Pork is HALAL
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The reason why this Fake Mahdi keeps avoiding both of the questions is because he knows he's wrong and cornered by simple logic.
The fact is that 55 does not have the word "pork" in Arabic, yet he continues to translate it as such by adding it in parenthesis.
And that the ayah that forbid pork don't specifically say Muslims, which means that pork is forbidden for all mankind and jinn, including Jews.
And therefore this fake Mahdi is a liar and deliberately trying to distort Islam. Case closed.
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You should check your I.Q. level . rotfl
Because what IS NOT FORBIDDEN for the Jews is halal for muslim.
The FOOD (pork) OF THOSE GIVEN THE BOOK is halal for you ... anyone who rejects iman (in pork as halal), his actions will COME TO NOTHING and in the Next World he will be among the LOSERS. (55)
definition
pork = flesh of a pig
swine = a pigTherefore, "flesh of swine" = pork
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Peace Mahdi.
I appreciate it if we keep the discussion to one question at the time to get to the bottom of the argument.
Where did you get that pork is halal for Jews from?
Answer this question only for now.
Thank you.
GOD bless you.
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You should check your I.Q. level . rotfl
definition
pork = flesh of a pig
swine = a pigTherefore, "flesh of swine" = pork
I said. Which Arabic word in 55 means pork. Not what the definition of pork is. You are a literal retard.
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None in 6146 and 5.5 .. that's the point, and that's why my argument pork is HALAL, because Allah said nothing about "pork" was made haram for the Jews. There is no word "pork" in that verses, idiot. rotfl
Allah does not made haram pork for the Jews.
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None in 6145 and 5.5 .. that's the point, and that's why my argument pork is HALAL. idiot. rotfl
You keep quoting, "The FOOD (pork) OF THOSE GIVEN THE BOOK is halal for you ... anyone who rejects iman (in pork as halal), his actions will COME TO NOTHING and in the Next World he will be among the LOSERS. (55)"
Except 55 doesn't say pork like you just admitted so why are you knowingly distorting the Qur'an?
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Then why are you adding (pork) in 55 when you quote it and just admitted that it doesn't say that?
So you admit you're stupid, LOW I.Q. LEVEL? rotfl
I add the word pork because Allah does not made pork haram for the Jews. Read below, do you see Allah made haram pork the Jews?
WE MADE HARAM FOR THE JEWS every animal with an undivided hoof, and in respect of cattle and sheep, We made their fat haram for them, except what is attached to their backs or guts or mixed up with bone. That is how We repaid them for their insolence. And WE CERTAINLY SPEAK THE TRUTH (not the Torah/Bible). (6146)
None.. therefore, pork is halal for the Jews..
Therefore
The FOOD (pork) OF THOSE GIVEN THE BOOK is halal for you ... (55)
So what's wrong the word "(pork)" when verse 6146 does not made pork haram for the Jews? LOGIC FAILED! ... or low I.Q. level !
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Peace Mahdi.
I assume then that this answer is also for me, quoteWE MADE HARAM FOR THE JEWS every animal with an undivided hoof, and in respect of cattle and sheep, We made their fat haram for them, except what is attached to their backs or guts or mixed up with bone. That is how We repaid them for their insolence. And WE CERTAINLY SPEAK THE TRUTH (not the Torah/Bible). (6146)
None.. therefore, pork is halal for the Jews..
Do you mean the verse contains the complete list of items forbidden for the Jews?
Because that verse does not mention blood or dead animals or food dedicated to idols which you claimed are forbidden also.
Please clarify.
GOD bless you.
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I add the word pork
Enough said. Changing the words of God is a gross sin. Seek forgiveness from your Lord and stop distorting the Qur'an for your ego. I'm a clear warner.
55 does not say pork because it means that we're allowed to eat what the "people of the book" eat, which are Christians or Jews, as long as it doesn't contradict other prohibitions like pork or food that's dedicated to other than God.
And the ayah that forbid it don't specify who its forbidden for so you're falsely assuming that Jews are excluded only because God prescribed additional prohibitions for them.
In the name of God, the All-Mighty, the Merciful
378 And from among them is a group who twist their tongues with the Book so that you may think it is from the Book, while it is not from the Book, and they say it is from God while it is not from God, and they say about God lies while they know.
279 So woe to those who write the Book with their hands then say "This is from God," so that they can purchase with it a cheap price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they gained.
2911 God is fully aware of those who believed, and He is fully aware of the hypocrites.
1319 Is he who knows that the truth has been sent down to you from your Lord like he who is blind? Only those who possess intelligence will remember.
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I'm a clear warner.
nothing to do with a Warner or changing God's words.. but that is all about stupidity, LOGIC FAILED.. and you can't fix stupid... stupid can't fix themselves. brickwall
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nothing to do with a Warner or changing God's words.. but that is all about stupidity, LOGIC FAILED.. and you can't fix stupid... stupid can't fix themselves. brickwall
Except you already admitted that you changed God's words because 55 doesn't say pork and you added it yourself because if you don't distort the Qur'an like that then your argument collapses. Give it up because you're only harming yourself and anyone you manage to misguide.
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So what's wrong the word "(pork)" when verse 6146 does not made pork haram for the Jews? LOGIC FAILED! ... or low I.Q. level !
Stupid can't fix themselves...
and "brackets" does not mean you have change the Quran, a Book openly accessible to almost 8,000,000,000 peoples on Earth! rotfl
p.s. please don't claim you are a warner of Allah, "in the name of Allah " etc.. you are NOT APPOINTED BY ALLAH, and your I.Q. level is an insult to Allah and Islam. In fact, you are the Kafir of the SUNNATULLAH / Way of Allah / Nature / Law of Nature / Logic.
They have made their syahadat into a cloak and barred the Way of Allah / Sunnatullah / Nature / Law of Nature / Logic. What they have done is truly evil (DAJJALISM). (632) ... ALLAH FIGHT THEM! (634)
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The (الْأَعْرَابُ) arabs/ ideology/ politics/ Muhammadism are THE WORST in rejection and hypocrisy ( = DAJJAL), and more likely not to know Islam (surrender to Natural Order and make peace with Nature). (997)
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Complete irony
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with proofs and evidences.
Say, "This is my "Islam". "Islam" is with proofs and evidences!" (1210
The (الْأَعْرَابُ) arabs are THE WORST ...
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Peace Mahdi.
Are you ready to answer my last post?
Please address me in your reply to me so we keep our discussion clear.
Thanks.
GOD bless you.
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Permission General
The people, believers and messengers were all instructed to eat good things that are permissible 2/168, 2/172 and 23/51 respectively.Prohibition General
2/173, 5/3, 6/145 and 16/115Please note that Qur'an is the confirmation of the previous revelations from Allah.
2/97, 2/101, 3/3 etcThe Haadoo were forbidden certain food because of their wickedness as per 6/146
The foods they were forbidden in 6/146 are good things that were already permissible to them as per 4/160
The Haadoo were naturally forbidden from eating the food in 6/146 even though they have the desire to eat it, in the same way Musa was forbidden from accepting breast feeding from all other nursing mothers 28/12 the prohibitions were natural not instructional.
The claimed that before the Torah every food is permissible to the children of Israel except what Israel forbade himself is just a fallacy, because Allah asked the claimants to bring and read the Torah if they are truthful 3/93
Now there is claimed that pork is permissible to the Haadoo, therefore bring and read the Torah if you are truthful.
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Where did you get that pork is halal for Jews from?
Answer this question only for now.Rule of interpretation
Whatever Allah does not prohibit in this Quran, is HALAL.
Allah does not have to mention everything on Earth or in this UNIVERSE which is HALAL.
Simple rule.
Refer to verse 5101
and just to check, do you understand this ayat?
What it said?
You who have iman! do not ask about matters which, if they were made known to you, would make things difficult for you. If you do ask about them when the Quran is being sent down, they will be made known to you. Allah has ignored them. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, All-Forbearing. (5101)
You have been asking the same question from the start, and cannot show me any verses to counter the above argumentl ie. "if Allah said nothing about it, then be free...it is HALAL," Allah has ignored them. Allah is Ever-Forgiving.
Similarly, Allah said nothing about pork was made haram for the Jews. Therefore, it is HALAL, be free to eat it... Allah has ignored them. Allah is Ever-Forgiving; in case it is bad to eat pork.
THE DEFINITION OF IGNORANT PEOPLE
267 And when Musa said to his people
"Allah commands you to sacrifice a cow
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they said, "What! Are you making a mockery of us?"
He said, "I seek refuge with Allah from being one of the ignorant!"
268 They said, "Ask your Lord to make it clear to us what it should be like."
He said, "He says it should be a cow, not old or virgin, but somewhere between the two.
So do as you have been told."
269 They said, "Ask your Lord to make it clear to us what colour it should be."
He said, "He says it should be a red cow, the colour of sorrel, a pleasure to all who look."
270 They said, "Ask your Lord to make it clear to us what it should be like. Cows are all much the same to us. Then, if Allah wills, we will be guided."
271 He said, "He says it should be a cow not trained to plough or irrigate the fields — completely sound, without a blemish on it."
They said, "Now you have brought the truth."
So they sacrificed it — but they almost did not do it.
(They almost did not make pork halal, and when Allah said nothing about pork was made haram for the Jews ... and The FOOD (pork) OF THOSE GIVEN THE BOOK is halal for you ... (55))
AND there is no issue for blood and dead animal, ONLY FRESH MEAT, it is against common sense and words from the Quran... and "maggoty stinking" flesh since there is no verses that made haram these meats; eat and sell it to customers for profit... can be considered as HALAL.
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And We have sent down the Book to you with truth, confirming and conserving the previous Books. So judge between them by what Allah has sent down and do not follow their whims and desires deviating from the Truth that has come to you ... (54
And WE CERTAINLY SPEAK THE TRUTH (not the Torah/Bible).(6146)
• And the pig, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. You shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you. Leviticus 117-8 ESV
• And the pig, because it parts the hoof but does not chew the cud, is unclean for you. Their flesh you shall not eat, and their carcasses you shall not touch. Deuteronomy 148 ESV
but Allah does not make haram pork for the Jews..
and some other general examples ..
• You must not eat any decayed animal flesh because you are a people holy to the LORD your God. You can give decayed animal flesh to the immigrants who live in your cities, and they can eat it; or you can sell it to foreigners. Don't cook a lamb in its own mother's milk. ~ Deuteronomy 1421
• "Therefore say to them, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "You eat meat with the blood in it, lift up your eyes to your idols as you shed blood Should you then possess the land? ~ Ezekiel 3325
• "He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. ~ John 654
• So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves. ~ John 653
• "For My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink. ~ John 655
• "He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. ~ John 656
• I will make them EAT THE FLESH OF THEIR SONS AND DAUTHERS , and they will EAT ONE ANOTHER'S FLESH because their enemies will press the siege so hard against them to destroy them.' (Jeremiah 199)
• You will EAT THE FLESH OF YOUR SONS AND THE FLESH OF YOUR DAUGHTERS. (Leviticus 2629)
• Genesis 91-3 God made good come to Noah and his sons, and said to them, ?Have many children, and cover the earth. Every animal of the earth, every bird of the sky, everything that moves on the ground, and all the fish of the sea will be afraid of you. They are given into your hand. EVERY MOVING THING THAT LIVES WILL BE FOOD FOR YOU. I give all to you as I gave you the green plants.
• Deuteronomy 2852-53 They will lay siege to all the cities throughout your land until the high fortified walls in which you trust fall down. They will besiege all the cities throughout the land the LORD your God is giving you. Because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, YOU WILL EAT THE FRUIT OF THE WOMB, THE FLESH OF THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS THE LORD YOUR GOD HAS GIVEN YOU.
• Kings 626-29 As the king of Israel was passing by on the wall, a woman cried to him, ?Help me, my lord the king!? The king replied, ?If the LORD does not help you, where can I get help for you? From the threshing floor? From the winepress?? Then he asked her, ?What's the matter?? She answered, ?This woman said to me, ‘GIVE UP YOUR SON SO WE MAY EAT HIM TODAY, AND TOMORROW WE'LL EAT MY SON.' SO WE COOKED MY SON AND ATE HIM. THE NEXT DAY I SAID TO HER, ‘GIVE UP YOUR SON SO WE MAY EAT HIM,' BUT SHE HAD HIDDEN HIM.? When the king heard the woman's words, he tore his robes. As he went along the wall, the people looked, and they saw that, under his robes, he had sackcloth on his body. He said, ?May God deal with me, be it ever so severely, if the head of Elisha son of Shaphat remains on his shoulders today!?
• John 647-56 Very truly I tell you, the one (who believes has eternal life). I am the bread of life. Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.? Then the Jews began to argue sharply among themselves, ?How can this man give us his flesh to eat?? Jesus said to them, ?Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. WHOEVER EATS MY FLESH AND DRINKS MY BLOOD HAS ETERNAL LIFE, AND I WILL RAISE THEM UP AT THE LAST DAY. FOR MY FLESH IS REAL FOOD AND MY BLOOD IS REAL DRINK. WHOEVER EATS MY FLESH AND DRINKS MY BLOOD REMAINS IN ME, AND I IN THEM.
• Lamentations 410 The hands of the pitiful women have sodden THEIR OWN CHILDREN THEY WERE THEIR MEAT.
• Micah 32-3 "WHO PLUCK OFF THEIR SKIN FROM OFF THEM, AND THEIR FLESH FROM OFF THEIR BONES; WHO ALSO EAT THE FLESH OF MY PEOPLE, AND FLAY THEIR SKIN FROM OFF THEM; AND THEY BREAK THEIR BONES, AND CHOP THEM IN PIECES, AS FOR THE POT, AND AS FLESH WITHIN THE CALDRON."
• Ezekiel 2410-12 Heap on wood, kindle the fire, CONSUME THE FLESH, AND SPICE IT WELL, AND LET THE BONES BE BURNED. Then set it empty upon the coals thereof, that the brass of it may be hot, and may burn, and that the filthiness of it may be molten in it, that the scum of it may be consumed. She hath wearied herself with lies, and her great scum went not forth out of her her scum shall be in the fire.
Out of many things you can make haram, you chose to make haram "FRESH MEAT", which breeds well and can save our Earth.. and leave no prohibition for maggoty and stinking meat.. it is HALAL! That's funny.
You can give decayed animal flesh to the immigrants who live in your cities, and they can eat it; or you can sell it to foreigners. ~ Deuteronomy 1421
That's it.
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Peace Mahdi.
I am staying specific, so you say, quoteAND there is no issue for blood and dead animal, ONLY FRESH MEAT, it is against common sense and words from the Quran...
Since you say "did Allah forget to add pork in 6146" and claimed pork halal from 6146, why are you ignoring blood and dead animals also. Surely they were not mentioned also in 6146.
So your list from 5146 is incomplete. You cannot say that pork is not in the list, unless you bring the full list. Is this not simple logic?GOD bless you.
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Peace Mahdi
Just to clarify the last sentence from my previous postSo your list from 6146 is incomplete. You cannot say that pork is not in the list, unless you bring the full list. Is this not simple logic?
GOD bless you.
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So your list from 6146 is incomplete. You cannot say that pork is not in the list, unless you bring the full list. Is this not simple logic?
according to you that is logical? rotfl
here... where does it say pork?
specific rule..
WE MADE HARAM FOR THE JEWS every animal with an undivided hoof, and in respect of cattle and sheep, We made their fat haram for them, except what is attached to their backs or guts or mixed up with bone. That is how We repaid them for their insolence. And WE CERTAINLY SPEAK THE TRUTH (not the Torah/Bible). (6146)
Simple, and I don't have to waste my time just to prove "pork" was not mentioned in 6146. brickwall
#strawman fallacy
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