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You think deleting 2 verses is bad enough...

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        This is not a coincidence. This may be a miracle. hypno

        No coincidence, you can not found such word in our Creator messages that is word of Satan and polluted souls around this forum making noise to stop our discussion. )

        625
        Some of them listen to you, but we place veils on their hearts to prevent them from understanding, and deafness in their ears. Thus, no matter what kind of proof they see, they cannot believe. Thus, when they come to argue with you, the disbelievers say, "These are tales from the past."

        Do your own checking and examination. all information and tools is available by finder here
        http//19.org/forum/index.php/mv/msg/7643/52179/0/#msg_52179
        That is new discovery and should be checked carefully. I have not had time to do so but ready to participate in a group examination.
        I am opening a new topic for such examination.
        response here too as this topic is very important which may remove dust from their eyes, which may

        • they can understand they are not deputy of God in earth unless Satan influencing them.
        • stop telling others how to do their life and which book to read or not read.
        • stop accusing others when they do not know them using fake id.
        • stop using name Of Islam ( submission ) and call themselves Muslim ( 319) when they kill each hter in large number daily and they rape and torture their own cultist follower when they are in opposition.
          They are in majority in number but in minority in straight path.
          They are using this screen for their own corrupted belief and blindly follow what their parent followed.
          But ending is on the way and appearing young as you (14 years old in 9 days) searching, studying, asking question, being honest is sign of rising new belief in this earth by your generation and future one. One Earth, One God and One Book, Not abusing book for daily politics, greed, wealth.power and other Satanic desires. But as Miracle for generation which is conceded by his HI Tech and science which now finds how wrong way is gone when has polluted all life privilege which our Creator granted us to be able to go trough the test.
          Prasie be to God Lord of universe that destined me to such path to see the truth and fact for existence of Creation and solid sign by reading and understanding messages and its embedded superhuman security interlocking system. reading and understand messages for my time not past and not future.
          Those messages are like medication for our body which older one is not effecting. Those messages are like medication for our soul, many of those messages never get old but some belongs to TIME and LOCATION. I follow my own understanding and certainly wise advises by those that their heart is free of any prejudice and hate could be a guide for learning more. I never try to be teacher as prophet was not allowed to be in such position. The teacher of messages and explaining it is Creator Only and sincere believers can be blessed and understand the messages which belongs to our time .
          The book is authored for all humanity for ll the time to the end of world, the wise will take advise from teacher that find best meaning for messages in thier time, pst is past and future belongs to future, we are in present , just let us be a believer based on solid proof for existence of Creator and challenging Sign as Miracle and let God help them to understand the truth.
          Peace
          Bahman
          19/10/2009 53703 PM
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          nsws1988
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          No coincidence, you can not found such word in our Creator messages that is word of Satan and polluted souls around this forum making noise to stop our discussion.

          625
          Some of them listen to you, but we place veils on their hearts to prevent them from understanding, and deafness in their ears. Thus, no matter what kind of proof they see, they cannot believe. Thus, when they come to argue with you, the disbelievers say, "These are tales from the past."

          Do your own checking and examination. all information and tools is available by finder here
          http//19.org/forum/index.php/mv/msg/7643/52179/0/#msg_52179
          That is new discovery and should be checked carefully. I have not had time to do so but ready to participate in a group examination.
          I am opening a new topic for such examination.
          response here too as this topic is very important which may remove dust from their eyes, which may

          • they can understand they are not deputy of God in earth unless Satan influencing them.
          • stop telling others how to do their life and which book to read or not read.
          • stop accusing others when they do not know them using fake id.
          • stop using name Of Islam ( submission ) and call themselves Muslim ( 319) when they kill each hter in large number daily and they rape and torture their own cultist follower when they are in opposition.
            They are in majority in number but in minority in straight path.
            They are using this screen for their own corrupted belief and blindly follow what their parent followed.
            But ending is on the way and appearing young as you (14 years old in 9 days) searching, studying, asking question, being honest is sign of rising new belief in this earth by your generation and future one. One Earth, One God and One Book, Not abusing book for daily politics, greed, wealth.power and other Satanic desires. But as Miracle for generation which is conceded by his HI Tech and science which now finds how wrong way is gone when has polluted all life privilege which our Creator granted us to be able to go trough the test.
            Prasie be to God Lord of universe that destined me to such path to see the truth and fact for existence of Creation and solid sign by reading and understanding messages and its embedded superhuman security interlocking system. reading and understand messages for my time not past and not future.
            Those messages are like medication for our body which older one is not effecting. Those messages are like medication for our soul, many of those messages never get old but some belongs to TIME and LOCATION. I follow my own understanding and certainly wise advises by those that their heart is free of any prejudice and hate could be a guide for learning more. I never try to be teacher as prophet was not allowed to be in such position. The teacher of messages and explaining it is Creator Only and sincere believers can be blessed and understand the messages which belongs to our time .
            The book is authored for all humanity for ll the time to the end of world, the wise will take advise from teacher that find best meaning for messages in thier time, pst is past and future belongs to future, we are in present , just let us be a believer based on solid proof for existence of Creator and challenging Sign as Miracle and let God help them to understand the truth.
            Peace
            Bahman
            19/10/2009 53703 PM

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            No coincidence, you can not found such word in our Creator messages that is word of Satan and polluted souls around this forum making noise to stop our discussion.

            polluted souls? ??? because they don't agree with your understanding? ???

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              polluted souls? ??? because they don't agree with your understanding? ???

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                stop posting off-topic posts please!

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                  stop posting off-topic posts please!

                  then stop going off-topic

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                    then stop going off-topic

                    ok

                    P.s. Just the last one

                    nsws1988
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                      http//www.inet.ba/~hardy/code_19.htm

                      Some interesting information.

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                        Hey we are discussing code 19. Is that offtopic? )

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                          Bahman
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                          Hey we are discussing code 19. Is that offtopic? )

                          and proofing how Quran is fully protected which directly relates to topic removing so many verses. They can not remove their love to their parent belief and yet not ready to examine and witness the truth. They follow their clergies and their leader instead of God and cover up their idolization by calling themselves Muslim hence they are not. When they become speechless with showing clear proof they run away and try to interrupt the discussions like their teachers.
                          Accepting Miracle could be end to many things of their belonging from dress code to job and position , to deleting all their conjuncture, to loosing idol worshiper friends and family and many other thing. Noy many of them have gut to do so and they do only lip service and do not believe that God is supporting any believer.
                          They have no choice unless screaming Off Topic but they can not mislead truth seekers as they are.
                          Peace )
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                            and proofing how Quran is fully protected which directly relates to topic removing so many verses. They can not remove their love to their parent belief and yet not ready to examine and witness the truth. They follow their clergies and their leader instead of God and cover up their idolization by calling themselves Muslim hence they are not. When they become speechless with showing clear proof they run away and try to interrupt the discussions like their teachers.
                            Accepting Miracle could be end to many things of their belonging from dress code to job and position , to deleting all their conjuncture, to loosing idol worshiper friends and family and many other thing. Noy many of them have gut to do so and they do only lip service and do not believe that God is supporting any believer.
                            They have no choice unless screaming Off Topic but they can not mislead truth seekers as they are.
                            Peace )
                            )

                            bravo bravo bravo

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                              and proofing how Quran is fully protected which directly relates to topic removing so many verses. They can not remove their love to their parent belief and yet not ready to examine and witness the truth. They follow their clergies and their leader instead of God and cover up their idolization by calling themselves Muslim hence they are not. When they become speechless with showing clear proof they run away and try to interrupt the discussions like their teachers.
                              Accepting Miracle could be end to many things of their belonging from dress code to job and position , to deleting all their conjuncture, to loosing idol worshiper friends and family and many other thing. Noy many of them have gut to do so and they do only lip service and do not believe that God is supporting any believer.
                              They have no choice unless screaming Off Topic but they can not mislead truth seekers as they are.
                              Peace &nbsp
                              )

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                              If you wish to discuss code 19 there is a whole section to discuss it in or you can message Munzir directly. You have no right to accuse anyone of idolisation. I have already noticed you doing it to 2 other members of this forum and find it disrespectful.

                              No back to the main topic.

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                                Hey we are discussing code 19. Is that offtopic?

                                yes it is. there is a whole section for code 19.

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                                  No back to the main topic.

                                  ok

                                  You think deleting 2 verses is bad enough...

                                  there is a reason they remove 2 verses code 19. and that, Madame, you don't want to discuss?

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                                    ok

                                    there is a reason they remove 2 verses code 19. and that, Madame, you don't want to discuss?

                                    One can give links to the many other discussions related to code 19

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                                      One can give links to the many other discussions related to code 19

                                      Moreover ,Code 19 cannot over ride the Quran. The Quran is Supreme.
                                      Regards

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                                        If you wish to discuss code 19 there is a whole section to discuss it in or you can message Munzir directly. You have no right to accuse anyone of idolisation. I have already noticed you doing it to 2 other members of this forum and find it disrespectful.

                                        No back to the main topic.

                                        Peace dear sister )
                                        There is no wonder talking like this and dictating your own idea to tohers where to go what to do. I do not blame you as you have bee raised like this to be instructed all time and do what their parents did. No right to ask so much question and limiting to their own understanding. I have been Shai land and i can see clearly how such dictaorial system which is rooted in family realation now are in power by abusing name of God and Quran force their own people to obey their own rules and laws and go so far that to rape female and male in any by such ugly , barbarian fabricated rules and law.
                                        I do not blame you sister for such criticism when ilooked at you early post e right now to see if i am wrong but i was right you have been raised in Sunni family and you are proud to be called Mohammedans like Cristian for Christ.

                                        These forum has moderators and they decide to if my posts is off topic not members. Ofcourse you can complain and if your claim is right then they will move it to Off Topic.
                                        I am not disrespecting any body but telling the truth, Those that reject Miracle such clear and crystal that 14 years old coul understood in few minutes and try to confuse new truth seekers like you to keep 2 fabricated verse by time power greeds to keep themselves as the decedent of Raheem human they are IDOL WORSHIPERS and this a fact that now wee se how whole book digitally reject 2 verses.
                                        Here is the issue is 2 verses and removing more verses by confused ones. And i will be feel guilty and ashamed in day of judgement when i see the truth do not inform others.
                                        I have seen many like you in the middle of struggling transforming from parent belief to reality and truth and is not easy. New belief is like painting, if you want change the paint you have to paint it clear white and start back. I mean you have to forget all learning from parents and teachers and just belive in creation and God and now seek for a divine and protested sign or message for proof for existence of God and then His words too.
                                        The only way for these Hi Tech generation is numbers from 1 t0 9 and if Ali could understand it in few minutes why you can not. ?
                                        Have patience and read the post and information carefully and understand it
                                        Spending little time to witness Greatness of our Creator will save all your life. Do it right now and tell us what you see wrong with proof.
                                        Peace.
                                        Bahman Goharzad

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                                          nsws1988
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                                          You could have just written that as a PM but anyway...

                                          First of all, you don't know me (Have we ever spoken before? I don't think so!) You accused me, as well as 2 other people (at least) on this forum when you don't even know us. You have no right to judge! My family aren't even completely strict. They have their views and I have mine. If I wanted to follow them then I won't be here on this site. I'd be sitting in front of the TV listening to a scholar instead of doing my own research. They actually make me sick so why would I follow them? 'you are proud to be called Mohammedans' Where is your proof?? I've never even said the word Mohammedans in my entire life!

                                          Secondly, I'm not sure if you have noticed, but I started a thread a few months ago asking for information on code 19 as I am an open minded person (and, again, do NOT follow my parents blindly). I discussed the topic privately with another member and read through the articles he kindly gave me. I didn't find it very straight forward and a little mind boggling for me. Whether code 19 is real or not doesn't bother me. I am only glad that it lead so many people to believing in God alone and following the Quran.

                                          I started this topic to discuss it, nothing else. That is why I told Munzir to go to the code 19 section. It's not like I forced him to do something he didn't want to do! You could have easily provided Munzir with some links or contacted him personally, yet you ignored my request to keep to the topic.

                                          And what would be the point of me starting a topic then have it removed to the 'off-topic' section.

                                          I wouldn't normally bother responding to false accusations but what you wrote is very offensive considering you don't even know me and considering you made the same accusations to others for so reason. If you want to teach people about code 19 then you might want to speak to them kindly, instead of rudely.

                                          PS Don't worry about me, I'm not struggling. I made the transition in a split second

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