Question on Prayer (salaat)
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Salaam 'Alaikum everyone, )
I have a question on Salat prayer.I've read few articles as well as watched Rashad Khalifa's Salat video.
All of them says we got salat ritual from Abraham. But none of them really explained from where did we got the prayer of Abraham.
In Rashad Khalifa's prayer video, he almost prays like sunnis but just doesn't mentioned the name of Prophet Muhammad.My question is, where is the salat of Abraham mentioned? How do we know that how Abraham prayed?
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You raise some good points. Now you need to research to get a better understanding. There are tons of posts around the topic of salat on this forum.
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You raise some good points. Now you need to research to get a better understanding. There are tons of posts around the topic of salat on this forum.
Thanks for your comment brother/sister.
I've read some of the posts here too. I've not found this answer anywhere. Everyone says we have to follow the religion of Abraham so we must pray like Abraham. So, where is the prayer of Abraham mentioned that people are talking about?
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I've read some of the posts here too. I've not found this answer anywhere. Everyone says we have to follow the religion of Abraham so we must pray like Abraham. So, where is the prayer of Abraham mentioned that people are talking about?
Because perhaps there is no answer?
Thus need to get back to the question...Why we must pray like Abraham?
And you can also query the bigger picture.. Why we pray in the first place? -
Or rather why God wants us to do the ritual using an undefined choreography?
Even bigger question, if God wants something (among them are puny being called human) to do something, will not the thing will certainly in 100% guaranteed does it?
Given that God is all powerful and His will will certainly be done. -
So does everyone mean to say we don't pray because God doesn't need our prayers? o
Allah says in the Qur'an,
""What put you into Saqar?"
They will say, "WE WERE NOT OF THOSE WHO PRAYED,What does that mean then?
And what people like "Rashad Khalifa" who prays but don't show from where did they get that prayer from?
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So does everyone mean to say we don't pray because God doesn't need our prayers?
Allah says in the Qur'an,
""What put you into Saqar?"
They will say, "WE WERE NOT OF THOSE WHO PRAYED,What does that mean then?
Key is the translation in red above.
Do you believe that "Mussaleen" means those who pray?And what people like "Rashad Khalifa" who prays but don't show from where did they get that prayer from?
Answer is in your question. They are blindly following their elders/system they are born in, without questioning it. 1736 commands us not to follow anything without confirmation by using God gifted faculties.
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Even bigger question, if God wants something (among them are puny being called human) to do something, will not the thing will certainly in 100% guaranteed does it?
Given that God is all powerful and His will will certainly be done.That is true and God has wished to give this puny called human, the freedom to choose. And 1736 commands us to choose wisely by using God given faculties instead of blindly following elders/system.
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That is true and God has wished to give this puny called human, the freedom to choose. And 1736 commands us to choose wisely by using God given faculties instead of blindly following elders/system.
And God doesn't know on what every human will eventually choose?
And what people like "Rashad Khalifa" who prays but don't show from where did they get that prayer from?
Rashad who???
Anyway... let him pray in any means that is comforting for him..Again.. back to the important question.. WHY do you pray?
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And God doesn't know on what every human will eventually choose?
My understanding at the time is that, time does not matter for God. He knows what every nafs chose in their lifetime using their freedom of choice and they will face the consequences of their choices.
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Key is the translation in red above.
Do you believe that "Mussaleen" means those who pray?Answer is in your question. They are blindly following their elders/system they are born in, without questioning it. 1736 commands us not to follow anything without confirmation by using God gifted faculties.
Salam dear brother, what does your research say about Salat?
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So the word "Musalleen" doesn't mean pray?
I saw the video from Qur'an Centric, but that didn't make sense to me. He says "Pray" in the Qur'an means to follow the commandments like "Not drinking alcohol, not cheating, lying etc.."
BUT, my question is, if that is so, then how will you explain the following verse?
"O ye who believe! when ye prepare for prayer, wash your faces, and your hands to the elbows; Rub your heads; and your feet to the ankles. "
So if that doesn't mean to pray, why do I need to wash my face, hands, heads and feet? )
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So the word "Musalleen" doesn't mean pray?
I saw the video from Qur'an Centric, but that didn't make sense to me. He says "Pray" in the Qur'an means to follow the commandments like "Not drinking alcohol, not cheating, lying etc.."
BUT, my question is, if that is so, then how will you explain the following verse?
"O ye who believe! when ye prepare for prayer, wash your faces, and your hands to the elbows; Rub your heads; and your feet to the ankles. "
So if that doesn't mean to pray, why do I need to wash my face, hands, heads and feet? )
What verse is that?
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Again.. back to the important question.. WHY do you pray?
Pray to Thank God for all that He has given us and to save myself from the Fire of Hell.
""What put you into Saqar?"
They will say, "WE WERE NOT OF THOSE WHO PRAYED,Rashad who???
Anyway... let him pray in any means that is comforting for him..Isn't Rashad Khalifa, a messenger of God?
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What verse is that?
Surah Maidah Verse 6.
Here is how Rashad Khalifa translates-
O you who believe, when you observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), you shall (1) wash your faces, (2) wash your arms to the elbows, (3) wipe your heads, and (4) wash your feet to the ankles.
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Surah Maidah Verse 6.
Here is how Rashad Khalifa translates-
O you who believe, when you observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), you shall (1) wash your faces, (2) wash your arms to the elbows, (3) wipe your heads, and (4) wash your feet to the ankles.
I checked the root word of faighsiloo (ا in 56 and it's Gh-Siin-Lam ( ل = wash, purify, removing of dirt or filth, cleanse; covered much or often; water with which one washes himself; a certain plant growing in places that exude water and produce salt, place for washing, spring.
ghasala vb. (1) impv. 56ghislin n.m. 6936
mughtasal n.m. 3842
ightasala vb. ( impf. act. 443
Lane?s Lexicon, Volume 6, pages 42, 43, 44 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=gsl
In 56 ghasala is used as second person masculine plural imperative verb or in Corpus Quran Verb (form I) igh'silu (ُ
Now unfortunately due to my poor knowledge of Quranic Arabic language & grammar, i do not know what the grammar term means, if some can clarify what they mean it would wonderful. Salamun Aleykum.
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Also i would like to make something clear I am not anti nor am i pro prayer. Salat can be prayers but it can also be following closely to Allah/God's divine laws in Al-Quran. See the root word of Salat
Sad-Lam-Waw ( و = prayer, supplication, petition, oration, eulogy, benediction, commendation, blessing, honour, magnify, bring forth, follow closely, walk/follow behind closely, to remain attached.
In a horse race when the second horse follows the first one so closely that its head always overlaps the first horse?s body that horse is called AL-MUSSALLI (i.e. the one who follows closely / remains attached).
Central portion of the back, portion from where the tail of an animal comes out, the rump.musalla (ي n. m. - 2125
salat (ة n. f. sing. - 23, 243, 245, 283, 2110, 2153, 2177, 2238, 2277, 443, 477, 4101, 4102, 4103, 4103, 4103, 4142, 4162, 56, 512, 555, 558, 591, 5106, 672, 692, 6162, 7170, 83, 835, 95, 911, 918, 954, 971, 9103, 1087, 1187, 11114, 1322, 1431, 1437, 1440, 1778, 17110, 1931, 1955, 1959, 2014, 20132, 2173, 2235, 2241, 2278, 232, 2437, 2441, 2456, 2458, 2458, 273, 2945, 2945, 3031, 314, 3117, 3333, 3518, 3529, 4238, 5813, 629, 6210, 7023, 7034, 7320, 985, 1075
salawat (ت nom. gen. n. plu. - 2157, 2238, 999, 2240, 239salla (ي vb.II m.
perf. act. 7531, 8715, 9610
impf. act. 339, plu. neg. 4102, plu. 4102, tusalli (ل neg. 984, yusallee (ي sing. 3343, yusalloona (ن plu. 3356
salli (ل impv. 9103, salloo (ا plu. 3356, 1082
musalleena (ن pcple. act. plu. acc. gen. 7022, 7443, 1074LL, V4, p 444, 445 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=SLW
