Biased translations are to be exposed.
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Word Qadda qāf dāl dāl (ق د د) is not tearing normal way but it means SLIT in a lengthy piece or elongated slit….
While root dāl bā rā (د ب ر) Activate/Actuate/stimulate/motivate/animate/energize1225 “And they both outran to the door, and she slit (Qaddath) his shirt/tunic from stimulation/actuation (dubur), and they both reconciled its chief at the door. She said, "What recompense who intended of your occupant (Ahlika) in shame except that imprisoning or a painful humiliation?"
1226 He said (Yousuf), ‘She seduced me on Myself.’; And testified as a witness from its occupants. "that it was of his shirt/tunic slit (qudda) from natural resistance/sever (Qubl), then she was trued (was truthful), and he is of the falsifiers.”
1227 And that it was of his shirt slit (qudda) from the actuation/stimulation (dubur), then she falsified/lied while he of the truthful ones.”
1228 So when noticed/saw his shirt/tunic slit from actuation/stimulation (dubur), he said, that it is among your plots. That your plots are destructive/disastrous (adeem).They found out by the force of the slit … resistance of threads of the fabric of the shirt/tunic… Yes.. tear resistance… ask any expert on fabric and its resistance.. that’s it NO FRONT.. NO BACK..
Activate/Actuate/stimulate/motivate/animate/energize dāl bā rā (د ب ر)
There are a lot of verses that talk about reflecting/pondering/thinking/exploring but this root dāl bā rā (د ب ر) is different from that category, and fortunately, I realized before it is too late for me to present my understanding here.. as you can see one of the verses I have translated the dāl bā rā (د ب ر) as reflect since I never thought it is different as it talks about Al Quran like ‘reflect Al Quran/yathadabbaruna Al Quran’ … So, why should I think of something else for the root, so I complied, but unfortunately I didn’t verify and resulted in error.. but Allah kept pressing me that this verse is not about reflection/pondering.. Yousuf's verses as I presented above led me to discern what Yathadabbarun is.. This root has nothing other than as I presented above.. i.e. Activate/Actuate/stimulate/motivate/animate/energize dāl bā rā (د ب ر)
325 “He actuates/stimulates (Yudabbiru) affairs from the heaven into the earth; …..”
7423 “Then he actuated/animated (adbara) and conceited/bragged.”
2368 “So do they not actuate of the utterance, or has there come to them that not rendering to their fathers of the ancients?
645 “So disconnected the actuation of the people of those who strayed ….”
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This topic is not meant by me for debate but for my understanding of the core of the message.
Nothing to debate; you and Emre are spamming and hijacking the forum. You never admit errors, jump topics, post disjointed thoughts with poor grammar, add little value, and avoid answering questions, making the site absurd. It’s clear why valuable posters have left, and soon everyone else will too, leaving the site to you.
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I recently discussed this verse in the forum and thought it was useful to place it under this topic..
3337 "..... .....So, when concluded/ended in redundancy (zaid) from her desirousness (wathar), We bonded/attached her to you (singular) ........ ...."
To further clarify, if one has a desire/interest in anyone who is about to get divorced, you can propose/demand their wives.... But they should be within the allowed list.. For example, if your cousin is about to divorce her wife, your brother is about to divorce her wife your adopted son is about to get divorced from her wife, or your friend is about to get divorced from her wife, your adopted brother is about to get divorced from her wife or your stepbrother is about to get divorced from her wife, etc., you can 'propose/demand their wives' without having to feel any discomfort if you are interested in them... But marry her once he ended from her desirousness... i.e. legally divorced..
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531-18 “By the constellation when inclined; not strayed your inhabitant and not hoodwinked. And not he asserted from the inclination; that it is except, an inspiration, inspired; distinguished to him by the clutch of firmness, as an owner of encountering, so he contacted.”
“It was of the highest of the standpoints (ufuk). Then he narrowed and coaxed (fatadalla); So became indicative (qab) of unanimity (qawsain) or even narrower. Then he inspired into His dependent (ibadi), what he inspired. Not belied the instinct (alfuwud) that it noticed/saw. So do you dispute him over what he saw? And had already seen him of an extended descent, surrounding of Jujube (sidra) of the deciduous (almuntaha); in a vicinity of the betaking (al mawa) garden, when drops/falls the Jujube that drops. Not baffled by the perception and not transgressed. He had seen from the biggest of signs of his Lord.”This is not ascending to the sky… This is about descending to where Mohamed lived where Jujube trees were found during a time of falls in a garden where people used to betake.. But this took place at night …
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Below verse will surprise you... it did surprise me when I realized it..
2252 “And not (wa'ma) We sent before you of a Messenger (Rasul) except (wa'la) a Luminary (Nabi) …….”
All Luminaries (Nabi) are Rasuls (messengers) in Al Quran... They are not different.. there is no Rasool alone or Nabi alone.. if one is a Nabi then he is definitely a Rasul.. if one is Rasul then he is a nabi.. Allah has chosen all Messengers from Luminaries of the community... But being a Luminary and being a Messenger is different.. I hope you get it.. A luminary is placed with Message then he is a Messenger and at other times he is just a Luminary..
I am sorry to say those who still hold the faith or opinion that the late Dr. Rashad Kalifa was a Messenger of Allah is indeed an assumption... I don't blame RK.. He could have been a good person but in my opinion, he was provoked ... It can happen to anyone when he feels there is something of connection specific to him and his Lord.. Indeed he opened up chapter 9.. It was Allah's plan.. But he was not a messenger.. Everyone who discovers something no one ever has discovered from Al Quran is not a Messenger per se.. But it is Allah's will to disclose... Unfortunately, he was deceived.. suppose if I discover something that no one in the world has ever discovered from the Quran, it doesn't mean I become a Messenger.. That's ridiculous... The message of Allah is complete.. So, it is simple no messengers.. but Allah will show his signs and observations and discoveries as wills.. so claiming that one is a messenger is selfish..
In my personal opinion, RK would have realized of late and was about to disclose that he was not a messenger but before that, their own people most probably would have murdered to keep alive their mission.. RK was not a Nabi so he can never be a Rasool.. so simple as that.. but never discard facts.. facts are facts..
I know i am hurting you people who are inclined and thinking he was a messenger.. but face the challenge and find the truth..Unfortunately, for ages this verse 2252 was translated ridiculously wrong which has basic Arabic in the verse.. phrase 'WaMa' = And not .... WaLa = But Not i.e. Except
look below what nonsensical translation they presented to us..
2252 And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet ...
From where did they get this phrase 'Messenger or Prophet' for WaMA and WaLa? That's hilarious.. Mocking the language of Arabic..
وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا مِن قَبْلِكَ مِن رَّسُولٍۢ وَلَا نَبِىٍّ -
if the verse started 'la' instead of 'wama' then it can mean "Not We sent any Rasool nor Nabi" لَا أَرْسَلْنَا مِن قَبْلِكَ مِن رَّسُولٍۢ وَلَا نَبِىٍّ
2112 And no (la) fear will there be concerning them, nor (wala) will they grieve. (sahih int'l)
see the below example as well
144 (wama) And We did not send any messenger (illa)except in the language of his people ..... (sahih int'l)
that's correct..
I think the confusion arose for all translators in 2252 because it has 'Wama' and 'Wala' and 'Illa' .. so they made wala as 'or' but story is different in the verse..
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Since you admitted this thread is not to debate/discuss your posts you are advised to do your posting in a blog for your "translations".
You can then provide a link to the blog here one time. If people want to read it they can follow your blog.
It does feel like spam now. Spamming is not allowed on the forum. This is an informal warning. Future posts may be deleted without notice.
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Since you admitted this thread is not to debate/discuss your posts you are advised to do your posting in a blog for your "translations".
You can then provide a link to the blog here one time. If people want to read it they can follow your blog.
It does feel like spam now. Spamming is not allowed on the forum. This is an informal warning. Future posts may be deleted without notice.
Okay let them debate as much as they want... Is that okay as a proposal to sooth you..? But as a moderator ensure they keep to the point.. fine?
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dāl bā bā (د ب ب) = Perishable/expire/perish/ruin/wither/perished/perished one/expired/depart/withered/vulnerable…
ṭā yā rā (ط ي ر)Thair – fragments and scattered
638 “And not any perished (dabba) through the earth but not fragments scattered/dispersed with its sacrum wings (bijanahaiihi); save communities like you."
Sacrum bones are like wings and scientifically they call wings also and place coccyx
The two projections at the sides of the sacrum coccyx are called the alae (wings),
Why sacrum wings? Yes.. that’s the bone of the human anatomies that last for ages and then perhaps decomposes..1649 “And to Allah acknowledges whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth from perishables (dabba), and the controllers (malaika), and they are not arrogant.”
2782 And when the utterance became incumbent upon them, We extract for them a perished one from the earth (dabba min al ardh) communicating to them, that the mankind was, of Our verses, not convinced.”
Bring your best translations so that I can also compare and see... welcome.. let's debate honest and faithful people and have no time with spammers.. I am ready ... Are you ready? yes
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You will have to address points made, admit errors etc but inevitably you will be accused of not addressing some etc. Also moderating who keeps to what point etc is more work.
Thus its easier and less spam-like to create your own blog, it's free, e.g.
https//wordpress.com/create-blog/
https//www.blogger.com/dashboard/readingYou can periodically post updates to this thread, e.g. once a month. If people wish to read your blog they can. This is most simple.
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3414 So in time We concluded upon him the death, not publicized concerning his death save a perishable (dabba) of the Earth was defaming (thakulu) his prolonged life (minsathuhu). So, in time, became separated (thabayyanath) the Jin being, that if they were discerning the deepness/profundity, not they would have remained in the shameful of the humiliation.”
but kept Nabi Sulaiman's death was unknown to others … someone aware of his death, most probably from his family members started defaming his prolonged life for whatever unexplained reasons thus exposing he was no more… Then Jin being came to know and felt betrayed and separated themselves and wished they discerned the deepness/profundity (ghaib) so that they would not have gone through shameful humiliation..
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Nothing to debate; you and Emre are spamming and hijacking the forum. You never admit errors, jump topics, post disjointed thoughts with poor grammar, add little value, and avoid answering questions, making the site absurd. It’s clear why valuable posters have left, and soon everyone else will too, leaving the site to you.
Peace Bajram Hoxhaj
Lol you nailed it brother, those two brothers can put me to sleep with the constant "I'm right
no matter what you think" long winded dialogs. It is their right to do so of course, but authoritative
dogma is not interesting and not worth responding to. so sad ( Thanks brother Wakas for your
intervention. No offense intended bro jkhan and bro Emre.God bless
peace
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my dear fellow faithful people who depend on translations.... if you accept a translation out of thousands available it means you have given thought to it or you are biased to it.. Allah's genuine utterance is available in Arabic but, do you approach it? That's my question.. I have approached it and am approaching daily.. So i share... if you disagree i have no issue but state your comment and disagree.. So i would present why your disagreement is wrong ... if your disagreement is right i surrender..
I have no issues.. if not this forum i can always share in twitter or facebook or in a blog or discord.. since I am used to this forum i share.. Did i compel you all or did i sound authoritative.. The problem is those who don't have words against what I translate interfere.. Just debate with logic, So I am ready to expose with the guidance of Allah how weak those who oppose Allah's verses..You won't find anywhere these pure translations.. Just reflect if you are honest.. that's all I have to state..
Did anyone who debate in this forum state that he would surrender to the truth in public, I state I will surrender to the truth if you speak it through Al Quran.. And I don't notice anyone surrender in this forum even how fragile and mocking their statements were... Haven't you seen that I was almost in the brink of accepting when I first heard of Rashad Khalifa as messenger of covenant and didn't I surrender to the truth.. I am honest when guidance is clear...i am not arrogant in heart
I will in sha Allah continue as long as Allah permits me to do so.. just reflect...that's all I say..' just reflect' .. it's not compelling..
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4829 Muhammad, Messenger of Allah; and those who along him are distressed (ashda) upon (ala) the rejectors; calm (ruhma)between them. ….”
The above verse does not state that Messenger. Mohamed and those with him are SEVERE or STRONG or FIRM against disbelievers while they are MERCIFUL… NO severe nor merciful..
Ashda = distressed in the verse alone... here not Severe
Ruhma = calm/comforting in the verse alone.. here not merciful
It’s distressing for them to see the rejectors, i.e. they feel for them and their hearts wish they believe.. After all, they are people just misguided… if I present an analogy.. if your daughter got married and leaves your house to another, It distresses you mentally.. it’s not talking about aggressors of rejectors but rejectors in general..
While with faithful ones they each other solacing and so calm.. -
5332 “Those who distance/detach (yajthanibu) magnitude (kabeer) of the failures/losses (alithzm) and the immodesties (alfawahish) except the proceeded/advanced (allamam) that your Lord is vast of the Graces (maghfirath). He is well discerning (a’a’lam) of you when He resurrected/raised you from the Earth and while you are more enthusiastic/passionate (ajinna) concerning the concealments/secrets (buthun) of your cores (Ummahathikum). So, do not apply purity to yourselves. He is well discerning of who conscientized."
Majnun in Quran is not madness/crazy but majnun = very ardent/passionate.. That’s why they called Mohamed as majnun.. Here word ‘Ajinna’ is not Fetus but passionate..
for example ... 3736'They were saying that 'are we to leave our gods for a passionate/ardent (majnun) poet'? Not only this verse but every verse where majnun appears..
Fahisha is not immorality but it is rightly immodesty/indecency
Word ‘allamam’ is not as they translated ‘little faults’.. that’s laughable.. But it is proceed/advance.. Precede has another word in Al Quran qāf dāl mīm (ق د م)..
In a nutshell, Allah informs us that we have made errors in life so we are not pure from the beginning…So distance/detach from big level of failures and indecencies save what is advanced before..
There is no reason to highlight being in the fetus of your mother and immediately state 'Don’t apply purity to yourselves' as if fetus is impure.. Don’t apply purity because you/we never were pure but reformed.. Allah creates fetus and no to call it impure.. But we our selves were impure
When someone is reformed he shows in society as passionate and may conceal his core failures and immodesties as if he was pure from the beginning while addressing others who are trying to reform.. No one was pure.. So, do not apply purity to yourselves. That's the key of the verse.. that’s it..
reflect my fellow faithful ones.. any critics pls bring logically within Quran..for your reference below is the same verse of Sahih international translation
5332 Those who avoid the major sins and immoralities, only slight ones. Indeed, your Lord is vast in forgiveness. He was most knowing of you when He produced you from the earth and when you were fetuses in the wombs of your mothers. So do not claim yourselves to be pure; He is most knowing of who fears Him.
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So when i translate arabic word MAJNUN as Passionate/ardent/enthusiastic you think i am a spammer.. So i want to divert you people from the fact...
Use your wits, my dear people who are honest and using intellect..
You are very fortunate you are hearing these manifest elucidations... I can be silent if I want God willing then Allah only knows who would disclose these facts to you... Perhaps a massive Mercy of Allah you are discarding by calling these as spammers or authoritative with sheer approach without any evidence..
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ṣād ḥā fā (ص ح ف) = flat plates (like all ancient people write on metal plates or wood plates having a spiral on top or side)
8110 “When the plates (alsuhuf) are swarmed (Nushirath).
Always swarm does take place in thick clusters.. as a thick body of movement.. This is referring to the Plates of the Earth and their swarming.. We know Earth has plates and their movement causes massive earthquakes.. Scientifically they call Plate swarm..
8111 “And when the Sky is stripped off.”
The sky is one and it consists of layers so it becomes skies or is formed of layers and they will be stripped off..
8112 “And when the Terror (Al Jahannam) is infuriated/maddened.”
8113 “And when the exuberance (aljanna) is accessed.”
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6611” And Allah has cited an example to those who professed; wife of Pharaoh, when she said, "My Lord, configure for me in surrounding of You an entertainment (bayth) in exuberance/indulgence (Aljanna) and deliver me from Pharaoh and his deeds and deliver me from the people, the strayed."
The wife of Pharoh did not ask Allah to build a physical house in the Garden.. But she asked what the above verse states.. Al Al Janna is mostly in Al Quran is Exuberance/indulgence.. Why should the wife of Pharoh ask Allah to build for her a house? Is that the greatest request? would a house bring for her indulgence? Or was she living in a poor hut lifetime.. Come on she was the wife of the Leader of the greatest civilization… all amenities were there.. No happiness though.. There is potential behind her request.. She must have spent a desperate life in the presence of Pharoh being a faithful one hiding without any entertainment as family or love but only witnessing the curse of pharoh and his people’s actions.. While she was incredibly a powerful faithful person… She couldn’t enjoy her life with pharoh looking at what Pharoh doing and she had no power to resist either..
Bayth could be even atmosphere filled with entertainment..
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hamza mīm mīm (أ م م) = foundation/proposition/found/core/center/community /mother etc
16120 “That, Abraheem had (kana) a community (ummath), constant/consistent (kanithan) to Allah of sincerity, and it was not from the associators.”
2124 “…….Said; that I will assign you to mankind as a foundation/proposition (Imam). …..”
Ibrahim was not a community but he had a community..
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Peace jkhan.
Spamming does not benefit anyone. Hopefully all the brothers and sisters here are genuine and are trying to learn, share and converse with each other. I do not doubt your sincerity like I trust the majority in this forum and give everyone the benefit of the doubt.
We should treat everyone the same of course.
I trust the forum s admin to sort it according to the rules we all sign up to.I agree with the notion that a forum is a platform for that. i.e to learn,share views and discuss/debate amicably with each other.
What some are saying here, the forum means people can take part in the threads as long as we abide by the forum rules and stay approx on the topic.
If one wants to share their views only , there are other ways to do it and provide a link,and by providing a link on a thread it must also allow the discussions and normal questions/debates from forum members to take place/participate/learn/constructive criticism/...etc.
As far as I know opening a thread is an invitation to discussion/debate/opinions...for learning together.
For example ,let me quote you first
"So when i translate arabic word MAJNUN as Passionate/ardent/enthusiastic you think i am a spammer.. So i want to divert you people from the fact..."No you are not spamming ,but it needs some response.
I do not agree with your translation of "Majnun" . The words Passionate/Ardent and Enthusiastic are not specific enough to give a good or bad trait for the person. They can be used for both good and bad traits.
The word "Majnun" in the verse you are translating is used as a bad trait . The word throughout Qoran is used to convey someone "crazy/possessed/weird ways/...i.e a negative trait to undermine/make the person bad/disliked/wary of/to be avoided/opposed ... Falsely accusing a person as "Majnun" means he is being smeared /to be wary of like our modern term "terrorist" for example.So there are other words that can be specific in translating "Mjnun" like crazy/mad/weird..etc.
GOD bless you brother.
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Peace All..
Since I have been given notice and warning not to publish any of my translations under this topic and violating would reault in deleting all threads..So I leave the forum and I'm not gonna post... But if anyone wants to contact me can reach in my discord channel in its baby stage..
https//discord.gg/nekdkeSYMay Allah guide you all...
If in future if I have a blog I will let you know through my discord only...
So bye guys.. It's the will of Allah perhaps..
