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A Question About Jinns

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    Rev_John
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    Definitely... another strike to the Sunnis, the prophet Muhammad apparently said in a hadith that cutting off 'a little' is okay nope

    From what I have been told (I may be wrong) the prophet did not say anything in a hadith, they were made up after his death.

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      srotu
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      Well, hadiths are full of doo-doo anyway but for the sake of ah research

      "When you circumcise then do not cut severely, since that is better for her and more pleasing to the husband." (Reported by Abu Dawud and Al-Baihaqee and declared Hasan by Shaikh Al-Albani)

      Also, one of those ask-an-imam sort of sites http//www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543886

      Seriously, wtf.

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        nsws1988
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        From what I have been told (I may be wrong) the prophet did not say anything in a hadith, they were made up after his death.

        bravo

        He wasn't allowed to either from what I understand from these verses...

        Had he uttered any other teachings - We would have punished him - We would have stopped the revelations to him (644-46)

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          Bosnian_Thinker
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          bravo

          He wasn't allowed to either from what I understand from these verses...

          Had he uttered any other teachings - We would have punished him - We would have stopped the revelations to him (644-46)

          Of course, you can show evidence like this to the Sunnis and Shi'ites but most of them won't listen.

          Peace peace

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            MUNZIR_ALI
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            bravo

            He wasn't allowed to either from what I understand from these verses...

            Had he uttered any other teachings - We would have punished him - We would have stopped the revelations to him (644-46)

            bravo

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              Rev_John
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              bravo

              I am quite sure that no one who believes that God is love would condone the mutilation of women (or men for that matter)

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                MUNZIR_ALI
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                I am quite sure that no one who believes that God is love would condone the mutilation of women (or men for that matter)

                handshake bravo

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                  Rami
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                  I am quite sure that no one who believes that God is love would condone the mutilation of women (or men for that matter)

                  But isn't male circumcision mandated by YHVH in His Torah??

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                    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                    bravo

                    He wasn't allowed to either from what I understand from these verses...

                    Correct.

                    Had he uttered any other teachings - We would have punished him - We would have stopped the revelations to him (644-46)

                    Inaccurate/erronous translation, plus you gave a wrong citation.

                    6943 A revelation from the Lord of the worlds
                    6944 And if he had ascribed his sayings/anything falsely to Us

                    6945 We would have seized him by the right
                    6946 Then, We would have severed his life-line
                    6947 None of you would be able to prevent it

                    6948 This is a reminder for the righteous
                    6949 We know that some of you are deniers
                    6950 And that it is a distress for the rejecters

                    6951 It is the absolute truth

                    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                      nsws1988
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                      Correct.

                      Inaccurate/erronous translation, plus you gave a wrong citation.

                      6943 A revelation from the Lord of the worlds
                      6944 And if he had ascribed his sayings/anything falsely to Us

                      6945 We would have seized him by the right
                      6946 Then, We would have severed his life-line
                      6947 None of you would be able to prevent it

                      6948 This is a reminder for the righteous
                      6949 We know that some of you are deniers
                      6950 And that it is a distress for the rejecters

                      6951 It is the absolute truth

                      Which translation do you have and what makes it correct?

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                        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                        Which translation do you have and what makes it correct?

                        You've used Rashad Khalifa's translation and concerning these verses it is inaccurate AKA bad. Just compare his with the other ones on www.quranix.net

                        I'm not saying that his is overall bad, to the contrary, I think it is one of the best, but sometimes/many times it just isnt literal/good.

                        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                          nsws1988
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                          You've used Rashad Khalifa's translation and concerning these verses it is inaccurate AKA bad. Just compare his with the other ones on www.quranix.net

                          I'm not saying that his is overall bad, to the contrary, I think it is one of the best, but sometimes/many times it just isnt literal/good.

                          No offense but do you think RK is a messenger? If so, you think he can't translate the Quran properly? hmm

                          I only used that because it is the Progressive Muslims translation too according to submission.org.

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                            No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                            No offense but do you think RK is a messenger? If so, you think he can't translate the Quran properly? hmm

                            I only used that because it is the Progressive Muslims translation too according to submission.org.

                            rotfl

                            Misconception Rashad Khalifa was infallible.
                            Truth Rashad Khalifa was fallible

                            Fact the translation of those verses is not literal.
                            Check other ones. The literal translation brings across the message way better.

                            Fact orignially, he only wanted to translate the Quran for his family and himself, because he saw distortions in traditional translations - he wanted to make a monotheist translation - not a sectarian/traditionalist one. Then he discovered the numerical pattern.

                            Peace

                            I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                              Rev_John
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                              But isn't male circumcision mandated by YHVH in His Torah??

                              No. Only for the Jews. It does say about the "uncircumcised" being welcomed

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                                Rami
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                                No. Only for the Jews. It does say about the "uncircumcised" being welcomed

                                From a pure Torah perspective, what is the obligations of the other nations in order to be blessed?

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  From a pure Torah perspective, what is the obligations of the other nations in order to be blessed?

                                  To believe in the one true God and adhere to his laws

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                                    Rami
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                                    To believe in the one true God and adhere to his laws

                                    What laws? What is the reference?

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                                      Rev_John
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                                      What laws? What is the reference?

                                      The 10 commandments

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                                        Rami
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                                        The 10 commandments

                                        Why did you strip these 10 out of the whole Torah??

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                                          afridi220
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                                          rotfl

                                          Misconception Rashad Khalifa was infallible.
                                          Truth Rashad Khalifa was fallible

                                          Fact the translation of those verses is not literal.
                                          Check other ones. The literal translation brings across the message way better.

                                          Fact orignially, he only wanted to translate the Quran for his family and himself, because he saw distortions in traditional translations - he wanted to make a monotheist translation - not a sectarian/traditionalist one. Then he discovered the numerical pattern.Peace

                                          So he discovered the numerical pattern by chance and decided to announce that he is a messanger? hmm

                                          Then what is wrong with anthony why not accepting him poor anthony

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