What is God's role with Born Disabled?
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Why, I feel better already! Droneandonly you're my only hope ;D
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Ooh and drfazl is on the attack again after once again ignoring posts, points and reasoning altogether. I don't feel like indulging your feigned ignorance on what that difference is when it's something that is in every post and is perfectly clear. Your insistence that belief in God means avoiding doctors, medicine and anything whatsoever other than prayer. Anyone who believes in going to a doctor to get a cure is committing an unforgivable sin. Anyone who uses medicine is prideful and evil and knows better than God. There is no evidence for this. This is a huge claim.
Already answered. No, you cannot teach faith. I'm not surprised that you don't get what it looks like where you're a mufti in a q&a session. Drfazl what should I do for my ear ache? 2 recitations every day and call me after a week.
Nobody is associating man mad medical assumptive knowledge to God's fool proof Almighty Power. I keep repeating this constantly. Please have some patience while reading your posts? Really, now the gloves come off. I've READ your non evidenced claims over and over in different threads in different ways, it takes me 45 minutes to respond to most of these posts because I want to be sure I've understood. Can you say the same Mr. Piecemeal Responder Who Asks After Days Of Posts Explaining The Difference What The Difference Is Between Belief In God And His Own Belief? This just shows how self absorbed you are and how much you've read of anything.
Everything is in the hands of God. Whether they're with doctors or not. You forget that God is in full control. Read the quran and take your time. God is not with those who make claims insisting what belief in God comprises of according to their own opinions.
Here we go again. This is not teaching the Faith. Who is saying we command air except you? You think people believe doctors are god and those that ride in airplanes think they are commanding air. No one is saying this. It's evident in your posts that even basic reasoning is suffering.
Stop with the useless tactics and give some evidence of your claims besides picking irrelevant verses based on one or two words. Let us search the quran for repentance and death and voila. How is this even responding? Who said the doctors told patients to pray before they die? 3 guesses, oh what the heck, it was once again YOU. Who is saying people at emergency accident care have their organs stolen and that is no big deal? YOU. You constantly disrupt with something no one is saying. They're called red herrings and avoiding the subject. This is not even something subtle that no one can see except a few.And you may want to call Jango off. It's clear he thinks you're a very hardy plant but this is neither the time nor the place.
Savage... You are already in Savaged Condition now... One Non Believer will join with another Non Believer...Get the company of oneonly
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Bang Bang Bang.. What else you do when you get away from Truth
We watch this or this depending on our mood.
Savage... You are already in Savaged Condition now... One Non Believer will join with another Non Believer...Get the company of oneonly
You apparently want the company of the trash section again.
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Why, I feel better already! Droneandonly you're my only hope ;D
I am glad you feel better!! BTW it is not me who has healed your pain!! It was God. You did not go to doctor and I prayed for you. God loves those who do not go to doctors!!! whatever
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Bang Bang Bang.. What else you do when you get away from Truth
Salaam Jango,
Since it seems you are a puppet, would you mind answering my questions on behalf of drfazl please?
Answer that makes sense would be appreciated.
Peace
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I am glad you feel better!! BTW it is not me who has healed your pain!! It was God. You did not go to doctor and I prayed for you. God loves those who do not go to doctors!!! whatever
I'm going to insist you create a website oneandonly...where others can benefit from you not healing but God healing. It's even better if you have a Q&A session where you can tell us how your prayers didn't help.
Messed up eh.
God helps those who help themselves has apparently never crossed drfazl's mind. Then again, his idea of helping oneself is to do nothing but pray for a miracle. 1311? He probably thinks it means changing their minds about going to a doctor.
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Peace to All
Iam sure for you all it would be difficult to digest Dr.Fazl's website FOOLPROOFCURE,
but still as a beneficiary I would like to reiterate my views. Initially it was difficult
for me also to accept a cure for a chronic disease just by faith/prayer healing, but
having seen MIRACLE the sign of cure , was not easy to snub away, by God's grace.
Thereafter Dr.Fazl's every Sunday speeches, articles in monthly magazine and
website, books and weekly TV speeches, helped me and my family members in
gaining confidence in FAITH HEALING. Do not mistake it as a blind belief,
for when one is able to get a clear idea of why a disease occur , cure results in
reversing the cause. For example dis-ease is a result of loosing our easiness.
So by God's grace if we tread in the path of ease we would be disease free.
Refer 87-8, 92-7
For a believer, the path of ease would become easier and easier for the days to come,
wherein existing diseases would not only go away, also one can prevent disease.
Regards
Balachandran
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Peace,
Why does this give me the feeling of when Christians praise Jesus?
God bless you
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Aoa
I am glad you feel better!! BTW it is not me who has healed your pain!! It was God. You did not go to doctor and I prayed for you. God loves those who do not go to doctors!!!
& the cheque is in the post for your prayers healing her & saving her from the evil doctors.
Regards
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Ooh and drfazl is on the attack again after once again ignoring posts, points and reasoning altogether. I don't feel like indulging your feigned ignorance on what that difference is when it's something that is in every post and is perfectly clear. Your insistence that belief in God means avoiding doctors, medicine and anything whatsoever other than prayer. Anyone who believes in going to a doctor to get a cure is committing an unforgivable sin. Anyone who uses medicine is prideful and evil and knows better than God. There is no evidence for this. This is a huge claim.
You understand very well about the unforgivable sin; but again start rejecting because you cannot come out of the evil death at the hands of MM. Why? I will ignore such dark-minded posts after this one.
Already answered. No, you cannot teach faith. I'm not surprised that you don't get what it looks like where you're a mufti in a q&a session.
If you had answered why should ask the same question again. You will never learn what Faith is because of your abstruseness.
Drfazl what should I do for my ear ache? 2 recitations every day and call me after a week.
Should I answer this mockery of Allah's Way or Verses? Tis is the way of the rejecters.
And see what you shout now? Mad at who? When you shout, how come you are calling me to have patience? I am not shouting at 14 pts. Real madness. I could have avoided this post. But you would say I have ignored the post. I will teach you basic method of exchange of views. Write only if you have coherence of thoughts.
Nobody is associating man mad medical assumptive knowledge to God's fool proof Almighty Power. I keep repeating this constantly. Please have some patience while reading your posts? Really, now the gloves come off.
.I am ignoring you. Here again read your own posts and write again. Before that read the responses and try to understand. Take one topic at a time. Or take one word at a time to understand the full meaning before conversing. For example the quote below
I've READ your non evidenced claims over and over in different threads in different ways, it takes me 45 minutes to respond to most of these posts because I want to be sure I've understood. Can you say the same Mr. Piecemeal Responder Who Asks After Days Of Posts Explaining The Difference What The Difference Is Between Belief In God And His Own Belief? This just shows how self absorbed you are and how much you've read of anything.
Everything is in the hands of God. Whether they're with doctors or not. You forget that God is in full control. Read the quran and take your time. God is not with those who make claims insisting what belief in God comprises of according to their own opinions.
Here we go again. This is not teaching the Faith. Who is saying we command air except you? You think people believe doctors are god and those that ride in airplanes think they are commanding air. No one is saying this. It's evident in your posts that even basic reasoning is suffering.
Stop with the useless tactics and give some evidence of your claims besides picking irrelevant verses based on one or two words. Let us search the quran for repentance and death and voila. How is this even responding? Who said the doctors told patients to pray before they die? 3 guesses, oh what the heck, it was once again YOU. Who is saying people at emergency accident care have their organs stolen and that is no big deal? YOU. You constantly disrupt with something no one is saying. They're called red herrings and avoiding the subject. This is not even something subtle that no one can see except a few.Now you tell me there are no thousands of accident care deaths at the hospitals every day? Are there no brain deaths at the hands of the doctors? And the organs are not stolen such as kidney racketeers? Have you not heard of all these around the world day in and day out?
And you may want to call Jango off. It's clear he thinks you're a very hardy plant but this is neither the time nor the place.
The red herrings and out of subject. Stick to one topic at a time. Whew! I think I must ignore you totally. Please find someone who wants to put up with your tantrums.
Salam
Savage_carrot
Salam again for good. -
You understand very well about the unforgivable sin; but again start rejecting because you cannot come out of the evil death at the hands of MM. Why? I will ignore such dark-minded posts after this one.
No one comes out of death, evil or otherwise, just sayin'. You've been ignoring pretty much everything anyways, why the need for repetition?If you had answered why should ask the same question again. You will never learn what Faith is because of your abstruseness.
Wrong choice of fancy word?Should I answer this mockery of Allah's Way or Verses? Tis is the way of the rejecters.
And see what you shout now? Mad at who? When you shout, how come you are calling me to have patience? I am not shouting at 14 pts. Real madness. I could have avoided this post. But you would say I have ignored the post. I will teach you basic method of exchange of views. Write only if you have coherence of thoughts.
Lol. Mirror + drfazl = irony. 14 pt is nothing. Even if I turn it up to 20 it would still be incoherent whispering to you. Out of all the content in the posts, this is what throws you into a frenzy? Really? Right. Font size is where drfazl draws a line. It's okay for his cronies to 'shout' verses and thoughts in the same font size however. Hypocrisy much?Now you tell me there are no thousands of accident care deaths at the hospitals every day? Are there no brain deaths at the hands of the doctors? And the organs are not stolen such as kidney racketeers? Have you not heard of all these around the world day in and day out?
Red Herrings (in 14pt!)
The red herrings and out of subject. Stick to one topic at a time. Whew! I think I must ignore you totally. Please find someone who wants to put up with your tantrums.
The real disrespect is refusing to answer any content whatsoever. On top of that, by putting allegations on the other person of being "incoherent, mad and throwing a tantrum" makes you appear to be a victim and garner support. When all along you're the one who's been disrespectful, making false claims and refusing to provide evidence, trying to sidle and slide out of answering pretty much anything, by bringing in organ removal, organ stealing, The Who (not even the band because that might have earned you some points) and so on. These tactics may serve you well in other places since you seem to have a lot of practice with them, but not here and not with me.
Salam
Savage_carrot
Salam again for good.
It's not like I haven't read that one before. -
Aoa SC
Wow admire your tenacity, same page as number of Rocky Films (showing my age) & still trying to get a teeny weeny sentence of fact or logic. May God continue to give you patience for many more pages.
Regards
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Ws SL,
I saw Rocky too! Though as a kid and probably not when you watched it gramps Logic and fact apparently are on vacation in the good doctor's case. Let us pray they come back.
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Aoa
Now you tell me there are no thousands of accident care deaths at the hospitals every day? Are there no brain deaths at the hands of the doctors?
I don't think the good lady or for that matter any one with an ounce of common sense will argue against accidental deaths in hospitals. However it is hardly a CIA or KGB kept secret. However it does not prove your point that medicine & it's practitioners are evil. The benefits of medicine are infinitely greater than any harm that may be caused & before you start off one your long and pointless rants. It is universally acknowledged.
When you want to get in a modern vehicle, car, plane or whatever takes your fancy. You want to be somewhere quicker than if you set of purely on what you may perceive what Mother Nature gave you, namely feet. You may want to be near a loved one to pray for them or stick a needle into them to save their life. If distance of thousands of miles then you may be able to stick a needle quicker if you utilised modern transport. Whatever choice you make there is chance you night be involved in an accident and die. In this instance the disadvantages will outweigh the benefits. However I doubt that you walk everywhere.Anyhow the harms of alternative practitioners like needle stickers & supposed holy curers do is phenomenally greater than any perceived benefit.
And the organs are not stolen such as kidney racketeers? Have you not heard of all these around the world day in and day out?
For goodness sake grow up. Unpleasant humans in every walk of life not just medicine, although considerably less than many other areas.
Regards
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Aoa
& the cheque is in the post for your prayers healing her & saving her from the evil doctors.
Regards
Your shirk for money must go before you receive His Grace. Read Quran. Allah says you need to spend for food cause. In this case spend for your own good so that Allah would give you more. Because Allah does not waste the reward of good doers. I think you will read Quran before mocking. Have some fear for Allah.
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No one comes out of death, evil or otherwise, just sayin'. You've been ignoring pretty much everything anyways, why the need for repetition?
Then why seeking the doctors and how come you believe they are your saviours? Are you not ignoring God is your all time Protector?
It's okay for his cronies to 'shout' verses and thoughts in the same font size however. Hypocrisy much?
I am concerned with the posts you write to me. If someone shouts at you, you moderate them through due advice as I am moderating you.
Red Herrings (in 14pt!)
This shout is ugly, I dismiss it.
The real disrespect is refusing to answer any content whatsoever.
The contentious issue is whether to believe in god Alone or God also, thus committing shirk which Allah says is unforgivable. I am answering in the like manner and direction from where and how the question comes. The problem is your out right denial of verses. Now you say you cannot beat the death. My answer is then why docs. I am to the target. How can you receive when you deny and with your refusal?
On top of that, by putting allegations on the other person of being "incoherent, mad and throwing a tantrum" makes you appear to be a victim and garner support.
See your lies. When did I seek support from any one. You know my stance. Allah is my only supporter. And you never understand who you are replying to. I never even reply to any one acknowledging. "I am victim; I am garnering support" what is this? Are you disoriented?
When all along you're the one who's been disrespectful, making false claims and refusing to provide evidence, trying to sidle and slide out of answering pretty much anything, by bringing in organ removal, organ stealing, The Who (not even the band because that might have earned you some points) and so on. These tactics may serve you well in other places since you seem to have a lot of practice with them, but not here and not with me.
I am standing by Allah's verses disrespecting the shirk which shaitan induces; and not disrespecting persons as such. May be my replies will be much lighter than the manner in which I am receiving the question. You need to read all my posts again to see the truth I was attacking the system MM. I am not attacking personally any one as you and your coterie are doing against me all along. All of you are hiding behind your nick names. I do not even know as to who any one of you behind those masks so as to put blame on me I am insulting personally any one. But I have no masks. I garner support not but from Allah. So your insult is directly aimed at me. Not the same with me is true if you are one of understanding. You are open denier and mocker of the verses; where is the question me of playing tactics with you?
I doubt anything more would bring you to value Allah Alone and make you fear your shirk of Allah Also.
Salam.
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Then why seeking the doctors and how come you believe they are your saviours? Are you not ignoring God is your all time Protector?
The fact that after pages and pages of explanations of where, why and what is the difference... you still refusing to acknowledge those posts by comprehending what is said, is revealing.I am concerned with the posts you write to me. If someone shouts at you, you moderate them through due advice as I am moderating you.
By this point your various cronies/accounts are well established, though we do have some new clones come into the fray like dr.rks. You claim you have no idea what they're saying? Dream on. You don't care what they say as long as they 'support' you publicly. To bring up the hurt by someone using 14pt is ridiculous. Get a grip.This shout is ugly, I dismiss it.
Your claims are ugly. Sadly, one can't dismiss it in good conscience.The contentious issue is whether to believe in god Alone or God also, thus committing shirk which Allah says is unforgivable. I am answering in the like manner and direction from where and how the question comes. The problem is your out right denial of verses. Now you say you cannot beat the death. My answer is then why docs. I am to the target. How can you receive when you deny and with your refusal?
Proof that you refuse to understand what the other side keeps saying. Not even can't comprehend, but a refusal because you claim to understand things when it supports you. It's called denial. My hopeful nature however thinks that deep down you understand, you're just suppressing it because you've built up your entire persona based on this. In most cases of disagreements between rational people, they do tend to agree on some points because even to a limited degree they choose to understand something of what the other is saying...you're a very special case drfazl.See your lies. When did I seek support from any one. You know my stance. Allah is my only supporter. And you never understand who you are replying to. I never even reply to any one acknowledging. "I am victim; I am garnering support" what is this? Are you disoriented?
The trick to a discussion with you is agreeing with everything you say because no one can reason with you.I am standing by Allah's verses disrespecting the shirk which shaitan induces; and not disrespecting persons as such. May be my replies will be much lighter than the manner in which I am receiving the question. You need to read all my posts again to see the truth I was attacking the system MM. I am not attacking personally any one as you and your coterie are doing against me all along. All of you are hiding behind your nick names. I do not even know as to who any one of you behind those masks so as to put blame on me I am insulting personally any one. But I have no masks. I garner support not but from Allah. So your insult is directly aimed at me. Not the same with me is true if you are one of understanding. You are open denier and mocker of the verses; where is the question me of playing tactics with you?
I doubt anything more would bring you to value Allah Alone and make you fear your shirk of Allah Also.
Funny that you bring up coterie, how's yours doing? Growing by the day hm? Has a call to arms been sent out on the emergency channels of your website? Lol new grievance...nicknames! Are they haram too? Insulting a nickname isn't insulting the person eh drfazl? Nice, nice. I'm an open denier and mocker of the verses? Wonderful, new creative ways of calling me a 'disbelieving atheist'.