Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Users
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Free Minds Forum Icon
  1. Home
  2. General Issues / Questions
  3. General Issues / Questions
  4. An article about Allah.

An article about Allah.

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Issues / Questions
64 Posts 6 Posters 2.5k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • M Offline
    M Offline
    Man_of_Faith
    wrote on last edited by
    #2

    This assumption is not correct. However, it is correct Allah is not a proper noun.

    Allah is from a root found in lexicons and etymological sources as Alef-Lam-Lam. Allah is a remarkable unique formula including an end which is commonly known as third person singular.

    Allah basically means "Is Like (a) Who"", based on the same root as is used in the famous AL prefix. For further knowing about that I cannot disclose on this forum, but I can tell Allah does not mean what people are used to.

    Allah is not from a nonexistent root called Alif-Lam-Heh. That root does not exist. Eleh is no more than AL prefix on a third person singular pronoun suffix. Simple grammar. It means "the he/she/it". Allah is a slightly more evolved form, meaning "the like he/she/it". Basically it refers to someone's status as a being.

    Be well
    Qarael Amenuel

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • The_SardarT Offline
      The_SardarT Offline
      The_Sardar
      wrote on last edited by
      #3

      This assumption is not correct. However, it is correct Allah is not a proper noun.

      Allah is from a root found in lexicons and etymological sources as Alef-Lam-Lam. Allah is a remarkable unique formula including an end which is commonly known as third person singular.

      Allah basically means "Is Like (a) Who"", based on the same root as is used in the famous AL prefix. For further knowing about that I cannot disclose on this forum, but I can tell Allah does not mean what people are used to.

      Allah is not from a nonexistent root called Alif-Lam-Heh. That root does not exist. Eleh is no more than AL prefix on a third person singular pronoun suffix. Simple grammar. It means "the he/she/it". Allah is a slightly more evolved form, meaning "the like he/she/it". Basically it refers to someone's status as a being.

      Be well
      Qarael Amenuel

      Salam brother of Mankind Amenuel, I went to project check the root word meaning of Allah and i found this

      Alif-Lam-ha = to serve, worship or adore; to protect, grant refuge, preserve save, rescue, liberate; object of worship ie God; (Alif-Lam-Lam-ha) God, the one true God applied as a proper name denoting the true god, comprising all the excellent divine names; a unity comprising all the essences of existing things.

      allahumma "O God!" 326, 5114, 832, 1010, 3946
      allah
      "there is no god but God" 2255, 32, 318, 362, 487, 208, 2014, 2098, 2726, 2870, 3735, 3865, 4719, 5922, 5923, 6413
      "He is God, that is God" 63, 695, 3513, 396
      "Belonging to God" 2115, 2142, 2284, 328, 3109, 3129, 3180, 4126, 4131, 4131, 4132, 4170, 612, 6136, 6136, 81, 841, 1055, 1066, 142, 2385, 2387, 2389, 2464, 3126, 484, 487, 5325, 5331, 5710, 597, 637
      "By God" 1273, 1285, 1291, 1295, 1656, 1663, 2157, 2697, 3756
      "With or from God; in God's sight" ('ind Allah) 279, 294, 2110, 2217, 2282, 314, 337, 378, 378, 3163, 3198, 3198, 478, 478, 494, 6124, 7131, 7187, 822, 828, 855, 919, 920, 922, 936, 999, 1446, 1695, 1696, 2413, 2415, 2461, 2747, 2860, 3039, 3353, 3363, 3369, 4035, 4152, 4236, 4610, 485, 613, 6211, 6415, 7320
      "God is with" 940, 4735
      "Apart from God" (dun Allah) 223, 364, 5116, 916, 931, 1018, 1037, 1843, 1981, 2724, 2881, 2925, 3674, 3786, 4074, 4628, 5358, 7125
      "Other than God" (ghayr Allah) 2173, 482, 53, 614, 619, 640, 646, 6114, 6145, 6164, 7140, 1596, 1652, 16115, 1722, 1739, 2122, 2760, 2761, 2762, 2763, 2764, 2871, 2872, 353, 3964, 5026, 5151, 5243

      ilah n.m. (pl. alihah) 2133, 2133, 2133, 2163, 2163, 4171, 573, 619, 931, 1452, 1622, 1622, 1651, 18110, 18110, 2098, 21108, 21108, 2234, 2234, 2838, 2946, 2946, 374, 385, 4037, 416, 416, 4384, 4384, 1143

      other (false) gods - 2163, 2255, 32, 36, 318, 318, 362, 487, 573, 5116, 619, 646, 674, 6102, 6106, 759, 765, 773, 785, 7127, 7138, 7138, 7140, 7158, 931, 9129, 1090, 1114, 1150, 1153, 1154, 1161, 1184, 11101, 1330, 1596, 162, 1651, 1722, 1739, 1742, 1814, 1815, 1946, 1981, 208, 2014, 2088, 2088, 2097, 2098, 2121, 2122, 2124, 2125, 2129, 2136, 2143, 2159, 2162, 2168, 2187, 2199, 2323, 2332, 2391, 2391, 23116, 23117, 253, 2542, 2543, 2568, 2629, 26213, 2726, 2760, 2761, 2762, 2763, 2764, 2838, 2870, 2871, 2872, 2888, 2888, 353, 3623, 3674, 3735, 3736, 3786, 3791, 385, 386, 3791, 385, 386, 3865, 396, 403, 4062, 4065, 4345, 4358, 448, 4523, 4622, 4628, 4719, 5026, 5151, 5243, 5922, 5923, 6413, 7123, 739

      Lane's Lexicon, Volume 1, pages 119, 120 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=alh

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • The_SardarT Offline
        The_SardarT Offline
        The_Sardar
        wrote on last edited by
        #4

        Allah is not from a nonexistent root called Alif-Lam-Heh. That root does not exist. Eleh is no more than AL prefix on a third person singular pronoun suffix. Simple grammar. It means "the he/she/it". Allah is a slightly more evolved form, meaning "the like he/she/it". Basically it refers to someone's status as a being.
        Be well
        Qarael Amenuel

        Being? Like some sort energy?

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • H Offline
          H Offline
          huruf
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          A word is what anybody's understanding can make of it. You cannot teach nor change nor do anything to instil any meaning of any word into a person without that person having experienced the necessary at whatever level to realise the meaning you want to transmit. That is, whatever you want to transmit will adjust to what the person is capable of perceiving and therefore receiving.

          Allah, God, Dios, whatever is what the receiver can make of it. By itself is nothing. Allah, God, Dios, whatever, has been transmited as the vehicle for a concept of spiritual knowledge which is very, very, very wide, from the most base and elementary understanding of origin of being to the most developped and visionary and experienced knowledge of divine inspiration and vision.

          Torturing a word will not make it speak louder nor clearer. It has nothing to confess, but the hearts of the people are the ones that know its meaningin whatever measure.

          Salaam

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • G Offline
            G Offline
            good_logic
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            Peace.
            Sister huruf ,I like what you say here,quote
            Torturing a word will not make it speak louder nor clearer. It has nothing to confess, but the hearts of the people are the ones that know its meaning in whatever measure.

            It seems some topics here are repeating the "torture" again and again,with no gain whatsoever to anyone.

            And sometimes we think we can make words speak louder and clearer by using a bigger font size? or highlight the colour? where in fact it is just "double torture"!!!!

            Our words run out quite quickly and we keep repeating the same old boring stuff.

            The word "Allah" has been discussed to death,until it became" There is no god"!!!!!

            Anyway ,a word of warning,if the meaning of the word "Allah"carries on being discussed ,it might disappear altogether ,then there will be no god?
            Do you think the forum will still function? Silly I know,like wanting to know what "Allah" means?
            GOD bless.
            Peace.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • The_SardarT Offline
              The_SardarT Offline
              The_Sardar
              wrote on last edited by
              #7

              Peace.

              The word "Allah" has been discussed to death,until it became" There is no god"!!!!!

              Anyway ,a word of warning,if the meaning of the word "Allah"carries on being discussed ,it might disappear altogether ,then there will be no god?
              Do you think the forum will still function? Silly I know,like wanting to know what "Allah" means?
              GOD bless.
              Peace.

              Sounds like atheistic influence being infecting the minds. No offense to atheists by the way.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • H Offline
                H Offline
                huruf
                wrote on last edited by
                #8

                Peace.
                Sister huruf ,I like what you say here,quote
                Torturing a word will not make it speak louder nor clearer. It has nothing to confess, but the hearts of the people are the ones that know its meaning in whatever measure.

                It seems some topics here are repeating the "torture" again and again,with no gain whatsoever to anyone.

                And sometimes we think we can make words speak louder and clearer by using a bigger font size? or highlight the colour? where in fact it is just "double torture"!!!!

                Our words run out quite quickly and we keep repeating the same old boring stuff.

                The word "Allah" has been discussed to death,until it became" There is no god"!!!!!

                Anyway ,a word of warning,if the meaning of the word "Allah"carries on being discussed ,it might disappear altogether ,then there will be no god?
                Do you think the forum will still function? Silly I know,like wanting to know what "Allah" means?
                GOD bless.
                Peace.

                If it follows the patterns of human behaviour what will happen is that a new word will be introduced or invented to take the place of the word "God", we know what happens with euphemisms and today particularly. starting witht he acronymsand follwwing with the "promotion" of everything without thanging anything, we will find some "Existence Coordinator" "Executif Chief of Universal Being", or whatever. ?Real, real fun!

                Salaam

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • G Offline
                  G Offline
                  good_logic
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  Yes indeed huruf, call "him..." Allah,Al-Rahman,GOD, The Principal Co-ordinator...You will never run out of names. Does it really matter?

                  Perhaps "Allah" is worth more credits than the other names?I have known this to be said and other daft irrelevant nonsense!!!

                  GOD bless you.
                  Peace.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • The_SardarT Offline
                    The_SardarT Offline
                    The_Sardar
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    Salam everyone i found this post which 9 years old which im currently reading https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16710.0

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • The_SardarT Offline
                      The_SardarT Offline
                      The_Sardar
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #11

                      I noticed in some verses in the Quran the word Allah is missing it's alif for example this verse

                      2165

                      The ones with alif is the one marked brown & those without the alif is marked green.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • H Offline
                        H Offline
                        huruf
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #12

                        I noticed in some verses in the Quran the word Allah is missing it's alif for example this verse

                        2165

                        The ones with alif is the one marked brown & those without the alif is marked green.

                        The green are possessive construction.

                        Salaam

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • The_SardarT Offline
                          The_SardarT Offline
                          The_Sardar
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #13

                          The green are possessive construction.

                          Salaam

                          Possessive construction? ???

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • N Offline
                            N Offline
                            Novice
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #14

                            The green are possessive construction.

                            Salaam

                            Salaam huruf

                            The words in red are "lillahi" where "li" is harf e jar meaning "for". It is a "jaar majroor" construction. A possessive construction is like "kitab ullahi".

                            @Sardar

                            The attachment of "li" with the word Allah removes the letter alif and make it "Lillahi" which means "for Allah".

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • The_SardarT Offline
                              The_SardarT Offline
                              The_Sardar
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #15

                              @Sardar

                              The attachment of "li" with the word Allah removes the letter alif and make it "Lillahi" which means "for Allah".

                              I noticed i found this from this post about Allah being a common noun https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16710.0

                              By the way what do you think about the article in the first page about the term Allah? Here is the link from the first page http//ahleaqal.blogspot.se/2017/05/the-linguistic-analysis-of-term-allah.html

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • N Offline
                                N Offline
                                Novice
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #16

                                Salaam Sardar

                                Quote "This term is a compound of words,." unquote

                                So as per this quote the word Allah means "THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM" Lets see how it fits in the following term

                                323 ...... .......

                                So which translation of this verse make sense

                                They are called to book of Allah
                                or
                                They are called to book of THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM

                                Regards

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • The_SardarT Offline
                                  The_SardarT Offline
                                  The_Sardar
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #17

                                  Salaam Sardar

                                  Quote "This term is a compound of words,." unquote

                                  So as per this quote the word Allah means "THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM" Lets see how it fits in the following term

                                  323 ...... .......

                                  So which translation of this verse make sense

                                  They are called to book of Allah
                                  or
                                  They are called to book of THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM

                                  Regards

                                  Obviously the one i marked yellow.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • The_SardarT Offline
                                    The_SardarT Offline
                                    The_Sardar
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #18

                                    So what do you think of this article brother of Mankind Novice, do you think this person have valid points in his article or is he/she going off track?

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • N Offline
                                      N Offline
                                      Novice
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #19

                                      Obviously the one i marked yellow.

                                      Brother Sardar do you still have to ask me about the article. You just rejected his meanings of the word Allah.

                                      Regards

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • The_SardarT Offline
                                        The_SardarT Offline
                                        The_Sardar
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #20

                                        Brother Sardar do you still have to ask me about the article. You just rejected his meanings of the word Allah.

                                        Regards

                                        Well i wondered what you thought rest of the article..sorry -[

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • N Offline
                                          N Offline
                                          Novice
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #21

                                          Well i wondered what you thought rest of the article..sorry -[

                                          The name of article is "THE LINGUISTIC ANALYSIS OF THE TERM ALLAH"

                                          You did not accept the conclusion that Allah means "THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM" so what value you assign to the article brother.

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Users