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A personal view regarding salat

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    Jack
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    Thank you for the links! After reading many of the articles on this site, as well as browsing through the forums, one thing has been bothering me.

    Allah says his Quran is complete and he has made it easy to believe. Also that he does not wish for his way to be difficult, yet no one seems to agree or are able to really explain what is expected from believers. Some feel that they pray twice, and only read the Quran, while others believe it is 3 times a day and that physical prostration is important.

    I wonder how much confusion is caused because we have preconceived notions caused by generations of assumptions of what islamic prayer and daily obligations should be as taught by Sunnis.

    If the Quran is so easy to understand, why isn't it easy to understand? Are we over-complicating it?

    Preconceptions do/can play a large role, IMO.

    You have to walk before you start running
    Check out this article on the difference between muslims & mumins http//free-minds.org/node/10

    Yes, we do over-complicate things sometimes, but know that you don't have to perform salat etc. It's not a requirement per se. All that is 'required' is what's stated in chapter 103. Short, simple and sweet. I find it quiet powerful.

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      Mazhar
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      Quote from captainneckbeard on November 18, 2010, 073743 AM
      In Surah 54. Al-Qamar (The Moon) (Yusuf Ali Translation)
      It quotes the same passage 4 times
      17. And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember then is there any that will receive admonition?
      22. But We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember then is there any that will receive admonition?
      32. And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember then is there any that will receive admonition?
      40. And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember then is there any that will receive admonition?
      The context of these passages seem to be an admonition towards the Quraish and 4 examples were given of different peoples who were given warnings by God and rejected. So it seems it should still apply today, the Quran *Must be easy to understand AND remember if we are to understand the warnings and heed Gods commands.
      I know no arabic but Al-Fatiha so I'm not in a place to perform exegesis on these 4 ayats, so could someone possibly help and explain? Can the phrase understand and remember be translated differently?

      The word "understand" doesn't occur in those passages. The exact word used is "rememberance".

      Peace,

      Ayman

      Peace Ayman,

      And how do you remember? Do you know the process involved in remembering? Can you remember anything without first understanding/perceiving or conceiving it?

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        Peace Mazhar,

        And how do you remember? Do you know the process involved in remembering? Can you remember anything without first understanding/perceiving or conceiving it?

        One can remember the god without understanding the god. We can understand a little bit by remembering and keeping in mind the attributes he told us about himself. You can remember that we will all eventually die but you don't understand death. Remembering helps us understand. But understanding is a deeper level than just remembering. If you remember correctly than you will gradually reach a better understanding. Reminders are hints that help us understand better. They are not understanding. To understand a little bit better you need to connect a lot of reminders together.

        Peace,

        Ayman

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          Peace Mazhar,

          One can remember the god without understanding the god. We can understand a little bit by remembering and keeping in mind the attributes he told us about himself. You can remember that we will all eventually die but you don't understand death. Remembering helps us understand. But understanding is a deeper level than just remembering. If you remember correctly than you will gradually reach a better understanding. Reminders are hints that help us understand better. They are not understanding. To understand a little bit better you need to connect a lot of reminders together.

          Peace,

          Ayman

          Peace Ayman,

          "Zikr" its basic/primary perception-meaning is to save. Nothing can be saved in long term memory until you have reached some level of perception/understanding whereafter one will be able to recall/retrieve it from the memory which is termed as rememberance.

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