduce.. Yes they are orphan so parents get 1/6..nopr.. Verse states IF HE HAS.. same in 412 IF SHE HAS a male child..

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                                          Emre_1974tr
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                                          Yes.. Siblings don't get.. But parents do.. 1/6..unfortunately I have to disagree with your understanding brother unless and otherwise you explain 411 1/6 statement which clearly says IF HE HAS A MALE CHILD ..

                                          No;

                                          In verse 11 there is no wife of the deceased. That is why there is a different division list and different shares.

                                          In verse 12, the deceased has a living spouse. That is why there is a different list and different proportions.

                                          Verses 11, 12 and 176 give different lists and shares for different situations.

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