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  • Thinking about intelligent design

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    Examples from Quran; The Heifer (Al-Baqarah) 164-164. Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth; in the alternation of the night and the day; in the sailing of the ships through the ocean for the profit of mankind; in the rain which Allah Sends down from the skies, and the life which He gives therewith to an earth that is dead; in the beasts of all kinds that He scatters through the earth; in the change of the winds, and the clouds which they trail like their slaves between the sky and the earth;- (Here) indeed are Signs for a people that are wise. The Family Of ?mr?n (Al-?mr?n) Behold! In the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day,- there are indeed Signs for men of understanding,- Men who celebrate the praises of Allah, standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides, and contemplate the (wonders of) creation in the heavens and the earth, (with the thought) "Our Lord! Not for naught Hast Thou created (all) this! Glory to Thee! Give us salvation from the Chastisement of the Fire." Bowing the Knee (Al-J?thiya) And in the creation of yourselves and the fact that animals are scattered (through the earth), are Signs for those of assured Faith. The Overwhelming Event (Al-G?shiya) Do they not look at the Camels, how they are made?- And at the Sky, how it is raised high?- And at the Mountains, how they are fixed firm?- And at the Earth, how it is spread out? The Dominion (Al-Mulk) He Who created the seven heavens one above another no want of proportion wilt thou see in the Creation of the Most Gracious. So turn thy vision again seest thou any flaw? Again turn thy vision a second time (thy) vision will come back to thee dull and discomfited, in a state worn out. The Heights (Al-Ar?f) Do they see nothing in the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and all that Allah hath created? (Do they not see) that it may well be that their terms is nigh drawing to an end? In what message after this will they then believe? The Criterion (Al-Furq?n) That with it We may give life to a dead land, and slake the thirst of things We have created,- cattle and men in great numbers. The Ants (An-Naml) See they not that We have made the Night for them to rest in and the Day to give them light? Verily in this are Signs for any people that believe! The Moon (Al-Qamar) Verily, all things have We created in proportion and measure. The Inevitable Event (Al-W?qi?) It is We Who have created you why will ye not witness the Truth? The Fig (At-T?n) We have indeed created man in the best of moulds, The (Great) News (An-Nabaa) And the mountains as pegs? And created you in pairs, And made your sleep for rest, And made the night as a covering, And made the day as a means of subsistence? And (have We not) built over you the seven firmaments, And placed (therein) a blazing lamp? And do We not send down from the clouds water in abundance, That We may produce therewith corn and vegetables, And gardens of luxurious growth? The Spider (Al-?nkab?t) See they not how Allah originates creation, then repeats it truly that is easy for Allah. Say "Travel through the earth and see how Allah did originate creation; so will Allah produce a later creation for Allah has power over all things. The Prophets (Al-Anbiy?a) Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? And ye certainly know already the first form of creation why then do ye not take heed? See ye the seed that ye sow in the ground? Is it ye that cause it to grow, or are We the Cause? Were it Our Will, We could make it broken orts, and ye would be left in wonderment, (Saying), "We are indeed left with debts (for nothing) "Indeed we are deprived" See ye the water which ye drink? Do ye bring it down (in rain) from the cloud or do We? Were it Our Will, We could make it saltish (and unpalatable) then why do ye not give thanks? See ye the Fire which ye kindle? Is it ye who grow the tree which feeds the fire, or do We grow it? We have made it a reminder and an article of comfort and convenience for the denizens of deserts. Then glorify the name of thy Lord, the Supreme! Furthermore I swear by the setting of the Stars,- And that is indeed a mighty adjuration if ye but knew,- The Romans (Ar-R?m) And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the variations in your languages and your colors verily in that are Signs for those who know. The Groups (Az-Zumar) He created you (all) from a single person then created, of like nature, his mate; and He sent down for you eight head of cattle in pairs He creates you, in the wombs of your mothers, in stages, one after another, in three veils of darkness. Such is Allah, your Lord and Cherisher to Him belongs (all) dominion. There is no god but He then how are ye turned away (from your true Lord)? The Believer (Al-M?min) Assuredly the creation of the heavens and the earth is a greater (matter) than the creation of men Yet most men know not. The Mount (At-T?r) Were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators? The Pilgrimage (Al-Hajj) O mankind! if ye have a doubt about the Resurrection, (consider) that We created you out of dust, then out of sperm, then out of a leech-like clot, then out of a morsel of flesh, partly formed and partly unformed, in order that We may manifest (Our power) to you; and We cause whom We will to rest in the wombs for an appointed term, then do We bring you out as babes, then (foster you) that ye may reach your age of full strength; and some of you are called to die, and some are sent back to the feeblest old age, so that they know nothing after having known (much), and (further), thou seest the earth barren and lifeless, but when We pour down rain on it, it is stirred (to life), it swells, and it puts forth every kind of beautiful growth (in pairs). Jonah (Y?nus) Verily, in the alternation of the night and the day, and in all that Allah hath created, in the heavens and the earth, are Signs for those who fear Him. The Winds that Scatter (Az-Z?riy?t) And of every thing We have created pairs that ye may reflect. Y?-S?n And the Sun runs unto a resting place that is the decree of (Him), the Exalted in Might, the All-Knowing. The Spider (Al-?nkab?t) And such are the Parables We set forth for mankind, but only those understand them who have knowledge. Those Sent Forth (Al-Mursal?t) Then when the stars become dim; (dies of stars-like black holes) Light (An-N?r) Seest thou not that Allah makes the clouds move gently, then joins them together, then makes them into a heap? - then wilt thou see rain issue forth from their midst. And He sends down from the sky mountain masses (of clouds) wherein is hail He strikes therewith whom He pleases and He turns it away from whom He pleases, the vivid flash of its lightning well-nigh blinds the sight. Yasin Doth not man see that it is We Who created him from sperm? Yet behold! he (stands forth) as an open adversary! And he makes comparisons for Us, and forgets his own (origin and) Creation he says, "Who can give life to (dry) bones and decomposed ones (at that)?" Say, "He will give them life Who created them for the first time! For He fully knows all!- "The same Who produces for you fire out of the green tree, when behold! ye kindle therewith (your own fires)! "Is not He Who created the heavens and the earth able to create the like thereof?" - Yea, indeed! for He is the Creator Supreme, of skill and knowledge (infinite)! Regards http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/2011/07/thinking-about-intelligent-design.html
  • found something i guess

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    as usual i was seeking the answers of some of my questions.. suddenly i encounter this page http//www.newmessage.org/gods-messenger although i decide to study it further and he atleast try to attempt the very basic and simple questions regarding the God as per our age and technology.. i opened a thread few days ago https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609599.msg405987#msg405987 asking questions from people but it seems either people are not interested or they are afraid of giving such answers becoz i have similar situation two years ago but slowly and slowly i decide to get out of shell whatever shell which is obstructing my reason and logic .. first of all whenever i want to ask these questions the inner afraid overcome to me .. so i can understand the one who try to attempt these questions will think twice .. becoz as soon we hear the word "GOD" the mechanism of mind never wanted to ask , think, reflect upon the most fundamental questions of life which is a part of our real story.. no body really want to live in suspence.. ? our life/origin and everything started from suspense/mystery will end/was ended in suspense/mystery will continue in suspense/mystery.. lets solve little bit parts of this mystery.. (luckily or unluckily we exist and we have conscience/feelings) peace God bless you all
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  • My Rab

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    Salaamun alaykum, Huwa (He is) Al-Lahu Al-Rrahmanu Al-Hayyu Al-Awwalu Al-Akhiru Al-Ththahiru Al-Batinu Al-3aleemu Al-Hakeemu Al-3aliyyu Al3atheemu Al-3aliyyu Al-Kabeeru Al-3azeezu Al3aleemu Al-3azeezu Al-Ghaffaru Al-3azeezu Al-Hakeemu Al-3azeezu Al-Rraheemu Al-Barru Al-Rraheemu Al-Fattahu Al-3aleemu Al-Ghafooru Al-Rraheemu Al-Ghafooru Al-Wadoodu Al-Ghaniyyu Al-Hameedu Al-Hakeemu Al-3aleemu Al-Hakeemu Al-Khabeeru Al-Haqqu Al-Mubeenu Al-Hayyu Al-Qayyoomu Al-Khallaqu Al-3aleemu Al-Lahu Al-3azeezu Al-Hakeemu Al-Lahu Al-Khaliqu Al-Bario Al-Musawwiru Al-Lahu Al-Maliku Al-Haqqu Al-Lahu Al-Ssamadu Al-Lahu Al-Wahidu Al-Qahharu Al-Lateefu Al-Khabeeru Al-Maliku Al-Quddoosu Al-Ssalamu Al-Muminu Al-Muhayminu Al-3azeezu Al-Jabbaru Al-Mutakabbiru Al-Qawiyyu Al-3azeezu Al-Rraheemu Al-Ghafooru Al-Rrahmanu Al-Rraheemu Al-Ssamee3u Al-3aleemu Al-Ssamee3u Al-Baseeru Al-Ttawwabu Al-Rraheemu Al-Wahidu Al-Qahharu Al-Waliyyu Al-Hameedu hail Huwa (He is) Rabbee Rabbakum Rabbu abaikumu alawwaleena Rabbi alnnasi Rabbu al3alameena Rabbu kulli shayin Rabbi alardi Rabbu alssamawati alssab3i Rabbi alssamawati Rabbu alssamawati waalardi Rabbu alssamawati waalardi wama baynahuma Rabbi al3arshi Rabbu al3arshi al3atheemi Rabbu al3arshi alkareemi Rabbu almashriqayni Rabbu almaghribayni Rabbu almashariqi Rabbu almashriqi waalmaghribi Rabbu almashriqi waalmaghribi wama baynahuma Rabbi alfalaqi Rabbu alshshi3ra Rabbi al3izzati hail Salaam and may Allah guides us to Him pr Bender To be continued inshaAllah.
  • A review of verses 2:62 and 3:85

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    A review of verses 262 and 385 The explanation below is an attempt to answer a question raised regarding any apparent contradiction between the above two verses. Note Before attempting an explanation of any verse of the Qur?an there are certain rules one must adhere to Firstly, the Qur?an must not be viewed as a compilation of individual injunctions and exhortations but as one integral whole that is, as an exposition of an ethical doctrine in which every verse and sentence has an intimate bearing on other verses and sentences, all of them clarifying and amplifying one another. Consequently, its real meaning can be grasped only if we correlate every one of the statements with what has been stated elsewhere in its pages, and try to explain its ideas by means of frequent cross references, always subordinating the particular to the general and the incidental to the intrinsic. Whenever this rule is faithfully followed, we realise that the Qu?ran is ? in the words of Muhammad Abduh ? ?its own best commentry?1. Keeping this in mind one can then attempt the explanation of the two verses, to see if there is any apparent contradiction between them. Read more.... http//www.astudyofquran.org/web/index.php?id=100,0,0,1,0,0
  • Channeling

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    To extend the RA thread (http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9601288.0), here is something else Source http//forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=8562 I love religions, in general, I dont know why, maybe I like God, maybe I dont, maybe I love knowledge, or maybe my soul yearns for it. So I did some research, and took my mind thousands and thousands of years back, and I found myself in a strange place, within a strange religion. I stepped into a bright sunny day; it was the year 1900 BCE, in the second millennium. I saw a man, Im sure he was holy, because he was preaching, and there were people surrounding him. They called him Zoroaster, and his religion was Zoroastrianism. They worshiped a great Supreme Being and Creator called Ahura Mazda. The mans name was Zoroaster, from what I heard from the locals, and he claimed that he had a vision one day at the age of 30. His story was that he went into the Daiti River to draw water for a Haoma ceremony. His vision was that he saw a shining figure, which led him to the presence of Ahura Mazda. In there, he was taught the cardinal principles of the Good Religion. As a result of this vision that he had, he felt that he was chosen to spread and preach the religion. But the people of that vicinity worshiped many gods called daevas, along with three other greater gods, each bearing the title Ahura. Zoroaster proclaimed that only one of these three gods, Ahura Mazda was the sole uncreated creator of the universe, and the Supreme Being. So I stayed a while to see what would happen, and after some time, his idea of his new found vision did not take off very well, he had only one follower, and that was his cousin Maidhyoimanha. The local religious authorities opposed all his ideas. They felt that their own faiths, power, and particularly their rituals, were threatened because Zoroaster taught against over-ritualizing religious ceremonies. Many ordinary people did not like Zoroaster's downgrading of the Daevas (other gods) to evil spirits. After 12 years, Zoroaster left his home to find somewhere more open to new ideas. He found such a place in the country of King Vishtaspa (in Bactria). The King and his queen, Hutosa, heard Zoroaster debating with the religious leaders of his land, and decided to accept Zoroaster's ideas and make them the official religion of their kingdom. I saw this religion grow within my own eyes, and I observed all the rituals that they performed. I asked, what is this new religions core belief? The local followers told me with great enthusiasm as if they wanted to convert me. You see, in Zoroastrianism, Ahura Mazda is the beginning and the end, the creator of everything that can and cannot be seen, the Eternal, the Pure and the only Truth. They also informed me that he had a holy text called Gathas, the most sacred texts of Zoroastrianism that was composed by Zoroaster himself, the prophet acknowledged devotion to no other divinity besides Ahura Mazda. The true final religion and they worshiped one supreme God. So I watched them pray, and they were very devoted in their ritual prayers. The Zoroastrians did prayers 5 times a day, and they called it "Geh". The devotee was summoned by a ringing of a bell in the AtashBehram / Agiary. (a Holy fire temple) Their first prayers started at Dawn called, Havaan Their second prayers started at noon called, Rapithwan Their third prayer started in the afternoon, called Uziren Their fourth prayer started in the evening, called Aiwisuthrem And a final last prayer was at Night time, called Ushaen. I saw each Zoroastrian entering the Agiary, he had his head covered, he would washed his face and limbs and performs the Padyaab Kusti before doing his prayers. I was amazed at their punctual rituals. Their prayers were recited in Avesta, or they also had a choice to recite in Pazend only (A Middle Persian language). In fact, in the Aveatan prayers, the Pazend portions had to be recited in an undertone so as not to break the seamless flow of Avestan Manthravani (beautiful Chanting). I also noticed that the direction they would pray varied depending on the times of prayers. When they prayed in the morning, they all had faced east, at noon, they faced south, at sunset, they faced west, and at night, they all faced an oil lamb. But they never prayed in the direction of north, and they never prayed in the bathroom. Their physical rituals included both kneeling down and touching the forehead to the ground. A particular time came upon them on a holy month called Bahman. In Zoroastrianism the month of Bahman was to abstain from flesh. I also heard some locals talking about the great event that their new prophet had, that the glowing entity that he saw was Bahman Ameshsaspand. Bahman Ameshaspand led him to the Court of Ahura Mazda where he beheld the Lord Supreme and the luminous Amesha Spentas(great six "divine sparks" of Ahura Mazda.). They revealed to Zarathustra what each of them protected. It was a journey into heaven and he also had visited hell. He also saw a bridge, The Chinvat Bridge "bridge of judgment" or "beam-shaped bridge", the Zoroastrianism idea of the bridge is that it separates the world of the living from the world of the dead. All souls must cross the bridge upon death. They told me that if a person had been wicked, this bridge would appear narrow and the demon Vizaresh would emerge and drag their soul into the druj-demana (the House of Lies), a place of eternal punishment and suffering. However, if a person's has good thoughts, words and deeds in their life, the bridge would be wide enough to cross, and the Daena, a spirit representing revelation, would appear and lead the soul into the House of Song. The prophet Zoroaster also warned his followers of this obstacle towards heaven, but he promised to lead his flock safely across. I also noticed that they were very clean; each Zoroastrian believed that cleanliness was indeed close to godliness. They kept clean with ritualized bathing and washing, it was just a part of a daily routine, but it was also a routine for the different gahs / gehs, or even divisions of the day as it went along. When a person was contaminated in some fashion - then a further process of purification was also prescribed. They also told me that the best time to pray was to recite prayers between 3 AM and 36 minutes before sunrise. During that time, magnetism in air is neutralized and nature is clean and to receive the best of the best vibrations like the Avesta Manthravaani. I asked them, whats happened after one you die? And they told me that each Zoroastrian spirit leaves the body, but remains in its vicinity for three days and nights, suffering from temporary anxiety and distress caused by the sudden separation. During this period, the archangel Vohuman and Mithra prepare an account of the good works and the sins of the soul, to be used later to decide its fate in the spiritual world. On the third night the soul leaves the material world and enters into the spiritual world,  led by an angel called Daena (who symbolically represents conscience). There it stands before the Chinawad or Chinavat Bridge or the Bridge of Judgment, where the deeds of the souls are reviewed. Good souls are led to the Paradise and evil souls are led to the world of punishment. The journey of the souls who are destined to go to the heaven is made pleasant by the angels, where as the sinners go through an agonizing experience as they will be forcibly pushed towards hell. The souls will remain in their respective abodes till the end of the current cycle of time. At the end of it there will be a Judgment Day, when God will revive all the dead souls and review their actions once again. After a while, I decided to leave, and left them in their ways of life, their rituals, and their belief. I, as an observer, only came for knowledge, and that knowledge I will take with me for the future and tell my children that, Once upon a time, a great Prophet was born thousands of years ago in a hot dry land. They were a people Indo Iranian stock, and spoke a beautiful language that seemed to rhyme when they chanted; it was called Indo-Iraninan. And they worshiped a great God, a Supreme Being, and slowly, my children will fall fast asleep into a world full dreams, and enchantment. From an ex-Muslim
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  • Gnosticism

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    When people think of gnosticism, they think of fringe Christianity. There was an obvious dissonance between the conception of God in Christian eyes, and God in Judaism. So much so that some converts couldn't reconcile the two. In all three Abraham religions, there's an unorthodox esoteric branch that renders some aspect of God as being utterly transcendent to the point of irrational cruelty. All three orthodox faiths conceive of God as being fundamentally merciful and attribute to the devil or to the mysteriousness of God any evil in the world. But is this the right line of thinking? Just because God is God and there is no other God, should this lead to worship? Despite the fact that all three religions (in varying degrees) deny it, the creation myth is Promethean in it's tone. The devil is betrayed into thinking he is favored and then punished by subservience to man. Pagans, Jews, Christians, etc in that order have suffered from having faith in their own convictions. Is God primarily merciful or vain?
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  • Some analogy to God created world

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    Hi, i just thought that i want to share with you guys about this. Maybe it could help. Try to relate this world to a 3D mass multiplayer online games. Those who had played it may somewhat understand what i'm saying, those who haven't, I recommend you guys to try it (It's pay per play). I'd like to relate our world to the most popular MMORPG which is called World of Warcraft. This virtual world is created by human, by programmers, modelers and artists. Orchestrated by their directors, under the name of Blizzard the company name. The world (Azeroth) has it's own physics, it's own creatures (non playable characters, NPC) and intelligent lifeforms (playable characters PC). Supervised by the Game Master (GM) which has the power beyond the world rules of physics of this world. The world is materialized and controlled inside a server which is interconnected with computers within the internet from all around the world. The world can be audio visualized through a 2D display (the monitor) and a speaker and interacted with the PC (mouse and keyboard). The lifeforms is controlled by a human. To be able to go inside this world, one must pay/subcribe to the Blizzard to get the client software. And have a PC to install the software and become connected to this world. So how do we relate this game to our world? Time & space This virtual world has it's own time and space. Still, the time is similar to our world (minutes & hours). With the exception of Tuesday. The maintenance day. The world are brought down to sleep at this day. Mostly 8 hours of nothingness. But in our world, with the complexity of it, the world is online 24/7 but the need to rest (sleep) is just at the Humans. the Player. Our world are designed to run by itself, to maintain the balance by itself. All based on the rules that has been designed. The laws of physics In this game, you can walk, run, jump, use gesture, communicate through a chat channel or word bubbles. The Player can also use abilities (that we call magics/skills) that can help them survive in this world. All of the physics are designed based on what the director and programmers wants. What they pursue is to make sure the balance among the classes, and the physics of the abilities is equal (or approximate to equal) among each classes and races. Same like us, all they physics law designed by the Creator is at it best at a balanced state. Like the gravity pull us down, but the earth that we stand is opposing the pull, creating a balance in Gravity (sort of like that). So i can relate the directors, programmers and the program itself to what we call angels at our world. It is unknown to us how the angels manage our world. Same like in the game world we can't understand how the programmers makes this happen unless we go through the source codes and decipher it back one by one. For example, when the Player died, they will be resurrected at a grave. Invisible to others. Players can't see them unless they died. But they are there in the world. In a different (what we call) dimension, so to speak. They are there in the mainframe servers, but is block or not to be seen in the visualized world (the game client). The intelligent life forms The PC in this world we can relate to us human. They are the so called rulers. The purpose that this world is created. Each races has its own uniqueness. We can relate the races to our races of human, each of us have our own traits and appearance (white, black, asian etc). In the game, they are classes that can be chosen by the Player. The Player can be a warrior, mage, warlock etc. They can also choose a profession as a side abilities. Same like us we got to choose what we want to become, what career we want to choose. With the abilities that we pursue in real life need to be earned. It's not coming just from thin air. Same like in the game, one must go and earn the experience points to gain level and collect gold to be able to purchase and use new abilities based on the class that they had chosen. So to relate, i could say the Player, or Human player as the soul or spirit of the game. Which has the control of the characters body. Which decides where to go or what to do in the world. Still, they are bound to the rule of the game. They can't teleport, they must eat and drink potions to heal, they can only jump at a certain height, to communicate, they have to be close to other character, or be accepted at a special channel to chat, and etc. With the exception of the GM, they has an additional power like they are immortal, they can chat with any player in the world, they can "teleport" to anywhere they want, they can resurrect dead players, can materialize any items or any creatures of that world. Or even kill/ban that player from the game world. But they are still bound within the rules that the programmers has created. So to maintain that balance, the GM is required to observe any transgressors of the game world. They can be in any forms, visible or not visible. Try to imagine how they are connected, how the players can't see the GM while the GM know that they are there and can answer their call if the GM wills. And can give them provision (is limited to the rule that has been set) if he want to. It could be the same as our world. But of course at a higher degree of complexity unfathomable by our mind. The creatures (NPC) We can say it as a soulless lifeforms. They act and react based on triggers and directions that had been set to them. Like a monster in that game, most of them has different appearance and characteristics based on the laws that the programmers had coded. Some monster may only react to the players when they attack them. While some did not. Some is cannot be touched, while some is very powerful, it can kill a player in one hit. Some if killed, may give a player rewards, but some may give player hardships (more monsters spawned etc). Like in our world, this soulless lifeforms can be said as the animals and plants. They have their own agenda that we cannot understand. They have their instinct to guide them. They can also react to us if we interact with them. Each has their own characteristics and way of life. The materials in the world Inside the world, one can see and stand in it. It has it's own plantations, buildings, landscape etc. All pre-built. Most of them are not interactive. Like you can't chop off the trees, or dig a hole. It has been programmed that way. All the material has its shapes and forms. With colours and textures in it. All are visualized by the modelers, and initially sketched by the artist. Same like in our world. The materials are designed in such a way, that is structured from a combinations of atoms which becomes elements and with the right recipe, becomes collective of that atoms that we can touch, taste, look, hear or smell. In our case it is interactive. But it is still limited to rule that has been designed for us. For example, we can't change iron to gold by just rearranging the atom structure by our hands. It is not possible. But with a right knowledge, method and material, we can create it. The purpose Players are first entered in the game at level 1. At a designated city. A safe place. We can call them as newborn. Everything is new to the first timers (Noobs )) They'll learn how to adapt, and the game is designed in such a way that all the Noobs will learn from fighting a low level monsters and doing a simple quest first. Up to fighting an Epic boss which requires teamworks and a high level character with epic equipments. But to be able to understand the purpose, one must roam the world, or interact with others, or go offline refer to websites to be able to understand the purpose and the hows and whys. Or they can create their own purpose, their own adventure. Free choice. Same like us, to understand our purpose, we have religion, science, philosophy, spirituality, history to be able to understand that purpose. With the right channel or guidance, we might go at a path that is designed for us, but if we are influenced by the wrong channel, we might go at a different way, without realizing our true purpose. Or maybe create our own purpose. Again, Free choice. So which one is God? What do you guys think? is the GM god? the director is God? the Blizzard is God? the servers are God? or all of them are God? or God is just a label that could ease our understanding? Maybe there's more to it than we know. What we know now is just the tip of the iceberg of the whole system. Sooner or later maybe we can understand it. Maybe there's a backdoor program somewhere ;D Peace.
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  • Why worship God/The creator ?

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    Peace be upon all, I have few questions which might sound weird but I would like to get some opinion from u all.....so here it goes.; why do we pray to the creator ? does the creator need our prayer? Why does the creator wants us to follow It's message if our deeds doesnt affect It in any way while threatening us to punish if not followed ? peace
  • What is a "god"?

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    Peace be upon you, What are your understandings of the word "god"? When the word "God" is mentioned, what picture comes to your mind? What is the proper understanding of the "attributes" of the God, and are there really 99 of them? I consider The God to be ALL THAT THERE IS, BOTH PERCEIVABLE AND IMPERCIEVABLE. When I hear the mention of the God, I do not think of a picture in my head, instead, I think of the laws that govern the creations. Please let me hear your opinions.