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    Salamun Alaykum i found this and im not quite sure if i agree or not agree but i wanna your honest thoughts on this. http//ahleaqal.blogspot.se/2017/05/the-linguistic-analysis-of-term-allah.html

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      This assumption is not correct. However, it is correct Allah is not a proper noun.

      Allah is from a root found in lexicons and etymological sources as Alef-Lam-Lam. Allah is a remarkable unique formula including an end which is commonly known as third person singular.

      Allah basically means "Is Like (a) Who"", based on the same root as is used in the famous AL prefix. For further knowing about that I cannot disclose on this forum, but I can tell Allah does not mean what people are used to.

      Allah is not from a nonexistent root called Alif-Lam-Heh. That root does not exist. Eleh is no more than AL prefix on a third person singular pronoun suffix. Simple grammar. It means "the he/she/it". Allah is a slightly more evolved form, meaning "the like he/she/it". Basically it refers to someone's status as a being.

      Be well
      Qarael Amenuel

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        This assumption is not correct. However, it is correct Allah is not a proper noun.

        Allah is from a root found in lexicons and etymological sources as Alef-Lam-Lam. Allah is a remarkable unique formula including an end which is commonly known as third person singular.

        Allah basically means "Is Like (a) Who"", based on the same root as is used in the famous AL prefix. For further knowing about that I cannot disclose on this forum, but I can tell Allah does not mean what people are used to.

        Allah is not from a nonexistent root called Alif-Lam-Heh. That root does not exist. Eleh is no more than AL prefix on a third person singular pronoun suffix. Simple grammar. It means "the he/she/it". Allah is a slightly more evolved form, meaning "the like he/she/it". Basically it refers to someone's status as a being.

        Be well
        Qarael Amenuel

        Salam brother of Mankind Amenuel, I went to project check the root word meaning of Allah and i found this

        Alif-Lam-ha = to serve, worship or adore; to protect, grant refuge, preserve save, rescue, liberate; object of worship ie God; (Alif-Lam-Lam-ha) God, the one true God applied as a proper name denoting the true god, comprising all the excellent divine names; a unity comprising all the essences of existing things.

        allahumma "O God!" 326, 5114, 832, 1010, 3946
        allah
        "there is no god but God" 2255, 32, 318, 362, 487, 208, 2014, 2098, 2726, 2870, 3735, 3865, 4719, 5922, 5923, 6413
        "He is God, that is God" 63, 695, 3513, 396
        "Belonging to God" 2115, 2142, 2284, 328, 3109, 3129, 3180, 4126, 4131, 4131, 4132, 4170, 612, 6136, 6136, 81, 841, 1055, 1066, 142, 2385, 2387, 2389, 2464, 3126, 484, 487, 5325, 5331, 5710, 597, 637
        "By God" 1273, 1285, 1291, 1295, 1656, 1663, 2157, 2697, 3756
        "With or from God; in God's sight" ('ind Allah) 279, 294, 2110, 2217, 2282, 314, 337, 378, 378, 3163, 3198, 3198, 478, 478, 494, 6124, 7131, 7187, 822, 828, 855, 919, 920, 922, 936, 999, 1446, 1695, 1696, 2413, 2415, 2461, 2747, 2860, 3039, 3353, 3363, 3369, 4035, 4152, 4236, 4610, 485, 613, 6211, 6415, 7320
        "God is with" 940, 4735
        "Apart from God" (dun Allah) 223, 364, 5116, 916, 931, 1018, 1037, 1843, 1981, 2724, 2881, 2925, 3674, 3786, 4074, 4628, 5358, 7125
        "Other than God" (ghayr Allah) 2173, 482, 53, 614, 619, 640, 646, 6114, 6145, 6164, 7140, 1596, 1652, 16115, 1722, 1739, 2122, 2760, 2761, 2762, 2763, 2764, 2871, 2872, 353, 3964, 5026, 5151, 5243

        ilah n.m. (pl. alihah) 2133, 2133, 2133, 2163, 2163, 4171, 573, 619, 931, 1452, 1622, 1622, 1651, 18110, 18110, 2098, 21108, 21108, 2234, 2234, 2838, 2946, 2946, 374, 385, 4037, 416, 416, 4384, 4384, 1143

        other (false) gods - 2163, 2255, 32, 36, 318, 318, 362, 487, 573, 5116, 619, 646, 674, 6102, 6106, 759, 765, 773, 785, 7127, 7138, 7138, 7140, 7158, 931, 9129, 1090, 1114, 1150, 1153, 1154, 1161, 1184, 11101, 1330, 1596, 162, 1651, 1722, 1739, 1742, 1814, 1815, 1946, 1981, 208, 2014, 2088, 2088, 2097, 2098, 2121, 2122, 2124, 2125, 2129, 2136, 2143, 2159, 2162, 2168, 2187, 2199, 2323, 2332, 2391, 2391, 23116, 23117, 253, 2542, 2543, 2568, 2629, 26213, 2726, 2760, 2761, 2762, 2763, 2764, 2838, 2870, 2871, 2872, 2888, 2888, 353, 3623, 3674, 3735, 3736, 3786, 3791, 385, 386, 3791, 385, 386, 3865, 396, 403, 4062, 4065, 4345, 4358, 448, 4523, 4622, 4628, 4719, 5026, 5151, 5243, 5922, 5923, 6413, 7123, 739

        Lane's Lexicon, Volume 1, pages 119, 120 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=alh

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          Allah is not from a nonexistent root called Alif-Lam-Heh. That root does not exist. Eleh is no more than AL prefix on a third person singular pronoun suffix. Simple grammar. It means "the he/she/it". Allah is a slightly more evolved form, meaning "the like he/she/it". Basically it refers to someone's status as a being.
          Be well
          Qarael Amenuel

          Being? Like some sort energy?

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            A word is what anybody's understanding can make of it. You cannot teach nor change nor do anything to instil any meaning of any word into a person without that person having experienced the necessary at whatever level to realise the meaning you want to transmit. That is, whatever you want to transmit will adjust to what the person is capable of perceiving and therefore receiving.

            Allah, God, Dios, whatever is what the receiver can make of it. By itself is nothing. Allah, God, Dios, whatever, has been transmited as the vehicle for a concept of spiritual knowledge which is very, very, very wide, from the most base and elementary understanding of origin of being to the most developped and visionary and experienced knowledge of divine inspiration and vision.

            Torturing a word will not make it speak louder nor clearer. It has nothing to confess, but the hearts of the people are the ones that know its meaningin whatever measure.

            Salaam

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              Peace.
              Sister huruf ,I like what you say here,quote
              Torturing a word will not make it speak louder nor clearer. It has nothing to confess, but the hearts of the people are the ones that know its meaning in whatever measure.

              It seems some topics here are repeating the "torture" again and again,with no gain whatsoever to anyone.

              And sometimes we think we can make words speak louder and clearer by using a bigger font size? or highlight the colour? where in fact it is just "double torture"!!!!

              Our words run out quite quickly and we keep repeating the same old boring stuff.

              The word "Allah" has been discussed to death,until it became" There is no god"!!!!!

              Anyway ,a word of warning,if the meaning of the word "Allah"carries on being discussed ,it might disappear altogether ,then there will be no god?
              Do you think the forum will still function? Silly I know,like wanting to know what "Allah" means?
              GOD bless.
              Peace.

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                Peace.

                The word "Allah" has been discussed to death,until it became" There is no god"!!!!!

                Anyway ,a word of warning,if the meaning of the word "Allah"carries on being discussed ,it might disappear altogether ,then there will be no god?
                Do you think the forum will still function? Silly I know,like wanting to know what "Allah" means?
                GOD bless.
                Peace.

                Sounds like atheistic influence being infecting the minds. No offense to atheists by the way.

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                  Peace.
                  Sister huruf ,I like what you say here,quote
                  Torturing a word will not make it speak louder nor clearer. It has nothing to confess, but the hearts of the people are the ones that know its meaning in whatever measure.

                  It seems some topics here are repeating the "torture" again and again,with no gain whatsoever to anyone.

                  And sometimes we think we can make words speak louder and clearer by using a bigger font size? or highlight the colour? where in fact it is just "double torture"!!!!

                  Our words run out quite quickly and we keep repeating the same old boring stuff.

                  The word "Allah" has been discussed to death,until it became" There is no god"!!!!!

                  Anyway ,a word of warning,if the meaning of the word "Allah"carries on being discussed ,it might disappear altogether ,then there will be no god?
                  Do you think the forum will still function? Silly I know,like wanting to know what "Allah" means?
                  GOD bless.
                  Peace.

                  If it follows the patterns of human behaviour what will happen is that a new word will be introduced or invented to take the place of the word "God", we know what happens with euphemisms and today particularly. starting witht he acronymsand follwwing with the "promotion" of everything without thanging anything, we will find some "Existence Coordinator" "Executif Chief of Universal Being", or whatever. ?Real, real fun!

                  Salaam

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                    Yes indeed huruf, call "him..." Allah,Al-Rahman,GOD, The Principal Co-ordinator...You will never run out of names. Does it really matter?

                    Perhaps "Allah" is worth more credits than the other names?I have known this to be said and other daft irrelevant nonsense!!!

                    GOD bless you.
                    Peace.

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                      Salam everyone i found this post which 9 years old which im currently reading https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16710.0

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                        I noticed in some verses in the Quran the word Allah is missing it's alif for example this verse

                        2165

                        The ones with alif is the one marked brown & those without the alif is marked green.

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                          I noticed in some verses in the Quran the word Allah is missing it's alif for example this verse

                          2165

                          The ones with alif is the one marked brown & those without the alif is marked green.

                          The green are possessive construction.

                          Salaam

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                            The_Sardar
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                            The green are possessive construction.

                            Salaam

                            Possessive construction? ???

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                              The green are possessive construction.

                              Salaam

                              Salaam huruf

                              The words in red are "lillahi" where "li" is harf e jar meaning "for". It is a "jaar majroor" construction. A possessive construction is like "kitab ullahi".

                              @Sardar

                              The attachment of "li" with the word Allah removes the letter alif and make it "Lillahi" which means "for Allah".

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                                @Sardar

                                The attachment of "li" with the word Allah removes the letter alif and make it "Lillahi" which means "for Allah".

                                I noticed i found this from this post about Allah being a common noun https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16710.0

                                By the way what do you think about the article in the first page about the term Allah? Here is the link from the first page http//ahleaqal.blogspot.se/2017/05/the-linguistic-analysis-of-term-allah.html

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                                  Salaam Sardar

                                  Quote "This term is a compound of words,." unquote

                                  So as per this quote the word Allah means "THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM" Lets see how it fits in the following term

                                  323 ...... .......

                                  So which translation of this verse make sense

                                  They are called to book of Allah
                                  or
                                  They are called to book of THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM

                                  Regards

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                                    Salaam Sardar

                                    Quote "This term is a compound of words,." unquote

                                    So as per this quote the word Allah means "THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM" Lets see how it fits in the following term

                                    323 ...... .......

                                    So which translation of this verse make sense

                                    They are called to book of Allah
                                    or
                                    They are called to book of THERE IS NOTHING FOR HIM

                                    Regards

                                    Obviously the one i marked yellow.

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                                      So what do you think of this article brother of Mankind Novice, do you think this person have valid points in his article or is he/she going off track?

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                                        Obviously the one i marked yellow.

                                        Brother Sardar do you still have to ask me about the article. You just rejected his meanings of the word Allah.

                                        Regards

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                                          Brother Sardar do you still have to ask me about the article. You just rejected his meanings of the word Allah.

                                          Regards

                                          Well i wondered what you thought rest of the article..sorry -[

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