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    good_logic
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    Yes indeed huruf, call "him..." Allah,Al-Rahman,GOD, The Principal Co-ordinator...You will never run out of names. Does it really matter?

    Perhaps "Allah" is worth more credits than the other names?I have known this to be said and other daft irrelevant nonsense!!!

    GOD bless you.
    Peace.

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      The_Sardar
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      Salam everyone i found this post which 9 years old which im currently reading https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16710.0

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        The_Sardar
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        I noticed in some verses in the Quran the word Allah is missing it's alif for example this verse

        2165

        The ones with alif is the one marked brown & those without the alif is marked green.

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          huruf
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          I noticed in some verses in the Quran the word Allah is missing it's alif for example this verse

          2165

          The ones with alif is the one marked brown & those without the alif is marked green.

          The green are possessive construction.

          Salaam

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            The_Sardar
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            The green are possessive construction.

            Salaam

            Possessive construction? ???

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              Novice
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              The green are possessive construction.

              Salaam

              Salaam huruf

              The words in red are "lillahi" where "li" is harf e jar meaning "for". It is a "jaar majroor" construction. A possessive construction is like "kitab ullahi".

              @Sardar

              The attachment of "li" with the word Allah removes the letter alif and make it "Lillahi" which means "for Allah".

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                The_Sardar
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                @Sardar

                The attachment of "li" with the word Allah removes the letter alif and make it "Lillahi" which means "for Allah".

                I noticed i found this from this post about Allah being a common noun https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16710.0

                By the way what do you think about the article in the first page about the term Allah? Here is the link from the first page http//ahleaqal.blogspot.se/2017/05/the-linguistic-analysis-of-term-allah.html

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                  Salaam Sardar

                  Quote "This term is a compound of words,." unquote

                  So as per this quote the word Allah means "THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM" Lets see how it fits in the following term

                  323 ...... .......

                  So which translation of this verse make sense

                  They are called to book of Allah
                  or
                  They are called to book of THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM

                  Regards

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                    Salaam Sardar

                    Quote "This term is a compound of words,." unquote

                    So as per this quote the word Allah means "THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM" Lets see how it fits in the following term

                    323 ...... .......

                    So which translation of this verse make sense

                    They are called to book of Allah
                    or
                    They are called to book of THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM

                    Regards

                    Obviously the one i marked yellow.

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                      The_Sardar
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                      So what do you think of this article brother of Mankind Novice, do you think this person have valid points in his article or is he/she going off track?

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                        Obviously the one i marked yellow.

                        Brother Sardar do you still have to ask me about the article. You just rejected his meanings of the word Allah.

                        Regards

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                          The_Sardar
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                          Brother Sardar do you still have to ask me about the article. You just rejected his meanings of the word Allah.

                          Regards

                          Well i wondered what you thought rest of the article..sorry -[

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                            Well i wondered what you thought rest of the article..sorry -[

                            The name of article is "THE LINGUISTIC ANALYSIS OF THE TERM ALLAH"

                            You did not accept the conclusion that Allah means "THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM" so what value you assign to the article brother.

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                              The_Sardar
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                              The name of article is "THE LINGUISTIC ANALYSIS OF THE TERM ALLAH"

                              You did not accept the conclusion that Allah means "THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM" so what value you assign to the article brother.

                              Sorry if my answer seems bit dull but the meaning "THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM" is off as you showed in this quote

                              323 ...... .......

                              So which translation of this verse make sense

                              They are called to book of Allah
                              or
                              They are called to book of THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM
                              So the word would mean well...The God. Is this answer good? -\

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                                I read "Allah" without translating it. I could not find any satisfactory explanation for this word. Corpus says it is a nominative proper noun. http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(22551)

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                                  The_Sardar
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                                  I read "Allah" without translating it. I could not find any satisfactory explanation for this word. Corpus says it is a nominative proper noun. http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(22551)

                                  Some say it's a proper, some it's a common noun and some say it's a special term like Man of Faith and the person in this article.

                                  There is even verses that says Allah being The One God.

                                  Wahuwa allathee fee alssama-iilahun wafee al-ardi ilahun wahuwa alhakeemualAAaleemu
                                  4384 And He is the One who is a god in the heaven and a god on the earth. And He is the Wise, the Knowledgeable.

                                  Innama ilahukumu Allahuallathee la ilaha illa huwa wasiAAakulla shay-in AAilman
                                  2098 Your god is God; whom there is no god but He. His knowledge encompasses all things.

                                  Waqala Allahu latattakhithoo ilahayni ithnayni innama huwailahun wahidun fa-iyyaya fairhabooni
                                  1651 And God said "Do not take two gods, there is only One god, so it is Me that you shall reverence."

                                  Qul ayyu shay-in akbaru shahadatanquli Allahu shaheedun baynee wabaynakum waoohiyailayya hatha alqur-anu li-onthirakum bihiwaman balagha a-innakum latashhadoona anna maAAa Allahi alihatanokhra qul la ashhadu qul innama huwa ilahunwahidun wa-innanee baree-on mimma tushrikoona
                                  619 Say "Which is the greatest testimony?" Say "God is witness between me and you, and He has inspired to me this Qur'an that I may warn you with it and whoever it reaches, that you are bearing witness that with God are other gods!" Say "I do not bear witness!" Say "He is only One god, and I am innocent of what you have set up!"

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                                    huruf
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                                    Some say it's a proper, some it's a common noun and some say it's a special term like Man of Faith and the person in this article.

                                    There is even verses that says Allah being The One God.

                                    Wahuwa allathee fee alssama-iilahun wafee al-ardi ilahun wahuwa alhakeemualAAaleemu
                                    4384 And He is the One who is a god in the heaven and a god on the earth. And He is the Wise, the Knowledgeable.

                                    Innama ilahukumu Allahuallathee la ilaha illa huwa wasiAAakulla shay-in AAilman
                                    2098 Your god is God; whom there is no god but He. His knowledge encompasses all things.

                                    Waqala Allahu latattakhithoo ilahayni ithnayni innama huwailahun wahidun fa-iyyaya fairhabooni
                                    1651 And God said "Do not take two gods, there is only One god, so it is Me that you shall reverence."

                                    Qul ayyu shay-in akbaru shahadatanquli Allahu shaheedun baynee wabaynakum waoohiyailayya hatha alqur-anu li-onthirakum bihiwaman balagha a-innakum latashhadoona anna maAAa Allahi alihatanokhra qul la ashhadu qul innama huwa ilahunwahidun wa-innanee baree-on mimma tushrikoona
                                    619 Say "Which is the greatest testimony?" Say "God is witness between me and you, and He has inspired to me this Qur'an that I may warn you with it and whoever it reaches, that you are bearing witness that with God are other gods!" Say "I do not bear witness!" Say "He is only One god, and I am innocent of what you have set up!"

                                    Great post.

                                    Salaam

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                                      The_Sardar
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                                      Great post.

                                      Salaam

                                      Salam Huruf you said ''The green are possessive construction'' when i showed this 2165

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                                        The_Sardar
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                                        Uh Huruf im waiting for answer about the possessive construction

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                                          huruf
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                                          Sorry, I have to say I don't knw what was in my mind when I wrote that, because seeing it now it is wrong. In fact it is exactly as Novice said inhis or her post Tehre is Allah and there is l-illah, with the preoposition li.

                                          Excuse me if I led you to spend too much time trying to figure the thing out. I must have ben thinking of something else and been not very attentive.

                                          Salaam

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