Questions/Comments on the Quran

I am following Quran. But to understand certain concepts I have been following or reading his posts. They make sense to me. If they don’t to you then that is fine. We do not all have to agree on this. Take what your rationale mind accepts. Let me explain you below verse which you consider differently. 235 "And We said, 'Adam, dwell thou, and thy wife, in the Garden, and eat thereof easefully where you desire; but draw not nigh this tree, lest you be evildoers." The above verse for you is not satisfied according to article.. I am not here to change you, but you said what he wrote make sense to you... I know 'Kulu' has different ways of meaning same as in English or any other language.. God spoke in one of His ways to Adam to pass above message... It was strict advice only one object while with freedom totally for rest...whatever kulu and sajara may mean for you, these are two basic restrictions.... Here in 235 Eat from tree not mentioned but not to near but in 20116-121 Eat is mentioned for same story... "Ate from the Tree" Let's turn to story... God told Adam the restriction... But SATAN heard it... God strongly advised Adam SATAN is enemy... But Adam forgot... SATAN knew God restricted with reason the tree... So Satans only aim is to entice Adam to disobey only the same point.. So SATAN enticed with the same tree which God restricted to near. SATAN knew it is just another tree nothing special but only a restriction... Adam believed Satan's fancy words totally forgetting God's clear instructions... Did Adam become after eating from the tree immortal and etc as SATAN promised? No... Isn't the promise of Satan deception? Isn't SATAN want Adam and all human to act against what God likes and instructs so that we err.. Janna is to indulge in and one of those is consuming food... Adam had all the freedom to indulge in except the very simple restriction... Only ONE.. but disobeyed... Had Allah not restricted, Story would have been different? God PROMISED to iblees RESPITE... Respite with small door opened.. That's the restriction imposed on Adam... That's the point SATAN touches.. Even in this world same... SATAN touches our desire and weaknesses to lead us astray.. I mean satan wait in ambush to make us go against God's RESTICTIONS... GOD'S restrictions are so simple but we deny like Adam.. My question is.. Would you pls explain the SAME story from quran what makes SENSE to you? Let's see whether it is food for thought.. Make sure Kulu and sajara included in your explanation... I am always accepting what makes sense to me... Let me see why it made sense to you while not for me from the same quran... Guidance is ONE..

Yes you're right. I was wrong too. 2 differents sentences. clarification Yes 2 sentences but the second one includes the problem of the first sentence. Other verses with classical translation Quran, 1825 وَلَبِثُوا فِي كَهْفِهِمْ ثَلَاثَ مِائَةٍ سِنِينَ وَازْدَادُوا تِسْعًا And they remained in their cave (for) three hundred years and add nine. Quran, 1826 قُلِ اللَّهُ أَعْلَمُ بِمَا لَبِثُوا Say, "Allah knows best about what they remained. Question / reflection What is the reference of these 3 subject pronouns to the end of these verbs?

Salam, Another opportunity to study the relationships of wa and ya on the second radical of a triliterary root. Here are two associated Quranic roots (1) غ ى ث (gh-y-th / al-ghayth / verb form ghaatha) the meaning is about a soil sprinkled with abundant and extensive rain that quickly grows vegetation on a soil that was lacking (arid). This brings us back to the image of the dead earth which becomes alive again http//corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=gyv#(31347) (2) غ و ث (gh-w-th) the meaning is to rescue someone and assist them when they are in a position of distress. http//corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=gwv#(182919) There is no doubt that a link has to be established between the two roots because it can be said that abundant rain comes to the aid of the parched/dry earth. the difference is due to the ya and the wa on the second radical (1) we are not associated with rescue - rescue is outside of us (natural world) (2) we are associated with the rescue - we are the instigator.

Yes you're right. I just add that "to pierce" is not just more hard than "to scale" but the text tells us that it is almost impossible to pierce. Root ن ق ب Ibn Faris stated (مقاييس اللغة) النُّونُ وَالْقَافُ وَالْبَاءُ أَصْلٌ صَحِيحٌ يَدُلُّ عَلَى فَتْحٍ فِي شَيْءٍ. وَنَقَبَ الْحَائِطَ يَنْقُبُهُ نَقْبًا. That it leads to the perception of making an opening into a thing; and drilling or excavating the wall; he drilled it in the manner of making a hole/entry point in it. Lane Lexicon He perforated, pierced, bored, or made a hole through, or in, or into, anything like ثَقَبَ. (TA.) He made a hole through a wall. Classical Lexicons اردو میں ہم اصل نقب اور نقیب مستعمل ہے ١ - دیوار میں گھٹا پھوڑنا، سیندھ، کومہل، شگاف، فصیل، سرنگ۔ نقیب کسی قوم یا گروہ کا بڑا آدمی، قبیلے کا ذمے دار فرد جو اس کی نمائندگی کرے، سردار، سربراہ۔ http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/(1486).htm

Lowest/Deepest point of earth discovered in Antarctica https//www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-50753113 Time to update 303 translation ? The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation) 303 At the lowest part on the earth. But after their victory, they will be defeated. The deepest part of whole earth including land/water = mariana trench. The deepest part of land earth was dead sea area. Their findings are new updated information we must understand the matter with logical/technical approach. Dosent matter its a glacier but what matter is that galcier is at LAND or at OCEAN? Next thing to consider all oceans are infact on LAND. Btw lets say thats the deepest point what do u think the alternate translation? 1 low land (deepest on earth) 2 cheap land ( no value) 3 dead land ( no vegetation) 4 useless land ( not suitable for housing). Look how many alternates are still there for that "ADNA" word. And lot more u can see how many times translations adjusted as per recent knowledge. From flat to round theres a history of land and translations within nations lol.

Introduction of the Grand Qur’ān The first concern of a serious/critical reader is the accuracy, reliability and objectivity of the Book in hand. These concerns are satisfied only if the book is void of suspicious, conjectural, whimsical, conflicting, un-certain, illusory, perplexing, biased and opinionated matter. Grand Qur’ān is perhaps the only book that cares and respects the concern and time value of serious reader. It addresses the natural apprehension and uncertainty the reader might feel having picked up the Book in the hope and pursuit of truth http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/temp%2002%20%202.002.gif This is the Book, you will find reading it that its contents are absolutely void of peeving substance suspicious, conjectural, whimsical, conflicting, ambiguous, anomalous, irrational, un-certain, illusory, unsubstantiated, incongruous, biased and opinionated matter. "Raiba" and "shakk" are two different words of Arabic language, not interchangeable. http//haqeeqat.pk/TranslationInimitabilityLaRaibaFehi.htm

Thank you very much for your excellent inputs. Be aware to realize the presence of God in us, the heart in peace and love. We lose the connection with the presence of God when the ego takes control over our being. The ego collapses, when one lets go. God bless

Peace, No comment.

1145-6 "....Who whispers into the breasts of mankind. From among the jinn and mankind." 6112 " .. And thus We have made for every prophet an enemy - devils from mankind and jinn, inspiring to one another ...... ..." The above verses comparison allow me to ponder that men and Jin equally harm human... In 114-5-6 whispers of evil is from men and jinn, while in 6112 shaitan among men and Jin... Shaitan we normally know whispers....coz you won't find in shaitan good ones but Evil ones... But whoever of men who is shaitan are evil men only... Such shaitans (men and jinn) causes harm and affliction. . Peace...

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Any updates on this topic? Seems pretty straightforward to me https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602147.msg274246#msg274246

Peace, shuhooma al-ghanam fats of sheep (plural form) shahma al-ma3z (singular form) the fat of goat (for example) al-baqar /al- baqarah, al-ghanam / al-ma3z, al-khinzeer / al-khanazeer / al-qiradah (monkeys) are nouns of animals. I correct the example for sheep which is al-kharoouf /al-ghanam instead of al-ma3z (goat) (singular form). al-baqar /al- baqarah, al-ghanam / al-kharoof, al-khinzeer / al-khanazeer / al-qiradah (monkeys) are nouns of animals.

Peace Mazhar, everybody Thank you for your input. FM translation 9128 A messenger has come to you from yourselves, troubled over your deviation, anxious over you, towards the believers he is compassionate, merciful. Does the messenger is only the messenger who has received the revelation of the Qur'an or an indefinite messenger? 3343 He is the One who connects towards you, along with His angels, to bring you out of darkness and into the light. And He is ever Merciful towards the believers. 351 Praise be to God, Initiator of the heavens and the earth; Maker of the angels as messengers with wings of two, and three, and four. He increases in the creation as He wishes. God is able to do all things. 2275 God chooses messengers from among the angels and from among the people. God is Hearer, Seer.

Peace 3918 The ones who listen to what is being said, and then follow the best of it. These are the ones whom God has guided, and these are the ones who possess intelligence. What is being said Is it referring to Quran or anything in general? Best of it Best of what is being said (Quran or any word in general?) If it is referring to what is being said in Quran then what is the meaning of "Best of IT" ? Best meaning/interpretation? If we compare with the following verse where it talks about the tablets of Moses we see the similar expression. The following verse is only referring to the Tablets of Moses. What is best from The tablets of Moses? Best meaning/interpretation? 7145 And We wrote for him on the tablets from all things a lesson, and detailing all things. Take it with strength and order your people to take the best from it. I will show you the abode of the wicked. Peace Peace... Very good choice of verses.. That manifestly talk about only the verses of God or rather speech of God... Nothing else... In my understanding to take the better of it means to get the understanding of the verses in right way... Coz both the verses give the instructions for people to choose... Not to explicitly explain to Messengers the better part... We have to decide what actually written in the book.. Be it tora or Quran... We have to ponder on the verses of God... And get better of it for us to follow... We can't follow blindly... So we learn quran and get an idea what actually God has revealed and then opt the better of it... That's what I get by those two verses.. In a way interpretation of one's own... But after thoroughly studying... Coz the choice is given to the one who hears the speech of God or for current people the book itself... As long as we stick within the meaning of Quran with utmost exploration then it befits..

Salam brother You are absolutely right! peace Peace brother... Sorry for late reply... These days presidential election and concentration was on it... Unfortunately it seems bad time for minorities... Okay... Would you pls explain why I am right? So I can deduce something...pls explain within Quran what actually the verse speaks of within your knowledge ...

Peace Noon waalqalami, Thank you for links and the picture. But what's you goal of your intervention ? (1) My approach is synchronic so yes the form is biya..No problem with that (2) Biha ? Yes i know the grammatical rule (Already put a post about it) but here biha refers only to masjids (3) My advice Be focus FIRST on what say al quran and specially by his structuration (the goal of this post) and intra-textuality, and AFTER look at hadiths if they fit in with al Quran.

Dear Husbulla... To date what I perceive is within me... Unfortunately I don't see within my limited knowledge that prophet saw Allah... If one day if God let me know crystal clearly through any of His Quran verses that prophet saw Allah then I will let you know isha Allah publicly saying that I was wrong on that day and you are right... Till then let me study Quran for my salvation... Okay dude.. No grudges... Keep cool... Guidance cannot be of wrong choice of verses... If I am wrong at least few members would prove within Quran.. I never underestimate your knowledge.... Only hearty wish is let God guide us with what is right... Let the wrong path fade off handshake

I think your mistake came to translate by a past tense.. The infinitive (verbal noun here as infinitive - It is the substantive that serves to designate the action) is an unconjugated form of the verb, that is to say, a form of the verb that bears no marks of time, number, or person. So my proposition of translation If Allah does not do the act to repel some people by others.. Past tense is okay since the apodosis clause جواب الشرط is past passive verb.

At least consider/ understand the status (level of ignorance) of the people Moses were sent, and the nature of Fir’aun who claimed as GOD! (283 Another verse (7107) ثُعْبَانٌ مُّبِينٌ -a serpent, manifest http//corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=7&verse=107

Basic premise is invalid. For the translation of this passage I have already shown that the text corresponds to the "RHManic" principle of the Basmala.