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  • Quran 14:4 Every Nation its own Messenger?

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    Peace, ironsky you may be the messenger of your people or you may be waiting for the messenger of your people, time will tell May God be with you and on judgement day grant you paradise. Peace O0
  • what is taqwa?

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    Salaam, My understand of taqwa is as follows 9115 Sahih International And Allah would not let a people stray after He has guided them until He makes clear to them what they should avoid. Indeed, Allah is Knowing of all things. Pickthall It was never Allah's (part) that He should send a folk astray after He had guided them until He had made clear unto them what they should avoid. Lo! Allah is Aware of all things. Yusuf Ali And Allah will not mislead a people after He hath guided them, in order that He may make clear to them what to fear (and avoid)- for Allah hath knowledge of all things. Shakir It is not (attributable to) Allah that He should lead a people astray after He has guided them; He even makes clear to them what they should guard against; surely Allah knows all things. Muhammad Sarwar God does not misguide a nation after having given them guidance until the means of piety are made known to them. God knows all things. Mohsin Khan And Allah will never lead a people astray after He has guided them until He makes clear to them as to what they should avoid. Verily, Allah is the All-Knower of everything. Arberry God would never lead a people astray after that He has guided them, until He makes clear to them as to what they should be godfearing; surely God knows everything. Taqwa = To Avoid or to Guard Against . Hope this may help inshaAllah. May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr mmKhan
  • Early Sufi Perspectives (video talk)

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    Give her a break, please. Farhana Mayer is a British scholar who has done good work for the sake of Allah and the Qur'an. She deserves my respect, and I recommend her book Spiritual Gems The Mystical Qur'an Commentary Ascribed by the Sufis to Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq (d. 148/765) at Amazon.com
  • Salaat Ul Ibrahim and Tahajjud during prayer

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    7200 If a suggestion from Satan assail thy (mind), seek refuge with Allah. for He heareth and knoweth (all things). Even the Christain seek refuge with God with prayers and fasting When prayer and trust does not seem to be getting the job done ... consider including the weapon of fasting." Outside of obedience to God's Word, fasting is the greatest spiritual discipline (weapon) for seeking God's intervention. Combined with prayer they together make up the most critical weapons of spiritual warfare and deliverance in our lives. While we cannot manipulate God to fulfill our desires exactly as laid out to Him, fasting moves God to fulfill His intended will over the matters in our lives. The devil does not want you or I fasting unto God - period - ever! Anyone thinking about fasting unto God is a serious potential threat to Satan?s dominion on this planet http//www.precious-testimonies.com/Exhortations/a-e/AwesomeBenefitsOfFastingPart1.htm
  • Allah's Bait??????????

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    from this verse and many others its about righteousness -or not doing idol worship ,and nothing about keeping a building clean and fresh. And as the people weren?t set right yet ? it?s the idol worshiping which needs to be cleansing out from the previous people and then set right. AGREED
  • Abraham saved Moses from slaughter.

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    nice rotfl
  • Need some clarification, please

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    228 How can you reject God when you were dead and He brought you to life? Then He makes you die, then He brings you to life, then to Him you return. I want to assume that the term "dead" in the first sentence is referring to before one is born. 234 And We said to the angels ?Yield to Adam,? so they yielded except for Satan, he refused and became arrogant, and became of the rejecters. 235 And We said ?O Adam, reside you and your mate in the paradise, and eat from it bountifully as you both wish, and do not approach this tree, else you will be of those who have wronged.? Who is "we?" Thanks for any help you can provide. The story is of the jews being destroyed twice, thus two deaths; 17.7 If ye did well, ye did well for yourselves; if ye did evil, (ye did it) against yourselves. So when the second of the warnings came to pass, (We permitted your enemies) to disfigure your faces, and to enter your Temple as they had entered it before, and to visit with destruction all that fell into their power. http//www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4352823?uid=3738032&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101109262771 peace
  • Except what Allah wills thee to forget ??

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    This is what is ensured about the Messenger that he will never be in this category. Know it that Allah the Exalted has created you people. Afterwards , He alienates/segregates you people However, there is someone living amongst you who is made to regressively return towards the relatively dependent-feeble of the period of life culminating at nethermost-non verbal infancy. The explanation-reason-effect of regression is that henceforth he might not trace/separate/locate/ acknowledge-retrieve knowledge of something, after having attained knowledge. It is a certain fact that Allah the Exalted is eternally the all-Knowing, eternally the dominant. Read about Alzheimer. http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=14947.msg139905#msg139905
  • Explain without Hadis

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    Salam to all, Thanks all of my friends who have helpe me to understand the Sura.
  • Surah : 109 - Al-Kafirun

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    Well, I can't believe my brother invested so time to come up with that nonsense LOL! In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful Say, "O you disbelievers. "I do not worship what you worship. "Nor do you worship what I worship. "Nor will I ever worship what you worship. "Nor will you ever worship what I worship. "To you is your religion, and to me is my religion."
  • A creature that the disbelievers will visit

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    Peace savage-carrot and Jack. The relationship between the "dabba" and the proof of the Koran is evident to me from many verses. Some verses are clear like " Well educated but crazy", " The witness from the children of Israel who witnessed the same in his scripture"... My understanding of many verses of the Koran are about the " messenger" and the proof he brings with GOD s authorisation. Remember it is GOD who teaches/explains... His book. Here are some examples 2366 ? My proofs ( that the Scripture is from GOD) have been presented to you, but you turned back on your heels 2367 ? You were too arrogant to accept them, and you defiantly disregarded them.? ( What proof? When??) 2368 ? Why do they not reflect on this Scripture? Do they not realise that they ( this 20 th century generation) have received something never attained by their parents?? ( Is there a Scientific/Mathematical proof ? How? ) 2369 ? Have they failed to recognise their messenger? ( The messenger of the Covenant -0f Malachi Chapter 3- And Of 381.) Is this why they are disregarding him.? ( When did he come? Who was he? A 20th Century messenger?) 2370 ? ( Some of those who have heard of him) Have they decided he is crazy? Indeed he has brought them the truth, but most of them hate the truth.? You might disagree, let us have your explanation of these verses.I would welcome your argument/proof/discussion. Peace
  • Why language is irrelevant!

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    Sorry to re-open an old topic, but my feelings are as such It's insulting to say that things can only be done in one language, etc. In my opinion, that is like limiting Allah. A creator that created us to live in different places, speak different tongues, and even have the ability to learn new languages can obviously understand a sincere prayer no matter what language. The Qu'ran wasn't created only for the Arabs, although many of them would tell us otherwise. Allah knows best. With Peace, Amina
  • Usury (riba) in the Qu'ran

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    Wa Salaams, You know, that is what I thought. I had seen the word usury in the Bible before, but when I look up the definition of the word it leans more toward taking advantage of people, not interest charged on money (because in that case even a late fee could be considered haraam). Thanks so much for explaining that to me...and the de-programming begins!!! Amina
  • Authenticating Quran

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    Hann Fair enough however i just want to comment on the manuscripts. there is some difference in manuscripts, how about hafs and warsh? Also the scripts of Arabic have developed/changed over time. Yes, right. But "The Quran" is not only a written book. At first, it's just a memorized doctrine. So if you give me a different recited(kiraat) and different meaning-recited Quran example, then i can say this The Sacred one is not an alphabet nor a sound. The Sacred one is doctrine/meaning. "....He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded" 1690 Peace.
  • How do you explain the following that mentions prophets prayers?

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    Obviously not 'contact prayer'. People who think of Muhammad as a path to God (i.e. as an interceder) will find that this does make sense as that. From the example in 7531/32 we can see that this verse implies 'support'. To slw is to go forward, make progress, create a reality. To 'yusalli' with the messenger means to help him move forward and attain the goals God set him. As a soul you can ONLY move forwards towards God or backwards towards evil. So the meaning of the verse is that some of the people think of it as a tax that they don't want to pay and thus hate the messenger for it. The others spend it in order to give momentum to the movement that establishes the commands of God on earth.
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    Does this mean that it is not a good translation? All I need to know is if it is good compared to some of the more mainstream ones.
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    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9599591.msg234462#msg234462
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    Mazhar, I hope you don't mind but I've replied to you in this thread http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9599777.510
  • do not ask God question

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    Salaam, I believe you were thinking of verse 5101, which goes like this O ye who believe! Ask not of things which, if they were made known unto you, would trouble you; but if ye ask of them when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made known unto you. Allah pardoneth this, for Allah is Forgiving, Clement. The above is Marmaduke Pickthall's translation. I hope that helps . Salaam. I understand this verse as this he's saying to don't ask about things that doesn't make sense to the human mind, or the mind cannot accept it, than because of our limits, we will definitaly find it a fairy tale or illogical, than we naturally deny it, or he's speaking about bad things, like, do not ask about bad things , if it comes, it will hurt you as people before you did Allah knows best
  • THEFT PUNISHMENT

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    I just thought of something...maybe someone mentioned it already but here goes... Ok, when someone says "give them a free hand" does it mean grow a hand in a laboratory and give it to them for free, literally a free hand? No, right, it means give them freedom right...so in that context...cut off their hand...means take away their freedom til they work to pay you back or return what they've stolen amirite? The law of the Quran is the proportionality law. The eye for ane eye and tooth for a tooth. The punsihment should always fit the crime. The hand for a hand. Its not meant to emphasize equity and proportionality rather than deterence as the Sects do which means harsh punishment to create a deterence. The Quran orders us to establish justice and not ever asked us to apply laws based on deterence. Proportionality is a principle in law which covers two distinct (although related) concepts. Within municipal (domestic) law it is used to convey the idea that the punishment of an offender should fit the crime. Under international humanitarian law governing the legal use of force in an armed conflict, proportionality and distinction are important factors in assessing military necessity. History The proportionality test was first developed in the High State Administrative Courts (Oberlandesgericht) in Germany in the late 19th century, to review actions by the police. The proportionality test originated systematically with the jurisprudence of the German Constitutional Court, the Bundesverfassungsgericht. European Union In European Union law there generally acknowledged to be four stages to a proportionality test, namely, there must be a legitimate aim for a measure the measure must be suitable to achieve the aim (potentially with a requirement of evidence to show it will have that effect) the measure must be necessary to achieve the aim, that there cannot be any less onerous way of doing it the measure must be reasonable, considering the competing interests of different groups at hand It is, however, often seen that the third and fourth criterion are often merged into one by the European Court of Justice, depending on the margin of discretion that the Court sees as being afforded to the member state. Examples are found in R (Seymour-Smith) v Secretary of State for Employment, where the ECJ points out that a member state has some discretion in the policies it pursues, surrounding unfair dismissal, in reducing unemployment. Further examples of the proportionality test are seen in Mangold v Helm and K?c?kdeveci v Swedex GmbH & Co KG. Municipal law Within law, the principle of proportional justice is used to describe the idea that the punishment of a certain crime should be in proportion to the severity of the crime itself. In practice, systems of law differ greatly on the application of this principle. In some systems, this was interpreted as lex talionis, (an eye for an eye). In others, it has led to a more restrictive manner of sentencing. For example, all European Union countries have accepted as a treaty obligation that no crime warrants the death penalty, whereas some other countries in the world do use it. In self defense cases, the amount of force employed by the defender must be proportionate to the threatened aggressive force. If deadly force is used to defend against non-deadly force, the harm inflicted by the actor (death or serious bodily harm) will be greater than the harm avoided (less than serious bodily harm). Even if deadly force is proportionate, its use must be necessary. Otherwise, unlawful conduct will only be justified when it involves the lesser harm of two harmful choices. If countering with non-deadly force or with no force at all avoids the threatened harm, defensive use of deadly force is no longer the lesser evil of only two choices. Alternatives involving still less societal harm are available. In United States Law, the United States Supreme Court proposed the Proportionality Doctrine in three cases during the 1980?s, namely Enmund v. Florida (1982), Solem v. Helm (1983) and Tison v. Arizona (1987), to clarify this key principle of proportionality within the Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause of the Eighth Amendment. The fundamental principle behind proportionality is that the punishment should fit the crime. In 1983, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that courts must do three things to decide whether a sentence is proportional to a specific crime 1.Compare the nature and gravity of the offense and the harshness of the penalty, 2.Compare the sentences imposed on other criminals in the same jurisdiction; i.e., whether more serious crimes are subject to the same penalty or to less serious penalties, and 3.Compare the sentences imposed for commission of the same crime in other jurisdictions. International humanitarian lawThe harm caused to civilians or civilian property must be proportional and not excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated by an attack on a military objective. Luis Moreno-Ocampo was the Chief Prosecutor at the International Criminal Court who investigated allegations of War Crimes during the 2003 invasion of Iraq. He published an open letter containing his findings; in a section titled "Allegations concerning War Crimes", he elucidates this use of proportionality Under international humanitarian law and the Rome Statute, the death of civilians during an armed conflict, no matter how grave and regrettable, does not in itself constitute a war crime. International humanitarian law and the Rome Statute permit belligerents to carry out proportionate attacks against military objectives, even when it is known that some civilian deaths or injuries will occur. A crime occurs if there is an intentional attack directed against civilians (principle of distinction) (Article 8(2)(b)(i)) or an attack is launched on a military objective in the knowledge that the incidental civilian injuries would be clearly excessive in relation to the anticipated military advantage (principle of proportionality) (Article 8(2)(b)(iv). Article 8(2)(b)(iv) criminalizes Intentionally launching an attack in the knowledge that such attack will cause incidental loss of life or injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects or widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment which would be clearly excessive in relation to the concrete and direct overall military advantage anticipated; Article 8(2)(b)(iv) draws on the principles in Article 51(5)(b) of the 1977 Additional Protocol I to the 1949 Geneva Conventions, but restricts the criminal prohibition to cases that are "clearly" excessive. The application of Article 8(2)(b)(iv) requires, inter alia, an assessment of (a) the anticipated civilian damage or injury; (b) the anticipated military advantage; (c) and whether (a) was "clearly excessive" in relation to (b). http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportionality_(law) The Quran calls it "qist and adl". Justice and equity. They go hand in hand. The punishment should always fit the crime and must be administered on the specific individual (la taziru wazirutu wizr ukhra). No one should bear trhe burden of another and no one should bear a burden greater than he beared on another person. 5.45. We ordained therein for them "Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (No better than) wrong-doers. 2.178-179 O ye who believe! the law of equality is prescribed to you in cases of murder the free for the free, the slave for the slave, the woman for the woman. But if any remission is made by the brother of the slain, then grant any reasonable demand, and compensate him with handsome gratitude, this is a concession and a Mercy from your Lord. After this whoever exceeds the limits shall be in grave penalty. In the Law of Equality there is (saving of) Life to you, o ye men of understanding; that ye may restrain yourselves ?If you punish, then punish with the like of that wherewith you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, indeed it is better for the patient. Endure you patiently. Your patience is not except through the help of Allah." (16126-127)