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Nearness and Guidance -> Knowledge and Wisdom = Peace and Prosperity

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    I'm certainly not restricted to "quran only". But anyway, I'll remain silent. -X . . . )
    No-one can.
    rotfl
    Meaningless.. to you, yes apparently.
    Religious? Not at all. I stand apart from religion.
    But what do you pay heed to?

    Peace sun

    Meaningless.. to you, yes apparently.
    Religious? Not at all. I stand apart from religion.
    But what do you pay heed to?

    Sincerity. genuine sincerity. And not bibble-babble and meaningless sanctimonious spiels . . .

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      Peace,

      Please no fighting here. The Chimp is entitled to his opinion. Perchance there is someone else who appreciates the studies.

      God bless whom he wills

      I have questioned you and found you lacking. . . in so many ways. What you write is nothing more than meaningless spiels. If you were genuine . . . and not trying to carve up a career as "wise" guy . . . and invested time in studying rather than spouting meaningless and baseless theories . . . then . . .

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        Peace The Chimp,

        Okay. Thanks for your input. Have a nice day.

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          I personally believe that Moses only received guidelines on two stone tablets which he and his people were told to follow and which also Jesus were taught to follow although he came with news which the Message Gospel means and you know yourself what Jesus spoke about if you read one of the Gospel testimonies. What they taught are part of the grand Message, but Torah and Gospel themselves are the abstract teachings of respective era. The Messengers before Gospel taught strictly what was of the Torah while Jesus elaborated and showed that you could regard the list of commandments as the minimum requirement. What the Jews know of the original prohibitions they had that is the Torah, but lots of what they do is inventions much like we know happens to Muslims today. Jews have a relatively small list of things to do; the ten commandments and some community-specific commands.

          I also believe in so.Actually all the phrophets never wrote anykinds of Scripture, they received revelations via oral transmission.
          It's third parties who wrote Scriptures in text, they can be companios, apostles, clerics etc.
          This supported by verses both in Tanakh til the Quran.

          I see the ten commandment itself is the result of religious councils, I never found this formula in Tanakh.

          God bless you.

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            Peace Earthdom.

            What about Moses?

            Did he receive Written tablets?

            Peace to you.

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              Chapter 17 Message check

              172 And We gave Moses the Message and We made it a guidance for the Children of Israel ?Do not believe in any besides Me.?
              173 The progeny of those whom We carried with Noah, he was a thankful servant.
              174 And We decreed in the Message to the Children of Israel, that you will make corruption twice on the earth, and that you will become very high and mighty.
              175 So, when the promise of the first one comes to pass, We would send against you servants of Ours who are very powerful, thus they managed to breach your very homes, and this was a promise which has come to pass.
              176 Then We gave back to you your independence from them, and We supplied you with wealth and sons, and We made you more influential.
              177 If you (2) do good, then it will be good for you, and if you (-2) do bad, then so be it. But when the promise of the second time comes, they will make your faces filled with sorrow and they will enter the Temple as they did the first time, and they will strike down all that was raised up.

              Red Phrase reinforcing the linguistic need for ketaab to be Message rather than Book.

              179 This Book guides to that which is more upright, and it gives glad tidings to the (1) believers who (2) do good works that they will have a bountiful reward.

              1710 And for those who do not believe in the Hereafter, We have prepared for them a painful retribution.
              1711 And man calls to evil as much as he calls to good, and man was always hasty.

              Blue The common man in a nutshell in my humble opinion.

              1719 And whoever seeks the Hereafter and (2) strives for it as it deserves, and is a (1) believing person, then to those what they have sought is given in thanks.

              1723 And your Lord decreed that you shall (1) not serve except He, and (2) do good to your parents. When one of them or both of them reach old age, do not say to them a word of disrespect nor shout at them, but say to them a kind saying.

              1725 Your Lord is fully aware of what is in your souls. If you are (2) good, then He is to the obedient a Forgiver.
              1726 And give the (2) relative his due, and the poor, and the wayfarer; and do not waste excessively.
              1727 Those who (-2) waste excessively are brothers to the devils, and the devil was to his Lord a rejecter.

              Green Consume in moderation.


              1728 And if you turn away from them to seek a mercy from your Lord which you desire, then say to them a gentle saying.
              1729 And do not make your hand stingy by holding it to your neck, nor shall you lay it fully open so you become in despair and regret.
              1730 Your Lord lays out openly the provision for whom He wishes, and He is able to do so. He is Expert and Seer over His servants.

              Green I interpret these verses as in spoiling yourself in some provisions from God and it ought to be done modestly and without making a big display of it. But the verse tells that it can be done righteously as long as you show appreciation. This set of verses show part of my chain of Faith called 'Peace and Prosperity' when God has begun to bless the Believer with provisions.


              1731 And do not (-2) kill your children out of concern of poverty; We shall provide for you and them. The killing of them was a big mistake.
              1732 And do not come near (-2) adultery, for it is immoral and an evil path.
              1733 And do not (-2) take a life, for God has made this forbidden, except in the course of justice. And whoever is killed innocently, then We have given his heir authority, so let him not transgress in the taking of a life, for He will be given victory.
              1734 And do not (-2) come near the money of the orphan, except for that which is best, until he reaches his independence. And fulfill the pledge, for the pledge brings great responsibility.
              1735 And (2) give full measure when you deal, and weigh with a balance that is straight. That is (2) good and better in the end.
              1736 And do (-2) not uphold what you have no knowledge of; for the hearing, eyesight, and heart - all these you are responsible for.
              1737 And do not walk in the land (-2) arrogantly, for you will not penetrate the earth, nor will you reach the mountains in height.

              1738 All of this is (-2) bad, and disliked by your Lord.

              1739 That is from what your Lord has inspired to you of the Wisdom. And do not make with God (-1) another god, or you will be cast into Hell, blameworthy and regretting.

              Blue Even if God gives the right to kill in the course of justice it is more righteous to save a life whenever possible.
              Green Some people would probably abuse this against what I have written here despite it is just copy-pasting from The Book and writing commentary. Okay, they would say so about ketaab and quran, but I stand by that.
              Red And that is basically the whole Message printed out in a short sequence of verses, together with the verses what you should do above the horizontal line and the one above that including the text in bold. Uphold justice is the key.


              1741 And We have dispatched in this Book that they may remember, but it only increases their aversion!

              1745 And when you read the Book, We place between you and those who do not believe in the Hereafter an invisible barrier.
              1746 And we place shields over their hearts, that they should not understand it, and a deafness in their ears. And if you mention your Lord in the Book alone, they run away turning their backs in aversion.

              1757 The ones you call on, they are themselves seeking a path to their Lord which is nearer, and they desire His mercy, and they fear His retribution. The retribution of your Lord is to be feared!

              Blue It is a hint that God is not necessarily referring to stone statues and such idols but real people who are being revered as gods. It would obviously question those who hold for example Muhammad excessively high.

              1758 And there is not a town before the Day of Resurrection that We will not destroy it, or punish it with a severe punishment. This is in the Message.

              1760 And when We said to you ?Your Lord has encompassed the people.? And We did not make the vision that We showed you except as a test for the people, and the tree that was cursed in the Book. And We are making them fearful, but it only increases their transgression.


              1765 ?As for (1) My servants, you (Shaytaan) will have no power over them.? And your Lord is enough as a Caretaker.

              Red As long as a person struggles to fulfill the criteria in this circular diagram and by following the Message, the above verse is true for them

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              1773 And they nearly diverted you from what We inspired to you so that you would fabricate something different against Us, and then they would have taken you as a friend!
              1774 And if We had not made you stand firm, you were about to lean towards them a little bit.
              1775 Then, We would have made you taste double the retribution in this life and double the retribution in death. And then you would not find for yourself any victor against Us.
              1776 And they nearly intimidated you so they could drive you out of the land. But then they would have been destroyed shortly after you were gone.
              1777 Such was the way of those whom We had sent before you of Our messengers. And you will not find any change in Our way.

              Blue And the "infallible" Muhammad nearly commits a grave sin except that The Lord saved him from doing so. So much for infallibility.

              1778 Hold the Communion till the setting of the sun; to the murkiness of the night; and the Book at dawn - the Book at dawn is witnessed.

              Red In case the verse above should be read in conjunction with the preceding verses it would mean that the Communion mentioned here was something specific for the Messenger in this narration. Otherwise The Lord surely switches fast from directing the focus on Muhammad to other people.

              1779 And from the night, as an addition, you shall reflect upon it for yourself, perhaps your Lord would grant you a station that is praiseworthy.
              1780 And say ?My Lord, admit me an entrance of truth and let me exit an exit of truth, and grant me from Yourself a support to victory.?
              1781 And say ?The truth has come and falsehood has perished. Falsehood is always bound to perish!?
              1782 And We send down from the Book what is a healing and mercy to the believers. And it only increases the wicked in their loss.


              1785 And they ask you concerning the Spirit. Say ?The Spirit is from the authority of my Lord; and the knowledge you were given was but very little.?
              1786 And if We wished, We would take away that which We have inspired to you. Then you would not find for yourself with it against Us a caretaker.

              Red The Holy Spirit which is some special The Force-like energy in the Universe which runs stronger in some people. It is interesting that one can draw a parallel to something like Star Wars.

              1787 Except for a mercy from your Lord. His grace upon you has been great.
              1788 Say ?If all mankind and the Jinn were to gather to bring a Book like this, they could not come with its like, even if they were helping one another.?
              1789 And We have dispatched to the people in this Book from every example, but most of the people refuse to be anything but rejecters!


              1790 And they said ?We will not believe unto you until you cause a spring of water to burst out of the ground?
              1791 ?Or that you have an estate of palm trees and grapes, and you cause gushing rivers to burst through it.?
              1792 ?Or that you make the heaven fall upon us in pieces as you claimed, or that you bring God and the angels before us.?
              1793 ?Or that you have a luxurious home, or that you can ascend into the heavens. And we will not believe in your ascension unless you bring for us a message that we can read.? Say ?Glory be to my Lord. Am I anything other than a human messenger!?
              1794 And what stopped the people from believing when the guidance came to them, except that they said ?Has God sent a human messenger??

              Green How highly the people usually regard their (previous) Messengers. Muhammad, Jesus are seldom regarded as common folks.


              17105 And it is with the truth that We have sent it down, and with the truth it came down. And We have not sent you except as a bearer of good news and a warner.

              17110 Say ?Call on God or call on the Almighty; by whichever you call on, to Him are the best names.? And do not be too loud in making your Communion, nor too quiet; but seek a path in between.
              17111 And say ?Praise be to God who has not taken a son, nor does He have a partner in sovereignty, nor does He have an ally out of weakness.? And magnify Him greatly.

              Red Obviously an example of what kind of phrase you can have in your Communion, but it is a conversation or monologue to God and it has a purpose other than parroting phrases as the Pagans. We have proved relatively well in previous examinations that Communion is serves a purpose of communication with The Lord. is a word that connotes communication/connection and several other related meanings and is not able to change the meaning so much out from the root's meaning.

              We have many examples of Communion in The Book where people implore God or talks to God about their issues and so we have in the Bible too. This is the salah one ought to keep.

              Green God has no definite name, but call upon Him by whatever suitable name you find that is honorable.

              God bless you

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                Peace good logic,

                The tablets were with written information and they did not contain endless amounts of words but some phrases, a small portion of what people claim. There are no 603 laws or whatever the Jews claim, but they were given some brief commandments and from there the conjecture begun.

                The history repeats itself now with "Islam's" sharia laws and the conjecture (hadith) which is out there, while the Message is very simple and one would be fine by simply obeying the text on the tablets from thousands of years ago. If we apply our intellect we can live with the teachings of Moses as they supply enough Guidance together with when we seek the blessings of The Lord.

                The question is which faction beats the other in amount of conjecture in rotation.

                And I will be threatened and mocked (and perhaps killed) for simply proclaiming the Message, but that is fine because it is a noble mission. Believe and do good and communicate with the Lord and fight injustice. This I stand by.

                And I am sorry that I replied in Earthdom's stand.

                God bless you

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                  Peace brother.

                  Actually I practice 604 laws.But they all originate from one single law

                  LOVE. ( Love GOD and love your fellow humans)

                  GOD bless you

                  Peace.

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                    Peace good logic,

                    The tablets were with written information and they did not contain endless amounts of words but some phrases, a small portion of what people claim. There are no 603 laws or whatever the Jews claim, but they were given some brief commandments and from there the conjecture begun.

                    The history repeats itself now with "Islam's" sharia laws and the conjecture (hadith) which is out there, while the Message is very simple and one would be fine by simply obeying the text on the tablets from thousands of years ago. If we apply our intellect we can live with the teachings of Moses as they supply enough Guidance together with when we seek the blessings of The Lord.

                    The question is which faction beats the other in amount of conjecture in rotation.

                    And I will be threatened and mocked (and perhaps killed) for simply proclaiming the Message, but that is fine because it is a noble mission. Believe and do good and communicate with the Lord and fight injustice. This I stand by.

                    And I am sorry that I replied in Earthdom's stand.

                    God bless you

                    How ironic . . . you accuse others of "conjecture", yet, commit the same crime. And when you are questioned about this . . . you are NOT able to answer.

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                      Peace.

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                        The_Chimp
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                        Peace.

                        Saying this doesn't really help out . . . you will start all over again.

                        If you are unable to answer . . . then stop making accusations about others. . . and inventing guff.

                        Look how quickly your "rubbish" is demolished. If you are genuine . . . learn from it and improve. . . rather than trying to put about that you are some kind of real wise guy.

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                          Peace,

                          Okay. Thanks for your input, The Chimp.

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                            Chapter 18 Message check

                            181 Praise be to God who has sent down the Message to His servant, and He has not made in it any crookedness.

                            182 It is valuable, giving warning of the severe punishment from Him; and it gives glad tidings to the (1) believers who do (2) good works, that they will have an excellent reward.

                            183 In which they will remain eternally.

                            Blue/Red The Message black on white. This is the criteria of God's creed and system.


                            The cave-dwellers

                            1813 We tell to you their news with the truth. They were youths (1) who believed in their Lord, and We increased them in Guidance.
                            1814 And We made firm their hearts when they stood and said ?Our Lord, the Lord of the heavens and the earth, we will not call besides Him any god. If we have done so then it was in error.?
                            1815 ?Here are our people, they have taken gods besides Him, while they do not come with any clear authority. Who then is more wicked than he who invents lies about God??

                            This was in a Communion (salah) to God they said this and it is just what it is communication.

                            They were so strong in Faith (infused with the Holy Spirit) that God inspired to them

                            1816 ?So when you withdraw from them and what they serve besides God, seek refuge in the cave, and your Lord will spread His mercy upon you and prepare for your problem a solution.?

                            A reverent Believer should believe that God could possibly go this straight-forward to us and inspire this clearly to us, possibly through an angel though it is not clear from the narration.

                            Green They sought God's Nearness and thus they gained Guidance much like in my thread's approach with Nearness and Guidance.


                            1827 And recite what has been inspired to you from the Message of your Lord, there is no changing His words, and you will not find besides Him any refuge.

                            1830 Those who (1) believe and do (2) good works, We do not waste the reward of those who have done good work.


                            This narration with the two men who had gardens might make us question what God means with setting up partners with God which is echoed throughout the whole Book. There are no partners as far as I am concerned except his own ego here, so logically it should mean that every instance in The Book follows the same reasoning when it comes to associating partners with God. It could be just anything which you believe is a help other than God in deciding the outcome of things.

                            1832 And give them the example of two men We made for one of them two gardens of grapes, and We surrounded them with palm trees, and We made crops in their midst.
                            1833 Each of the two gardens brought forth its produce, and none failed in the least. And We caused a river to gush through them.
                            1834 And he had fruit, so he said to his friend while discussing with him (-2) ?I am better off than you financially, and of great influence.?
                            1835 And he went back into his garden while he had wronged himself. He said ?I do not think that this will ever perish.?
                            1836 ?And I do not think that the Hour is coming. And if I am indeed returned to my Lord, then I will surely find even better things for me.?
                            1837 His friend said to him while discussing with him ?Have you disbelieved in the One who has created you from dust, then from a seed, then He evolved you into a man??
                            1838 ?But He is God, my Lord, and I do not set up any partners at all with my Lord.?
                            1839 ?And if you enter your garden, you should say ?This is what God has given, there is no power except by God.? You see me as being less than you in wealth and in children??
                            1840 ?Perhaps my Lord will give me better than your garden, and He will send upon it a tornado from the sky, so it becomes completely barren.?
                            1841 ?Or that its water becomes deep under-ground, so you will not be capable of seeking it.?
                            1842 So his fruits were ruined, and he began turning his hands at that which he had spent on it while it remained destroyed upon its branches. And he said ?I wish I had not set up any partner with my Lord!?

                            Blue He was pretty arrogant, yes? Well, he seems to have believed but that he could somehow evade the requital from God or he would not have used these words. Perhaps he thought that God actively blessed him and that he was better than the poor (or less rich) and less famous man. The arrogant man disbelieved in the absolute authority of God, but he doubted a bit as he said "if" and talked about "my Lord".


                            1854 And We have dispatched in this Book for the people from every example; but man has always been most argumentative.

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                            Verses mainly been talking about Moses travel companion and it is a good lesson in it.

                            18102 Did those who reject think that they could take My servants as allies besides Me? We have prepared Hell for the rejecters as a dwelling.

                            Some people think that Muhammad can help them.


                            18107 Those who (1) believe and do (2) good works, they will have the gardens of Paradise as a dwelling.


                            18109 Say ?If the sea were an inkwell for the words of my Lord, then the sea would run out before the words of my Lord run out;? even if We were to bring another like it as an extension.

                            18110 Say ?I am but a human being like you, being inspired that your god is One god. So whoever looks forward to meeting his Lord, then let him (1) do good works, and (1) not serve anyone besides his Lord.?

                            What is the matter with you? Do you not think the Lord is right here right now?

                            God bless you

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                              Chapter 19 Message check

                              The righteous Zachariah was performing his Communion (salah)

                              192 A reminder of the mercy of your Lord to His servant Zachariah.
                              193 When he called out to his Lord secretly.
                              194 He said ?My Lord, my bones have gone frail, and my hair has turned white, and I have never been mischievous in imploring You my Lord.?
                              195 ?And I fear the kinfolk after I am gone, and my wife is infertile, so grant me from Yourself an ally.?
                              196 ?To inherit from me, and inherit from the descendants of Jacob. And make him my Lord, well pleasing.?

                              The Lord responded

                              197 ?O Zachariah, We give you glad tidings of a son whose name is John. We have not given that name before to anyone.?

                              Zachariah in return expressed

                              198 He said ?My Lord, how can I have a son when my wife is infertile, and I have reached a very old age??

                              The Lord (Himself) responded again

                              199 He said ?It is such that your Lord has said. It is an easy thing for Me. And I had created you before, when you were not a thing.?

                              Purple It is pretty obvious that the words were inspired directly from the Lord with no middle-hands, probably as he was performing the communication (salah) with God.

                              1910 He said ?My Lord, make for me a sign.? He said ?Your sign is that you will not speak to the people for three nights consecutively.]?

                              Red Zachariah is still addressing The Lord indicating that the kind of communication is taking place between him and God. It is possible that God's words are echoing inside the recipient's mind and not like a normal verbal communication. I have myself not had the pleasure of having this kind of clear communication with The Lord, but I believe that it could happen and it is probably not usually happening except in rare cases or when your Faith has reached a certain strength.

                              1911 So he went out among his people from the temple enclosure, and he indicated to them that they should glorify Him at dawn and dusk.

                              Green Giving fuel to those who propose a two salat schedule. I would say that you ought to glorify and/or commune with Him as often as possible and when required (which ought to be quite often since we implore Him for our needs). But I would be able to agree that the least you can do is glorify The Lord at the both ends of the day.


                              1912 ?O John, take the Message with confidence.? And We gave him authority while in his youth.

                              The standard interpretation (with Book) sounds lame in this phrase while with my "conjecture" Message is slightly better.

                              1913 And tenderness from Us, and purity, and he was ever (2) righteous.
                              1914 And (2) dutiful to his parents, and never was he a disobedient tyrant.
                              1915 And peace be upon him the day he was born, and the day he dies, and the Day he is resurrected alive.

                              This John was curiously similar to Jesus in his appearance, i.e. how Jesus is usually described, but they are separate persons. It was just an observation.

                              1916 And relate in the Message, Mary, when she withdrew herself from her family to a place which was to the east.
                              1917 So she took a barrier to separate her from them, so We sent Our Spirit to her, and he took on the shape of a human being in all similarity.
                              1918 She said ?I seek refuge with the Almighty from you if you are righteous.?
                              1919 He said ?I am the Messenger of your Lord, to grant you the gift of a pure son.?
                              1920 She said ?How can I have a son when no human being has been with me, nor have I desired such??
                              1921 He said ?It is such that your Lord has said, it is easy for Me. And We shall make him a sign for the people and a mercy from Us. It is a matter already ordained.?
                              1922 So she was pregnant with him, and she went to deliver in a far place.
                              1923 Then the birth pains came to her, by the trunk of a palm tree. She said ?I wish I had died before this, and became totally forgotten!?
                              1924 But then he called to her from beneath her ?Do not be sad, your Lord has made below you a stream.?
                              1925 ?And shake the trunk of this palm tree, it will cause ripe dates to fall upon you.?
                              1926 ?So eat and drink and be content. If you see any human being, then say ?I have vowed an abstinence for the Almighty, so I will not talk today to any of mankind.??
                              1927 Then she came to her people carrying him. They said ?O Mary, you have come with a thing totally unexpected!?
                              1928 ?O sister of Aaron, your father was not a wicked man, and your mother has never been unchaste!?
                              1929 So she pointed to him. They said ?How can we talk to someone who is a child in a cradle??
                              1930 He said ?I am a servant of God, He has given me the Message and made me a prophet.?
                              1931 ?And He has made me blessed wherever I am, and He has charged me with the (1) Communion and Purification as long as I am alive.?
                              1932 ?And to be (2) dutiful to my mother, and He has not made me a mischievous tyrant.?
                              1933 ?And peace be upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the Day I am resurrected alive.?
                              1934 Such was Jesus, son of Mary, and this is the truth of the matter in which they doubt.
                              1935 God was never to take a son, be He glorified. If He decrees a matter, then He simply says to it ?Be,? and it is.

                              1936 And God is my Lord and your Lord, so serve Him. This is a straight path.


                              1941 And recall in the Message, Abraham; he was a man of truth, a prophet.

                              1951 And recall in the Message, Moses; he was loyal, and he was a messenger prophet.

                              1954 And recall in the Message, Ishmael; he was truthful to his promise, and he was a messenger prophet.

                              Note Sometimes the English word 'lore' comes to mind to describe the word phenomenon 'ketaab' in some strange way.

                              1955 And he used to instruct his family to the Communion and Purification, and his Lord was pleased with him.

                              1956 And recall in the Message, Enoch; he was a man of truth, a prophet.

                              1958 Those are the ones whom God has blessed from among the prophets from the progeny of Adam, and those We carried with Noah, and from the progeny of Abraham and Israel, and from whom We have guided and chosen. When the revelations of the Almighty are recited to them, they fall down prostrating, and in tears.


                              1959 Then, generations came after them who lost the Communion, and followed desires. They will find their consequences.
                              1960 Except for whoever repents and (1) believes and does (2) good works; they will be admitted to the Paradise, and they will not be wronged in the least.

                              1962 They will not hear in it any nonsense, only peace. And they will have their provision in it morning and evening.

                              Red Too right. No nonsense conjecture they will hear in there.

                              1964 ?And we are not sent except by the authority of your Lord. To Him are our present and our future, and all that is in-between. And your Lord was never to forget.?
                              1965 ?The Lord of the heavens and the earth and what is between them. So serve Him and be patient in His service. Do you know anything that is like Him??

                              1970 Then, it is We who are best aware of those who deserve to be burnt therein.

                              Red Exactly. God knows and people cannot decide for others. Particularly those who do not obey the Message themselves.

                              1976 And God increases the guidance of those who are guided. And the goodness that endures is better with your Lord as a reward and a far better return.


                              For the Christians

                              1988 And they said the Almighty has taken a son!
                              1989 You have come with a gross blasphemy.
                              1990 The heavens are about to shatter from it, and the earth crack open, and the mountains fall and crumble.
                              1991 That they claimed that the Almighty had a son!
                              1992 And what need does the Almighty have to take a son?

                              Blue It shows that God strongly disapproves of those who say... the bad words involving a trinity.


                              1996 Those who (1) believe and do (2) good works, the Almighty will make for them affection.

                              1997 Thus We have made this easy in your tongue so that you may give good news with it to the righteous and that you may warn with it the quarrelsome people.

                              This was indeed a Book intended for the people who received it, although it does not mean that other people cannot find Guidance in it, but it is not an exclusive Message for Arab-speaking people. The Message is not limited to this Book and

                              18109 Say ?If the sea were an inkwell for the words of my Lord, then the sea would run out before the words of my Lord run out;? even if We were to bring another like it as an extension.

                              God bless you

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                                Chapter 20 Message check

                                202 We did not send down to you the Book so you may suffer.
                                203 It is but a reminder for he who is concerned.
                                204 Sent down from the One who has created the earth and the heavens above.

                                208 God, there is no god except He, to Him are the beautiful names.


                                209 And did the narrative of Moses come to you?
                                2010 When he saw a fire, he said to his family ?Stay here, I have seen a fire, perhaps I can bring a piece from it, or find at the fire some guidance.?
                                2011 So when he came to it he was called ?O Moses.?
                                2012 ?I am your Lord, so take off your slippers; you are in the holy valley Tuwa.?
                                2013 ?And I have chosen you, so listen to what is being inspired.?
                                2014 ?I am God, there is no god except Me, so serve Me and hold the Communion for My remembrance.?

                                Red Do you think Moses held his communication with God in Arabic?

                                2065 They said ?O Moses, either you cast down or we will be the first to cast down.?
                                2066 He said ?You cast down.? So their ropes and staffs appeared from their magic as if they were moving.
                                2067 And Moses held some fear in himself.
                                2068 We said ?Do not fear, you will best them.?
                                2069 ?And cast down what is in your right hand it will consume what they have made. They have only made the plans of a magician, and the magician will not succeed no matter what he does.?
                                2070 So the magicians went down in prostration. They said ?We believe in the Lord of Aaron and Moses.?

                                Purple God's voice probably echoed in his mind because it was likely not aloud on site.


                                2074 He who comes to his Lord as a (-2) criminal, he will have Hell, where he will neither die in it nor live.
                                2075 And he who comes to Him as a (1) believer doing (2) good works, for those will be the highest ranks.


                                2083 ?And what has caused you to rush ahead of your people O Moses??
                                2084 He said ?They are coming in my tracks, and I came quickly to you my Lord so you would be pleased.?
                                2085 He said ?We have tested your people after you left, and the Sumerian misguided them.?

                                Purple Likely a rhetorical question because God certainly knew anyway.


                                2087 They said ?We did not break the promise by our own will, but we were loaded down with the jewelry of the people so we cast them down, and it was such that the Sumerian suggested.?
                                2088 He then produced for them a sculpture of a calf that emitted a cry. So they said ?This is your god and the god of Moses, but he had forgotten!?
                                2089 Did they not see that it did not respond to them? Nor did it possess for them any harm or benefit?

                                Blue Man has always a need to materialize God. It does not matter when and what. For the Christians it was Jesus because God is unseen. And man has furthermore materialized The Book (Qur'an) too much too.


                                20103 They whisper among themselves ?You have only been away for a period of ten.?
                                20104 We are fully aware of what they say, for the best among them will say ?No, you have only been away for a day.?

                                Green It will feel like nothing when you are through with your life. You will see how short your life really was, and if you have done many vain things you will also regret that.

                                20112 And whoever does any (2) good works, (1) while he is a believer, then he should not fear injustice nor being given less than his due.

                                20113 And it was such that We sent it down an Arabic book, and We dispatched in it the warnings, perhaps they will become aware or it will cause them to remember.
                                20114 Then High above all is God, the King, the True. And do not be hasty with the Book before its inspiration is completed to you, and say ?My Lord, increase my knowledge.?

                                20124 ?And whoever turns away from My remembrance, then he will have a miserable life, and We will raise him blind on the Day of Resurrection.?

                                20130 So be patient to what they are saying and glorify the grace of your Lord before the rising of the sun, and before its setting, and at the approach of the night - you shall glorify - and at parts of the day, perhaps you may be content.

                                Red Compare this verse with this one

                                1911 So he went out among his people from the temple enclosure, and he indicated to them that they should glorify Him at dawn and dusk.

                                20131 And do not crave with your eyes what We have bestowed upon some couples from them; the flower of the worldly life; so as to test them in it; and the provision of your Lord is better and more lasting.
                                20132 And instruct your family to the Communion, and be patient for it. We do not ask you for provision, for We provide for you. And the ending will be for righteousness.

                                Red The reason you keep Communion is to implore God for provisions and other things, plus show appreciation and simply communicate with your ally, God.

                                God bless you

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                                  Chapter 21 Message check

                                  212 When a reminder comes to them from their Lord that is recent, they listen to it while playing.

                                  217 And We did not send before you except men whom We inspired to. So ask the people of the Reminder if you do not know.

                                  2110 We have sent down to you a Message in which is your remembrance. Do you not comprehend?


                                  What do those who do not believe do wrong really? It is the opposite of the Message I have been discussing in this thread. Check here

                                  2111 And how many a town have We destroyed because (-2) it was wicked, and We established after them a different people?
                                  2112 So it was that when they perceived Our power, they were running from it.
                                  2113 ?Do not run, and come back to that which you were living lavishly in and your homes; so that you will be questioned.?
                                  2114 They said ?Woe to us, (-2) we have been wicked!?

                                  Blue They act with injustice, arrogance and evil deeds etc and it is not purely because they do not believe God punishes them.


                                  The Believers glorify The Lord around the clock

                                  2120 (1) They glorify in the night and the day, they do not cease.


                                  2124 Or have they taken gods besides Him? Say ?Bring your proof. This is a reminder of those with me and a reminder of those before me.? But, most of them do not know the truth, so they turn away.

                                  2125 And We did not send any Messenger before you except that We inspired him that (1) ?There is no god except Me, so serve Me.?

                                  2128 He knows their present and their future, and they cannot intercede unless it is for those whom He is pleased with. And, from His concern, they are worried.

                                  Green And many people think that Muhammad can intercede on their behalf if they only follow their sect's dogma.

                                  2135 Every soul will taste death. And We burden you with evil and good as a test, and it is to Us that you will return.

                                  Red People are tested, but once we unconditionally believe in God with our hearts then there is less harsh testing, or we feel it as less harsh because we trust the Lord. But it is certain that God would not harshly test someone He knows would not fail to believe because God would not pain His servants which are stable in Faith.

                                  2145 Say ?I am merely warning you with the inspiration.? But the deaf do not hear the call when they are being warned.

                                  Red Yes. Merely warning...

                                  2148 And We had given Moses and Aaron the Criterion, a shining light, and reminder for the righteous.

                                  Red I am relatively sure that this is the tablets in stone with the short set of rules.

                                  2150 And this is a blessed reminder which We have sent down. Will you be deniers of it?

                                  2173 And We made them leaders who guide by Our command, and We inspired them to do (2) good works and hold the (1) Communion and contribute towards Purification, and they were in service to Us.

                                  2175 And We admitted him into Our mercy. He was of the (2) good doers.

                                  2177 And We granted him victory against the people who denied Our revelations. They were a people of (-2) evil, so We drowned them all.

                                  2186 And We admitted them in Our mercy, they were of the (2) good doers.

                                  2190 So We responded to him, and We granted him John, and We cured his wife. They used to hasten to do (2) good, and they would (1) call to Us in joy and in fear. And of Us they were (1) reverent.

                                  2192 This is your nation, one nation, and I am your Lord so serve Me.


                                  2194 So whoever does (2) good works and he is a (1) believer, then his efforts will not be rejected and We will record it for him.


                                  21105 And We have written in the Psalms ?After the remembrance, that the Earth will be inherited by My servants who do good.?

                                  This is a well-known phrase to those who call themselves Christian. The funny thing is that people think the Message is something completely different. Shaytaan manages to divert people from the path in various ways, from sons to Pagan rituals.

                                  21106 In this is a proclamation for a people who serve.
                                  21107 And We have not sent you except as a mercy to the worlds.
                                  21108 Say ?It is inspired to me that your god is but One god, so will you submit to Him??

                                  God bless you

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                                    Chapter 22 Message check

                                    228 And from the people are those who argue regarding God with no Knowledge nor Guidance nor enlightening Message.

                                    2214 God admits those who (1) believe and do (2) good works to estates with rivers flowing beneath them. God does as He wishes.

                                    2216 And as such, We have sent down clear revelations, and God guides whoever He wishes.


                                    2217 Surely those who (1) believe; and those who are Jewish, and the Sabians, and the Nazarenes, and the Majoos, (and the "Muslims" and those who were polytheists; God will separate between them on the Day of Resurrection. For God is witness over all things.

                                    2223 God will admit those who (1) believe and do (2) good works to estates with rivers flowing beneath them, wherein they will be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls, and their garments will be of silk.

                                    2224 And they are guided to the (2) good sayings, and guided to the path of the Praiseworthy.


                                    2235 Those who, when God is mentioned, their hearts reverence, and they are patient to what befalls them, and they hold the (1) Communion, and from what We provide them they spend.

                                    2249 Say ?O people, I am but a clear warner to you!?
                                    2250 As for those who (1) believe and do (2) good works, for them is a forgiveness and a great provision.

                                    2256 The sovereignty on that Day is to God, He will judge between them. So as for those who have (1) believed and did (2) good works, they are in gardens of bliss.

                                    God bless you

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                                      Chapter 23 Message check

                                      232 Those who are humble when making their (1) Communion.
                                      233 And they (2) abstain from vain talk.
                                      234 And they are (2) active towards purification.
                                      235 And they (2) keep covered their private parts.

                                      239 And those who maintain their (1) Communions.

                                      2349 And We have given Moses the Message, so that they may be guided.

                                      2351 ?O messengers, eat from what is good, and do (2) good work. I am aware of what you do.?

                                      2357 As for those who are, from the (1) concern of their Lord, worried.
                                      2358 And they (1) believe in the revelations of their Lord.
                                      2359 And they (1) do not set up anything with their Lord.
                                      2360 And they (2) give of what they were given, and their hearts are full of reverence that they will return to their Lord.
                                      2361 These are the ones who race in doing (2) good, and they are the first to it.
                                      2362 And We do not burden a soul except with what it can bear. And We have a record that speaks with the truth, they will not be wronged.


                                      When it is all over the time on Earth will not feel long at all for us

                                      23112 He said ?How long have you stayed in the earth in terms of years??
                                      23113 They said ?We remained for a day, or for part of a day. So ask those who kept count.?
                                      23114 He said ?You have remained for very little, if only you knew.?

                                      God bless you

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                                        Chapter 24 Message check

                                        I skip the verses in the beginning of this which involve 'zina' because I am not inspired enough to understand their real meaning, but I have a hard time to accept that it means to lash those who commit adultery and then the whole first part of the chapter to be linguistically formed the way it is. My bet would be that the true story is the way brother noshirk has laid forth with giving false testimony.

                                        2436 In homes that God has permitted to be raised, and His name mentioned in them. He is glorified therein in the mornings and the evenings.
                                        2437 By men not distracted by trade or sale from the (1) remembrance of God and holding the Communion, and contributing towards Purification. They fear a Day when the hearts and sight will be overturned.
                                        2438 God will reward them for the (2) best of what they did, and He will increase them from His grace. And God provides for whom He wishes without reckoning.

                                        Red This phrase is recurring several times as if there are only two Communions per day, or God would never had places with only two glorification moments.


                                        2441 Do you not see that everything in the heavens and the earth glorifies God? Even the birds in formation, each knows its Communion and its glorification. And God is fully aware of everything they do.

                                        Red The traditional understanding of salat as contact prayer does not make any sense at all in this verse. It simply cannot mean prayer in that regard. It is only communion, communication, tie or bonding that the word can mean, if you respect my humble opinion.

                                        Remember this extract from the dictionary (green)

                                        communion / kmyunyn / noun

                                        2 formal a special relationship with someone or something which makes you feel that you understand them very well
                                        between/with
                                        In the mountains, I feel in communion with nature.


                                        2446 We have sent down to you clarifying revelations, and God guides whoever He wills to a straight path.


                                        2447 And they say ?We believe in God and in the messenger, and we obey,? but a group of them turn away after that. These are not believers.
                                        2448 And if they are invited to God and His messenger to judge between them, a party of them turn away.
                                        2449 But, if the judgment is in their favor, they come to him readily!
                                        2450 Is there a disease in their hearts, or are they doubtful? Or do they fear that God and His messenger would wrong them in the judgment? In fact, they are the wrong doers.
                                        2451 The utterance of the believers when they are invited to God and His messenger to judge in their affairs is to say ?We hear and obey.? These are the winners.
                                        2452 And whoever obeys God and His messenger, and is concerned by God, and aware of Him, then these are the winners.
                                        2453 And they swear by God with their strongest oaths that if you would only command them they would mobilize. Say ?Do not swear, for obedience is an obligation. God is Expert over what you do.?
                                        2454 Say ?Obey God, and obey the messenger.? But if they turn away, then he is only responsible for his obligation, and you are responsible for your obligations. And if you obey him, you will be guided. The messenger is only required to deliver clearly.

                                        Above verses are abused to validate hadith of Muhammad and such as that we ought to obey a Muhammad who has been dead for around 1400 years even if he left behind a noble testament to God's Message.


                                        2455 God promises those among you who (1) believe and do (2) good works, that He will make them successors on the earth, as He made successors of those before them, and He will enable for them their system which He has approved for them, and He will substitute security for them in place of fear ?That they serve Me, not setting up anything with Me.? And as for those who reject after that, these are the wicked.
                                        2456 And hold the Communion and contribute towards Purification, and obey the messenger, that you may attain mercy.

                                        2458 O you who believe, let those among you who are maintained by your oaths, and those who have not attained puberty, request your permission regarding three times before the dawn Communion, and when you put off your garments from the noon time, and after the evening Communion. These are three private times for you. Other than these times, it is not wrong for you or them to intermingle with one another. God thus clarifies the revelations for you. And God is Knowledgeable, Wise.

                                        Red Again two Communions with the morning and evening style.

                                        God bless you

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                                          Chapter 25 Message check

                                          2530 And the messenger said ?My Lord, my people have deserted this Book.?
                                          2531 And it is so that We make for every prophet enemies from among the criminals. And your Lord suffices as a Guide and a Victor.
                                          2532 And those who rejected said ?If only the Book was sent down to him in one go!? It was done as such so We could strengthen your heart with it, and We arranged it accordingly.
                                          2533 And for every example they come to you with, We bring you the truth and the best explanation.
                                          2534 Those who will be gathered to Hell on their faces, these are the most evil and the most strayed from the path.
                                          2535 And We gave Moses the Message and We made his brother Aaron a minister with him.

                                          2556 And We have not sent you except as a bearer of good news and a warner.
                                          2557 Say ?I do not ask you for any wage; but for whoever chooses to make a path to his Lord.?
                                          2558 And put your trust in the Eternal Who does not die, and glorify His praise. It is enough for Him that He is expert in the sins of His servants.

                                          2570 Except for the one who repents and (1) believes and (2) does good works, for those God will replace their sins with good, and God is Forgiving, Merciful.
                                          2571 And whoever repents, and does (2) good, then he shall repent towards God a true repentance.
                                          2572 And those who (2) do not bear false witness, and if they pass by vain talk they pass by with dignity.

                                          God bless you

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