MANIFESTO for Islamic Reform
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If a system of democracy is advocated in which the people of such a democracy can change their laws to other than found in 'al quran' then this system by default is unlikely to be recommended in 'al quran'.
In this respect, democracy (rule of majority) contains a fatal flaw.
Wakas
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SaLaM KGB and Wakas
KGB
This is something which can be achieved in all the muslim world if you have sincere honest leaders.
United Arab Emirates did it and it did it better than any arab country.
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*Salutes the flag of UAE cry
Wakas
Right now, the scenario presented to mquran is that there is already a ummah of quran following believers. Problem is, how do we chooose a leader? Im still waiting for him to answer this step by step. Just so i can understand.
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Right now, the scenario presented to mquran is that there is already a ummah of quran following believers. Problem is, how do we chooose a leader? Im still waiting for him to answer this step by step. Just so i can understand.
Where did I say this please ? This goes against my understanding of even the word ummah. You are mistaken, Jaxal.
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SaLaM mquran
Nooo IM asking to YOU. I AM saying that there is a large ummah who follows Quran and God. But they are leaderless. Now how will they chooose a leader. Im asking you to explain to me briefly step by step how a leader will be chosen. I hope you understand.
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Nooo IM asking to YOU. I AM saying that there is a large ummah who follows Quran and God. But they are leaderless. Now how will they chooose a leader. Im asking you to explain to me briefly step by step how a leader will be chosen. I hope you understand
Where is this umma of yours ? An umma of believers are uppermost in the land (4/141). I dont see any believers anywhere ?
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Ok, it doesn't start with an 'umma of believers'. It starts with one man, the messenger.
the messenger calls people to serve Allah. He then fulfils the role of the messenger (3/164) and (57/9) and also leads them in engagement in the world.
From here, the umma is formed.
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SaLaM mquran
Interesting. Ok, what if, this messenger was teaching something that went against your belief. You say RK was teaching sunnism - hadiths, but what if that is the right way? Would you beleive he is the leader?
( i have no associationg with RK or his teaching, im just using him as a reference )
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Interesting. Ok, what if, this messenger was teaching something that went against your belief. You say RK was teaching sunnism - hadiths, but what if that is the right way? Would you beleive he is the leader?
If a messenger came to me and preached what messengers before preached, yes I would. I've not met anyone to that effect at all. Remember that the messenger did TILAWAATUL KITAB (practice of the book) and not just bla bla'ed about it.
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Lollllllll . Ok but i asked you, say a messenger comes to you and preaches that Kabbah IS the place where God asked us to make pilgrimage and that it IS in Makkah as we know it today. Would you beleive him and accept him as your leader?
He'd have to do better than you at presenting evidence..Lolllll (since you think this is a laughing matter).
