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    muslims
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    And you become three kinds

    Then the companions of the right <- just
    what are the companions of the right?

    And the companions of the left <- unjust
    what are the companions of the left?

    And the forerunners, the forerunners <- justly balanced (Sunnatullah -> just + unjust)
    Those are the ones brought near
    In the Gardens of Pleasure

    (567-12)

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      In the name of Allah

      the Beneficent
      the Merciful

      All praise <- What for?
      is due to Allah <- Deen, dayn, debt, due

      the Lord of the Worlds <- Does human beings really witness this? How many?

      The Beneficent
      the Merciful

      Master of the Day of Judgment

      Thee do we serve <- serve comes first (obedience), only then eligible for help
      and Thee do we beseech for help

      Keep us <- Is there really a free will? Or influence on our free will?
      on the right path <- Who hold the key to the right path?
      The path of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed favors
      Not (the path) of those upon whom Thy wrath is brought down
      nor of those who go astray

      (11-7)

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        Level of
        Under-
        Level of standing Level of Impact of Level of
        Shirk the Qur'an Obedience Allah's tests Believers
        (Faith)


        100% 0% 0% -> Muslim -> -100 <- Faith equal to "Love Monkey"=No faith!

        http//s22.postimg.org/zaua8dhr1/monkey.png

        Proof that there is no faith... not yet.

        The test.

        Example on the standard required to attain righteousness

        By no means shall you attain to righteousness
        until you spend (benevolently)
        out of what you love
        and whatever thing you spend
        Allah surely knows it
        (392)

        And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah)
        Say What you can spare
        Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications
        that you may ponder
        (2219)

        Who can sadaqa all his property for Allah?

        Try practicing this for 7 continuous years without failed.

        Do you feel worry?

        Hard to accept?

        If yes, then there is no faith.

        It is quite simple.

        The believers
        are only <- exclusionary principle and the definition of believers
        the ones who have believed in Allah and His Messenger
        and then doubt not
        but strive with their properties
        and their lives
        in the cause of Allah
        It is those who are the truthful.
        (4915)

        Unquestionably, the allies of Allah
        there will be no fear concerning them
        nor will they grieve
        (1062-64)

        Do the people think
        that they will be left to say,
        "We believe"
        and they will not be tried?

        There are no fixed rules, and it can be the hardest things to achieve, or it can be the simplest things to achieve; which totally depends on the "Level of Shirk" within ourselves.

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          there is no target for becoming a Muslim.

          What really matters to Allah?

          What is Allah like to see from us?

          The struggling and going is the goal, and it doesn't matter where we start (or end), as long as we start somewhere and keep on improving our life and strengthening our faith.

          The actual requirement in the Qur'an is for human beings to learn, understand, and reform continuously for the better (istiqamah - changes from within ourselves comes first - roots of a tree).

          It is the process of understanding that matter, not the end results (comparison - how can one expect to be free from shirk within a short period of time? Impossible!). Therefore it doesn't matter or less relevant to Islam if peoples wear Hijab or not, since it is not the real issue in Islam. In fact, it is the most irrelevant issue to the society (it is personal issue - 5105).

          Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah
          are the deaf and dumb
          who do not use reason <- The importance of reason, and not becoming a robot (blind follower)
          (822) (trees without roots - how long can it hold straight on the ground?)

          And before it was the scripture of Moses
          to lead and as a mercy

          And this is a confirming Book
          in an Arabic tongue
          to warn those who have wronged
          and as good tidings to the doers of good <- Is this the reality of our life? Is it true? If not, why?
          Indeed, those who have said
          "Our Lord is Allah"
          and then remained on a right course
          there will be no fear concerning them
          nor will they grieve
          (4612-13)

          Do you not see
          that ships sail through the sea
          by the favor of Allah
          that He may show you of His signs?
          Indeed in that are signs
          for everyone patient <- the standard or main requirements, patient and grateful
          and grateful <- Alhamdu
          (3131)

          Indeed, Allah is with those
          who fear Him
          and those who are doers of good
          (16128)

          Those who believe
          and do righteous good deeds

          there is no sin on them
          for what they ate

          if they fear Allah
          and believe
          and do righteous good deeds

          and again
          fear Allah
          and believe

          and once again
          fear Allah
          and do good deeds

          with Ihsan (perfection)

          And Allah loves the good-doers
          (593)

          Except for those who repent
          correct themselves
          hold fast to Allah
          and are sincere in their deen for Allah <- requires understanding
          for those will be with the believers
          And Allah is going to give the believers a great reward
          (4146)

          There is not upon the weak
          or upon the ill
          or upon those who do not find anything to spend any discomfort
          when they are sincere
          to Allah and His Messenger
          There is not upon the doers of good any cause
          And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful
          (991)

          And cause not corruption upon the earth
          after its reformation
          And invoke Him in fear and aspiration
          Indeed, the mercy of Allah
          is near to the doers of good
          (756)

          Indeed, Allah does not allow to be lost the reward
          of the doers of good
          (9120)

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            #303

            +---- Controlled by Allah ----+
            | |
            | |
            +------- Favorite topics ------+
            | for religious people |
            | |
            Irrelevant Irrelevant
            to human to human
            (war zone) (war zone)
            | |
            | |
            | |
            | Freewill |
            | (Qur'an) |
            | (Sunnatullah) |
            | (Justly Balanced) |
            | | |
            | | |
            | Level of |
            | Alhamdu |
            | | |
            | | |
            Wrong |<----- 100% ----->| Right
            Evil | Good
            Unlucky 90% Lucky
            Ugly | Pretty
            Poor 80% Rich
            Etc. | Etc.
            ^ 70% ^
            | | |
            | 60% |
            | | |
            | 50% |
            | | |
            | 40% |
            | | |
            | 30% |
            | | |
            | 20% |
            | | |
            | 10% |
            | | |
            | 0% |
            | ^ |
            | | |
            | | |
            | (3131) |
            | patient (doers of good) |
            +------------- Grateful -------------+
            | Alhamdu |
            | ^ |
            Takes ^ Takes
            time | time
            ^ | ^
            | | |
            | Progressive |
            | | |

            • <------- Understanding ------>+
              |
              |
              Depends on the Level of Shirk
              |
              Those with "one heart" (no heart) will never commit Shirk
              Shirk or Faith requires "the right elements of" Iman and Amal to be presence
              Therefore
              Condition = Iman + Amal = Not Shirk/Faith
              Similarly = Iman + Amal = Not Shirk/Faith
              Iman + Amal = Shirk/Faith
              |
              And rely on Allah
              and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.
              Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior.
              (333-4)

            The struggling and going is the goal, and it doesn't matter where we start (or end), as long as we start somewhere and keep on improving our life and strengthening our faith.

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              muslims
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              #304

              Some example on better way to give everything in the path of Allah

              By no means shall you attain to righteousness
              until you spend (benevolently)
              out of what you love

              |
              |
              Duty
              |
              |
              Realisation and Fulfillment of Deen
              |
              |
              +----------------------+---------------------------------------+
              Self Family Society
              | | |
              | | +--------------------------+
              Realization of <-+ Charitable Business/Profesionalism
              Deen and Duty (Services and improvement

              of the society)

              Limit
              |
              |
              And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah)
              Say What you can spare
              Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications
              that you may ponder
              (2219)

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                The process of returning to Allah.

                Transition from the first realm (womb)
                (cutting umbilical cord - our path - bay'ah - to reconnect)
                ie. the importance of blessings from our parents - duty)
                http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                http//s9.postimg.org/4t3bkmt5r/twohearts.png

                Willingly (obedience) or unwillingly (disobedience) empty our heart to Allah

                The repentance accepted by Allah
                is only for those
                who do wrong
                in ignorance <- conditions for repentance - two conditions
                and then repent soon after
                It is those to whom Allah will turn in forgiveness
                and Allah is ever Knowing and Wise

                But repentance is not
                of those who
                do evil deeds <- conditions for repentance
                up until, when death comes to one of them, he says
                "Indeed, I have repented now,"
                or of those who die while they are disbelievers

                For them We have prepared a painful punishment
                (417-1

                Transition from the first realm (womb)
                (cutting umbilical cord - our path - bay'ah - to reconnect)
                ie. the importance of blessings from our parents - duty)

                And your Lord has commanded
                that you shall not serve (any) but Him

                and goodness to your parents
                If either or both of them reach old age with you
                say not to them "Ugh"
                nor chide them
                and speak to them a generous word
                (1723)

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                  What is reward and sin?

                  tools to enter paradise and avoiding hell?

                  It is obvious that we cannot avoid sin
                  It is the unavoidable things in life..
                  No matter how good we are ... how hard we try..
                  We will always committing sins and shirk (eg. refer here)

                  sin = dust

                  http//s16.postimg.org/r0fyr5g51/dusty.png

                  However, it is always easier to standing up for good deeds
                  It is easier to become a righteous person
                  It is something that are accomplishable

                  reward = soap

                  http//s18.postimg.org/c03hpnyw9/soap.png

                  Therefore, the actual system (or the awwaliyah) of the Deen of Islam is not really about avoiding sin

                  BUT it is more about becoming a righteous person

                  It is about benefiting humanity and kindness to His creation

                  Becoming humble and understand human beings and other living creatures...

                  It is Allah who will purifies us from our sin and shirk, no one can <- main reason why we need Allah (al-Fatihah)
                  and.. based on our good deeds and level of righteousness

                  Therefore, our real objectives are becoming a righteous person, while striving hard and praying to Allah for forgiveness.

                  Praying to Allah to show us the right path, and purify us from sins and shirk (since we can never avoids shirk).

                  Prostrate to Adam!

                  The relation between reward and sin .. which one is dominant in ourselves?

                  benefiting humanity, or on the issue of "right and wrong in religion"?

                  http//i40.tinypic.com/28slzs0.png

                  avoiding sin = right/wrong = fire element

                  ?Stupidity is the same as evil if you judge by the results.? (refer to al-Anfal22)

                  It is wonderful how much time good people spend fighting the devil
                  If they would only expend the same amount of energy loving their fellow men
                  the devil would die in his own tracks of ennui

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                    Saved from sin and shirk
                    (automatic processing of internal self)
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                    Auliya
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                    True Believer
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                    Mukmeen
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                    Muslim
                    http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                    Allah Purifies Us
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                    Reward
                    (soap)
                    http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                    Righteous Person
                    (main focus)
                    http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                    Good Deeds
                    (Benefiting Self and Humanity)
                    Making enemies and divisions (sectarianism, cf. Towards Human Unity)
                    http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                    Sin
                    (dust)

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                      Quote from muslims on September 13, 2013, 051513 pm

                      Example on the standard required to attain righteousness

                      By no means shall you attain to righteousness
                      until you spend (benevolently)
                      out of what you love
                      and whatever thing you spend
                      Allah surely knows it
                      (392)

                      And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah)
                      Say What you can spare
                      Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications
                      that you may ponder
                      (2219)

                      What is Sadaqah?
                      Is it physical material?
                      Or being faithfully Truthful for the purpose of Allah?

                      Peace

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                        Quote from muslims on September 13, 2013, 051513 pm

                        What is Sadaqah?
                        Is it physical material?
                        Or being faithfully Truthful for the purpose of Allah?

                        Peace

                        Salam

                        As per my current understanding it is something related to what we spend on the path of Allah.

                        http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=7712
                        (392)
                        (you spend)

                        http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=4191
                        (2219)
                        (they (should) spend)

                        You can enlighten us with your understanding or perspectives.

                        http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=1610
                        (29417)
                        (truthful)

                        root

                        to be truthful, true, sincere, speak the truth, establish or confirm the truth of what another has said, verify, keep faith, observe a promise faithfully, fulfill, speak veraciously, hold anyone as trustworthy. sadaqa fi al-qitaali - to fight gallantly. tsaddaqa - to give alms. sidqun - truth, veracity, sincerity, soundness, excellence in a variety of different objects, salubrious and agreeable, favourable entrance, praise. saadiqun - one who is true and sincere, one who speaks the truth. saadiqah - perfect woman. sadaqat (pl. saduqaat) - dowry. siddiiq - person who is trustworthy, sincere. saddaqa - to confirm, verify, fulfil. asdaqu - more true.

                        Sadaga (prf 3rd. p.m. sing.) He spoke the truth, declared the truth.
                        Sadagat (prf 3rd. p. f. sing.) She spoke the truth.
                        Sadaquu (prf. 3rd. p.m. plu.) They told truth, proved truthful.
                        Sadaqta (prf 2nd. m. sing.) Thou told the truth.
                        Sadaqna (prf. 1st. P. plu.) We fulfilled.
                        Saddaqa (prf 3rd. p.m. sing. II) Verified; Judged correctly; Accepted the truth; Believed; Proved true.
                        Saddaqat (prf. 3rd. p. f. sing. II) She testified, declared her faith in.
                        Saddaqta (prf. 2nd, p.m. sing. II.) Thou fulfilled.
                        Yusaddiqu (imp. 3rd. p.m. sing. II.) He confirms; Bears (me) out.
                        Yusaddiquuna (imp. 3rd. p.m.plu. II) They testify, accept the truth.
                        Tusaddiquuna (imp. 2nd. p.m. plu. II.) You realize the reality of, admit the truth.
                        Tasaddaga (prf. 3rd. p.m.sing. V.) He chooses to forego (and gave as charity).
                        Tasaddaquu (imp. 3rd. p.m. plu. V. acc.) You choose to fore go (and give as charity).
                        Tasaddaq (prt. m. sing. V) Be charitable, show us charity.
                        Yassaddaquu (imp. 3rd. p.m. plu. V. acc.) They forego, remit as a charity.
                        Assaddaga (imp. 1st. P. sing. V. ace.) I would have given alms.
                        Nassaddaqanna (imp. 1st. p. plu. V.) We will surely give alms.
                        Sidqun/ Sidqan (acc./n.) Truthfulness.
                        Saadiqun/Saadiqan (acc./ act. plc. n. sing.) True; Truth-teller; Truthful.
                        Saadiquun/Saadiqiin (acc./ ap-der. m. plu.) Truthful ones.
                        Saadigdtu (ap-derf plu.) Truthful women.
                        Sadagatin/Sadagatan (acc./gen. n.) Charity; Alms.
                        Sadaqaat (n. plu.) Charities; Alms.
                        Saduqaat (n. plu. of Saduqatun) Dowries.
                        Sadiiqun (act. 2nd. pic. m. sing.) Friend.
                        Asdaqu (m. sing, elative.) More truthful than.
                        Siddiqun (m, sing. ints.) Man of truth and veracity.
                        Siddiigatun (f sing. ints.) Woman of high truthful and veracity.
                        Siddiiquna/Siddiiqiina (gen./ m. plu. ints.) Truthful ones.
                        Musaddiqun / Musaddiqan (acc./ ap-der. m. sing. II.) ' Fulfilling; Confirming one.
                        Musaddiqiin (ap-der, m. sing. II. gen.) Confirming one.
                        Mutasaddiqiina (ap-der. m. plu. acc. gen. V.) Alms givers; Charitable ones.
                        Musaddiqina (ap-der m. plu. acc. V ) Alms-givers; Charitable ones.
                        Mutasaddiqaat (ap-der. f. plu. V.) Almsgiver women.
                        Musaddiqaat (ap-der. f. plu. V.) Almsgiver women.
                        Tasdiiqun (v. n.) Confirmation.

                        sadaqa vb. (1)
                        perf. act. 2177, 395, 3152, 5113, 943, 1226, 219, 2727, 293, 3322, 3323, 3652, 3974, 4721, 4827
                        n.vb. 5119, 6115, 102, 1093, 1780, 1780, 1950, 2684, 338, 3324, 3932, 3933, 4616, 5455
                        pcple. act. 223, 231, 294, 2111, 317, 393, 3168, 3183, 487, 4122, 5119, 640, 6143, 6146, 770, 7106, 7194, 9119, 1038, 1048, 1113, 1132, 1217, 1227, 1251, 1282, 157, 1564, 1954, 2138, 246, 249, 2631, 26154, 26187, 2749, 2764, 2771, 2849, 2929, 3228, 338, 3324, 3335, 3335, 3429, 3648, 37157, 4028, 4436, 4525, 464, 4622, 4915, 4917, 515, 5234, 5687, 598, 626, 6725, 6841

                        sadaqah n.f. 2196, 2263, 2264, 2271, 2276, 4114, 958, 960, 979, 9103, 9104, 5812, 5813

                        sadiq n.m. 2461, 26101

                        saduqat n.f. (pl. of saduqah) 44

                        siddiq n.m. 469, 575, 1246, 1941, 1956, 5719

                        saddaqa vb. (2)
                        perf. act. 3420, 3737, 37105, 3933, 6612, 7531, 926
                        impf. act. 2834, 5657, 7026
                        n.vb. 1037, 12111
                        pcple. act. 241, 289, 291, 297, 2101, 33, 339, 350, 381, 447, 546, 546, 548, 692, 3531, 3752, 4612, 4630, 616

                        tasaddaqa vb. (5)
                        perf. act. 2280, 545
                        impf. act. 492, 975
                        impv. 6310, 1288
                        pcple. act. 1288, 3335, 3335, 5718, 5718

                        LL, V4, p 390, 391, 392, 393

                        Peace.

                        p/s I doubt swam or fasting is understand correctly as per the true meaning of the Qur'an, BUT I like it!! )

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                          Salam

                          As per my current understanding it is something related to what we spend on the path of Allah.

                          http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=7712
                          (392)
                          (you spend)

                          http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=4191
                          (2219)
                          (they (should) spend)

                          You can enlighten us with your understanding or perspectives.

                          http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=1610
                          (29417)
                          (truthful)

                          Peace,

                          Being truthful is not giving away to the poor some physical material say, money or other worldly things of pleasure. Before helping the poor with materials of this world, it is pertinent to know how to identify as to towards who Allah directs our charitable lives to turn to.

                          Allah pins down the wrong doers and the transgressors with disease and poverty in order that they humble themselves before God and obey diligently His ordainment. The obedience that a believer shall truthfully observe and abide by is, to spend in the cause of Allah in richness and in poverty from whatever they possess when a righteous situation demands. Generally people will get angry at even normal household expenditures while in financial straitness; that is the testing point from Allah to see how they behave and how much they believe in Him that they would be justly recompensed in accordance with their patience; and He sees how much they remember the promise of Allah that for every good deed or endurance in the path of righteousness they would be endowed with a reward ten times more; and that it would be doubled and that it would grow in multiples thereof.

                          Allah loves those who restrain their anger during the times of constraints because of their belief in the truth and loves those who pardon the people. They spend towards righteousness generously from their limited allowance without miserliness, only to please Allah. And Allah too is pleased with such of them and for them is His Grace and Providence. They shall neither worry nor grieve. Towards this end each one shall strive truthfully spending his life and stand as a model of inspiration unto others, to establish the Truth.

                          3134 Who spend in the cause of Allah during ease and hardship and who restrain anger and who pardon the people - and Allah loves the doers of good.

                          However Allah might show as proof to the people of the community, the steadfastness of the very truthful and enduring believers by testing them under His direct supervision. For others their plight might seem as a mighty and a grave situation indeed, but it is Him who made their situation seemed so easy in their minds until He made them tide over it, rewarding them a grand lasting victory. Allah is powerful over all things. Allah would make their whole life a charitable sign to others that the promise of Allah is true they would neither suffer worry nor would they grieve over the losses. To make so is easy for Allah.

                          And the Living Sign of Allah's grace for others is the life of them who find it difficult to be liberal in the cause of Allah, yet unable to move about freely in the land. An ignorant one would think them self-sufficient because of their restraint, but you will know them by their sign. They do not ask people persistently. And whatever you spend of good - indeed, Allah is Knowing of it. 2273

                          Spending our lives in the cause of Allah, each one proving a word from Him in this world to help believe the poor ignorant people, is the truthful poor due upon us, in this life.

                          salam
                          fazl

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                            Being truthful is not giving away to the poor some physical material say, money or other worldly things of pleasure. Before helping the poor with materials of this world, it is pertinent to know how to identify as to towards who Allah directs our charitable lives to turn to.

                            The obedience that a believer shall truthfully observe and abide by is, to spend in the cause of Allah in richness and in poverty from whatever they possess when a righteous situation demands.

                            Spending our lives in the cause of Allah, each one proving a word from Him in this world to help believe the poor ignorant people, is the truthful poor due upon us, in this life.

                            Salam

                            To a certain extent, the above conclusions might have some truth in it, but your explanation is deviating and does not explain the word "sadaqah" in the context of Sura (392) and (2219); i.e. our discussion.

                            Further, being "truthful" is more about doing from what you understand about life and its relation to the Qur'an. There is no target for becoming a True Muslim, and there is no need for us to copy what other peoples are doing or follow some motivational books without understanding and experiencing its true meaning (including the Qur'an - refer to 625 and 5577-79).

                            The struggling and going is the goal, and it doesn't matter where we start (or end), as long as we start somewhere and keep on improving our life and strengthening our faith.

                            How a child can grow into an adult within 1 year?

                            How to grow into timber trees from seeds within 24 hours?

                            It is not the Sunnatullah and there is no target for becoming a Muslim.

                            Hijab is not the actual requirement in the Qur'an.

                            The actual requirement in the Qur'an is for human beings to learn, understand, and reform continuously for the better (istiqamah - changes from within ourselves comes first - roots of a tree).

                            It is the process of understanding that matter, not the end results (comparison - how can one expect to be free from shirk within a short period of time? Impossible!).

                            Life and our understanding is a process, and so as how we should live "our lives in the cause of Allah".

                            It is a journey and there is "truthfulness" in every stage and situation of our life

                            .. as long we keep on improving and strengthening our faith according to the Qur'an.

                            Age Concept of Right/Wrong

                            70 Being absolutely right for the level of 70 years old person "
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                            60 Being absolutely right for the level of 60 years old person "
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                            50 Being absolutely right for the level of 50 years old person "
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                            40 Being absolutely right for the level of 40 years old person "
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                            30 Being absolutely right for the level of 30 years old person "
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                            20 Being absolutely right for the level of 20 years old person "
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                            10 Being absolutely right for the level of 10 years old person "
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                            1 Being absolutely right for the level of 1 year old baby <-- limited by our senses, abilities etc.

                            Similarly, this can be applied to certain life conditions, psychological backgrounds, personal traits, ethnic, educational backgrounds, and etc. These are all variables, and the overall consequences are the Sunnatullah, Absolute Justice.

                            Therefore, does it really matter of being right or wrong?

                            Does the above pattern of being right or wrong really matters to Allah?

                            What about those who live 1,000 years ago, where there is no proper educational system, or where people unable to read the Qur'an? Can they survive and become a real Muslim? Can we apply the same concept of right or wrong?

                            What is the actual standard to become a Muslim?

                            There are no fixed rules, and it can be the hardest things to achieve, or it can be the simplest things to achieve; which totally depends on the "Level of Shirk" within ourselves.

                            Peace

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                              Muslims,
                              Peace

                              392
                              By no means shall you attain righteousness unless you give of that which you love; and whatever you give, of a truth Allah knows it well.

                              Note We love our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives, the wealth, the business and our houses. All these comprise our lives. And we love our lives much dearer than any other thing we possess. The life of people in this world is "But play and amusement, pomp and mutual boasting and multiplying among yourselves, riches and children". Love not all these but keep in your heart high above them all Allah, His Messengers, and your life in the cause of righteousness.

                              Sadaqa is wishing good. It is wishing righteousness, in the Name of Allah, the Guide. Thus by His grace you are elevated to a degree as a sign to others. And this is living the truthful life as ordained by Allah.

                              1. We will deal next after we are finished with this. And all the rest of your post shall have to be dealt with later.

                              Peace

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                                392
                                By no means shall you attain righteousness unless you give of that which you love; and whatever you give, of a truth Allah knows it well.

                                Note We love our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives, the wealth, the business and our houses. All these comprise our lives. And we love our lives much dearer than any other thing we possess. The life of people in this world is "But play and amusement, pomp and mutual boasting and multiplying among yourselves, riches and children". Love not all these but keep in your heart high above them all Allah, His Messengers, and your life in the cause of righteousness.

                                Sadaqa is wishing good. It is wishing righteousness, in the Name of Allah, the Guide. Thus by His grace you are elevated to a degree as a sign to others. And this is living the truthful life as ordained by Allah.

                                Salam

                                Below is the context of that ayat, and how Allah relates "gold", "ransom" and "spend" in the way of Allah; ie. love of gold (wealth) during our life and after death.

                                Indeed, those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers
                                never would the capacity of the earth in gold
                                be accepted from one of them
                                if he would ransom himself with it
                                For those there will be a painful punishment
                                and they will have no helpers
                                Never will you attain the good
                                until you spend
                                from that which you love
                                And whatever you spend
                                indeed, Allah is Knowing of it
                                (391-92)

                                I believe the ayat is explaining the "love of wealth (money - gold, coin, paper money etc)". Therefore, how can it be interpreted to give "our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives" in the way of Allah. They have their own free wills, and are responsible and accountable for themselves to Allah. We are not manager over them.

                                O you who have believed
                                upon you is yourselves
                                Those who have gone astray will not harm you when you have been guided
                                To Allah is you return all together
                                then He will inform you of what you used to do
                                (5105)

                                (also refer to 4033)

                                Peace.

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                                  Salam

                                  Below is the context of that ayat, and how Allah relates "gold" hypno, "ransom" and "spend" in the way of Allah; ie. love of gold (wealth) during our life and after death.

                                  Indeed, those who disbelieve and die while they are disbelievers
                                  never would the capacity of the earth in gold
                                  be accepted from one of them
                                  if he would ransom himself with it
                                  For those there will be a painful punishment
                                  and they will have no helpers
                                  Never will you attain the good
                                  until you spend
                                  from that which you love
                                  And whatever you spend
                                  indeed, Allah is Knowing of it
                                  (391-92)

                                  I believe the ayat is explaining the "love of wealth (money - gold, coin, paper money etc)". Therefore, how can it be interpreted to give "our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives" in the way of Allah. They have their own free wills, and are responsible and accountable for themselves to Allah. We are not manager over them.

                                  O you who have believed
                                  upon you is yourselves
                                  Those who have gone astray will not harm you when you have been guided
                                  To Allah is you return all together
                                  then He will inform you of what you used to do
                                  (5105)

                                  (also refer to 4033)

                                  Peace

                                  Salam

                                  Firstly, with reference to the understanding of the contextual application of Quran, we need to remember and know the following

                                  • Quran's ayats are not contradictory to each other.

                                  • Every ayat is supportive of and contributory to any other ayat any where in Quran.

                                  • Each ayat is explanatory to all times and all the events and all the occurrences of the past, present and future.

                                  • Any ayat should clarify to each man as to what in truth is happening around him with reference to that which is happening around him; and with reference to his individual life.

                                  • Accordingly, if Quran is a guidance to each individual from the beginning to the end of the world; and from birth to the death of each person, the context of any ayat is closely connected to each one's individualistic, and constantly changing situation of his life at any point of time; and his grade and degree of life he is living, from the heavens down to the earth.

                                  I believe the ayat is explaining the "love of wealth (money - gold, coin, paper money etc)". Therefore, how can it be interpreted to give "our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives" in the way of Allah. They have their own free wills, and are responsible and accountable for themselves to Allah. We are not manager over them.

                                  'Give' shall not mean to you giving away in ransom, but put them all and you in His Trust if your belief is, "Allah is the Only Guide". Allah loves those who put their trust in Him. When Allah loves you, you are not at all deprived of His Abundance. Such showing the Truthful Guidance to the people around by being ourselves model first, is the spending of our life, our entire life in charity.

                                  Peace.

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                                    Salam

                                    Firstly, with reference to the understanding of the contextual application of Quran, we need to remember and know the following

                                    • Quran's ayats are not contradictory to each other.

                                    • Every ayat is supportive of and contributory to any other ayat any where in Quran.

                                    • Each ayat is explanatory to all times and all the events and all the occurrences of the past, present and future.

                                    • Any ayat should clarify to each man as to what in truth is happening around him with reference to that which is happening around him; and with reference to his individual life.

                                    • Accordingly, if Quran is a guidance to each individual from the beginning to the end of the world; and from birth to the death of each person, the context of any ayat is closely connected to each one's individualistic, and constantly changing situation of his life at any point of time; and his grade and degree of life he is living, from the heavens down to the earth.

                                    'Give' shall not mean to you giving away in ransom, but put them all and you in His Trust if your belief is, "Allah is the Only Guide". Allah loves those who put their trust in Him. When Allah loves you, you are not at all deprived of His Abundance. Such showing the Truthful Guidance to the people around by being ourselves model first, is the spending of our life, our entire life in charity.

                                    Peace.

                                    RED is mine

                                    Salam

                                    I am discussing about Sura (391-92) and how Allah relates the word "spend" with "gold" and "love" (of wealth). I am not discussing about our entire "life" or the whole meaning of the Qur'an. The whole meaning of the Qur'an does not entirely depends on ayat (391-92) alone. Therefore we leave what is the meaning of the entire Qur'an and remain focuses on our discussion. As we can see, ayat (91) is the direct support for the meaning of ayat (92) and from these two ayats, the context "spend" and "love" is related to "gold". It is not related to "our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives".

                                    Therefore...

                                    Therefore, how can it be interpreted to give "our parents, children, brothers, wives, relatives" in the way of Allah. They have their own free wills, and are responsible and accountable for themselves to Allah. We are not manager over them.

                                    the context of any ayat is closely connected to each one's individualistic, and constantly changing situation of his life at any point of time; and his grade and degree of life he is living, from the heavens down to the earth.

                                    There is a difference between "the context of the ayat" (Qur'anic context - words of Allah) and "what you may understood by it" (your context - your philosophy). This is what happened in the past, where the ulama are imposing their own context to the Qur'an, as it is the Qur'an (claiming absolute truth). Therefore, I believe your methodology or concept of interpretation that "the context of any ayat is closely connected to each one's individualistic" are contradicting the following ayats. It will cause deviation and division in the society since many peoples have many different interpretations of the Qur'an, according to their own desires (4523)(2543).

                                    So direct your face toward the deen, inclining to truth
                                    the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created people
                                    No change should there be in the creation of Allah (deen)
                                    That is the correct deen
                                    but most of the people do not know
                                    (3030)

                                    O you who have believed
                                    DO NOT ask about things which
                                    if they are shown to you
                                    will distress you
                                    But if you ask about them while the Qur'an is being revealed
                                    they will be shown to you
                                    Allah has pardoned that which is past
                                    and Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing
                                    (5101)

                                    And indeed, there is among them a party
                                    who alter the Scripture
                                    with their tongues
                                    so you may think it is from the Scripture
                                    but it is not from the Scripture
                                    And they say, "This is from Allah ,"
                                    but it is not from Allah
                                    And they speak untruth about Allah while they know
                                    (378)

                                    Peace

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                                      Salam

                                      Firstly, with reference to the understanding of the contextual application of Quran, we need to remember and know the following

                                      • Quran's ayats are not contradictory to each other.

                                      • Every ayat is supportive of and contributory to any other ayat any where in Quran.

                                      • Each ayat is explanatory to all times and all the events and all the occurrences of the past, present and future.

                                      • Any ayat should clarify to each man as to what in truth is happening around him with reference to that which is happening around him; and with reference to his individual life.

                                      • Accordingly, if Quran is a guidance to each individual from the beginning to the end of the world;and from birth to the death of each person, the context of any ayat is closely connected to each one's individualistic, and constantly changing situation of his life at any point of time;and his grade and degree of life he is living, from the heavens down to the earth.

                                      Peace.

                                      Peace DrFazl

                                      Your Quote reminds me of

                                      2106
                                      Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?

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                                        Peace

                                        It is true, that "Allah has power over all things", but we dont... )

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                                          Peace

                                          We don't but "Allah has power over all things"

                                          876
                                          By degrees WE shall teach Quran, so that you may not forget.

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