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I totally agree with u yeah but what i meant , that some may consider themselves believers and moslem by just accepting and aknowledging the Quran as the book of God, but not bother know wht is in it or follow it. peace I knew what you meant, but others who read might not know; thus, it is better to clairfy. Peace

Peace, Sure welcome to this forum. You seems to be very active though I have already seen alot of your posts Maria

Salam alaikum, welcome Dear sister, sorry that I say this so late but better late than never so to speak sun Hope you will like it here on this forum!! Take care and peace be upon you Maria

Thanks for these nice words from all of you.... Really appreciate them... Hope God will bless us with Paradise and keep us among those whom he has guided.... Thanks for the links David... So far... Am still reading the articles on main free-minds site.... I don't try to read all of them as fast as possible... I rather read them little by little and move when things have digested... There are many many things to read... But Praise be to God... All these have opened my mind... A new perspective to see things which i think is the oldest and best perspective to see things... Al-Quran should be our microscope... I ask Allah to grant me knowledge that will be beneficial to me and protect me from knowledge which will lead me astray....

Peace All, Thank you all, YES aalmakto, this is the one Total number of traditions in 9 volumns of Bukhari and the narrators 7068 Aisha the mother of faithful 1250 (17.68%) Abu Hurairah 1100 (15.56%) Ibn-Umar, son of Umar 1100 (15.56%) Anas-Ibn-Malik 900 (12.73%) Abdullah-Ibn-Abbas 700 (9.9%) Jobair-Ibn-Abdullah 275 (3.89%) Abu-Musa-Ashari 165 (2.33%) Abu-Said-Al-Khedri 130 (1.84%) Ali-Ibn-Abitaleeb 79 (1.11%) Umar-Ibn-Khattab 50 (0.71%) Umm Salamh 48 (0.68%) Abdullah-Ibn-Masud 45 (0.64%) Muawiyah-Ibn-Abusofyan 10 (0.14%) Hasan-Ibn-Ali 8 (0.11%) Ali-Ibn-Husain 6 (0.08%) Husain-Ibn-Ali 2 (0.03%) (83% on the whole) All narrators should have known to be sincere muslims. They should not have practiced or be practicing 'Tadlees'. 'Tadlees' (lit. deception) means narrating a Hadith with a chain that raises its status higher than it actually deserves. This practice can be implemented in two key ways. (i) Tadlees in 'Isnad' (ii) Tadlees in 'Shuyookh'. 'Tadlees in Isnad' occurs when one narrates a Hadith from a person who he has, although met, but not heard from. Even if he doesn't mention the teacher's name in explicit terms, any indication that gives an impression of having heard from or visited him will still be branded as 'Tadlees'. 'Tadlees in Shuyookh' takes place when one, while narrating, mentions his teacher with such ambiguity that conceals or helps to conceal his real identity and thereby switches the mind to another narrator of a higher caliber. He should not be a 'Mukhtalit'. Literally meaning 'one who puts into confusion', it applies to every deliberate alteration from a narrator that may threat the veracity of the narrative. He should be well-distinguished in having maintained a proper conduct and a honorable record. He should be possessing of outstanding exactitude and preciseness. If any element of doubt is found in his narrations, this quality of his will be rendered void. He should have a sound memory and should also be free from all mental disorders and psychological deficiencies even from forgetfulness due to old age or sickness. ? He should have pristine theological beliefs. If his beliefs clash with those of the 'Ahl As-Sunnah wal Jama'ah', his narrations will be subject to further consideration depending on the severity of his deviation. ? There should be solid evidence of his union with his teacher who he narrates from. Mere possibility of their meeting will not be acceptable enough, as it would be to Imam Muslim rahimahullah. ? Some scholars have also added that every link of the chain of a specific Hadith should have at least two narrators especially going closer to the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam i.e. in the case of the Companions radiallahu anhumand their Successors rahimahumullah. Abu Abdullah Al-Hakim rahimahullah, compiler of the controversial 'Mustadrak' on the 'Sihah' of Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim rahimahumullah, seems to have initialized this thought and was consequently criticized. This thought did find some defendants, but not before undergoing reinterpretation. The critics argued that an in-depth analysis of the book simply proves the notion utterly fallacious as most narrations are, ironically in the initial stages, transmitted only by a single source. The defendants adopted various standpoints. Some explained that what understood was not what was intended. This condition was just a misinterpretation of another which required a narration to befit in the scope of 'Shuhrah' (lit. fame). The evidence forwarded was that some narrations were considered acceptable though they did not completely fulfill the disputed condition. Rather, Imam Bukhari rahimahullah, if convinced, also accepted Ahadith where only one transmitter was available even at an initial stage. This methodology of individual meriting indicated that what was of essence was the condition of 'Shuhrah' and not the number of narrators available. This response, although profound, failed to convince those who vehemently demanded unconditional proof to the claims. A more appealing argument given was that the fame of a narrator, and not the narrated as asserted in the previous explanation, was required. It was suggested that a narrator should certify towards his mass recognition by simply providing names of at least two of his transmitters. Clearly, as similar to the former explanation, the key point was that one was not required to have transmitted a specific Hadith to two narrators as conditioned in Al-Hakim's rahimahullah thought. Only required was enough proof that the narrator was not unknown and hence this argument was relatively more convincing and acceptable.

Salaam Abdu and welcome aboard Thank you for sharing your story with us. I hope you will learn, and you will definitely contribute even by just asking questions and making others think about a response. And do not forget to read the forum rules. It's free-minds, but with discipline http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=8177.0 Peace to you samia, Thank you very much for keeping and maintaining this site and for reminding me about the forum rules. I haven't gone through that yet. You are absolutely right it should be with discipline. abdu

Salaam abdu, Thanks for sharing. May God guide you and your family. Peace

Dear Meek, what do you mean by God alone? please explain according to your understanding. Regards.

Salaam, I lived in a 100% sunni culture for more than a year back in 2004. What it did for my bias? It actually showed me again and again the genre of Islam I did not want to be a part of. Peace

Peace Welcome. How did you determine that it was true instantly? Joe

Hello Katkuta, This is truly a place where one can relax and ponder. Welcome sister welcome

Peace, Respectfully. welcome to the forum, Sarah and may God protects you and guides you at all times. I wish you all the best. Always ask God for help, rely on Him and trust Him, He has The Plan. Keep up the prayer and be patient. Peace. Thanks Alen, It's taken a long time for me to come to thinking of God as not a sadist... hail Peace, Sarah

Meek, The Lady angel Salaam, Meek. I just wanted to apologize for assuming you were a dude. Ma'salaama, T.

When it comes to comparing men and women, these are what I used to know. Men were made better. Men can have 4 wives. Men can beat their wives. Peace, Respectfully. Their Lord responded to them "I never fail to reward any worker among you for any work you do, be you male or female - you are equal to one another. Thus, those who immigrate, and get evicted from their homes, and are persecuted because of Me, and fight and get killed, I will surely remit their sins and admit them into gardens with flowing streams." Such is the reward from GOD. GOD possesses the ultimate reward. 1.The Muslim woman has the same right as the Muslim man in all matters including divorce.Quran 3195 She enjoys property and inheritance rights. (Which other religion grants women these rights?). She can also conduct her own separate business.Quran 47 She can marry any Muslim of her choice. If her parents choose a partner for her, her consent must be taken. Quran 424-25 The dowry in Islam is a gift from a husband to his wife .Quran 44 A Muslim widow is allowed to remarry, and her remarriage is the responsibility of the Muslim society. Quran 2234 6.Mixed marriage is encouraged and is a mean to prevent racism creeping in society.Quran 425 A Muslim mother (and father) is given the highest form of respect. Quran 1723 Marriage is between consenting adults. Since marriage is a more significant institution than a financial one which needs maturity, see 46. Maturity and understanding is required for marriage as much. 9.God teaches clearly in the Quran "...do not reverence human beings; you shall reverence Me (God) instead...." Quran 544, 918 When it comes to having four wives, we can't just marry the first four virgins we see in the nieghborhood. The Quran is very clear whom to marry and gives a clue why. If you deem it best for the orphans, you may marry their mothers - you may marry two, three, or four. If you fear lest you become unfair, then you shall be content with only one, or with what you already have. Additionally, you are thus more likely to avoid financial hardship. From 43 it is seen, God willing, that we are to marry 2 or 3 or 4 widows in order to take care of the orphan children, which means that if there are 2 or 3 or 4 widows in your area, it must means only one thing a devastating war has happened and most man are dead so the goal of such a marriage, to marry so many widows, is to repopulate the Earth and not for sexual pleasure. A man can't beat his wife and let's leave it at that. Let's see what The Exalted God The Most Just, The Most Wise says 434 "The men are to support the women by what God has gifted them over one another and for what they spend of their money. The upright women who are attentive, and keep private the personal matters for what God keeps watch over. As for those women from whom you fear a desertion, then you shall 1) advise them, and 2) abandon them in the bedchamber, and 3) "Idribuhun" let them go forth; if they obey you, then do not seek a way over them; God is High, Great." As one can see, God willing, the first appraoch is psychological. The next is desertion from the bed and finally seperation. But as one knows, AlhamdilAllah, no one wants to be abandoned in bed, so the couple will return to step one - to the table and discuss it and solution is reached, InshaAllah. Glory be to our God. Peace.

Peace, Respectfully. You shall seek help through steadfastness and the Contact Prayers (Salat). This is difficult indeed, but not so for the reverent. "Oh you who believe! Seek help with patient perseverance and prayer, for God is with those who patiently persevere." (2153) "Be sure We shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods, lives, and the fruits of your toil. But give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere. Those who say, when afflicted with calamity, 'To Allah we belong, and to Him is our return.' They are those on whom descend blessings from their Lord, and mercy. They are the ones who receive guidance." (2155-157) "Oh you who believe! Persevere in patience and constancy. Vie in such perseverance, strengthen each other, and be pious, that you may prosper." (3200) "And be steadfast in patience, for verily Allah will not suffer the reward of the righteous to perish." (11115) "Be patient, for your patience is with the help of Allah." (16127) "Patiently, then, persevere - for the Promise of Allah is true, and ask forgiveness for your faults, and celebrate the praises of your Lord in the evening and in the morning." (4055) "No one will be granted such goodness except those who exercise patience and self-restraint, none but persons of the greatest good fortune." (4135) "Verily man is in loss, except such as have faith, and do righteous deeds, and join together in the mutual enjoining of truth, and of patience and constancy." (1032-3) "It is not righteousness that you turn your faces towards East or West. But it is righteousness to believe in Allah and the Last Day, And the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; To spend of your substance, out of love for Him, For your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; To be steadfast in prayer And give in charity; To fulfill the contracts which you have made; And to be firm and patient, in pain and adversity And throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the God-fearing. Qur'an 2177 Verily, with every difficulty there is relief. Verily, with every difficulty there is relief. Qur'an 945-6 Glory be to our God, The Most Powerful, Glory be to our God, The Most Merciful, Glory be to our God, The Most Wise, Glory be to our God, The Most Just, Glory be to our God, The Most High. Peace. jedi jedi

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I know what you are saying.

Salaam Rahi and welcome ;D I wish you every peace in your chosen path.

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Thank you, I must still say, you still write very poetically. A few words of advise, if I may. Not all of us are on the same frequency, for various reasons, events in our life, the times during the day and so on. I, personally, have found Salat super! I encourage you to read, if you have not already read, Laytth's article on Salat, and the others as well. I have found them very valuable. I trust your experience, and value what you have shared. David_K, another good person I contacted on this platform told me that patience is key. In my life, that was exactly what I needed to hear. If things are already falling into place, as the cherisher wills for you, then I am happy. I pray that your efforts are noticed, recognized and I hope eventually, makes a noticeable and positive contribution to the way of life God has ordained for us. Peace on you from the source of it pr Amen! I will check back to see, if you have typed something new here, however, good bye for now! peace