Questions/Comments on the Quran

OK, we do not exist, what is the use of heaven and hell then? Without humans to fill it, hell will not exist also brother. you're only existence is consciousness (of light upon light) ... accordingly, • consciounsness of Heaven <- is light upon light • consciounsness of Hell <- is light upon light same thing during dreams... <- is light upon light same thing in this life you called as "reality" <- is light upon light THEREFORE, Hell & Heaven exists. He who comes to his LordLaw (of Nature/Sunnatullah) as a Criminal (vs. the Sunnatullah, unnaturalist, crime of ecological disorder and the sixth mass extinctions), he will have Hell, where he will neither die in it nor live. (2074)

Salam Dear JKhan and thank you! I wanted to post it under "Question/Comments on Quran" section. Now I don't know how to change it. Should I PM or Email to someone? Peace! Just copy the link and put it in question and answer and you continue there... I think it is a good topic and hope you have more to say on this as well others God guide us

PEACE brother, on the merits of book its interesting to note this book metaphors are not just metaphors but a hint to seek/investigate about it. in other words a format which is open for interpretation at any TIME by mumtiple theories. ( REAL purpose for this phenomenon) only known to God. i remember a BOOK in which ?YOU choose ur own adventure? with different options availaible at different situation by YES or NO decision every decision ends up with different results. may b that idea drived from a book in which u are FREE to interprate some of the MUlTIPLE meanings/metaphors/scientific/historic verses etc. thats why author challenged at different events for working on that book. as a result people start easing the read by different methods easy for refferencing like numbering, vocal marks, interpretation, grammer, everything was there a lot for everyone to learn.( along with still earliest models present on earth for research). which make it easy for leanrer to research. about the mumtiple meanings i have example thread hope so it convey the meanings what i m saying. https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609614.0;all

Actually I was asking you and other members for their take on it! Salaam hawk99 My take is simply from Quran. I did not find any verse commanding us not to pray at certain times. Please help me find it in Quran.

so sorry by mistake... i was responding in the thread "Pork Halal" pls admin delete...

Thank you for explaining that Mazhar. what did he explain to you ? @ brother mazhar, he is on 27.19 instead of prefixed preposition you should have explained him The Resumption Particle ( ). thats what he was on about. lol look at people they dunt know what they are asking.

I think we were alive in some form before being put to death and resurrected in the womb. Then we die again in this life and we're resurrected again to return to our Lord. Anything beyond that seems like conjecture.

Yes. He could create an immovable rock since God is capable of all things but He would have to permanently sacrifice His power to move it after creating it and would cease being God. Because if He gave up His power to prevent Himself from moving it then He would lack the power to return to being Omnipotent. And if he only removed "the part of Himself" that can move it, while still remaining Omnipotent, then that means He didn't actually "remove that part" and would be faking it since Omnipotence and a lack of power is a logical contradiction. Regardless, the question is pointless because it teaches us nothing and God has no reason to do that anyway. It tends to be asked by Atheists who think they have some kind of checkmate.

Some Islamophobic Christians use Samarqand Kufic Quran to make the Modern Quran look like it's been tampered.

ok thanks brother noon it does make sense.

I am not here to prove the adamant people who have no evidence for claims... But I consider as my duty to spread the truth with logic... So erudite people will ponder.. Okay here concern and clarification needed is "" quran for Men only or Jinn as well.."" Yes.. And to prove it I will bring few more verses.. As I always say with Quranic proof Jinn has no difference to human 7139 ..but they are created by fire and more powerful compared to man... 6130... God is posing a question to these two communities (Jinn and Human) didn't MESSENGERS come to you among yourself and reciting my verses and warn you.... No where in Quran talks of a particular messenger after quran to any community be it Man or Jinn. Quran is the only messenger as a book and it's message being spread as willed by God to Men and Jinn.. No wonder I repeat Jinn listened to quran and went as heralds to their community... 1788 a thought provoking verse.. What's the logic here.. God asks Men and Jinn to get together to produce the like of Quran.. Why Jinn should involve in this to produce a like of Quran. Why not only men? Or Men and Jaan or Men and snake or men and animals... It was revealed to Mohamed and Mohamed was a man who spoke Arabic... Strong evidence that Jinn also meant for guidance by quran... They can't produce like of Quran.. How can they produce the like of Quran unless they do Know about it in the first place what is Quran.. Why they should produce a like of something which is irrelevant to them...?? But God gave priority to first to whome it was revealed which the society of Mohamed and to whomever God willing to guide of Men of any period and to His other creature Jinn.... God says 5156 "" I didn't create jinn and Men except to serve (Ibada) Me... Did God miss out the Jaan after creating it by fire to let them serve Him...? Oops God missed out Iblees who is made of fire to serve him... No way... God knows what He speaks... Jinn and Jann same... Is iblees exempted from serving God or his descendants... Then why iblees should be destined in Quran for hell if he was not meant for serving God? If not for serving then violations are irrelevant.. That's undeniable with the wording of Quran... As per topic... I have responded that quran is for Men and Jinn collectively and in addition to that I clarified that Jinn and Jaan same creature in Quran... Till one prove with evidence it's much better to be silent... If anyone interested let him open a different topic so we explain the three way of explanation of Mosa's staff in Quran... God bless us

Dear Imran... It's long time I responded you with... Hope you keep fine.. Okay... Khalifa is successor... That I do agree with basic meaning of Quran and root... But why everyone take this khalifa as only Human... God asked malaika and they told about disorder and blood shedding... Malaika knew only what they taught with and what they perceived with.. Even malaika couldn't identify what Adam explained and then how malaika will know Adam or his successors will make disorder .. Point to think... Clearly human Adam was not created while they discussed this... But malaika definitly knew about it's own brotheren who were created by fire but not designated or given the state of malaika... Jinns were always living in Janna with their flaws and weeknesess.... Malaika knew they were trouble makers. Malaikas definitly misunderstood that Jinns gonna be placed on the earth as khalifas away from Janna... It's mystry whether God informed of the new creation of human to malaika but God only told gonna place khalifa which In fact includes Jinns.... I doubt God informed Adam creation to malaika... Are we the only khalifa? If so then it's a serious mistake... Meanwhile God created Adam with the intention of placing human also as khalifa together with Jinns... Mainly to Ibada (serve) Him as a slave be it obedient or disobedient but slave anyway... Once Adam is created he was taught every names.. Most probably about the place Adam is originallegally meant to live which is earth... But when it was referred to malaikas they were unable to name them... They didn't know what Adam knew even though Adam was new as creation... Priority is pretty clear... Then the great feud.. Iblees seems to be having no issues of Jinns or highly ranked malaikas but only to Adam... Coz of clear discrimination shown by the will of God to Adam... Then story goes on.. And Adam and his wife and iblees and all jins were as planned shifted to the place called earth each other as enemies.... And guidance came to khalifas of this world... So came to this world and become as successors.. Coz no one was here on earth as successors.. Malika knew only one part that's Jinns that's why they referred trouble makers while they were pure... Doesn't God know what His plan was... While Malika didn't know what God knew and planned.. Only came to know once Adam was created and we're ordered to sujud... That's why we are children of Adam... Note malaikas not only knew that khalifas will make disorder and she'd blood but they knew there will be a day of ressurection and everything will be settled one day... They never knew that a human also will be created to be part and parcel of the Jinns..Gods saying to malaikas of I know what you don't know is a hidden plan.. But malaikas only deduced eith what is already available which Jinns only... I extremely conclude that malaika referred only the Jinns who shed blood and not human... Once Adam was created it was spontaneously known factor that humans also subjected to God's kingdom... Day of ressurection is not a decision after the creation of Adam but it's a well know thing for Jinns and their so called malaikas... Salam to All, I am also agree of what Jkhan said, the Malaika were thinking the creation man was going to be like jinn by shedding blood. God bless you

http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/115.Mutashabeha%20Sheen%20Ba%20Haa/4.gif Form-VI Active Participle. Measure VI is related to Measure III meaning. It has a reflexive meaning of Measure III. Generally, the meaning of Measure VI is two or more subjects doing whatever the action of Measure III is. These are the performers of a job signified by the verb from which it is derived; they relate two things by comparison, one known and the other unknown. This is what we call in English "Metaphor". Metaphors are used to help us understand the unknown because we use what we know in comparison with something we don't know to get a better understanding of the unknown. The purpose of quoting similes is to explain and elaborate information facilitating the reader to conveniently perceive and understand it comprehensively. Metaphors are employed to let reader have a general idea and perception about an unknown abstract reality and phenomenon. Using similes and metaphors does not mean that the concept, abstract reality and phenomenon highlighted through them were earlier vague and undefined in absolute sense. Level of information, intellect and understanding of men varies. Explanation and elaboration through Similes and metaphors help make perceptions explicit. Metaphor comes from the Greek word meaning "I carry with"; and is a rhetorical figure used to "carry" the meaning of a word into another. Allegory comes from the Greek (to speak something different), as it expresses a concept using a different word. Contrary to metaphor, however, the shift of the meaning is often deep and hidden. http//haqeeqat.pk/FacilitatorByMetaphors.htm

The purpose is to let us benefit from the Rahma of Allah He could have punished them but he gave them respite to mend <a href="http//tanzil.net/#7631">7631</a> <a href="http//tanzil.net/#2921">2921</a> He never punished until He sent/raised a rasul <a href="http//tanzil.net/#1715">1715</a> And He sent rasul as rahma <a href="http//tanzil.net/#21107">21107</a>

peace, slight clarification nuance in translation; usage depends on context if singular, dual, plural, group, etc. mun/year (solar) sinina/years (solar) sanatan/age/year (solar) 1 1249 mun/year (solar) 2 3114 mayni/year two (solar) 3-9 1242 falabitha/so remain in the prison bida/several (i.e. 3 to 9) sinina/years (solar) 7 1247 said thou cultivating saba/seven (7) sinina/years (solar) 40 4615 arbana (i.e. group of 40) sanatan/age/year (solar) 100 2259 ... so cause to die him the god mi-ata/hundred (100) min/year (solar) ... said rather labith'ta/remain thou mi-ata/hundred (100) min/year (solar) 300 1825 walabith/and remain they of in cave theirs thaltha/three (3) mi-atin/hundred (100) sinna/years (solar) and increases they of tis'an/nine (9) of 2914 and surely sent we of noah of to folk his falabitha/so remain among them alfa/thousand (1,000) sanatin/age/year (solar) ill/except/only khamsna man/year of (solar) 1,000 296 loves one them in case upkeep-ed alfa/thousand (1,000) sanatin/age/year (solar) 50,000 704 they ascend the controllers and the spirit toward him in day (epoch) be measure its khamsna alfa/thousand (1,000) sanatin/age/year (solar)

Brother Mazhar, could you please share your understanding regarding Chapter 2 verse 102. I tried to understand the meaning of the verse but failed. Peace, NK

Senseless talk Mazhar? Obviously, despite the repeated occurences of La ilaha illAllah in the Qur'an, they fail to activate your critical thinking faculties. Now, let me show you some senseless talk...There is no god but god, there is no horse but horse, do they make sense to your highly intelligent mind? Other example of your senseless talk are Sallallahu alaihi wasallam, and alaihi salam only for other messengers other than the Arab one. Perhaps, you should read your own posts in this forum where verses of the Qur'an is being discussed or debated where your eisegesis is to be found in most of them. At least, the traditional translators of the Qur'an have the decency and respect to put their own understanding of the Qur'an in brackets so that readers can clearly see but not so with you. By the way, The message of every prophet and messenger mentioned in The Qur'an is. There is No God except Allah is it not the case or Allah = Al ilah? Salam Minus closing the brain, everyone can feel that saying "there is no god but god" is internally self contradictory. God is not a commodity. Every god is the God for someone. Here "there is" does not mean the reference of a distant location.

Qutoe from Huruf First of all, of which area do yo mean was Sulayman king? Quran mentioned a City in Mesopatamia called Babel in Connection wtih Solomon

It is unfortunate that the scholars - translators - exegetes; claimant of belief and non-believers alike, who openly or subtly alleged that Grand Qur?n lacks cohesion and coherence?unity and organization, seem to have naively overlooked and ignored the fact that unity of a book revolves around its main theme. They never realized the Theme of Grand Qur?n The Last word being accusative in absolute state is Disambiguation accusative which renders the noun 50 which is clarified as different type of years. And indeed We had sent Noah towards his nation; Whereupon he lived among them for a thousand lunar years save fifty solar years. For reason/in consequence of contradicting him flood seized them while they were persistently evil doers. wow

@ mmkhan hope u doing good. when u started this thread my position was different anyways some new perceptions from my side now. Quran is from GOD ? ? not only quran but also bible, geeta, veda, tora, budda scripture all are from GOD the one who controls everything? but the ideas and message is for human by a human and the continuity of work is also by human. is it possible that the mixing of falsehood with truth ? yes its possible. all that happened with previous scriptures. is it possible that with QURAN same thing happened ? yes why not God is divine not any book ? how we know the early generations what they did with words and the meanings of those words. even if they unable to change the arabic as per their claim. but what if they change the interpretation to the accordance of 7th century. invention of vowel marks also give new eras of explorations so we need to see what was the reason ? veey simple when u start sitting with christian, hindus, anyother u can feel they have same respect and faith on their scriptures same as muslim born do. neutrally i didnt see any nation scripture bad itself. its all about the system and tradition when we born in some specific nation we have to accept it otherwise we will b rebels of system. example if a christian go against christanity if a muslim go against islam if a hindu go against hinduism all three are rebels to their system but hero for other systems whatever system they accept. accepting system will not change anything but more confusion. example a person born in black nation cant become white( micky exception) he need to understand hez black. the reality of himself. he cant challange his nation, his color, nothing he can change same goes for every nation when we try to change what we are not we all ended up in a confusion. at this present world we been forced by very few systems amd mix and match of systems. one common thing in all systems ( they think their system is truth).