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Gods messenger speaks out on rejection

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    anthonywallace
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    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8jgWqgQFwk

    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S_fNzxgzuI

    Rejection - part 1

    1. A .Example

    1418 The example of those who reject their Lord is that their works are like ashes, on which the wind blows strongly on a stormy day, they cannot get anything of what they earned. Such is the farthest misguidance

    b. Objectives

    2945 Recite what is inspired to you of the Scripture, and hold the communion, for the communion prohibits evil and vice; but certainly the remembrance of God is the greatest. God knows everything you do.

    c. Information

    2272 And if Our clear revelations are recited to them, you see hatred in the faces of those who have rejected. They are nearly close to attacking those who are reciting to them Our revelations! Say "Shall I inform you of what is worse than this? The Fire, which God has promised to those who have rejected. What a miserable destiny!"

    d. support us

    18103 Say "Shall we inform you of the greatest losers?"

    18104 "Those whose efforts in the worldly life were wasted while they thought they were doing good!"

    e. Help is here

    10108 Say "O people, the truth has come to you from your Lord, so whosoever is guided is being guided for himself, and whosoever is misguided will remain so, and I am not a caretaker over you."

    f. Invitation

    9120 It is not advisable for the city dwellers and those around them of the Nomads that they should lag behind after God's messenger, nor should they yearn for themselves above him. That is because any thirst that will come to them, or fatigue, or hunger in the cause of God, or any step that they take which will annoy the rejecters, or any gain they have over any enemy; it will be recorded as a good deed for them. God does not waste the reward of the good doers. 9121 And anything small or large they spend, or any valley they cross, it will be recorded for them. God will recompense them with the best of what they did.

    g. Job

    611 Say "Roam the Earth, then see what the punishment of the rejecters was!"

    h. Appreciation

    3147 And they did not say except "Our Lord, forgive us our sins and our shortcomings in our responsibility, and make firm our foothold, and grant us victory over the rejecting people." 3148 So God gave them the reward of this world and the best reward of the Hereafter; and God loves the good doers.

    i. Public praise

    61 Praise be to God who created the heavens and the Earth, and Who made darkness and light; yet those who have rejected their Lord continue to deviate.

    j. Constructive critisism

    1327 And those who have rejected say "If only a sign were sent down to him from his Lord!" Say "God misguides whom He wishes and guides to Him whoever is repenting."

    k. Question

    4152 Say "Do you see if this was from God and then you rejected it? Who is further astray than those who are in opposition?"

    l. Respect

    2557 Say "I do not ask you for a wage; but for whoever chooses to make a path to his Lord."

    m. Responsibility

    484 So fight in the cause of God; you are not responsible except for yourself. And enjoin the believers "Perhaps God will put a stop to the might of those who disbelieved." And God is far Mightier and far more Punishing.

    n. Leading others, managing yourself

    244 Do you order the people to do good, but forget yourselves, while you are reciting the Scripture? Do you not understand?

    o. Patience

    7624 So be patient to the judgment of your Lord, and do not obey from them any sinner or rejecter.

    Part 2

    1. Objectives

    2945 Recite what is inspired to you of the Scripture, and hold the communion, for the communion prohibits evil and vice; but certainly the remembrance of God is the greatest. God knows everything you do.

    1. Resolution

    4734 Surely, those who rejected and repelled from the path of God, then they died while still rejecting, God will never forgive them. 4735 Therefore, do not be weak and ask for peace, for you are on a higher moral ground, and God is with you. And He will not waste your efforts.

    1. Inspiration

    416 Say "I am no more than a human being like you. It is inspired to me that your god is One god, therefore you shall be upright towards Him and seek His forgiveness. And woe to those who set up partners."

    1. Order

    729 Say "My Lord orders justice, and that you be devoted at every temple, and that you call on Him, while being faithful to Him in the system; as He initiated you, so you will return."

    1. Change/ Rebellion

    1343 And those who reject say "You are not a messenger." Say "God is sufficient as a witness between me and you, the One who has the knowledge of the Scripture."

    343 And those who rejected said "The Hour will not come upon us!" Say "Yes, by my Lord, it will come to you." He is the Knower of the unseen, not even an atom's weight or less than that or greater can be hidden from Him, be it in the heavens or the Earth. All are in a clear record.

    1. love

    554 O you who believe, whoever from among you turns away from His system, then God will bring a people whom He loves and they love Him; humble towards the believers, proud towards the rejecters; they strive in the cause of God and do not fear to be blamed by those who blame. This is God's grace, He bestows it upon whom He wills; God is Encompassing, Knowledgeable.

    1. Wisdom

    3112 And We had given Luqmaan the wisdom "You shall be thankful to God, and whoever is thankful is being thankful for his own good. As for whosoever rejects, then God is Rich, Praiseworthy."

    1. Money

    310 As for those who rejected, neither their money nor their children will avail them anything from God. They are the fuel for the Fire.

    1. Testimony- One God

    1330 And as such, We have sent you to a nation as other nations that have come before, so that you may recite to them that which has been inspired to you; while they are still rejecting the Almighty. Say "He is my Lord, there is no god but He, in Him I place my trust and to Him is my repentance."

    1. Affirmation

    3865 Say "I am but a warner; and there is no god besides God, the One, the Supreme." 3866 "The Lord of the heavens and the Earth, and everything between them; the Noble, the Forgiving."

    4136 O you who believe; believe in God and His messenger, and the Scripture which was sent down to His messenger, and the Scripture that was sent before. And whoever rejects God, and His angels, and His Scriptures, and His messengers, and the Last Day; then he has strayed a far straying.

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    313 There was a sign for you in the two groups that met. One was fighting in the cause of God, and the other was rejecting. They thus saw them as twice their number with their eyes. And God supports with His victory whom He wills. In this is a lesson for those with vision.

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      IronSky
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      Peace to all,

      I liked your videos Anthony, you seem to have alot of verse memorized, but I noticed that you called your self a messenger a few times, you dont claim to be a messenger of God do you, if I understood you wrong then please forgive me for asking, im not trying to cause a dispute with you, im just asking cause I noticed it a few times.

      Kurt

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        peace be upon you,

        yes, i am gods messenger to you all. The noble, the supreme.

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          Elke
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          The noble, the supreme refers to whom exactly ?

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            anthonywallace
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            God. My Lord and your Lord. The One. The Lord of the heavens and the Earth and everything in between them.

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              arnoldyasin
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              Does our dear messenger speak Arabic or does he needed a translation?

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                anthonywallace
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                No I don't speack Arabic.

                Do u speack Arabic?

                And God guides whomever He wishes, and He misgudes whomever He wishes...

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                  arnoldyasin
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                  No I don't speack Arabic.

                  Do u speack Arabic?

                  And God guides whomever He wishes, and He misgudes whomever He wishes...

                  I study Arabic at the university.

                  How can you be a messenger while you don't even know a translation of a word is correct or not? And does Yasha means will or causation?

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                    anthonywallace
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                    Didnt I say that God guides whoever He wishes,

                    He sends messengers to the people in the language they speack so that they may clarify for them...

                    And none know the correct meanings of the words except those who have been given knowledge, wheather u speak arabic or not... there is no bypass to Gods way...

                    And i know how to study the words...

                    And the truth has come from your Lord...I think it is more important to study Quran than to study Arabic...or to study both...

                    I dont know what " yasha" mean...

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                      peace be upon you,

                      yes, i am gods messenger to you all. The noble, the supreme.

                      How and when did u realise that you are a messenger! What message you have received so far and who delivered it to you? Have you been taking any medication in last two years? Any family history of Psychosis?

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                        Does our dear messenger speak Arabic or does he needed a translation?

                        We shouldn't make fun of any messenger! Thats haram...

                        I study Arabic at the university.

                        How can you be a messenger while you don't even know a translation of a word is correct or not? And does Yasha means will or causation?

                        He didn't say he's a professor, just said he is a messenger! No matter wherever you study, even if you know the meaning of yasha still you cannot be a messenger!

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                          anthonywallace
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                          How and when did u realise that you are a messenger! What message you have received so far and who delivered it to you? Have you been taking any medication in last two years? Any family history of Psychosis?

                          God knows that I was sent to you...

                          God is suffeciant as a witness between me and you...

                          I deliver to you my Lords messages...

                          "God misguides whom He wishes and guides to Him whoever is repenting."

                          I am no more than a human being like you. It is inspired to me that your god is One god, therefore you shall be upright towards Him and seek His forgiveness. And woe to those who set up partners."

                          Why u ask if I been takin meds and my family history???

                          Why you ask if I been takin meds and family history of Psychosis?

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                            Peace to all,

                            Dear brother Anthony, please accept that your most likely not God messenger to us, you seem a decent fellow with good intentions, but you are not teaching us anything we dont already know, why dont you just start engaging in discussions here on the forum with the members, maybe you can help teach some, maybe others can help teach you, but it is only God that guides us bro, please dont be offended but I do not think your a messenger.

                            Kurt

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                              God knows that I was sent to you...

                              God is suffeciant as a witness between me and you...

                              I deliver to you my Lords messages...

                              "God misguides whom He wishes and guides to Him whoever is repenting."

                              I am no more than a human being like you. It is inspired to me that your god is One god, therefore you shall be upright towards Him and seek His forgiveness. And woe to those who set up partners."

                              Why u ask if I been takin meds and my family history???

                              Why you ask if I been takin meds and family history of Psychosis?

                              You have not answered any of my questions thus you are not a messenger yet. Please ask your god from next time before you proclaim anything.

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                                TAJ
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                                I did not know how much I missed this forum until I read this thread.. Welcome Anthonywallace welcome

                                I think the forum lacks a Messengers section.
                                Can I suggest that we have one, plz?

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                                  God is suffecient as a witness between me and you, the One who has the knowledge of the Scripture...

                                  Should I be stoned for claimin to be a messenger of God??? Am I wrong??? Please enlighten me then...

                                  How can anyone ask the Lord to save them if they never heard of him? And how can they hear unless someone tells them? And how can someone tell them without bein sent by the Lord?

                                  The guidance is Gods guidance,

                                  Your friend is not crazy or mad ( phyco). Thats the same thing they said about those messengers before...they also denied them too...and didnt believe in them...and they also said that their hearts were hardened to what the messengers were inviting them to...

                                  Muhammad is the messenger of God... we believe in what was sent down to Muhammad...

                                  I was born with a message to deliver to the people... And the revelations that I have experianced has been intence... And i now accept that i am a spiritual messenger regardless who believe me or not... mabey not to you all, but to my people and others besides them...to warn them that never recieved a warner before me and to take my people out of darkness into the light by their Lords leave...and that I recite the Quran...and to preach...

                                  Im hear to learn too... I know that God has inspired other men of the rememberance who can teach me and authentiacte some of the things my Lord has given me of the Scripture and the wisdom... I have learned alot from free-minds...

                                  Peace,

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                                    I did not know how much I missed this forum until I read this thread.. Welcome Anthonywallace welcome

                                    I think the forum lacks a Messengers section.
                                    Can I suggest that we have one, plz?

                                    Thanks for the welcome,

                                    Peace...

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                                      First you said

                                      yes, i am gods messenger to you all. The noble, the supreme.

                                      And now

                                      I was born with a message to deliver to the people... And the revelations that I have experianced has been intence... And i now accept that i am a spiritual messenger regardless who believe me or not... mabey not to you all, but to my people and others besides them...

                                      now how can we believe that you are not

                                      Your friend is not crazy or mad ( phyco).

                                      Should I be stoned for claimin to be a messenger of God???

                                      No, first you should visit a psychiatrist asap.

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                                        You have not answered any of my questions thus you are not a messenger yet. Please ask your god from next time before you proclaim anything.

                                        He may be sent by a little bronze god standing in a niche above the altar

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                                          AlFajr
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                                          Peace to all,

                                          3223 And We have given Moses the Scripture. So do not be in any doubt about meeting Him. And We made it a guide for the Children of Israel.
                                          3224 And We made from among them leaders who guided in accordance with Our command, for they were patient and had certainty regarding Our revelations.

                                          Anthony are you sure you have a revelation from God? Just having knowledge and certainty of the Quran does not make you a messenger. As you can see the Children of Israel had leaders who guided in accordance to the Scripture of Moses and they were not messengers.

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