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  • The_SardarT Offline
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    The_Sardar
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    @Sardar

    The attachment of "li" with the word Allah removes the letter alif and make it "Lillahi" which means "for Allah".

    I noticed i found this from this post about Allah being a common noun https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16710.0

    By the way what do you think about the article in the first page about the term Allah? Here is the link from the first page http//ahleaqal.blogspot.se/2017/05/the-linguistic-analysis-of-term-allah.html

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      Salaam Sardar

      Quote "This term is a compound of words,." unquote

      So as per this quote the word Allah means "THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM" Lets see how it fits in the following term

      323 ...... .......

      So which translation of this verse make sense

      They are called to book of Allah
      or
      They are called to book of THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM

      Regards

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      • The_SardarT Offline
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        Salaam Sardar

        Quote "This term is a compound of words,." unquote

        So as per this quote the word Allah means "THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM" Lets see how it fits in the following term

        323 ...... .......

        So which translation of this verse make sense

        They are called to book of Allah
        or
        They are called to book of THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM

        Regards

        Obviously the one i marked yellow.

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        • The_SardarT Offline
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          The_Sardar
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          So what do you think of this article brother of Mankind Novice, do you think this person have valid points in his article or is he/she going off track?

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            Obviously the one i marked yellow.

            Brother Sardar do you still have to ask me about the article. You just rejected his meanings of the word Allah.

            Regards

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            • The_SardarT Offline
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              The_Sardar
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              #20

              Brother Sardar do you still have to ask me about the article. You just rejected his meanings of the word Allah.

              Regards

              Well i wondered what you thought rest of the article..sorry -[

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                Well i wondered what you thought rest of the article..sorry -[

                The name of article is "THE LINGUISTIC ANALYSIS OF THE TERM ALLAH"

                You did not accept the conclusion that Allah means "THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM" so what value you assign to the article brother.

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                • The_SardarT Offline
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                  The_Sardar
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                  The name of article is "THE LINGUISTIC ANALYSIS OF THE TERM ALLAH"

                  You did not accept the conclusion that Allah means "THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM" so what value you assign to the article brother.

                  Sorry if my answer seems bit dull but the meaning "THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM" is off as you showed in this quote

                  323 ...... .......

                  So which translation of this verse make sense

                  They are called to book of Allah
                  or
                  They are called to book of THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM
                  So the word would mean well...The God. Is this answer good? -\

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                    I read "Allah" without translating it. I could not find any satisfactory explanation for this word. Corpus says it is a nominative proper noun. http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(22551)

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                    • The_SardarT Offline
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                      I read "Allah" without translating it. I could not find any satisfactory explanation for this word. Corpus says it is a nominative proper noun. http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(22551)

                      Some say it's a proper, some it's a common noun and some say it's a special term like Man of Faith and the person in this article.

                      There is even verses that says Allah being The One God.

                      Wahuwa allathee fee alssama-iilahun wafee al-ardi ilahun wahuwa alhakeemualAAaleemu
                      4384 And He is the One who is a god in the heaven and a god on the earth. And He is the Wise, the Knowledgeable.

                      Innama ilahukumu Allahuallathee la ilaha illa huwa wasiAAakulla shay-in AAilman
                      2098 Your god is God; whom there is no god but He. His knowledge encompasses all things.

                      Waqala Allahu latattakhithoo ilahayni ithnayni innama huwailahun wahidun fa-iyyaya fairhabooni
                      1651 And God said "Do not take two gods, there is only One god, so it is Me that you shall reverence."

                      Qul ayyu shay-in akbaru shahadatanquli Allahu shaheedun baynee wabaynakum waoohiyailayya hatha alqur-anu li-onthirakum bihiwaman balagha a-innakum latashhadoona anna maAAa Allahi alihatanokhra qul la ashhadu qul innama huwa ilahunwahidun wa-innanee baree-on mimma tushrikoona
                      619 Say "Which is the greatest testimony?" Say "God is witness between me and you, and He has inspired to me this Qur'an that I may warn you with it and whoever it reaches, that you are bearing witness that with God are other gods!" Say "I do not bear witness!" Say "He is only One god, and I am innocent of what you have set up!"

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                        Some say it's a proper, some it's a common noun and some say it's a special term like Man of Faith and the person in this article.

                        There is even verses that says Allah being The One God.

                        Wahuwa allathee fee alssama-iilahun wafee al-ardi ilahun wahuwa alhakeemualAAaleemu
                        4384 And He is the One who is a god in the heaven and a god on the earth. And He is the Wise, the Knowledgeable.

                        Innama ilahukumu Allahuallathee la ilaha illa huwa wasiAAakulla shay-in AAilman
                        2098 Your god is God; whom there is no god but He. His knowledge encompasses all things.

                        Waqala Allahu latattakhithoo ilahayni ithnayni innama huwailahun wahidun fa-iyyaya fairhabooni
                        1651 And God said "Do not take two gods, there is only One god, so it is Me that you shall reverence."

                        Qul ayyu shay-in akbaru shahadatanquli Allahu shaheedun baynee wabaynakum waoohiyailayya hatha alqur-anu li-onthirakum bihiwaman balagha a-innakum latashhadoona anna maAAa Allahi alihatanokhra qul la ashhadu qul innama huwa ilahunwahidun wa-innanee baree-on mimma tushrikoona
                        619 Say "Which is the greatest testimony?" Say "God is witness between me and you, and He has inspired to me this Qur'an that I may warn you with it and whoever it reaches, that you are bearing witness that with God are other gods!" Say "I do not bear witness!" Say "He is only One god, and I am innocent of what you have set up!"

                        Great post.

                        Salaam

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                          Great post.

                          Salaam

                          Salam Huruf you said ''The green are possessive construction'' when i showed this 2165

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                            The_Sardar
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                            Uh Huruf im waiting for answer about the possessive construction

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                              huruf
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                              Sorry, I have to say I don't knw what was in my mind when I wrote that, because seeing it now it is wrong. In fact it is exactly as Novice said inhis or her post Tehre is Allah and there is l-illah, with the preoposition li.

                              Excuse me if I led you to spend too much time trying to figure the thing out. I must have ben thinking of something else and been not very attentive.

                              Salaam

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                                Salam Aleykum everyone i found a article from a man named Kashif Khan (you might remember him) and its about root word of Allah https//www.linkedin.com/pulse/allah-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%DB%81-falsely-derived-from-root-word-idol-deities-dr-kashif-khan?trk=mp-reader-card Now dont let the title mislead into thinking it's an atheistic influenced article, i kept reading i was impressed of this mans work. group

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                                  The_Sardar
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                                  Salam Aleykum everyone i found a article from a man named Kashif Khan (you might remember him) and its about root word of Allah https//www.linkedin.com/pulse/allah-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%DB%81-falsely-derived-from-root-word-idol-deities-dr-kashif-khan?trk=mp-reader-card Now dont let the title mislead into thinking it's an atheistic influenced article, i kept reading i was impressed of this mans work. group

                                  So any reviews?

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                                    huruf
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                                    Our missed friend Pazuzu wrote something about that. Here is the thread

                                    https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605163.msg323451#msg323451

                                    I think Pazuzu explanation which amounts to what Kashif says, is much shorter, much clearer, and quite efficient and gives more intresting data. It is not something new either. It is rather a common understanding, although it coexists with the "The God" conception.

                                    Proably it does not change that much, because at any rate the idea of God in each person is what it is no matter what the etimological factors may be.

                                    Salaam

                                    Salaam

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                                      Our missed friend Pazuzu wrote something about that. Here is the thread

                                      https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605163.msg323451#msg323451

                                      I think Pazuzu explanation which amounts to what Kashif says, is much shorter, much clearer, and quite efficient and gives more intresting data. It is not something new either. It is rather a common understanding, although it coexists with the "The God" conception.

                                      Proably it does not change that much, because at any rate the idea of God in each person is what it is no matter what the etimological factors may be.

                                      Salaam

                                      Salaam

                                      More like the Creator God conception. To be fair it make sense.

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                                        The_Sardar
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                                        Our missed friend Pazuzu wrote something about that

                                        I noticed you guys miss this Pazuzu, what is it that you guys respect him so much?

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                                          Look for his posts.

                                          He dis a great job in bringing to the fore questions like some Qur'an identities, like pharao or locations. He wrote several books for free with thorough studies on Sulayman and the Queen of Saba, Yusuf and Musa an the country they lived in.

                                          Unfortunately when the flat earth and he met, he defended flat earth and I am afraid, by doing that he felt he lost the respect he had won with other very important questions and excelent work.

                                          Of course, as it is abundantly clear from the way we miss him and. He did not loose any respect at all. We all are likely to make blunders, and nobody is obliged to be right in absolutely everything, neither him nor anybody else. I do hope he is on something else important withthis unique knowledge and talent.

                                          Salaam

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