what is amal salih or good deed?
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I thought we were arguing about whether the disbelievers deserve to be punished or not. And by punished I mean in the hereafter.
And what's wrong in behaving well so that people love them?
This is the statement, that disbelievers are doing nothing wrong as long as they behave well.
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Thats what I believed the whole time? Are you saying we are arguing about that?
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I thought we were arguing about whether the disbelievers deserve to be punished or not. And by punished I mean in the hereafter.
This is God's business, not ours. I wouldn't discuss such issues.
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rotflThis is God's business, not ours. I wouldn't discuss such issues.
rotfl handshake I think it is worth discussing if it gets athiests to think more about their direction in life. But if its just for the sake of arguing then I agree its better we just say peace
1096 ?To you is your system, and to me is mine.?
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I thought it was you who started the subject of trust which aroused my interest, so it could be that you are in the process of going backward to justify your friend?s beliefs in no hell.
According to your interpretation of 449 your "non believing" friends are momins ???As long as I am all right mate that's all that matters yeah- I am not justifying any part of the belief of anybody. That's not my business.
- Not calling people non believers is not synonymous to calling them believers. I do not label anybody in this way. Is this hard to understand?
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Peace Zahra,
The quran lays a great emphasis on good deeds also known as amal salih in arabic. Does amal salih mean praying, giving charity, fasting etc or as I understand, it means doing good actions like helping the blind cross the road, helping the illeterate to read, giving a ride to the child to school who has missed his bus and has missed his exam etc? Please answer me. Thanking you
"What is Al 3amal al ssali7?"
The answer would be bringing out and working out the taqwa of our nafs. The taqwa that comes with the creation of the nafs (the spirit I suppose). Let me explain.
We are born with a nafs that is dual-nature. The nafs has both the mechanism to prevent harm, to protect, to build and all things positive taqwa, as well as the mechanism to destroy and harm and all things negative fojoor. So a human being knows, without even asking, whether what he is doing is good or bad. .We don't be good by doing good. We be good by allowing the goodness, the positivity that is already wired inside us, to come forth and work out for us and others, side by side with suppressing our inner, built in fojoor. So al 3amal al ssali7 starts from jihading or disciplining our dual-nature nafs.
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Peace Zahra,
"What is Al 3amal al ssali7?"
The answer would be bringing out and working out the taqwa of our nafs. The taqwa that comes with the creation of the nafs (the spirit I suppose). Let me explain.
We are born with a nafs that is dual-nature. The nafs has both the mechanism to prevent harm, to protect, to build and all things positive taqwa, as well as the mechanism to destroy and harm and all things negative fojoor. So a human being knows, without even asking, whether what he is doing is good or bad. .We don't be good by doing good. We be good by allowing the goodness, the positivity that is already wired inside us, to come forth and work out for us and others, side by side with suppressing our inner, built in fojoor. So al 3amal al ssali7 starts from jihading or disciplining our dual-nature nafs.
peace
TajAlhamdouilillah... wonderful answer... plain and clear... yay
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Peace Belalhammad,
Looking through this thread, I have noticed that in your reply # 18, in page # 2, you have messed up my reply #16 with Samia's reply # 17. You quoted Samia in your reply # 18, but instead of putting her name for the quote you put my name >!!?? You should have written Samia's name on the following quote, just as I did here
Rituals in the traditional way are not "3amal salih", that's why I do not believe in them. They might even turn to the opposite, like fasting a whole month and stopping or decreasing work during it and spending too much money on food...etc.
It was sister Samia in her reply # 17 who wrote the above and not me. So please, fix this mistake, will you!?
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Oh no, not me. I am immune from such misplaced trust, because I do not put believing in the existance of God and believing in being accountable to Him as preconditions for trusting people.The opposite of those who betrayed you.
What an unconditional (unqualified?) trust you place in your friends. I am sure you only say what they want to hear from you. If your "turely trusted friends" denying God, the Giver of all, does not offend you what will hmm
As the saying goes "Tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are" and need I remind you God also makes it clear that, if you prefer the unbelievers over the believers, you are one of them.-
I am not justifying any part of the belief of anybody. That's not my business.
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Not calling people non believers is not synonymous to calling them believers. I do not label anybody in this way. Is this hard to understand?
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So what is your business critisising the sunni and those who pray and go for Hajj even if they have no contact with you?
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No nothing is hard to understand when its comes from you; you are quite predictable and the kind of company you enjoy and are loyal to and place you trust in. As I said, as long as you are fine that's all that matters to you; the rest can go to hell. Oh sorry; no hell or heaven; you are far too liberal to believe in that wow
peace
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551-?O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them in friendship is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.?
564-?They are cursed for what they said!? As often as they light a fire for war, Allah extinguishes it. Their effort is for corruption in the land, and Allah loveth not corrupters.?
28-?The believers should not take the unbelievers as friends or helpers in preference to the believers. He who does this does not belong to Allah in anything, unless you have a fear of them
89-?Therefore, the curse of Allah is upon the unbelievers!?
297-?Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and messengers, to Gabriel and Michael, lo! Allah is an enemy of the unbelievers.?310-?Those who disbelieve, neither their riches nor their children shall save them from Allah. They shall become the fuel of the fire
319-?The only true faith in God?s sight is Islam. Those to whom the book was given disagreed among themselves only after knowledge had been given to them, being insolent among themselves. He who disbelieves the verses of Allah indeed Allah is swift in reckoning
12-16-?Allah made a covenant with the children of Israel?. But because they broke their covenant, we cursed them and hardened their hearts. They changed the words from their places and have forgotten a portion of what they were reminded?. With those who called themselves Christians, we made a covenant, but they have forgotten much of what they were reminded. Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred till the day of resurrection.?
930-?The Jews say Ezra is the son of Allah, while the Christians (who follow Paul) say the messiah is the son of Allah. such are their assertions, by which they imitate those who disbelieved before. Allah fights them! How perverted are they!?
933-?It is he who has sent forth his messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to uplift it above every religion, no matter how much the idolaters hate it.?
Islam does not seek equality with other religions. Islam must be above all others.949-?Hell shall encompass the unbelievers
973-?O Prophet, struggle with the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh with them. Their abode is Hell, an evil refuge indeed478-?But the unbelievers shall be the destroyed losers. He will bring their deeds to nothing
601-3-?O you who believe, you shall not befriend My enemies and your enemies, extending love and friendship to them, when they have disbelieved in the truth that has come to you. They persecute the messenger, and you, just because you believe in Allah, your Lord. If you mobilize to struggle in My cause, seeking My blessings, how can you secretly love them? I am fully aware of everything you conceal, and everything you declare. Those among you who do this have indeed strayed off the right path?. They want you to disbelieve. Your relatives and children can never help you. On the Day of Resurrection, He will judge among you. Allah is Seer of everything you do.?
Muslims are not to take non-Muslims as friends. Leniency is not to be shown to unbelieving friends and family. The spread of Islam through ?struggle? takes priority over these relationships.
619-?He has sent His messenger with the guidance and the true religion, and will make it dominate all religions, in spite of the idol worshipers
986-?The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the idolaters shall be for ever in the fire of gehenna (hell). They are the worst of all creatures.?& nope &
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551-?O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them in friendship is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.?
564-?They are cursed for what they said!? As often as they light a fire for war, Allah extinguishes it. Their effort is for corruption in the land, and Allah loveth not corrupters.?
28-?The believers should not take the unbelievers as friends or helpers in preference to the believers. He who does this does not belong to Allah in anything, unless you have a fear of them
89-?Therefore, the curse of Allah is upon the unbelievers!?
297-?Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and messengers, to Gabriel and Michael, lo! Allah is an enemy of the unbelievers.?310-?Those who disbelieve, neither their riches nor their children shall save them from Allah. They shall become the fuel of the fire
319-?The only true faith in God?s sight is Islam. Those to whom the book was given disagreed among themselves only after knowledge had been given to them, being insolent among themselves. He who disbelieves the verses of Allah indeed Allah is swift in reckoning
12-16-?Allah made a covenant with the children of Israel?. But because they broke their covenant, we cursed them and hardened their hearts. They changed the words from their places and have forgotten a portion of what they were reminded?. With those who called themselves Christians, we made a covenant, but they have forgotten much of what they were reminded. Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred till the day of resurrection.?
930-?The Jews say Ezra is the son of Allah, while the Christians (who follow Paul) say the messiah is the son of Allah. such are their assertions, by which they imitate those who disbelieved before. Allah fights them! How perverted are they!?
933-?It is he who has sent forth his messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to uplift it above every religion, no matter how much the idolaters hate it.?
Islam does not seek equality with other religions. Islam must be above all others.949-?Hell shall encompass the unbelievers
973-?O Prophet, struggle with the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh with them. Their abode is Hell, an evil refuge indeed478-?But the unbelievers shall be the destroyed losers. He will bring their deeds to nothing
601-3-?O you who believe, you shall not befriend My enemies and your enemies, extending love and friendship to them, when they have disbelieved in the truth that has come to you. They persecute the messenger, and you, just because you believe in Allah, your Lord. If you mobilize to struggle in My cause, seeking My blessings, how can you secretly love them? I am fully aware of everything you conceal, and everything you declare. Those among you who do this have indeed strayed off the right path?. They want you to disbelieve. Your relatives and children can never help you. On the Day of Resurrection, He will judge among you. Allah is Seer of everything you do.?
Muslims are not to take non-Muslims as friends. Leniency is not to be shown to unbelieving friends and family. The spread of Islam through ?struggle? takes priority over these relationships.
619-?He has sent His messenger with the guidance and the true religion, and will make it dominate all religions, in spite of the idol worshipers
986-?The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the idolaters shall be for ever in the fire of gehenna (hell). They are the worst of all creatures.?& nope &
Well said. I would also like to add
608 God does not forbid you from those who have not fought you because of your system, nor drove you out of your homes, that you deal kindly and equitably with them. For God loves the equitable.
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- So what is your business critisising the sunni and those who pray and go for Hajj even if they have no contact with you?
Good point, there are many members criticizing Sunnis because of their rituals. Aren't believers not supposed to mock anyone?
4911 O you who believe, let not a people ridicule other people, for they may be better than they. Nor shall any women ridicule other women, for they may be better than they. Nor shall you mock one another, or call each other names. Evil indeed is the reversion to wickedness after attaining faith. And anyone who does not repent, then these are the transgressors.
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Good point, there are many members criticizing Sunnis because of their rituals. Aren't believers not supposed to mock anyone?
4911 O you who believe, let not a people ridicule other people, for they may be better than they. Nor shall any women ridicule other women, for they may be better than they. Nor shall you mock one another, or call each other names. Evil indeed is the reversion to wickedness after attaining faith. And anyone who does not repent, then these are the transgressors.
nope Sunni are extremely dangerous they can mock, torture and kill you if they come to know that you are Hadith rejecter. &
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Believe me they are when you reject their fath in Mullahs and hadiths dont count one are two percent.
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So you too are in the business of sunni bashing, I think I have enough experience of my own and I never try to force my view on them I only tell them that the Qur'an has priority so first cover whatever is in the Qur'an and then we will discuss hedith. So far none except arrogant men who do not like to see woman having any say got irritated the rest agreed with me. I think it all depends on how you deal with anyone who has different faith from yours, if you attack them then they would do the same but if you politely draw their attention to vital points they would listen believe me this is my experience.
Be aware of them are they can eat you laugh
I see it other way round as you are the one who is mocking sunni yes