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This forum really a free-minds forum, so I'm not shocked again if I see Taoism practicer in here yes

I'll post my conclusions in appropriate sections brother , there are already many conclusions in the thread , i'll try to summarize and post it an a Clair demonstration , some of my conclusions are based on the primary study , understanding or hints of some brother here and elsewhere , so the objective is get to a one common accurate understanding and avoid confusions . Your enthusiasm in seeking the accurate understanding is playing a major role here brother , i also share the same view as yours concerning the many confusion threads and discussions , and that in my opinion is due to the methodology and the rules of posting and debating in the forum . Thank you so very much for your kind answer. Looking forward to clear conclusions. God bless

Salam , A'bud Allah , translated to English as worship Allah is not the correct clear translation , also the book known as Tafasser Al-Qura'n/ explanation of the Quran used and explain this word wrongly to the people , they mostly explain and read the imperative verb " A'bud " as worship mean pray , mean bow down and prostrate and glorify Allah and call upon him , while they are only a part from the whole meaning of " A'bud " The Quran distinguish clearly between the verbs bow down/ Ar'ka , prostrate/ As'jud and the verb A'bud . 22 - 77 22 - 77 O you who have believed, bow and prostrate and A'bud your Rabb and do good - that you may succeed. bow down is fallen down into your knee and not bowing in 90 degree angle while you are still standing up , to read the movement of " Ar'ka " read the following 38 - 24 38 -24 said, "He has certainly wronged you in demanding your ewe to his ewes. And indeed, many associates oppress one another, except for those who believe and do righteous deeds - and few are they." And Dwd became certain that We had tried him, and he asked forgiveness of his Rabb and fell down bowing and turned in repentance . 16 - 26 16 - 26 Those before them had already plotted, but Allah came at their building from the foundations, so the roof fell upon them from above them, and the punishment came to them from where they did not perceive. does the roof moved down for 90 degree or does he fell down to the ground , certinly "fell /kharra " mean fallout into the ground , so when Dwd fell down bowing he fallout into the ground into his knee , he did not do the 90 degree inclination and then stand up he fell down straight away. prostrate/ As'jud is the inclination of the upper body from up to down , the movement of "Prostrates/ S'jud " can be done after bowing down into your knee or while standing up 2 - 58 2 - 58 And when We said, "Enter this city and eat from it wherever you will in abundance, and enter the gate ( while you are) prostrating and say, 'Relieve us of our burdens.' We will forgive your sins for you, and We will increase the doers of good ." how come they enter the gate while prostrating , according to the Tafasser book explanation they should enter while they are rubbing their forehead with the ground , entering a gate while you are prostrating would simply mean inclining you upper body down , its the same movement known wrongly as "Bowing R'ka " same as we saw previously about "Bowing down / Rukkaa " in many verses the word "Prostrating / S'jada " come after the movement of "fell /kharra " , witch mean that the the imperative verb prostrate/ As'jud mean fallout into the ground , and then incline the upper body down to the ground , the quran explain this movement clearly by the following description 16 - 48 16 - 48 Have they not observed all things that Allah hath created, how their shadows incline to the right and to the left, making prostration unto Allah, and they are lowly? The movement of prostration is the same as the movement of the shadow of an abject . 17 - 107 17 - 107 Say, "Believe in it or do not believe. Indeed, those who were given knowledge before it - when it is recited upon them, they fall to their chins in prostration So simply fall to their chins in prostrating mean inclining to the angle where the chin is down to the ground , there is no mentioning that t(he forehead should touch the ground , the verse 48 - 29 was wrongly explained 48 - 29 Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating , seeking bounty from Allah and pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Taourat. And their description in the Anjil is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward. There is diffrence between " on / fi " and "Above /Aala " , " on / fi " something mean withing , inside through etc , "Above /Aala " mean on the top of , something you can see and touche above something you can see and touch . the expression find in verse 48 - 29 Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration is from the first meaning , the mark that are on their faces from prostration is on all the face as you can remark not a black dot in the forehead , if the meaning was about signaling a dot mark in the forehead the Quran would use the word "Above /Aala " instead of " on / fi " , so simply the mark that is on the face as a trace from prostration is due to the long concentration / fixation while the believers are in state of "prostration/ Al-sujud" 39 - 9 39 - 9 Is one who is "Qanet / fixed" during periods of the night, prostrating and standing , fearing the Hereafter and hoping for the mercy of his Lord, ? Say, "Are those who know equal to those who do not know?" Only they will remember people of understanding. so the mark on the faces is due to the trace caused by long period where the believers are fixed / concentrated while prostrating and is not due to the forehead touching the ground. I highly signal that both action / movement bow down and prostrate/ As'jud has no value or meaning without the reasoning and the action of the heart / , when the believers used to prostrate when they heard the verses of the Quran its because their heart repent to it its a sign movement of submitting to Allah , they acknowledge and uphold the meaning and they accepted it upon them wither as a information about the unseen or as structures or command decreed-ed above them , so the point is that bow down and prostrate/ As'jud are not a blind movement and this is why there is no counting while doing them as counting is simply against and disturbing the concept of "Fixed state / Al-Qonout " and "concentration / Al-Khouchoa? " both concept are recommended to be achieved . So what does A'bud stand for First i would say that there is no English verb to correctly translate the verb A'bud to it , the close translation would be To serve by following the recommended instructions , A'bud Allah simply mean serve Allah by following and upholding what he has sent down to you , this is clearly understood from the verse 36 - 60/61 Did I not charge you, O ye sons of Adam, that ye Serve/Follow not the Chaitan ( Satan / devil )- Lo! he is your clear enemy - And that you Serve Me / Follow Me? This is a straight path the verse asked the believers to A'bud Allah / Serve/Follow Allah and it show them how by saying This is a straight path . What the "this is" in 36-61 is pointing to and what is the straight path , we have to look at the verse 6-153 and 6-126 6-153 6-153 And this is My path, which is straight, so follow it; and do not follow ways, for you will be separated from His way. This has He instructed you that you may become righteous. 6-126 6-126 And this is the path of your Lord, straight. We have detailed the verses for a people who remember. 6-155 6-155 And this is a scripture We have sent it down blessed, so follow it and do right that you may receive mercy. A'bud Allah / Serve/Follow Allah is following his straight path witch is the scripture anyone who is upholding any command ,statement , instruction from the scripture and activating it in the social life or his own life he is about He is Serve/Following Allah / Ya'bud Allah / , from this understanding the command bow down/ Ar'ka , prostrate/ As'jud become only a part from the major command A'bud Allah / Serve/Follow Allah witch include all the commands statements and instructions find in the scripture. This understanding will be much clearer by knowing what we do not to follow/ serve 16 - 36 16 - 36 And verily We have raised in every nation a messenger, (proclaiming) Serve / Follow Allah and shun Al-Taghut ( corrupted political leaders , president , governors , kings , emperors , transgressors , corrupted Constitution , laws , legislation...etc ) . Then some of them (there were) whom Allah guided, and some of them (there were) upon whom error had just hold. Do but travel in the land and see the nature of the consequence for the deniers! 39 - 17 39 - 17 But those who have avoided Taghut ( corrupted political leaders , president , governors , kings , emperors , transgressors , corrupted Constitution , laws , legislation...etc ), lest they serve / follow it, and turned back to Allah - for them are good tidings. So give good tidings to My servants. 4 - 60 4 - 60 Have you not seen those who claim to have believed in what was revealed to you, , and what was revealed before you? They wish to refer legislation to Taghut ( corrupted political leaders , president , governors , kings , emperors , transgressors , corrupted Constitution , laws , legislation...etc ), while they were commanded to reject it; and Chaitan / Satan wishes to lead them far astray. A'bud Allah / Serve/Follow Allah in the contrary recommend rejecting Taghut , mean rejecting serving and following all ( corrupted political leaders , president , governors , kings , emperors , transgressors , corrupted Constitution , corrupted laws , corrupted legislation , corrupted corporations...etc ) so the famous verse 51-56 become clear 51-56 51-56 And I did not create the jinn and Inss ( both are mankind) except to Serve/follow Me. One more major thing to add is that they wrongly associate only mosques with A'bud Allah / Serve/Follow Allah whereas the places where to A'bud Allah / Serve/Follow Allah to be activated are Tribunals , Parliament , Government chambers , states chambers , what is done today in tribunals and parliament used to be done in the past at " Al-masajed / Mosques" where the name of Allah ( proclaiming his authority ) is mentioned , the name of Allah is mentioned doesn't mean reciting his name but it mean that the judgement the rules the instructions the legislation all is to be pronounced under his authority that's mean that only the judgement ,the rules , the laws , the instructions , the legislation that Allah has confirmed in the scripture is to be used under his name( proclaiming his authority ) , and the judgement is announced under Allah's name the believers prostrate . the place where to announce laws , judgement , legislation is the same place where prostration is to be done. there is nothing in the system of Allah called mosque and then tribunal and parliament etc , in today's life you will find in many tribunals in the world the judgement or laws is pronounced under the name of the king of the country or the governor or in the name of the republic etc. so this is the correct understanding of the verse 2114 and 2-114 And who are more unjust than those who prevent the name of Allah ( proclaiming his authority ) from being mentioned in His mosques and strive toward their destruction. It is not for them to enter them except in fear. For them in this world is disgrace, and they will have in the Hereafter a great punishment. 22-40 22-40 those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Rabb is Allah." And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah ( proclaiming his authority ) is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might. Mentioning the name of Allah upon the livestock is simply acknowledging the authorization from Allah to kill the animal , so mentioning Allah's name upon them mean they have the authorization from Allah to kill them as it's not a simple thing at all to kill an animal. 5-4 They ask you, , what has been made lawful for them. Say, "Lawful for you are good foods and what you have trained of hunting animals which you train as Allah has taught you. So eat of what they catch for you, and mention the name of Allah upon it ( proclaiming the authorization from Allah ) , and fear Allah." Indeed, Allah is swift in account. Excellent thread, thank you very much for your contributions.

Another type of "Natural Calamities" a.k.a "God Calamities" (as the terms Natural and God is actually interchangeable in this context) is destruction through invasion and warfare. The Tanakh, Gospel and Quran are in agreement on this one. Example in the Quran.. "And We gave (Clear) Warning to the Children of Israel in the Book, that twice would they do mischief on the earth and be elated with mighty arrogance. When the first of the warnings came to pass, We sent against you Our servants given to terrible warfare They entered the very inmost parts of your homes; and it was a warning (completely) fulfilled. Then did We grant you the Return as against them We gave you increase in resources and sons, and made you the more numerous in man-power. If you did well, you did well for yourselves; if you did evil, (you did it) against yourselves. So when the second of the warnings came to pass, (We permitted your enemies) to disfigure your faces, and to enter your Temple as they had entered it before, and to visit with destruction all that fell into their power. It may be that your Lord may show Mercy unto you; but if ye revert (to your sins), We shall revert (to Our punishments)" Quran 174-8 The Quran cited the 'history' of Israelites as a 'sign' to reflect upon. The first warning are comprehensively recorded in the Tanakh and the "Our servants given to terrible warfare" was the Babylonian invasion lead by Nebucadnezzar, this event is also being recorded comprehensively in the Tanakh. The second warning is being recorded in the Gospel (Jesus's dark prophecy). This time around it was the "Roman Punitive Annihilation of Judea", after failed attempt of rebellion by the Israelites only few decades after Jesus lifetime. Hundred of Thousands Judeans (including women and children) were being massacred and others are sold as slaves. There are hundreds of documentaries citing the details of such event, look it out on the YouTube. This event is being mentioned in the Quran around 500 years later as "point of reflection" for its readers. And now we have comprehensive archive of histories, we should learn from the past events, trying to avoid the mistake made by people of the past. This "destructive event" is not exclusively happened to the Israelites, there are hundreds of destroyed societies and nations, The Quran named few surrounding Arabian tribes such as "The Ad" and "The Thamud", from history we know the destruction story if the Aztecs, the Incans, The Celts, The Romans to name a few and also the "Caliphate". The Caliphate was being destroyed through foreign invasion, this time by The Mongols around 600 years after the Quran. Millions were being massacred in nearly the entire middle east, from Baghdad to Judea to Egypt, including women and children. And as if it wasn't enough only few decades later, another massive killing were being delivered through the Plague of "Black Death". It spread not only in Middle East but to Europe as well and it killed nearly half of the total population in Middle East and Europe at that time (estimated to be around 75 to 100 million death). Perhaps it will be interesting to discuss the "why" such thing happened? What went wrong during the Caliphate era? Why they deserve such punishment? It will be a contextual discussion as the situation today in Middle East is not so great either.. Will there be another total destruction happening in the near future? Salam / Peace

your right beauty always change i wish sometimes i can take my own advice and suck it up but i just want to be happy and love myself and be confident thank you for your respond it kind of made me look at this situation in a different light or point of view

Peace all There is not an animal in the earth, nor a flying creature flying on two wings, but they are peoples like unto you. We have neglected nothing in the Book (of Our decrees). Then unto their Lord they will be gathered. 638 If you believe and really believe that Allah has not neglected anything in the BOOK then think why HE neglected the all important SALAT? Why HE did not describe the details of the SALAT? But do you think that Allah has neglected the SALAT? If you think so then you are mistaken. An inferior reading of the Book will always misguide you. Did Allah not describe the CLEANSING method before the SALAT (WADHU) 56 Did Allah not say how many SALAT in a day 11114 Did Allah not name the TWO SALAT 2458 Did Allah not say that do not approach the SALAT while you are UNCLEAN Dis Allah not say that do not approach SALAT when INTOXICATED. 443 Did Allah not say that you "SAY" in the SALAT. 443 Did Allah not say that seek HELP in the SALAT 245 Did Allah not show you a demonstration of the SALAT by way of ZAKARIYA 339 Did Allah not demonstrate to you the SALAT by way of ZAKARIYA that he sought HELP from ALLAH in his SALAT 339/40/41/41/42 Now think why Allah did not show you the postures of the SALAT. Because physical postures have no importance near Allah and to GLORIFY Allah, SEEK HELP and GUIDANCE from Allah, REPENT, and ASK FORGIVENESS, which are the components of the SALAT, does not require any UPS and DOWNS but what is required is the sincere approach, the thought of Allah in the HEART with the presence of mind. The RUKU, the SUJUD, the TAHIYYA and the SALAM at the end are an invention of the BELIEVERS. When these inventions were ANNEXED to the SALAT only Allah knows. Allah never said " RECITE" but "SAY" in the SALAT. 443 The above is the real SALAT and is according to the Quran and if you feel uncomfortable with this SALAT then follow the man made SALAT. Its your choice. Thanks Salaam 5.6 Yes this is the ablution I do, but does God specifically state that it must be done in that order? Also is it better to miss prayer if travelling than to say it without doindg a proper ablution - I usually put a small amount of water on my face and hands etc from my drinking bottle, as a symbolic gesture. 11114 .....at the two ends of the day and some hours of the night. Beginning of day is dawn and end of day is sunset. Does some hours of the night =anytime in the night from after sunset until dawn? 2458 Fajr prayer - does fajr translate as dawn or morning or the beginning of the day or all of these and thus it is flexible according to the waking time of individuals and the different geographical time zones eg countries with perpetual night / day? 443 ...... until you know of what you utter ..... Yes, salat is verbal and we must understand what we are saying so I say my prayers in English as it is my mother tongue. 245 ... and seek help in patience and the prayer .... The does not necessarily mean to ASK God for help during the ritual prayer, it could mean that through performing the ritual prayers in which God Alone is worshipped, you will receive help from God as promised in other verses in Quran. 339 - 42 Does not make reference to Iqimis salat (the ritual prayer) but just says that Zakariya was standing in prayer. As I understand it we can pray to God anytime and ask for help, forgiveness etc but the ritual prayer is specifically for the worship of God alone 341 wazkur Rabbaka kaseeran wa sabbih bil'ashiyyi wal'ibkaar. .....and glorify (Him) in the afternoon and evening So does this mean there is an afternoon ritual prayer too?

As I have stated in other posts I am a Jew and not a Zionist. I think the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is horrible to the Palestinians. No one should be oppressed like that. Unfortunately my tax dollars pay to support the poor treatment of Palestinians (I am in the US). It's now confusing whether it's Israeli vs Palestinians or Israelis vs Arabs or Israeli vs Shiites plus Sunnis vs Shiites plus Israeli vs Sunnis which is happening in the middle east. In any case CONFLICT IS HORRIBLE TO COMMON PEOPLE. Conflict only provide benefits for "politicians" and "weapon seller". Why is their a conflict? Because it is easier to defeat two parties and take their resources if the two parties are busy fighting each other. You simply stoke the fire on each side and take their resources. The world runs on petroleum. The middle east has a lot of petroleum. How to get it as cheaply as possible? Take their eye off of how much it is worth by telling them that their neighbor is going to steal it. And then you can also take their money by selling them weapons too. To both sides. Israel / Palestine and Jordan doesn't have any oil / petroleum reserve. Thus the conflict on that specific area is not related to petroleum. The people in the middle east need to wake up and realize that togetherness is more important than division. Quit fighting. Find peace. Build a bright future together. Keep their eye on living a good life of peace and happiness like the Quran tells we should live. This one i couldn't agree more. So what's the problem on "Israel and Palestine" conflict? Is it LAND? PRIDE? (Revenge, Retaliation, Getting Even etc..) or WELL BEING OF THE PEOPLE? Most people still stuck at no 1 and 2 and that's why the problem stuck for nearly one century now without clear solution. People should put more attention to solve no 3. I think the Arab spring was a start in that direction. Unfortunately people are trying to stop this. Talking about "Arab Spring" is as complicated as talking about "Middle East Conflict", too many parties involved where each have their own separate agenda. Salam / Peace

This might clarify the meanings First noun is broken plural feminine-cities-towns. Possessive phrase "the mother of them-". Today we call it the Capital of a nation-state. Rulers who administer the nation-state are stationed at the Capital-the Main City. They are the first target audience of the Messenger and the Book of Allah. +salaam And additional thought. Cape Town is called The Mother City in South Africa. Not because it is the capital city but because it was the first city in South Africa. +salaam

I am currently trawling through all this to see if anything actually is relevant to what I wanted to know. I stumbled across this Even more so than "Sunnah Hero"? I still remember reading old posts on this forum. I have read somewhere where Sunnah-hero said that women are property of men so men can sell them" "There's no rape in Islam". I was like o o o o o o o o o o o o Yes, I am worse that Sunnah-hero in the eyes of Student of Naturalism because I criticize strict atheism. She wants me to praise atheists so I just hail Bill Maher!

Welcome to this forum If you want to know, your profile pic is my former one, before I changed it into this one. Peace

Salaam, In my humble opinion, these sectarians would not be embarrassed if a Muslim asked this but they'd become hypocritical and try to make apologetic claims when a non-Muslim asked this kind of question. Regards, Yuliana

welcome I know my brother is such a wonderful site and you can soak up alot of knowledge

Peace be with thee, If stoning is advocated it means that God is barbaric and evil. Is this your god? God bless you

Fare thee well, Huruf had good things to say about the topic. So a conclusion we can draw together is that this is what God means in 434. It has nothing to do with androcentrism. God bless you

Assalaamu wa Alaikum, I am so happy you are on a path seeking the Truth as well, Alhamdulillah. And may Allah bless all your endeavors. Just to give you another perspective on all of this, I will tell you that my situation was similar only that I come from a non-religious mostly atheist family, and I was an atheist myself before finding Islam. Your parents ask you why do you pray that way, mine ask why I pray at all. Haha, so it has been an extremely difficult process, and is ongoing. I just had a family reunion with the side of the family from the south who are all mostly fundamentalist Southern Baptist Christians, so that was interesting. Anyway the point is that you will be tested and will continue to be tested, as will everyone, so try to stay strong. You are right about what you said to your mother. God gave you a brain for a reason, so use it and continue to seek the truth in the best manner you can. Don't worry about what others think, what is important is what Allah thinks of us. I hope the best for you and pray everything will turn out well, remember everything happens for a reason. Salaam P.S. Have you ever heard of Adnan Ibrahim, you and/or your parents might be interested in seeing some of his videos. Here is a link to one and you can explore from there. Happy Learning! The Human that God Wants http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGX3URPb_lg Thank you for this and for the video it made me tear up thank i deeply appreciate it

Peace to you also mmkhan I read the thread, but maybe it made me more confused. But anyway I liked your conclusions and the ressonoment leading there. But what I noticed was 5924 He is God; the Creator, the Initiator, the Designer. To Him belong the most beautiful names. Glorifying Him is everything in the heavens and the earth. He is the Noble, the Wise. He is Allah, WHO? "AlKhaliq", "AlBaari", "AlMusawwir", what are these words? These are the names of Allah, for HIM belongs the most beautiful names that no one else has. So do you say that these are the names we should say before eating, and only these? But you could also read this line as this are his titles/attributes and not names. Or do you mean they could be the same? Also Allah/God can be seen as an attribute. An attribute only for Him. But then you can not take this (Allah/God) out from the list you mentioned.. And we know very well as you also pointed out that God/Allah isn?t God?s name. So sorry to say. Now I?m really confused. But don?t take me wrong. I am very glad that you enlight this topic. We know very well that its quite needed to know Gods name. Or maybe we dont read the text in 6119 correct. Could the answer be in what loxbox13 wrote Asmaa al houssan doesn't translate , beautiful name, but beautifull nominations , allah is called upon and not called like we do So it could be something with we cant call God a name but call upon him instead. I can?t figure out if this can solve the problem with the name. ??? So help us God. God bless you too.

How is it that if Maryam was a virgin, her son's birth is supposed to be due to God saying "kun" fa yakun and that if she is not a virgin God says nothing? Everything that exists is because God says "kun" fa yakun, by whatever ways or means it comes to being. I mean, God saying "be" and it is it happens with whatever and whoever, whther by "miracle" or by "natural" means. It does not say anything about being something special, the only thing it throws light on is that if God wills anything can be, whatever may be the prospects at the moment. You are well and alive and suddenly you die, that is the same thing. I see no suport in that for the virgin birth, I see support for any kind of birth. Salaam

Hello, My name is mahmoud. I have some question since a while. I moved along with my mother from India to Europe some time ago. She used to wear a hijab, but here, due her work culture she is pretty liberal in her clothing. I mean, pretty much modernized. I don?t know how right or wrong is that. BR, Salaamun alayka, India = UAE? Salaam, Bender

After some research, looks like I must agree if Allah can be translate into God in english. The reason is According to lafadz mudzakar (masculine) rules, the word "Allah" actually male in gender and it's feminine form is "Allata" ( &#1578 and appeared in verse 5319. So that's why in english language using the word "Him" as pronoun of "Allah". But I still confused because the definitif form of ilah is Al-Ilah not Allah, because it has no rule in Arabic grammar.I'm not expert in Arabic grammar, so anyone can help me?? Peace

There is no reference in the Quran to sex in paradise. It talks about both females but also young boys. Yes. There is no ugly things. Its pure status which I can not imagine with perverted mind. May be kind of pure children mind set.