new article - Quranic terms defined
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They are not my quotes.
I thought you were also endorsing their translation
Quote from Mazhar on September 09, 2010, 083054 PM
But this is addressed to those who did that act in the past. So you mean to say, "O Those who provided security".In the past from now. These verses are relating to what was happening THEN, which at the time was the present.
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I thought you were also endorsing their translation
you were the one that said it was 'those who provided security' as in the past, I was the one who said it was past from now and at the time it would have been the present. You were actually endorsing this translation more than I was as, in fact I don't see where I did at all and now you are disagreeing with yourself and saying its 'intransitive'
No wonder I'm confused ???
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you were the one that said it was 'those who provided security' as in the past, I was the one who said it was past from now and at the time it would have been the present. You were actually endorsing this translation more than I was as, in fact I don't see where I did at all and now you are disagreeing with yourself and saying its 'intransitive'
No wonder I'm confused ???
Let us leave it for a while.
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and drag it up in another 45 days when I will be even more confused ;D
45 days cycle is too long and confusion would be natural. I will not like it. Actually herbman had translated like that "therefore Ya ayuha alathee amanu would mean "O Those who provide security".
Anyway you know the correct meanings of "amanu". Thanks.
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peace all,
I had a potentially amazing discovery last night, so I would like to slightly modify what I said in the original post. I still have to verify it in detail, however, since that will take me a while, I thought I'd post it here for consideration
maSJD = mode/manner/place of SJD, implementation of SJD
In Quran's context it means any command/decree in it that is actioned/implemented/done, put in place, put into practice etc.al maSJD al haram = the sanctified/restricted implemented/actioned SJD
Refers to a system/entity implementing special/particular act(s) of SJD, e.g. of which could be contained in a treaty , or present in a location, or be one's direction/focus .Since maSJD simply means an 'actioned/implemented acknowledgement/compliance', then 'al masjid al haram' simply means 'the implemented/actioned acknowledgements/compliances (of) the haram/sanctuary'. As I said previously, the concept of a "haram" was very common in Arabia, and very likely pre-dated Muhammad. Thus, refers to mandated protocol/actions in a sanctuary/place that people abide by, and in such a place, the believers were gradually able to establish it as God's deen/obligation, bringing about unification, peace and prosperity amongst various peoples etc.
If you're confused, not to worry, I just wanted to put it out there. GW, I will publish my findings soon.
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Since maSJD simply means an 'actioned/implemented acknowledgement/compliance', then 'al masjid al haram' simply means 'the implemented/actioned acknowledgements/compliances (of) the haram/sanctuary'.
Peace Wakas,
So you are saying that means an action/act completed and realized.
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implemented/actioned
It means and refers to an action that has since been completed or realized since "implemented" is a transitive verb. Or you mean something else wich I am not getting.
And if "/implemented acknowledgement" is a phrase, then acknowledgement is in itself an act of accepting the truth or existence of something.
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when something is actioned it is in effect, e.g. action a law. To say this means completed sounds awkward, and not really true. Perhaps certain occurrences in context may tell us, but at this moment in time, I do not refer to it as completed.
So you are saying that means executing or following a law-and/or enforcing a law.
