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Women's Singing and Qur'an Recitation in Public

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    CavemanDoctor
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    Why would some sects of Islam find any justification for banning something as beautiful and enjoyable as singing?

    Because groups of people from all walks of life do irrational things.

    Better question is why does this surprise you?

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      Wootah
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      Because groups of people from all walks of life do irrational things.

      Better question is why does this surprise you?

      Well when one tries to learn about something and it changes all the time it is quite difficult to know what is true and false.

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        BornAgain
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        Why would some sects of Islam find any justification for banning something as beautiful and enjoyable as singing?

        Well when one tries to learn about something and it changes all the time it is quite difficult to know what is true and false.

        Irrational banning has done by many religious institutions, and it is not exclusive to some sects of Islam. I can mention some, but there will be no point. I'd rather focus on the good and not the bad, from other religions. Don't start reading with any pre-conceived views, or desire to criticise/find any flaws. Use open-minded and logical approach, then you're bound to discover the truth.

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          san
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          Irrational banning has done by many religious institutions, and it is not exclusive to some sects of Islam. I can mention some, but there will be no point. I'd rather focus on the good and not the bad, from other religions. Don't start reading with any pre-conceived views, or desire to criticise/find any flaws. Use open-minded and logical approach, then you're bound to discover the truth.

          Snap! bravo

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            Rana
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            Peace all!

            My classmates told me that a woman cannot sing in public because 'in the Quran it says that in the hereafter she will have a hook going through her mouth'. One of them is having a shisha party with a bellydancer shaking her ass.

            Hahaha!! So logical. o )

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              Rana
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              There are men who would get turned on by hearing a female read the Quran? S

              o Oh my. That's a scary thought. Still, clearly there is a belief getting about that men will be turned on by anything, hence everything () must be banned/covered up and that further to that, once this chain of events gets started, that the poor things have no self control. Know what I think about that? yeah

              Men have a lot more control than some scholars (and hadith writers) seem to think. In the west women wear quite revealing clothing, work with men, drink and socialise with men and if the above were true it would be untenable. Yet somehow women here manage not to get raped everyday. Strange that...

              I was told/advised to stop singing one day. I was in a small room with no windows to the outside (no, it wasn't prison, but thanks for asking ) so who could have heard aside from the person who told me I shouldn't sing...a mahram. For flips sake!!! Let a girl enjoy doing the dishes!!!

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                Wootah
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                Oh my. That's a scary thought. Still, clearly there is a belief getting about that men will be turned on by anything, hence everything () must be banned/covered up and that further to that, once this chain of events gets started, that the poor things have no self control. Know what I think about that? yeah

                Men have a lot more control than some scholars (and hadith writers) seem to think. In the west women wear quite revealing clothing, work with men, drink and socialise with men and if the above were true it would be untenable. Yet somehow women here manage not to get raped everyday. Strange that...

                I was told/advised to stop singing one day. I was in a small room with no windows to the outside (no, it wasn't prison, but thanks for asking ) ) so who could have heard aside from the person who told me I shouldn't sing...a mahram. For flips sake!!! Let a girl enjoy doing the dishes!!!

                Ahh but you didn't know whether a man might not be nearby who would have been turned into a lustful raving rapist by your voice.
                However ... I am sure he was happy you were doing the dishes )

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                  san
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                  "would have been turned into a lustful raving rapist by your voice"

                  Wootah, got some point to tell? Explain.

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                    Wootah
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                    "would have been turned into a lustful raving rapist by your voice"

                    Wootah, got some point to tell? Explain.

                    Just sharing in the joke, of how silly it is to think a woman can turn a man into a crazy sex wild thing.

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                      san
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                      Just sharing in the joke, of how silly it is to think a woman can turn a man into a crazy sex wild thing.

                      That's all? well, Wootah, i'm disap-point-ed.

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                        Wootah
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                        That's all? well, Wootah, i'm disap-point-ed.

                        Not all my posts can please.

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                          san
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                          oh.

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                            Sirius
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                            Why would some sects of Islam find any justification for banning something as beautiful and enjoyable as singing?

                            Exactly!

                            You can't beat an inspiring bit of music
                            http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUlw4NT08Ds&feature=related

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                              san
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                              dope lyrics. bookmarked. Thanx for sharing, Sirius. Best point made since reply #82.

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                                Sirius
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                                dope lyrics. bookmarked. Thanx for sharing, Sirius. Best point made since reply #82.

                                Agreed. Truly profound lyrical content.

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                                  I was told/advised to stop singing one day. I was in a small room with no windows to the outside (no, it wasn't prison, but thanks for asking ) ) so who could have heard aside from the person who told me I shouldn't sing...a mahram. For flips sake!!! Let a girl enjoy doing the dishes!!!

                                  you sure that was because you were a woman? Maybe it is the singing in itself >D

                                  When I sing birds drop out the sky and small children start to cry....

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                                    Mushu
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                                    I remember taking this type of fatwa very seriously. I gave up music for just over a year, got rid of all my music and sold my mp3 player. The thing is, I sort of experienced the benefits of giving up music. It cleared my mind of all the crap that I was feeding it. No longer was Ludacris telling me he had hoes in different area codes, or Biggie revealing his dreams of 'f****** an R'n'B b****'. Basically, I was polluting my mind and the hiatus did me a world of good. I noticed a change in my own character, and found myself thinking and reflecting more. Before, if I had a quiet moment to myself I'd hum a song or rap a lyric to myself. Once I quit I freed up a lot of brain energy.

                                    Since I woke up to the extremity of such a fatwa, I've built up my music collection again but this time being far more selective. Inspiring lyrics and genuine expression of reality or dreams is what I look for now.

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                                      Rana
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                                      Exactly!

                                      You can't beat an inspiring bit of music
                                      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUlw4NT08Ds&feature=related

                                      yay In seconds of me putting it on my daughter gave me a "Muuuum?" - the kind that really means "Mum, what weird thing are you doing now?" Half way through she was asking for it to stop! lol. How does that man remain so flipping happy? Priceless.

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                                        Rana
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                                        you sure that was because you were a woman? Maybe it is the singing in itself >D

                                        When I sing birds drop out the sky and small children start to cry....

                                        Haha! Yes, it's always possible he was just thinking of others welfare by not letting them hear this voice. I admit, I could be a better singer.

                                        @ Wootah - yes, no surprises that dishes were ok to do P

                                        @ Mushu your post made me laugh mostly because it is true. Many people listen to music that has bad content. I was thinking about that yesterday. I guess it's up to each person where they are going to draw the line. I'm not that strict but I totally relate to the examples you gave. Hamdulillah you've been able to have a fresh start with your music. That's a positive thing.

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                                          san
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                                          yay In seconds of me putting it on my daughter gave me a "Muuuum?" - the kind that really means "Mum, what weird thing are you doing now?" Half way through she was asking for it to stop! lol. How does that man remain so flipping happy? Priceless.

                                          ahahah, gets me thinking of Nanny 911 stuff everytime kids are acting up, sit them down on a chair and have them watch this vid. >D

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