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Did staff of Moses (AS) really turn into snake?

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  • The_SardarT Offline
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    1. When Moses got the first revelation he saw fire and all his conversation with God was around the fire. Again support the theory that his staff was filled with mercury which i strongly believe that given by his step father Pharo. He was brought up in Pharo's temple but he was not interested in magic.
    2. When God asked Moses to threw staff it moved like snake. It didn't turn into snake but moved "LIKE" snake. Two times in the Quran Allah mentioned it which again support this theory.
    3. God replied in chapter 20 verse 21 . God used the word "" and not "" which means staff "" was changed again supports the theory.
    4. The time which magicians choose for competition was interesting.
    5. God knew before that Pharos would not be impressed by this act and in order to defeat Moses he would gather people to show them that he had greater magician then Moses in order to strengthen his grip. This is the time to expose their lies. People would never believe Moses until their lies not exposed.
    6. When Moses got those two signs from God the verses after that were very interesting in chapter 20. He said Moses] said, "My Lord, expand for me my breast (25) And ease for me my task (26) And untie the knot from my tongue (27) That they may understand my speech. (2. Again support my theory that God's scheme was to expose their lies and then spread the message of God.

    What are the arabic words? So i can show everyone the root word meanings.

    Edit* I found one of them which i think it's seerataha (&#1575

    Siin-Ya-Ra ( &#1585 = to go, travel, be current, move, journey. sairun - the act of giving, journey. siratun - state/condition, make/form. sayyaratun - company of travellers, caravan.

    sara vb. (1)
    perf. act. 2829
    impf. act. 12109, 2246, 309, 3544, 4021, 4082, 4710, 5210
    impv. 3137, 611, 1636, 2769, 2920, 3042, 3418
    n.vb. 3418, 5210

    sayyarah n.f. 596, 1210, 1219

    sirah n.f. 2021

    sayyara vb. (2) impf. act. 1022, 1847
    perf. pass. 1331, 7820, 813

    LL, V4, p 207, 208 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=syr

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      Peace Sardar,

      Please check Lane?s dictionary, you will find few examples.

      Salam
      NK

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        Peace Sardar,

        Please check Lane?s dictionary, you will find few examples.

        Salam
        NK

        Salam/Peace i will post the pages from Lane's Lexicon of Siin-Ra-Yaa

        http//ejtaal.net/aa/img/ll/15/ll-1530.png

        http//ejtaal.net/aa/img/ll/15/ll-1531.png

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          I do not think anything can be proved about the story of Musa and Fir3awn studying the history of Anciente Egypt, because nothing tin the Qur'an suggests that Musa was there or that those wvents took pace in Egypt or that the kings of Egypt were in any way involved in them. Fir3awn is at most a small city lord of some place, but not of Wfypt least o all king of Egypt.

          Also, a lot can be read about the history of Acient Egypt but a big trouble with it is that it is mostly shaped from what the Bible and, less but also, the ideas shaped by Roman and Greek cultural conceptions. One has to pick very carefully about what one reads concerning Ancient Egyptian history.

          Peace,

          how do you explain that Egypt was always called "Misr" from waaay long before the Qur'an?

          Why would Allah call another place "Misr" if the people of that time knew "Misr" as Egypt? Where is Misr if it is not Egypt, what is the Qur'anic evidence that it is not?

          The Qur'anic evidence that it is indeed Egypt, or a part of it, is present today

          The Qur'an says that the body of Pharaoh was preserved and made as a sign for us, Maurice Bucaille found the body of a Pharaoh named Ramses II whose autopsy revealed that he died from drowning, and a while later it was made into a mummy.

          The Qur'an also mentioned Haman, and after centuries of Christians mocking the Qur'an because Haman in the Bible is another character, ancient hieroglyphs showed clearly the name "Haman" as the chief of the stone quarry workers.

          The Qur'an also mentioned that Haman was commanded to build a tower, using baked clay, and recently a group of scientist discovered that some parts of the pyramid of Giza are not entirely made of limestone, but of baked clay.
          https//www.livescience.com/1554-surprising-truth-great-pyramids-built.html

          So, we are back to square one To prove or understand the Qur'an we should stick to the Qur'an and sound reasonning. Bringing purported history into the fray will set us back into importing ,once more, bilbical understandings into the Qur'an, without taking duly into account what the Qur'an itself is there to convey.

          Mohammed was not in doubt about the Book of Moses reaching him

          And We have given Moses the Book; so do not be in any doubt about meeting Him its reaching; and We made it a guide for the Children of Israel.
          3223

          Jesus was also taught the Torah

          And He teaches him the Book and the Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel.
          348

          We should not reject the Biblical Books that easy, in them is still the Guidance. Said that, in them there is also the additions and omission of men. We are the readers and we must be wise in interpreting it, and not rejecting it altogether. The Qur'an is the last Book of the Bible, and their verses are often linked together.
          The Qur'an was revealed to correct not to substitute the previous inspired Books.

          On Topic

          I watched the video, and I find his view very interesting, except that I have a few problems...
          If Moses did prepare the staff himself with magic, why was he scared when he threw it the first time?
          Why does Allah ask Moses to use the staff when crossing the sea? Can mercury produce such a thing?
          How did the golden calf use to emit sounds/cries? The Sumerian tells Aaron and Moses that "he noticed something that the others did not", so he grab soil from where Moses walked, and cast it into the calf. Most likeley, he saw the staff of Moses producing some kind of special effect.

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            Misr is a common name, which like for instance in London with the name The City, may be made into a proper name for those who know it so, but basically it is not the name of a place but the common name for peopled places. Egypt was not called Misr in ancient Egyptian nor in older Arabic. Cairo, today is called Masr, as it would be called the City, because it was very populated, the same as when people living around a town, calle such a town, merely town.

            Fir3awn is a proper name, not a title. The kings of Egypt were kings, not pharaoh or anything like that, that was borrowed from the Bible which took a proper name, Firwawn, and made a title out of it for its particular purposes.

            As to the Qur'an,
            Did Egypt have several gates to enter itas the sons of Ya3ub are told to enter thorugh different gates?

            Has God levelled the pyramids or the sphinx or the ancient Egptian temples as it is said that He would have done in 7.138 if in fact He is referring to Egypt? Did the King of Egypt have to recruit people from hamlets in order to go after Musa's people as it is depicted int he Qur'an Fir3awn did? The things that re adscribed to a misr in the Qur'an cannot apply to Egypt, to Ancient Egypt. It does nto match, not at all.

            m-S-r is an Arabic root which means
            found, settle, civilise, colonize; to become a propulated, civilised area, become a city, a metropolis,

            misr city, metropolis, capital,

            Salaam

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              For another approach, you may wish to have a look at this post
              https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12328.msg96637#msg96637

              Peace

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                For another approach, you may wish to have a look at this post
                https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12328.msg96637#msg96637

                Peace

                Salam/Peace JM, what are your thoughts on the video and this

                Okay i found 3 verses that mentions the snake or serpent as Abu Layth Al-Maliki mentioned and it's 7107, 2020 and 2632 and i think it's best that i should show the verses with context in arabic because i am uncertain the translation for this topic and it's going to be a long list so please, have patience and read

                7100
                Awa lam yahdi lillatheena yarithoonaal-arda min baAAdi ahliha an law nashao asabnahumbithunoobihim wanatbaAAu AAala quloobihimfahum la yasmaAAoona

                7101
                Tilka alqura naqussu AAalaykamin anba-iha walaqad jaat-hum rusuluhum bialbayyinatifama kanoo liyu/minoo bima kaththaboomin qablu kathalika yatbaAAu Allahu AAalaquloobi alkafireena

                7102
                Wama wajadna li-aktharihimmin AAahdin wa-in wajadna aktharahum lafasiqeena

                7103
                Thumma baAAathna min baAAdihim moosabi-ayatina ila firAAawna wamala-ihifathalamoo biha faonuthurkayfa kana AAaqibatu almufsideena

                7104
                Waqala moosa yafirAAawnu innee rasoolun min rabbi alAAalameena

                7105
                Haqeequn AAala an laaqoola AAala Allahi illa alhaqqa qadji/tukum bibayyinatin min rabbikum faarsil maAAiya banee isra-eela

                7106
                Qala in kunta ji/ta bi-ayatinfa/ti biha in kunta mina alssadiqeena

                7107
                Faalqa AAasahu fa-ithahiya thuAAbanun mubeenun

                7108
                WanazaAAa yadahu fa-itha hiya baydaolilnnathireena

                7109
                Qala almalao min qawmi firAAawnainna hatha lasahirun AAaleemun

                7110
                Yureedu an yukhrijakum min ardikumfamatha ta/muroona

                7111
                Qaloo arjih waakhahu waarsilfee almada-ini hashireena

                7112
                Ya/tooka bikulli sahirin AAaleemin

                7113
                Wajaa alssaharatufirAAawna qaloo inna lana laajran in kunnanahnu alghalibeena

                7114
                Qala naAAam wa-innakum laminaalmuqarrabeena

                7115
                Qaloo ya moosa immaan tulqiya wa-imma an nakoona nahnu almulqeena

                7116
                Qala alqoo falamma alqaw saharooaAAyuna alnnasi waistarhaboohum wajaoobisihrin AAatheemin

                7117
                Waawhayna ila moosaan alqi AAasaka fa-itha hiya talqafu maya/fikoona

                7118
                FawaqaAAa alhaqqu wabatala makanoo yaAAmaloona

                7119
                Faghuliboo hunalika wainqalaboosaghireena

                7120
                Waolqiya alssaharatu sajideena

                7121
                Qaloo amanna birabbialAAalameena

                7122
                Rabbi moosa waharoona

                209
                Wahal ataka hadeethu moosa

                2010
                Ith raa naran faqalali-ahlihi omkuthoo innee anastu naran laAAallee ateekumminha biqabasin aw ajidu AAala alnnarihudan

                2011
                Falamma ataha noodiya yamoosa

                2012
                Innee ana rabbuka faikhlaAAnaAAlayka innaka bialwadi almuqaddasi tuwan

                2013
                Waana ikhtartuka faistamiAAlima yooha

                2014
                Innanee ana Allahu lailaha illa ana faoAAbudnee waaqimi alssalatalithikree

                2015
                Inna alssaAAata atiyatunakadu okhfeeha litujza kullu nafsin bimatasAAa

                2016
                Fala yasuddannaka AAanhaman la yu/minu biha waittabaAAa hawahufatarda

                2017
                Wama tilka biyameenika ya moosa

                2018
                Qala hiya AAasaya atawakkaoAAalayha waahushshu biha AAala ghanameewaliya feeha maaribu okhra

                2019
                Qala alqiha ya moosa

                2020
                Faalqaha fa-itha hiya hayyatuntasAAa

                Here is something i noticed, Hayyatun (&#1577 come from the root word Ha-Ya-Ya ( &#1610 and from what i seen in PRL (Project Root-List) it does not mentioned the meaning snake or serpent

                Ha-Ya-Ya = (a doubly imperfect verb) To live, be alive, be ashamed, spend (the night) awake, fertilize the earth, keep anyone alive; spare any one, let anyone alive, remove prudency, modesty and shamefulness, make immodest, To be in good condition, have the means of subsistence, to be apparent or distinct, have prolonged or preserved life, free from evil or harm, have dominion, be honored, receive benefit, to salute, to enliven/revive/give life to, to nourish, vivify/re-vivify/revive/resuscitate, endue/quicken with life, (said of land) to be tilled and made productive, to remain awake, to shrink from a thing, to forbear, to feel or have a sense of or be moved or affected with shame/shyness/bashfulness, be ashamed/shy of doing a thing, disdain or scorn a thing, abstain from a thing/refuse to do it. (http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm)

                2021
                Qala khuthha walatakhaf sanuAAeeduha seerataha al-oola

                2022
                Waodmum yadaka ila janahikatakhruj baydaa min ghayri soo-in ayatan okhra

                2023
                Linuriyaka min ayatinaalkubra

                2024
                Ithhab ila firAAawna innahu tagha

                2025
                Qala rabbi ishrah lee sadree

                2026
                Wayassir lee amree

                2027
                Waohlul AAuqdatan min lisanee

                2028
                Yafqahoo qawlee

                2029
                WaijAAal lee wazeeran min ahlee

                2030
                Haroona akhee

                2031
                Oshdud bihi azree

                2032
                Waashrik-hu fee amree

                2033
                Kay nusabbihaka katheeran

                2034
                Wanathkuraka katheeran

                2035
                Innaka kunta bina baseeran

                2036
                Qala qad ooteeta su/laka yamoosa

                2037
                Walaqad mananna AAalayka marratanokhra

                2038
                Ith awhayna ilaommika ma yooha

                2039
                Ani iqthifeehi fee alttabootifaiqthifeehi fee alyammi falyulqihi alyammu bialssahiliya/khuthhu AAaduwwun lee waAAaduwwun lahu waalqaytuAAalayka mahabbatan minnee walitusnaAAa AAalaAAaynee

                2040
                Ith tamshee okhtuka fataqoolu haladullukum AAala man yakfuluhu farajaAAnaka ilaommika kay taqarra AAaynuha wala tahzanawaqatalta nafsan fanajjaynaka mina alghammi wafatannakafutoonan falabithta sineena fee ahli madyana thumma ji/ta AAalaqadarin ya moosa

                2041
                WaistanaAAtuka linafsee

                2042
                Ithhab anta waakhooka bi-ayateewala taniya fee thikree

                2043
                Ithhaba ila firAAawnainnahu tagha

                2044
                Faqoola lahu qawlan layyinanlaAAallahu yatathakkaru aw yakhsha

                2045
                Qala rabbana innananakhafu an yafruta AAalayna aw an yatgha

                2046
                Qala la takhafainnanee maAAakuma asmaAAu waara

                2047
                Fa/tiyahu faqoola innarasoola rabbika faarsil maAAana banee isra-eelawala tuAAaththibhum qad ji/naka bi-ayatinmin rabbika waalssalamu AAala mani ittabaAAaalhuda

                2048
                Inna qad oohiya ilaynaanna alAAathaba AAala man kaththaba watawalla

                2049
                Qala faman rabbukuma yamoosa

                2050
                Qala rabbuna allatheeaAAta kulla shay-in khalqahu thumma hada

                2051
                Qala fama balualqurooni al-oola

                2052
                Qala AAilmuha AAinda rabbeefee kitabin la yadillu rabbee walayansa

                2610
                Wa-ith nada rabbukamoosa ani i/ti alqawma alththalimeena

                2611
                Qawma firAAawna ala yattaqoona

                2612
                Qala rabbi innee akhafu anyukaththibooni

                2613
                Wayadeequ sadree walayantaliqu lisanee faarsil ila haroona

                2614
                Walahum AAalayya thanbun faakhafuan yaqtulooni

                2615
                Qala kalla faithhababi-ayatina inna maAAakum mustamiAAoona

                2616
                Fa/tiya firAAawna faqoola innarasoolu rabbi alAAalameena

                2617
                An arsil maAAana banee isra-eela

                2618
                Qala alam nurabbika feenawaleedan walabithta feena min AAumurika sineena

                2619
                WafaAAalta faAAlataka allatee faAAaltawaanta mina alkafireena

                2620
                Qala faAAaltuha ithanwaana mina alddalleena

                2621
                Fafarartu minkum lamma khiftukumfawahaba lee rabbee hukman wajaAAalanee mina almursaleena

                2622
                Watilka niAAmatun tamunnuha AAalayyaan AAabbadta banee isra-eela

                2623
                Qala firAAawnu wama rabbu alAAalameena

                2624
                Qala rabbu alssamawatiwaal-ardi wama baynahuma in kuntummooqineena

                2625
                Qala liman hawlahu alatastamiAAoona

                2626
                Qala rabbukum warabbu aba-ikumual-awwaleena

                2627
                Qala inna rasoolakumu allatheeorsila ilaykum lamajnoonun

                2628
                Qala rabbu almashriqi waalmaghribiwama baynahuma in kuntum taAAqiloona

                2629
                Qala la-ini ittakhathta ilahanghayree laajAAalannaka mina almasjooneena

                2630
                Qala awa law ji/tuka bishay-in mubeenin

                2631
                Qala fa/ti bihi in kunta mina alssadiqeena

                2632
                Faalqa AAasahu fa-ithahiya thuAAbanun mubeenun

                2633
                WanazaAAa yadahu fa-itha hiya baydaolilnnathireena

                2634
                Qala lilmala-i hawlahu inna hathalasahirun AAaleemun

                2635
                Yureedu an yukhrijakum min ardikumbisihrihi famatha ta/muroona

                2636
                Qaloo arjih waakhahu waibAAathfee almada-ini hashireena

                2637
                Ya/tooka bikulli sahharin AAaleemin

                2638
                FajumiAAa alssaharatu limeeqatiyawmin maAAloomin

                2639
                Waqeela lilnnasi hal antummujtamiAAoona

                2640
                LaAAallana nattabiAAu alssaharatain kanoo humu alghalibeena

                2641
                Falamma jaa alssaharatuqaloo lifirAAawna a-inna lana laajran in kunnanahnu alghalibeena

                2642
                Qala naAAam wa-innakum ithanlamina almuqarrabeena

                2643
                Qala lahum moosa alqoo maantum mulqoona

                2644
                Faalqaw hibalahum waAAisiyyahumwaqaloo biAAizzati firAAawna inna lanahnualghaliboona

                2645
                Faalqa moosa AAasahufa-itha hiya talqafu ma ya/fikoona

                2646
                Faolqiya alssaharatu sajideena

                2647
                Qaloo amanna birabbialAAalameena

                2648
                Rabbi moosa waharoona

                2645
                Faalqa moosa AAasahufa-itha hiya talqafu ma ya/fikoona

                Now here is something interesting, talqafu (&#1601 in in it's root word (Lam-Qaf-Fa - &#1601 means To catch up hurriedly, seize, swallow up quickly, destroy, undo, eat up, catch and retain, collapse, fall upon the enemy, crumble down and Ya/Fikoona in it's root word (Alif-Fa-Kaf - &#1603 means

                change its manner/state, turn it away/back, change/pervert opinion/judgement, deceive, lie/falsehood/untruth, overturn, seduce.

                And look at that the derivatives!

                Ya'fikuuna (imp. 3rd. p. m. plu.) They feign, make a false show.
                Ta'fiku (imp. 2nd. p. m. plu.) Thou turn away, seduce.
                Tu'fikuuna (pip. 2nd. p. plu.) You are turned away.
                Ufika (pp. 3rd. p. m. sing.) He was turned away, was deluded away.
                Yu'faku (pip. 3rd. p. m. sing.) He is turned away.
                Yu'fakuuna (pip. 3rd. p. m. plu.) They are turned away.
                Ifkun (n.) Lie; Slander.
                Affaak (n) Big slanderer.
                Mu'tafikatu (ap-der. f. sing. VIII) Subverted; Overturned; Pulled down (city).
                Mu'taftUt (ap-der. f. plu. VIII) Subverted.

                What are the arabic words? So i can show everyone the root word meanings.

                Edit* I found one of them which i think it's seerataha (&#1575

                Siin-Ya-Ra ( &#1585 = to go, travel, be current, move, journey. sairun - the act of giving, journey. siratun - state/condition, make/form. sayyaratun - company of travellers, caravan.

                sara vb. (1)
                perf. act. 2829
                impf. act. 12109, 2246, 309, 3544, 4021, 4082, 4710, 5210
                impv. 3137, 611, 1636, 2769, 2920, 3042, 3418
                n.vb. 3418, 5210

                sayyarah n.f. 596, 1210, 1219

                sirah n.f. 2021

                sayyara vb. (2) impf. act. 1022, 1847
                perf. pass. 1331, 7820, 813

                LL, V4, p 207, 208 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=syr

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                  For another approach, you may wish to have a look at this post
                  https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=12328.msg96637#msg96637

                  Peace
                  He said ?So who is the lord of you both O Moses??
                  He said ?Our Lord is the One who gave everything its creation, then guided.?
                  He said ?What then has happened to the previous generations??
                  He said ?It?s knowledge is with my Lord, in a record. My Lord does not err or forget.?
                  The One who made for you the Earth habitable and He made ways for you in it, and He brought down water from the sky, so We brought out with it pairs of vegetation of all types.
                  Eat and raise your livestock, in that are signs for those of thought.
                  From it We created you and in it We return you, and from it We bring you out another time.
                  And We showed him Our signs, all of them, but he denied and refused.
                  He said ?Have you come to us to take us out of our land with your magic O Moses??

                  Then after them We sent Moses with Our signs to Pharaoh and his leaders. But they did wrong in them, so see how is the end of the corrupters.
                  And Moses said ?O Pharaoh, I am a messenger from the Lord of the worlds.?
                  ?It is not proper for me to say about God except the truth; I have come to you with proof from your Lord. So send with me the Children of Israel.?
                  He said ?If you have come with a sign then bring it, if you are of the truthful??
                  He threw down his staff and it manifested into a serpent.
                  And he drew out his hand, and it became pure white for the onlookers.
                  The commanders from among the people of Pharaoh said ?This is a knowledgeable magician!?
                  ?He wishes to drive you out of your land; what is your command??

                  In the first account (), Moses explains to Pharaoh all the signs of the universes. He shows the signs of God exactly in the same way as in the Quran.
                  And, in the second account (), Moses turns his staff into a serpent, and show his hand white.

                  My understanding is that the second account is a metaphor of the first one. It means that the discourse of Moses was so convincing that it was as if he has turned a staff into a serpent.

                  If you want to check the dictionary, you will see that a white hand (yad baida) can mean an argument very clear, a demonstrating, a demonstrated argument, an allegation, or an evidence.

                  Good explanation, sound.

                  Miracle is just another word for saying "I do not know how it happenned, or how it was done".

                  As soon as we know how something was done we stop believing it is a miracle.

                  The fact is tht we think we know how many things are done, but the fact is that ONLY GOD knows how He does thing, and He is the one who does absolutely everything. And that there is nothing that is not a miracle. To believe in miracles means that the person who believes that does not believe that everyhting is a miracle, because neither we can replicate it nor can we explain it completely, although many times we may think we do know, but we just know something, a little bit.

                  I disagree with the people who believe in miracles because they really are not appreciating God's creation, if they did they would realise that there is nothing that is not a miracle.

                  Salaam

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                    Peace Sardar,

                    I am not sure if you got the answer what you were looking for. The meaning of the word which you are looking for simply means condition or state but not physical as for physical condition Quran used a different word. I hope it helps.

                    Salam,
                    NK

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                      Peace Sardar,

                      I am not sure if you got the answer what you were looking for. The meaning of the word which you are looking for simply means condition or state but not physical as for physical condition Quran used a different word. I hope it helps.

                      Salam,
                      NK

                      Which arabic words in the verses? So i can find the root words in PRL. Sorry if i forgot, my memory is not the best sometimes.

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                        Peace IsaMuslim,

                        You have asked following questions in your post

                        <<<If Moses did prepare the staff himself with magic, why was he scared when he threw it the first time?
                        Why does Allah ask Moses to use the staff when crossing the sea? Can mercury produce such a thing?
                        How did the golden calf use to emit sounds/cries? The Sumerian tells Aaron and Moses that "he noticed something that the others did not", so he grab soil from where Moses walked, and cast it into the calf. Most likeley, he saw the staff of Moses producing some kind of special effect.>>>

                        I will answer only those questions which are related to this topic. Other questions require lengthy answers.

                        First question Moses did not prepare the staff. That is the point. He was herding the sheep in Maiden for 8 years and serpent was not an unusual experience for him. Like i said in my answer (if you get the chance to read it). Moses was brought up in Pharaoh's house. In their circle they knew the trick how to magically turn sticks into serpents. I have strong believe that this staff was given to him by his step-father who died later on. Like others, he was also an honourable member of their family. It was an unusual experience for Moses when he saw his staff moving like a serpent. Moses didn't know that the staff which he was carrying for herding the sheep had the potential to move like serpent when liquid mercury become hot but God knew. His reaction was very natural.

                        Second question In Arabic staff also means congregation, people or nation. Staff has nothing to do with the sea. Sea recedes during high and low tides which is a natural phenomena. It is very common these days. For your reference please watch the video below.

                        https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfeCa3lwvQE

                        I hope it helps.

                        Salam,
                        NK

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                          In Arabic staff also means congregation, people or nation. Staff has nothing to do with the sea. Sea recedes during high and low tides which is a natural phenomena. It is very common these days. For your reference please watch the video below.

                          https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfeCa3lwvQE

                          I hope it helps.

                          Salam,
                          NK

                          Is this arabic word you are referring to?

                          Ayn-Sad-Waw = to strike with a stick. asiya/ya'sa - to take a stick, come together, collection, accumulation, amazing, gathering, assemblage, congregation. asa - staff, stick, rod, supports, nation, mastery, people, party, tongue, skin, bone. idrib bi asaka al hajer - strike with your staff on the rock, go forth with your people.

                          asa n.f. (pl. isiy) 260, 7107, 7117, 7160, 2018, 2066, 2632, 2644, 2645, 2663, 2710, 2831

                          Lane's Lexicon, Volume 5, pages 353, 354 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=eSw

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                            Peace Sardar,

                            Yes, you are right about the root word of Staff.

                            For the root word of "SIRAT", On the PRL i have found this

                            Siin-Ya-Ra = to go, travel, be current, move, journey. sairun - the act of giving, journey. siratun - state/condition, make/form. sayyaratun - company of travellers, caravan.

                            sara vb. (1)
                            perf. act. 2829
                            impf. act. 12109, 2246, 309, 3544, 4021, 4082, 4710, 5210
                            impv. 3137, 611, 1636, 2769, 2920, 3042, 3418
                            n.vb. 3418, 5210

                            sayyarah n.f. 596, 1210, 1219

                            sirah n.f. 2021

                            sayyara vb. (2) impf. act. 1022, 1847
                            perf. pass. 1331, 7820, 813

                            LL, V4, p 207, 208 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=syr

                            I hope this time i be able to explain it clearly. I have made the meaning in BOLD for your convenience.

                            Salam,
                            NK

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