Belief in AlQuran
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4914
Say the A`raab "We believe."
qlati l-arbu mannSay, "Not you believe"; but say, "We submitted," and has not entered the Imaan in your hearts
qul lam tu'min walkin ql aslamn wa lamm yadkhuli l-mnu f qulbikumand if you obey Allah and His Messenger, not He deprive you of your deeds anything.
wa in tu l-laha wa raslahu l yalit'kum min amlikum shay'anIndeed Allah Gafuwr rahiym
inna l-laha ghafrun ramun4915
Only the believers those who believe with Allah and His Messenger,
innam l-mu'minna alladhna man bil-lahi wa raslihithen (do) not doubt and strive with their wealth and their lives in (the) way (of) Allah.
thumma lam yartb wa jhad bi-amwlihim wa anfusihim f sabli l-lahiThose they (are) the truthful."
ulika humu l-diqnaThe first word of verse (4915) is divided into 2 morphological segments. An accusative particle and preventive particle. The accusative particle belongs to a special group of words known as inna and her sisters ( ا. The preventive particle m stops inna from taking its normal role in the sentence. Together the segments are known as kfa wa makffa ( ة. (http//quran.uk.net/WordMorphology.aspx?location=%2849151%29)
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Peace Sarah,
What i mean is they believe based on what they know ?knowledge? and also what they?re told ?without? understanding. So the idea of them following jinn is well and truly possible even though they dunno what ?jinn? is, get it?
Yes I had this thought in the back of my mind concerning the jinn. But the verse states they were MUMIN in the jinn. Who goes around believing in jinn? Doesn't matter what you view them as be it physical beings, fantasies, hidden, etc. Who claims (again malayka say most of humanity) to believe in any of that?
Sure we need and want evidence but not all people do. Think about how many people are blind believers as i said, belief doesn?t need logic. I can believe Paris Hilton is the best thing on earth, i don?t need logic for that. Obviously i don't believe that but just saying sorry lame example but do you get my drift?
Who cares what most people do? Just because the belief of most people is illogical, doesn't mean ours should be. It doesn't prove anything. It just shows how sheepish humans are. I would rather concern myself with the quranic definition of iman. Have a look at 944-45 for another example of iman vs. no iman.
many people intentionally commit evil, for whatever gain it is they think they may gain. None of us a free from sin/evil.. could all of one persons sins be ?accidental?? it?d like to meet such a person, besides all sins are forgiven except the shirk ones. You can believe its teachings and aim to follow it and still falter but the point is to amend. Those who intentionally sin and continue to intentionally sin and continue to repeat the sin and then act like they don?t care because God forgives, well that?s another story.
Of course not all 'sins' are accidental. "God forgives all sins except shrik ones" I assume you speak of 448 or 3953? 448 says shrik is a big ithm. 3953 says god protects all zunoob period. . You are not getting my point. Intentions matter. You can say you believe in the quran and INTENTIONALLY do bad things. Would that mean you actually believe in its teachings? If I say I believe in the quran and become a serial killer, what does my belief in this book prove? Nothing. Actions and intent. A person's actions aren't necessarily tied into believing/not believing a book. Belief, in itself, is meaningless without the right intentions/deeds which leads to belief in its teachings and THAT proves you actually believe in that book. True intentions (from the heart ) are ultimately shown through your works.
i dunno, intentions and actions work hand in hand. I can intend something really good like making someone happy but i could cross the line and commit sins by that process. What is good what is bad? Depends how you want to look at it.
Precisely they go hand in hand. Sure good/bad are subjective.
So people reject translators they even reject studies. God can deal with them, it?s not really my concern. Actions matter most definitely i don?t deny that, is one who strives the same as the one who sits? Off course not (495).
Salam )
Why should people study it? Does the quran force people to study it? Even believe? (1099, 2256). Don't take 495 out of context, its addressed to mumineen. You can do better than that P
Surely you haven't studied all books that claim to be from the God? I must say some of the translations are some rather callous works, It completely distorts the message.
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Salam Jack
Yes I had this thought in the back of my mind concerning the jinn. But the verse states they were MUMIN in the jinn. Who goes around believe in jinn? Doesn't matter what you view them as be it physical beings, fantasies, hidden, etc. Who claims (again malayka say most of humanity) to believe in any of that?
You know, you are confusing me with the whole jin/mumin thing. What is the context, is it dunya or akhira? Read from 3437 and tell me what I am supposed to see. What are you trying to tell me... That there are jin mumineen? Ok i get that? People worshipped them? Yet your implication to me is how can people worship something they don?t know! So tell me what am i supposed to be seeing because i can?t see what you?re trying to tell me.
Who cares what most people do? Just because the belief of most people is illogical, doesn't mean ours should be. It doesn't prove anything. It just shows how sheepish humans are. I would rather concern myself with the quranic definition of iman. Have a look at 944-45 for another example of iman vs. no iman.
Off course our logic should be logical. I was just trying to show you a perception about blind faith/belief. Proving it has no logic it can have no logic and people can be like that but forget it. As you say lets concern ourselves with Quranic iman vs no iman
Protects zunoob, period! What?s that supposed to mean? znb to my understanding has links to saye?a??! I mean the principle at least it has links to sins
Thal-Nun-Ba = to track, make a tale, add apendix, follow closely, become spotted.
Commit offence, fault, sin, wrong, act of disobedience, transgression.Dude i know intentions matter. Well maybe you?re a secret serial killer in a war or something killing all the bad guys who knows that might be good! Anyway enough fairytale stories, if you intentionally went against Quran and continued to do so even though you believed in it, then it could make you one of two things that i am aware of; a fasiq or kafir. I wonder if they have links... i?ll look into that later if you wanna get into that discussion i?m just doing a few too many things atm. note to self, stop wondering!
944-945 isn?t this context jihad? But sure the ones who truly believe will stay firm and not back down.
So yeh.. actions matter i came across this verse, supports your theory of actions and iman
3437 (Asad) For, it is neither your riches nor your children that can bring you nearer to Us only he who attains to faith and does what is right and just ; and it is these whom multiple recompense awaits for all that they have done; and it is they who shall dwell secure in the mansions ?Why should people study it? For jannah? For the hereafter, for a better life in this dunya for awareness for goodness, for haqq.. why do you think? No, Quran doesn?t force people to study it but it?s available for people to study.
i know 495 is addressed to mumineen, you see i thought you guys were mumineen i?m trying to uplift your spirits into proactive action! I?m not a walking Quran, cut me some slack.
My focus is Quran i don?t want to study other/all books so let?s focus on belief on AlQuran as that is our concern
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PEACE!
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Salam Sarah,
Salam Jack
You know, you are confusing me with the whole jin/mumin thing. What is the context, is it dunya or akhira? Read from 3437 and tell me what I am supposed to see. What are you trying to tell me... That there are jin mumineen? Ok i get that? People worshipped them? Yet your implication to me is how can people worship something they don?t know! So tell me what am i supposed to be seeing because i can?t see what you?re trying to tell me.
Point is, you don't have to profess something for it to be your iman. Therefore, iman is not about what you say. 'Saying' you believe in the quran, on the surface, is utterly meaningless.
Protects zunoob, period! What?s that supposed to mean?
I think there's a joke in there somewhere...
i.e. the verse says all zunoob! It doesn't qualify it with shrik being the exception etc.944-945 isn?t this context jihad? But sure the ones who truly believe will stay firm and not back down.
Right, and if they back down they cease to believe in god/al akhira. Hence, it's their actions that made them NOT believe in god/al-akhira
So yeh.. actions matter i came across this verse, supports your theory of actions and iman
3437 (Asad) For, it is neither your riches nor your children that can bring you nearer to Us only he who attains to faith and does what is right and just ; and it is these whom multiple recompense awaits for all that they have done; and it is they who shall dwell secure in the mansions ?Thanks. See also 3420-21, those who follow shaytan don't believe in alakhirah. Pay careful attention to min-almumineen in 3420. Do you think QuranistsTM are exempt here?
Why should people study it? For jannah? For the hereafter, for a better life in this dunya for awareness for goodness, for haqq.. why do you think? No, Quran doesn?t force people to study it but it?s available for people to study.
Man, if you need a book for all that you are screwed to begin with. I don't know how Ibrahim figured anything out without a quran to study...676-81.
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My focus is Quran i don?t want to study other/all books so let?s focus on belief on AlQuran as that is our concern
That's consistent. You won't study other books, but others SHOULD study this book to receive 'jannah' Is al-haqq limited to the quran?
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3941 is for whom the MESSAGE has reached, not a book called al quran. "You are not a keeper over them." - the messenger is not a wakeel over us/them. Did he start handing out qurans, 'here you go! go study it!' The messenger's job is also to clarify in the language of his qawm (144). Note this doesn't preclude some distant, modern-english-translation.
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Salam jack
Yes belief isn?t just what you utter, people can lie and people can profess to things they don?t believe. Saying you believe in something then doing something contrary to that belief is a worry or a sign of weak faith or lack of knowledge/understanding. Lots of possibilities... but my concern isn?t professing or hiding belief. Though you know you just kind of proved my point, they don?t need to profess in the belief of ?jinn? to believe in jin
Right, and if they back down they cease to believe in god/al akhira. Hence, it's their actions that made them NOT believe in god/al-akhira
Continue to read the verses following. Their actions affirmed their beliefs not that their actions made them not believe in God/akhira.
Thanks. See also 3420-21, those who follow shaytan don't believe in alakhirah. Pay careful attention to min-almumineen in 3420. Do you think QuranistsTM are exempt here?
No one is exempt from anything. Quranist can claim to follow Quran and represent Quran however at the end of the day it doesn?t matter what you label yourself as you will be accountable for your own actions. None of us are free from error even the best of the best.
Well i?m not Ibrahim and in that case I guess i?m screwed. Why believe in Quran if you don?t need it, why follow it? Gotta better guide, do share?
So belief in God and going good is enough, that gets jannah apparently? right? By what logic? Who says that is the case? Was it the Quran?
Why should i put effort into doing good as how Quran states if it has no avail? If just believing in God and doing good is good enough? Your implication is studying Quran isn?t worth your time because you can get the same reward simply be believing in God, doing good and contemplating about the universe.
So maybe you don?t need a guide but if you have one you?re better off, are you not? If you believe in it and you don?t follow it, what does it make you? Why not follow Quran? Why uphold Quran if you don?t need it?
Is al-haqq limited to the quran?
You tell me.
Alhaqq is in a lot of things. The ultimate haqq is Allah (2262 ) and i believe this haqq is shared with us in AlQuran read 2176.
if you don?t believe that Quran is haqq then i don?t know why people bother following it.
If we read the Quran and study it and reject it or don?t follow it, what does it make us? How then is belief in Quran necessary or unnecessary after that? wouldn't albayana be evident to them? (read chapter 9. Or maybe i can argue if God knew we didn?t need the Quran God wouldn?t have sent it.
To me belief in Quran is important. Probably i?m biased because of my background though others would say i'm a rebel.. i don?t know where life would have taken me otherwise. back to Ibrahim, i guess he followed the Quranic message without it, can many do that? I have no idea.
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Peace Sarah,
So belief in God and doing good is enough, that gets jannah apparently? right? By what logic? Who says that is the case? Was it the Quran?
Belief in God, the last day/period (hereafter) and doing reform/setting things right in society (aml slh) is the minimum that you need to attain salvation.
262 ...any one who trusts with God and the Last day, and does reform/sets things right, they will have their reward with their Lord, with no fear over them, nor will they grieve.
If we read the Quran and study it and reject it or don?t follow it, what does it make us? How then is belief in Quran necessary or unnecessary after that?
That's where the mumin vs. muslim concept comes in. A muslim (one who is peaceful/surrenders) is anyone who fuliflls the requirements given in 262 for salvation. In one of my posts before I told you to take notice of the "and". The mumins (those who trust) are those who uphold The Reading/Quran. Traditional "Muslims" call themselves "Muslims", but what many/most fail to realize is that it is not a proper name and that anyone who believes in God, does good/reform and believes in the last day/hereafter is a muslim. Hence, no matter how you call yourself - if you fulfill the mentioned criteria, you are a muslim.
4133 Who is better in saying than one who invites to God, works reform, and says "I am one of 'al muslimeen' (the peaceful/those who have surrendered)."
4615 ..."My Lord, direct me to appreciate the blessings You have bestowed upon me and upon my parents, and to do/work righteousness/reform that pleases You. Let my progeny be righteous/reforming. I have repented to You; I am of 'al muslimeen'."
4616 It is from these that We accept the best of their deeds, and We shall overlook their bad deeds. (They are) among the dwellers of the garden. This is the promise of truth that they had been promised.
2853 If it is recited to them, they say, "We trust with it. It is the truth from our Lord. Indeed, before that we were."
Now, a mumin gets a better reward in the hereafter than a muslim, of course.
82 The mumins are those whom, when God is mentioned, their hearts tremble; when His signs are recited to them, it strengthens their acknowledgement; and they put their trust in their Lord.
83 They uphold the bond, and from Our provisions to them they spend (on others).
84 These are the true mumins; they will have ranks at their Lord, forgiveness, and a generous provision.
"This scripture is, no doubt in it, a beacon for the observant ("al-mutaqeen"
who have faith with the unseen,
uphold the bond,
and from our provisions to them, they give to charity.
And they have faith with what was revealed to you,
and in what was revealed before you,
and with regard to the Hereafter, they are absolutely certain.
These are guided by their Lord; these are the winners." (22-5)So why would you want to uphold/believe in The Quran and become a mumin? There is a greater reward and one is among the observant/righteous (al mutaqeen).
back to Ibrahim, i guess he followed the Quranic message without it, can many do that? I have no idea.
Ibrahim was a prophet, so he recieved a book from God. Of course he was also guided by God.
16120 Abraham was an examplary vanguard, devoted to God, a monotheist, and he was not of those who set up partners.
16121 Because he was thankful for His blessings, He (God) chose him and guided him to a straight path.
16123 Then We inspired to you (the messenger) "You shall follow the creed of Abraham, monotheism, and he was not of those who set up partners."
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Peace Sarah,
Quote from Sarah
So belief in God and doing good is enough, that gets jannah apparently? right? By what logic? Who says that is the case? Was it the Quran?Belief in God, the last day/period (hereafter) and doing reform/setting things right in society (aml slh) is the minimum that you need to attain salvation.
262 ...any one who trusts with God and the Last day, and does reform/sets things right, they will have their reward with their Lord, with no fear over them, nor will they grieve.
I was being sarcastic but sure, no fear or grief.
Ibrahim was a prophet, so he recieved a book from God. Of course he was also guided by God.
16120 Abraham was an examplary vanguard, devoted to God, a monotheist, and he was not of those who set up partners.
16121 Because he was thankful for His blessings, He (God) chose him and guided him to a straight path.
16123 Then We inspired to you (the messenger) "You shall follow the creed of Abraham, monotheism, and he was not of those who set up partners."
Good point.
Yo Jack, read that? he got a book! Guess i ain?t so screwed after all.
Salam
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Salam Sarah,
Salam jack
Though you know you just kind of proved my point, they don?t need to profess in the belief of ?jinn? to believe in jin
And you just made mine 'they don't need to profess belief in the quran to believe in the quran'. Took long enough P
Quranist can claim to follow Quran and represent Quran however at the end of the day it doesn?t matter what you label yourself as you will be accountable for your own actions. None of us are free from error even the best of the best.
Exactly, labels are meaningless, this includes what you say you believe. A label is something on the surface. The quran is much deeper than that.
Well i?m not Ibrahim and in that case I guess i?m screwed.
Nice try. He's an imam for an-nas. So, we should certainly be following in his footsteps (604). He looked at the heavens, and asked questions. That's how he figured out God. He used logic. He didn't read it in a book.
Yo Jack, read that? he got a book! Guess i ain?t so screwed after all.
Baseless assumption. Who said he didn't receive a book? All messengers receive books. He didn't get his views from his book. Unless of course he was using Idiot's Guide to Astronomy as his furqan.
Why believe in Quran if you don?t need it, why follow it? Gotta better guide, do share?
Faulty logic just because someone doesn't use al quran as a guide, doesn't mean a) there a better one b) they are using another guide. You can get to places without a map. You don't NEED a map to get to jannah. For some/many it helps, but others can reach the destination without a map. The quran is a guide, plain and simple. When you believe in the quran, you believe in its guidance, which is again its message. Check out 3434 "We reject the message/R-S-L you are sent with."
So belief in God and going good is enough, that gets jannah apparently? right? By what logic? Who says that is the case? Was it the Quran?
Why should i put effort into doing good as how Quran states if it has no avail? If just believing in God and doing good is good enough? Your implication is studying Quran isn?t worth your time because you can get the same reward simply be believing in God, doing good and contemplating about the universe.
I suggest reading progressive1993's post detailing mumineen vs. muslimeen.
So maybe you don?t need a guide but if you have one you?re better off, are you not? If you believe in it and you don?t follow it, what does it make you? Why not follow Quran? Why uphold Quran if you don?t need it?
First of all, you don't NEED to do anything. See above.
Alhaqq is in a lot of things. The ultimate haqq is Allah (2262 ) and i believe this haqq is shared with us in AlQuran read 2176.
if you don?t believe that Quran is haqq then i don?t know why people bother following it.
Al quran contains al haqq, no one is denying that. Al quran is not al haqq itself, that would make it God itself. God's attributes are not limited to anything. He's 'everywhere'.
If we read the Quran and study it and reject it or don?t follow it, what does it make us?
If you reject its truthfulness (whatever that is), that would make us kafir. But, you don't HAVE to follow it (again 1099). BTW, the God didn't forget to put the quran as a qualifier for jannah in 262.
Or maybe i can argue if God knew we didn?t need the Quran God wouldn?t have sent it.
I await such an argument.
To me belief in Quran is important. Probably i?m biased because of my background though others would say i'm a rebel.. i don?t know where life would have taken me otherwise. back to Ibrahim, i guess he followed the Quranic message without it, can many do that? I have no idea.
Don't forget he is an imam to mankind 2124.
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Jack
And you just made mine 'they don't need to profess belief in the quran to believe in the quran'. Took long enough P
Haha funny, i disagree. All the prophets preached the same concept message yet Quran is more specific than Believe in God and do good. So no, even people who dont profess their belief in Quran it doesnt necessarily mean they follow it just because they adhere to some concepts of it.
Nice try. He's an imam for an-nas. So, we should certainly be following in his footsteps (604). He looked at the heavens, and asked questions. That's how he figured out God. He used logic. He didn't read it in a book.
Im not disregarding Ibrahims footsteps.
Faulty logic just because someone doesn't use al quran as a guide, doesn't mean a) there a better one b) they are using another guide. You can get to places without a map. You don't NEED a map to get to jannah. For some/many it helps, but others can reach the destination without a map. The quran is a guide, plain and simple. When you believe in the quran, you believe in its guidance, which is again its message.
Bad example, when you want to reach a destination and you dont know where it is or where you are, you are bound to follow some sort of direction/guide i.e. road/street signs. Its a guide not the greatest compared to having a gps or a street directory. You follow the message through other signs. You need some guidance you dont have knowledge of the unseen.
I suggest reading progressive1993's post detailing mumineen vs. muslimeen.
Basically youre all saying someone who follows/adheres to Quran is a mumin and this is a better level.
If you reject its truthfulness (whatever that is), that would make us kafir. But, you don't HAVE to follow it (again 1099). BTW, the God didn't forget to put the quran as a qualifier for jannah in 262.
Youre not making any sense. You would be a kafir if you reject its truthfulness. What if you reject following it? Same thing? If you reject it, it makes you a kafir/fasiq hence the importance of following it. 1099 doesnt mention you dont have to follow it. If God willed he could have made us all mumineen and do we hate those who are not mumineen? im not hating anyone but it dont make sense to me to read study Quran and then say i choose not to follow it even though i believe in it. As ive said before inevitably my actions are mine and theyre to my benefit or disadvantage. my ultimate return is to my lord so all that really matters is my actions. 262 doesnt mention jannah.
I await such an argument.
How about we look at why the book was revealed?
4105 We have sent down to thee the Book in truth, that thou mightest judge between men, as guided by Allah. so be not (used) as an advocate by those who betray their trust;
4174 O mankind! verily there hath come to you a convincing proof from your Lord For We have sent unto you a light (that is) manifest.
692 And this is a Book which We have sent down, bringing blessings, and confirming (the revelations) which came before it that thou mayest warn the mother of cities and all around her. Those who believe in the Hereafter believe in this (Book), and they are constant in guarding their prayers.
6155 And this is a Book which We have revealed as a blessing so follow it and be righteous, that ye may receive mercy141 A. L. R. A Book which We have revealed unto thee, in order that thou mightest lead mankind out of the depths of darkness into light - by the leave of their Lord - to the Way of (Him) the Exalted in power, worthy of all praise!-
299 We have sent down to thee Manifest Signs (ayat); and none reject them but those who are perverse.There are other verses though overall conclusion its a guide for us to bring us closer to God. If people dont wanna be closer to God thats their choice/problem.
Salam
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Belief..
Some random thought?s i?d like to question/share
Many people are of the opinion lots of people can be ?muslim? (not that i disagree) how are you defining the term muslim?
Another thing, IF the purpose of Quran is a guidance ?ya ayuha allathina aminou? is a common phrase you will see, addressing those who believe so who is that? (the ones that aminou (look at chapter 49 for example) the ?muslims?? the believers of the Quran or what? The guidance seems to implicate commandments however I know people are of the belief Quran isn?t needed.
What?s the point in following it if it?s not needed? If you can be a Muslim without it? Does being muslim give you jannah?
Also the term kafir comes to mind. If a person comes across Quran reads/studies it yet rejects it does that not make them a kafir? Yet what if that person believed in God? Doesn?t that make them a muslim?
Possibly my preconceived notion of muslim is making me think this all sounds like an oxymoron though i always thought a muslim got jannah. However if they reject Quran then that makes them a kaffir? and kufr gets you jahanam as far as i am aware. (See verse 968, )
Who would choose hell? No one.
2109 ? aren?t ahl alkitab believers? Some are mushrikeen but there are believers so if a believer of God is simply a muslim then it's really not much??
Sorry if it sounds disjointed random thoughts going through my head
Comment as you like
Salam.
Many Muslims today read the Quran but don't know what it says and don't care. Would that make them believers in the Quran?
There are many signs of God that people believe in God. The issue here is religion often becomes an identity and tradition and peopl follow it for that reason. The Quran says guidance is from God and many people believed in God before any scriptures came or saw any miracles. And many have had the miracles shown to them and scritures handed to them but did not not.
Anyone who believes in God and believes in some sort of an after life is a believer. Thats my take on it.
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Interesting thought about haqq
Read from 6940- 52 or 6948 ? 52.
What do you think the implication of haqq is here? Do you think it alludes to Quran?
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? 6951 (Asad) for, verily, it is truth absolute!
salam,
Let's extend to the whole Sura 69, 'cos it begins with AlHaaqqah (H-q-q). At first i thought the "hu" (he/it) might refer to "AlHaaqqah" itself or the entire sura... but AlHaaqqah is feminine, unlike what the "hu" suggests... So we get back to the verse 40 Innahu laqawlu rasuwlin kariymin. Further in 6943 tanziylun min rabbi 'l`aalamiyna.
6948 And surely it is indeed a reminder to the pious.
6950 And surely it is indeed a regret to the disbelievers.Haqq 'lyaqiyn ~ words of noble messenger ~ sent down from Rabbi'l`aalamiyn ~ reminder to the muttaqiyn ~ regret to the kaafiriyn
so i think Haqq 'lyaqiyn ~ AQ does make sense
Related to prev. discussions, then some people (who are muttaqiyn) can have Haqq 'lyaqiyn before death (as the word "tad.kirah/reminder" suggests).
Following the word "Hasrah/regret", people can regret before death too (3156, 836), but some people may only fully realize their regret after "the Hour" (641). "Day of Regret" (1939) is also notable.So remind/remember now or regret later...
Thanks for the pointer, it's interesting
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Many Muslims today read the Quran but don't know what it says and don't care. Would that make them believers in the Quran?
You answered your own question ?don?t know what it says and don?t care?
There are many signs of God that people believe in God. The issue here is religion often becomes an identity and tradition and peopl follow it for that reason. The Quran says guidance is from God and many people believed in God before any scriptures came or saw any miracles. And many have had the miracles shown to them and scritures handed to them but did not not.
Yep some people believed in God without scripture, others with scriptures rejected. Today most people?s origins relates to some creed. Most people have an idea of God, deism seem to be a new common thing..
Anyone who believes in God and believes in some sort of an after life is a believer. Thats my take on it.
Interesting take, but i?m looking at it Quranically. For example a believer translates as? In your ideology if it?s Quranic? It seems to somewhat support the identity of ?muslim?
You might find these previous posts interesting
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9599284.msg233562#msg233562http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9599284.msg227419#msg227419
San,
Np I think it does refer to AQ. Though then it implicates those who reject the haqq will be regretful.. so those who reject AQ?
Salam
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Peace Wakas, all,
True. Difficult, but not impossible. Like most things, one can train oneself to be better at it. My favourite online course on critical thinking
http//web.archive.org/web/20040415023848/http/www.santarosa.edu/~dpeterso/permanenthtml/lessonFRAME.html
(click through each lesson)That's a very good online course on critical thinking, in my opinion. Thanks for sharing.
In addition to learning/studying critical thinking, I recommend learning about the Scientific method. Because I think that the scientific method can improve ones critical thinking ability. My favourite guide to the scientific method is this one
http//scientificmethod.com/index2.html
http//scientificmethod.com/b_index.html
Also, to improve ones critical thinking ability, I recommend learning about cognitive biases. See this link
http//m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=68705
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salaam
i haven't been on this forum board in quite sometime but the answer to your questions are in surah 2 al baqarah, simply read it slowly an analyze what the story is , ex of the people their are some who say we believe but they do not believe.
the rest of the surah goes on to give examples and identify those people.
i never read into it just over it because of it's length... but read into it without the goal of finishing it or any number of ayat even just one ayat like a book you don't want to end and visaulize it as you read to make it more vivid to you intellect. you'll see what i mean .
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Peace Wakas,
Good/nice analogy.
I think one of the biggest secrets to improving ones critical thinking skills is to discard/abandon things one has learned in the past, in order to get an empty mind. As the saying goes, "Only an empty bowl can be filled."
Also, I think one can improve ones critical thinking skills by increasing ones knowledge about different things. The Quran seems to suggest that reasoning-abilities are related to ones level of knowledge.
Quran 2943
Such are the examples We cite for the people, but none reason except the knowledgeable.
