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http//www.youtube.com/profile?user=Kabane52 Peace, Please watch these videos. Theyr really quite amazing. Although the kid is still a Christian he has a rational mind and has accepted evolution to be true. He really gives it to creationists. GOD Bless!

http//www.newscientist.com/channel/health/mg19325876.600-tackling-depression-with-ketamine.html Article Preview Tackling depression with ketamine 20 January 2007 Maia Szalavitz Magazine issue 2587 Best known as a club drug, ketamine seems somehow able to jolt people out of severe depression. New Scientist investigates "FOR MANY, it was a huge, obvious effect," says psychiatrist John Krystal. "One of the patients said, 'Don't give me those old medications, I want this again'." Krystal, a professor at Yale University, is talking about the time he gave seven severely depressed patients ketamine, a mind-blowing drug developed as an anaesthetic but better known as a club drug. It was a long shot, but the results were astonishing. Though most of the patients found the ketamine experience itself unpleasant, once it wore off they had a far better feeling the disabling and suicidal depression they had lived with for years had vanished. Krystal's pioneering experiment happened in the late 1990s, but now researchers at the US National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) in Bethesda, Maryland, have repeated the study and the results have got psychiatrists, neuroscientists and drug companies buzzing. An antidepressant that acts in hours rather than weeks ... I have the full article in Word format. PM if interested. Peace, Tay

Peace all, The saying that "Evoluton never knows where it is going" is only true relative to our current understanding otherwise sincethe whole universe is determnistic in nature and if one wereable to calculate all those factors, then one could exactly tell where, when and what type of creatures woul evolve at a certain place in a certain time. Most people incluing myself get confused on this point. It takes some though to figure this out. Ultimately one can well argue, and i surely do, that GOD fixed all the contstants of the universe in such a way that would allow creatures to appear at their particular time as we see them today or as weve discovered them passing by in the past. GOD Bless!

Peace, Many have the misconception that only the fittest creatures survive in the process of evolution. This is out correct. There is a lot of corporation present in nautre where more fit creatures help the lessfit ones become fit as well and so they continue to survive in the enviroment. So id say as evolutinary scientists "Jim Strayer" puts it as "Surival of the fit" rather than "survial of the fittest". There are many species in nauture which give up their own lives to help others to help their survival. Delphins have been shown to put themslves into dnger in order to help humans for examples. That is also the reason intelligent humans just dont let disabled ppl go down the drain. Evolution thus includes both categories, violent creatures and sympathetic ones. GOD Bless!

Peace, http//www.free-minds.org/articles/satan/jinn.htm I just came across this article by bro "layth" while typing in "evoltion of jinn" at yahoo. This seems to be exactly in line what ive been thinking all along and id definitely recommend you to read the article. GOD Bless!

Peace, I still remember when i sued to favor Dr. Kent Hovind regarding "creationism". First he says that one cannot fuse past irron. Well sure we as humans in the lab cannot do that but that doesnt mean it cant happen in outer space. Another one the claims of young earth creationists is that "uranium could not have evolved from hydrogen". Kent said that scienstists say one gets the higher elements with fusion in stars so which came first, the stars or the elements, the chicken and the egg problem, as he calls it. Now i realize how incredibly stupid these remarks of "creationists" are. Ofcourse the elements evolved, first to form stars and then onto higher elements. There is no chickcen and egg problem whtsoever. The stars came first, as hydrogen atoms enter a lower enthropy state from their originally high one, ultimately fusing, creating a lot of energy and a new element helium. Once we have enough such connections of atoms i.e. basic star formation complete, then it goes on to higher elements. The entire process is detailed here http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_evolution GOD Bless!

Peace and greetings, I previously posted wormholes mentioned in Quran and there was even a debate about Quantum mechanics versus Einstien's Relativity in the post criticism of mecca and kaaba about an argument on space and time. Some people accused me of unreliable information simply because i gave some of the references from wikipedia. Now I am giving referenes from the Official NASA website and mainstream reliable scientific sources for latest developments in the theory of relatvity. General Relativity Survives Gruelling Pulsar Test Einstein At Least 99.95 Percent Right. Science Daily ? An international research team led by Prof. Michael Kramer of the University of Manchester's Jodrell Bank Observatory, UK, has used three years of observations of the "double pulsar", a unique pair of natural stellar clocks which they discovered in 2003, to prove that Einstein's theory of general relativity - the theory of gravity that displaced Newton's - is correct to within a staggering 0.05%. Their results are published on the14th September in the journal Science and are based on measurements of an effect called the Shapiro Delay. http//www.sciencedaily.com/images/2006/09/060914094623.jpg Here's a depiction of the double pulsar system currently being tracked by the international team of radio astronomers who discovered it, including Dr. Duncan Lorimer and Dr. Maura McLaughlin of West Virginia University. The pulsars are the remnants of two massive stars that burned out by way of supernova explosions. They measure just 12 miles across, but each weighs more than our own Sun. Note the "bend" in the space-time fabric from the sheer mass of the two bodies. (Image courtesy of West Virginia University) The double pulsar system, PSR J0737-3039A and B, is 2000 light-years away in the direction of the constellation Puppis. It consists of two massive, highly compact neutron stars, each weighing more than our own Sun but only about 20 km across, orbiting each other every 2.4 hours at speeds of a million kilometres per hour. Separated by a distance of just a million kilometres, both neutron stars emit lighthouse-like beams of radio waves that are seen as radio "pulses" every time the beams sweep past the Earth. It is the only known system of two detectable radio pulsars orbiting each other. Due to the large masses of the system, they provide an ideal opportunity to test aspects of General Relativity Gravitational redshift the time dilation causes the pulse rate from one pulsar to slow when near to the other, and vice versa. Shapiro delay The pulses from one pulsar when passing close to the other are delayed by the curvature of space-time. Observations provide two tests of General Relativity using different parameters. Gravitational radiation and orbital decay The two co-rotating neutron stars lose energy due to the radiation of gravitational waves. This results in a gradual spiralling in of the two stars towards each other until they will eventually coalesce into one body. By precisely measuring the variations in pulse arrival times using three of the world's largest radio telescopes, the Lovell Telescope at Jodrell Bank, the Parkes radio-telescope in Australia, and the Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope in West Virginia, USA, the researchers found the movement of the stars to exactly follow Einstein's predictions. "This is the most stringent test ever made of General Relativity in the presence of very strong gravitational fields -- only black holes show stronger gravitational effects, but they are obviously much more difficult to observe", says Kramer. Since both pulsars are visible as radio emitting clocks of exceptional accuracy, it is possible to measure their distances from their common centre of gravity. "As in a balanced see-saw, the heavier pulsar is closer to the centre of mass, or pivot point, than the lighter one and so allows us to calculate the ratio of the two masses", explains co-author Ingrid Stairs, an assistant professor at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada. "What's important is that this mass ratio is independent of the theory of gravity, and so tightens the constraints on General Relativity and any alternative gravitational theories." adds Maura McLaughlin, an assistant professor at West Virginia University in Morgantown, WV, USA. Though all the independent tests available in the double pulsar system agree with Einstein's theory, the one that gives the most precise result is the time delay, known as the Shapiro Delay, which the signals suffer as they pass through the curved space-time surrounding the two neutron stars. It is close to 90 millionths of a second and the ratio of the observed and predicted values is 1.0001 +/- 0.0005 - a precision of 0.05%. A number of other relativistic effects predicted by Einstein can also be observed. "We see that, due to its mass, the fabric of space-time around a pulsar is curved. We also see that the pulsar clock runs slower when it is deeper in the gravitational field of its massive companion, an effect known as "time dilation". A key result of the observations is that the pulsar's separation is seen to be shrinking by 7mm/day. Einstein's theory predicts that the double pulsar system should be emitting gravitational waves - ripples in space-time that spread out across the Universe at the speed of light. "These waves have yet to be directly detected ", points out team member Prof. Dick Manchester from the Australia Telescope National Facility, "but, as a result, the double pulsar system should lose energy causing the two neutron stars to spiral in towards each other by precisely the amount that we have observed - thus our observations give an indirect proof of the existence of gravitational waves." Michael Kramer concludes; "The double pulsar is really quite an amazing system. It not only tells us a lot about general relativity, but it is a superb probe of the extreme physics of super-dense matter and strong magnetic fields but is also helping us to understand the complex mechanisms that generate the pulsar's radio beacons." He concludes; "We have only just begun to exploit its potential!" Note This story has been adapted from a news release issued by Particle Physics & Astronomy Research Council. The following is information from NASA's official website . http//www.nasa.gov/missions/science/gpb_tests.html NASA Puts Einstein to the Test 10.26.04 Was Einstein right? NASA is gathering proof 88 years later. To test this claim in a way never done before, NASA launched the Gravity Probe B (GP-B) mission in April 2004. If all goes well with this satellite experiment, we should know by mid-2006 whether Einstein's theory of curved spacetime is a true description of our universe. Einstein's theory, more formally known as the Theory of General Relativity, states that any mass, such as the Earth, warps space and time around it. And any object traveling near the Earth must follow this curve or warp in spacetime. The result is that the object falls toward the Earth. Newton claimed the force of gravity caused this effect; Einstein claimed it was the warp of spacetime around the Earth. http//www.nasa.gov/images/content/67634main_GPB4_330x248.jpgImage right Artist concept of Gravity Probe B spacecraft in orbit around the Earth (NASA/MSFC) A second, and even more remarkable, Einstein prediction is that the spinning Earth should twist spacetime around with it -- an effect called "frame-dragging." Any object in space near the Earth should respond to that twist of spacetime by turning with it. This is the principle behind the Gravity Probe B mission -- watching an object in space to see if it responds to "frame-dragging" caused by the Earth's rotation. Inside this 21-foot-tall satellite, now orbiting 400 miles above the Earth, are four spinning spheres, called gyroscopes. At the beginning of the experiment, a telescope on-board the satellite and the spin axes of the four gyroscopes were all pointed directly at a distant "guide" star, named IM Pegasi. Throughout the experiment, the spacecraft's telescope remains pointed at IM Pegasi, providing a constant reference line for measuring any turn in the pointing direction of the gyroscopes' spin axes. If Einstein's prediction is correct, the twisting spacetime near the Earth should cause the gyroscopes' spin axes to turn away from this reference line by the very tiny angle of 1/100,000th of a degree over the course of a year. To measure this miniscule turn, Gravity Probe B created four near-perfect spheres. Each gyroscope is less than three 10-millionths-of-an-inch from perfect roundness. They are so close to perfect, in fact, that they are listed in the 2005 edition of the Guinness Book of World Records as roundest objects ever made in the world. The spheres spin in near-isolation in a near-vacuum, near absolute zero, suspended inside a housing, protected from any magnetic, electric or solar forces. In fact, most of this experiment uses one-of-a-kind record-setting equipment. Gravity Probe B will be the longest space mission kept near absolute zero -- 450?F below zero for 12 months. It can sense any change in the gyroscopes' position to within one 10-millionth of a degree. It controls the motion of the satellite with thrusters that produce forces softer than a human breath. "It's been a long, amazing road to get to this point," said Rex Geveden, deputy director of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala., which manages the Gravity Probe B program for NASA. "When Gravity Probe B was first proposed more than 40 years ago, the technology required for this experiment did not yet exist. At least nine new technologies had to be invented and perfected." If Gravity Probe B's results are consistent with Einstein's theory, it will help solidify our understanding of phenomena like black holes and quasar jets. If, however, its results are not consistent with the predictions of General Relativity, it will require a significant revision of our theory of the fundamental structure of the universe. Was Einstein right? After two billion spins of the gyroscopes and 7,000 orbits of the Earth, Gravity Probe B should know the answer. For more information about Gravity Probe B, visit http//www.gravityprobeb.com/ Following is the latest update on gravity probe B mission of NASA http//einstein.stanford.edu/ STATUS UPDATE AS OF 22 DECEMBER 2006 GP-B DATA ANALYSIS & RESULTS ANNOUNCEMENT STATUS Note We've received several inquiries about a news story on GP-B in the current issue of Nature (Vol. 444, 21-28 December 2006, pp. 978-979). You'll find our response in this month's GP-B Mission News below. During the 50-week science phase of the GP-B mission and the 7-week instrument calibration phase, which lasted from August 2004-September 2005, we collected over a terabyte of experimental data. Analysis of this data has been steadily progressing through a 3-phase plan, each subsequent phase building on those preceding it. In Phase I, which lasted from the end of September 2005 through February 2006, the analysis focused on a short-term, day-by-day or even orbit-by-orbit, examination of the data. The overall goals of this phase were to optimize the data analysis routines, calibrate out instrumentation effects, and produce initial "gyro spin axis orientation of the day" estimates for each gyro individually. At this stage, the focus was on individual gyro performance; there was no attempt to combine or compare the results of all four gyros, nor was there even an attempt to estimate the gyro drift rates. Phase II, which lasted from March-August, 2006, focused on understanding and compensating for certain long-term systematic effects in the data that spanned weeks or months. During this phase, the team was accurately able to model the time-varying polhode paths of the four gyros, as reported in last month's GP-B Mission News story, yielding increased precision for gyro precession rates over short intervals. This modeling of the gyro polhode behavior plus the development of a geometric interpretation of the data has enabled the team to make significant improvements in the precision of the analysis. Phase II concluded with the 15th meeting of our GP-B Science Advisory Committee (SAC) here at Stanford on 8-9 September 2006. During this important meeting, our data analysis team presented a complete progress report to the SAC. As we come to the end of 2006, we are well into Phase III, in which the data from all four gyros is being integrated over the entire experiment. Now that the gyro polhode behavior is well understood, we are able to focus on identifying and addressing some subtle sources of noise and interference that are buried in the data, along with the relativity signals. During this final analysis phase, we are continuing to pursue both geometric and algebraic interpretations of the data, which is enabling us to make further improvements in the accuracy of the results. The Phase III results will be relative to the position of our guide star, IM Pegasi, which changed continually throughout the experiment. This has been measured on our behalf by the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA). Thus, the final step in the analysis will be to combine our gyro spin axis orientation results with data mapping the proper motion of IM Pegasi relative to the unchanging position of a distant quasar. At the conclusion of phase III, playing the role of our own harshest critic, our science team will perform a careful and thorough final review of the analysis and results, checking and cross-checking each aspect to ensure the soundness of our procedures and the validity of our outcomes. We will then turn the analysis and results over to the SAC, which has been closely monitoring our experimental methods, data analysis procedures, and progress for the past eight years, to obtain its independent review. Moreover, we will seek independent reviews from a number of international experts. In addition to analyzing the data, members of our team are now in the process of preparing scientific and engineering papers for publication in 2007, including the reporting of the first results of this historic experiment at the American Physical Society (APS) Meeting in Jacksonville, FL on 14-17 April 2007. We have also begun discussions with NASA to plan a formal public announcement just prior to the APS meeting. GP-B SPACECRAFT & MISSION STATUS The GP-B space vehicle and payload continue to remain in good health. All active subsystems, including solar arrays/electrical power, Experiment Control Unit (ECU), flight computer, star trackers, magnetic sensing system (MSS) and magnetic torque rods, gyro suspension system (GSS), and telescope detectors, are performing nominally. During the past few weeks, we completed final testing of the hibernation configuration and we have now ?tucked in the spacecraft for a long winter's nap.? We are continuing to monitor the health status of the spacecraft on a weekly basis and archiving the status data, but we no longer performing any significant operations on the vehicle or its payload. Because it is now in hibernation, there is no reason to continue reporting detailed status information. The United States Air Force Academy (USAFA) is planning to conduct training for staff and cadets on the operation of the spacecraft during the month of January. Members of our GP-B Mission Operations Team will continue to support the USAFA to help them get their Mission Operations Center up and running. As we conclude a very active and productive 2006, all of us here at GP-B would like to express our sincere appreciation to everyone who has been following this program--both on our Web site and via our email status updates. We look forward to sharing our experimental results with you in 2007. Until then, we wish you a joyous holiday season and a very happy new year!

Peace all, Those who mock evolution, BOTH MACRO AND MICRO, and outright deny it, the prior of which I myself once did, are overlooking a great marvellous and wonderful feature. On the other hand those who think of evolution as being random have taken up the other extreme which can be easily refuted by the fine tune of the universe which requires exact constants in order for all this to develop. Infact the process of evolution and common ancestry gives me another powerful evidence that GOD is ONE. Now there can and should be almost no doubt just looking at this process alone as we all came from one unit of creation just like the big bang which is also states in 2130 of the Quran. Now there remained only one problem namely ?vestigial organs?. Why would an intelligent designer create things/creatures with those. Well I believe that is because wanted to, yes indeed, He wanted to leave a TRAIL OF ANCESTRIAL EVIDENCE TO MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR ALL THINGS ARE RELATED AND THERE BE NO DOUBT HE IS ONE. Moreover those vestigial organs are gradually disappearing so the creature is adjusting WITH TIME. Note that the Quran mentions ?GOD is with those who have PATIENCE?, a very important key element. GOD wanted a sequence and a particular time period for things to happen and adjust and my given reasons seem to make very good sense. Thus from now on the scientific expression for GOD in English should be ?Intelligent Evolution Controller(IEC)? as opposed to ?Intelligent Designer(ID)? since by design we mostly associate a ?piece by piece? assembly which ofcourse evidence has shown is not the case. So I praise GOD right here for inspiring me to get to know this wonderful concept. GOD Bless!

Peace all, http//www.netpets.com/cats/reference/info/catevolution.html Very interesting article shoing all the various processes from sea organisms to reptiles to mammals and finally the cat branch. GOD Bless!

(from an interview with Deepak Chopra) Look at the cells and how they function, you see that each cell has higher awareness. It is doing what it does to maintain the welfare of the rest of the body. The stomach cell's not saying, why should I digest food for the heart and the brain? And the brain doesn't say, why should I regulate the activity of the stomach? So they are inseparably interdependent. They have higher awareness. Each cell has creativity because every time there is a challenge to the body, the body has to come up with a creative solution. Each cell knows how to commune with other cells instantly, both locally and non-locally, each cell is bonded to every other cell, each cell practices what it does with maximum efficiency?it never hoards anything. Each cell obeys the laws of giving and receiving, each cell has awareness of what's happening in the body, and each cell knows the secret of immortality, because even as it dies, it passes on everything it knows to the next generation of cells. So if you want to look at the human body as an example of consciousness, it's a direct reflection. Consciousness conceives, governs, constructs, and becomes the activity of the body. And in every human body, or for that matter, in every biological organism, there is an inner intelligence that reflects the wisdom of the universe and is, in fact, the ultimate and supreme genius. .................. The fear of death comes from limited awareness. As long as you think of your real self as the person you are, then of course you're going to be fearful of death. But what is a person? A person is a pattern of behavior, of a larger awareness. You know, the two-year-old dies before the three-year-old shows up, the three-year-old dies before the teenager shows up. So the real you is neither the perceiver, nor the object of perception, but the real you is that formless spirit that is constantly evolving and sometimes even taking quantum leaps of evolution and expressing itself as both the perceiver and the object of perception. And if you can shift your internal reference point from your skin-encapsulated ego to that larger domain of awareness, then you will find that it's your ticket to freedom?that you do not need to fear death because you're already dying every moment to the past. The fear of death is the fear of the unknown, and yet, the fact is, we live and breathe and move in the unknown all the time. The unknown is from this moment onwards?you're already living there. You have the pretend game that you're living in the known, but the known doesn't exist anymore, it's already gone. Everything you know is about the past. So you have to both intellectually and experientially be willing to embrace uncertainly, ambiguity, and step into the unknown. The known is a prison of past conditioning. The unknown is always a fresh field of possibilities. for the full interview... http//www.beliefnet.com/story/154/story_15474_1.html

Does anyone here make compost and grow plants? And happen to be near the sea? I have to ask you a favor if so. It could turn out to be profitable and it based on some scientific principles. Please PM me, if so. Godbless, Anwar

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The name "Allah" which is oftenly called "the arabic name for God" can not be other then the first name given to The God of man. Here i will explain why If we look at the sounds in this name we find first the letter "A", A is the first letter in many if not most "Alphabets" because it is the easiest one to make, all one needs to do is open the mouth, breath out and use his or her vocal cords. When a baby is born the first sound it makes is when it opens it's mouth and breaths out while using the vocal cords. It became a letter once it was first conciously made by the first concious man whom we call Adam. Adam would not use the first letter he conciously made to describe anything or anyone else except Him whom he regarded the most important One, his God, Him whom he considers above him and all else, to describe this he pointed up with his tongue in his mouth after pronouncing the A and thus he got the "LL" sound, then when his lungs nearly ran out of air he dropped his tongue and got the "a" and the "hh" sound (the hh sound is also what you hear when one dies, his last breath). In Arabic the "Ha" is the last letter in the alphabet, logically so. Allah A, The first (letter) LL, Up (above all and everything) A (the first) H (the last) A faithful person when he dies will not wish to mentioned any other name then his God, with his last breath God would sound more like "Goddahh". A is what we come in the world with(the baby at brith and it's first cry) LL is what a person of faith reffers himself to and holds on to (He who is up, above all and everyone) A The first H The Last. (the sound we make when we breath out our last breath in this world)

EVOLUTION BY NATURAL SELECTION, IS IT A FACT ? THE KORAN AND EVOLUTION visit http//rationalreality.50webs.com/evol.htm for discussion with the author visit http//rationalreality.forumsplace.com/post-48.html#48 salam.

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http//members.aol.com/silence004/interest.htm "The purpose of this paper is to analyze using modern knowledge and objective standards what the effect of interest is on the economy. The motivation being Koranic verses which deal with interest and other verses in the Koran which give economic guidelines. A supplementary purpose served by this paper would be an objective testing of the Koran based on modern scientific knowledge, in the field of economics."

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http//www.visual-evolution.com/images/content/thumbnails/newtail.jpg Crowds are flocking to Indian temples to see a Muslim baby with a 'tail' who is believed to be the reincarnation of a Hindu god.... http//www.visual-evolution.com/tails.htm STOCKHOLM, Sweden -- A shocking new report reveals that a large portion of the world's population is secretly sporting tails! "It's Earth's dirty little secret. Of the 6 billion beings on this planet, nearly 12 million people were born with tails," says a prominent biologist and neonatologist who asked to be called "Dr. X" because he is so embarrassed by the two-foot tail that juts out from his own behind. Dr. X says that mankind's "missing link" to a primate past has been hanging from our rear ends for centuries. "No one wants to come out and admit that tails are as common as they are," says Dr. X, who has conducted a 14-year study on what the medical world regards as a quirky birth defect. "Once it was regarded as a sign of the devil; something too bizarre to allow to exist and many infants throughout the world were put to death after being born with these tails. For others, though, it's become a source of secret pride and they've gone to great lengths to keep the tails hidden." The doctor traveled worldwide seeking out "Tail Tribes" -- groups of people who still have their tails and associate with others with the same twitchy trait. "It's basically a secret society. They have parties where they compete with tricks like picking up unusual objects with their tails. But they go to great lengths to conceal their tails from non-tailed humans. There are ways to spot them if you're a careful observer," says Dr. X. "They shun public showers, swimming and any activity that might give them away. They avoid wearing shorts, as the tail can slip down and the tip can be seen poking out the pant leg. You can sometimes see small indentations in seat cushions and office chairs if they've been sitting down for any length of time." News of Dr. X's findings has rocked both the biological as well as religious worlds where any evolutionary link between mankind and monkeys is disputed. "Why would God give man a tail unless it was the mark of a beast?" declares Rob Hollidoy, a prominent Christian psychologist and family values researcher. "It's unclean and violates any sense of common decency. It's Satan, not God, who is responsible for this travesty of nature." Hollidoy feels strongly that any person with a tail should have the appendage amputated. http//www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/science/47083

Salam, Walt Brown received a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering from Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) where he was a National Science Foundation Fellow. He has taught college courses in physics, mathematics, and computer science. Brown is a retired full colonel (Air Force), West Point graduate, and former Army ranger and paratrooper. Assignments during his 21 years in the military included Director of Benet Research, Development, and Engineering Laboratories in Albany, New York; tenured associate professor at the U.S. Air Force Academy; and Chief of Science and Technology Studies at the Air War College. For much of his life, Walt Brown was an evolutionist, but after many years of study, he became convinced of the scientific validity of creation and a global flood. Since retiring from the military in 1980, Dr. Brown has been the Director of the Center for Scientific Creation and has worked full time in research, writing, and speaking on origins. http//www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/IntheBeginningTOC.html Here ull find all answers 2 the false n misleading theory of evolution. GOD Bless!

Salam, I talked 2 Dr. Kent 2day n asked him whether he cld hold a debate on the forum or not. He himself cannot coz he doesnt have much time just as i suspected. He has 2 go out n speak in a Church even 2night. But if u wld like 2 call him plz do so. He also gave me the name of another person who might be willing 2 debate namely Walt Brown at www.creationscience.com GOD Bless!