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Why the importance of believing in One God?

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    Mr_Q
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    Really? Then why does nobody else disagree with Allathee Laa Illah ( might have made a small mistake here ) meaning Who is not god?

    And where is that stated in the Quran?

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      Ghazelle
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      Shirk is a mockery. Just look at some of the pagan religions and their mythology and theology. Their stories about the gods and creation. Just read some of the creation stories.

      If youre referring to creation stories from other deities - some of those creation stories are, how can I put it politely, very explicit!

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        Kaiokenred
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        And where is that stated in the Quran?

        Uh? Like a lot of times? Have you even read an article to full on servantofthelight?

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          Jafar
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          Really? Then why does nobody else disagree with Allathee Laa Illah ( might have made a small mistake here ) meaning Who is not god?

          I think what you're saying here is The thing which called "Allah" in the Quran is not a DEITY..

          If that's the case, the Taoist / Buddhist and many eastern cultures have similar view..
          They view "The Supreme Force of all universe" as "a power", "an energy", "a force"..
          In which Lao Tse said, 'it has no name, as name itself is created yet for the sake of discussion let's name It TAO".

          Salam / Peace

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            Zulf
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            It's tricky trying to understand that which people commonly call Allah, God, Tao............ . .. .
            We cannot fully grasp it. Perhaps all we can do is to realize what it is not... and also its qualities.

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              Kaiokenred
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              I think what you're saying here is The thing which called "Allah" in the Quran is not a DEITY..

              If that's the case, the Taoist / Buddhist and many eastern cultures have similar view..
              They view "The Supreme Force of all universe" as "a power", "an energy", "a force"..
              In which Lao Tse said, 'it has no name, as name itself is created yet for the sake of discussion let's name It TAO".

              Salam / Peace

              Yeah a correct translation would also be " who is not a deity for worship and adoration "

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                Mr_Q
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                ad?o?ra?tion
                noun
                1.
                the act of paying honor, as to a divine being; worship.
                2.
                reverent homage.
                3.
                fervent and devoted love.

                So you say the Quran teaches to NOT pay honor to God, to NOT worship Him in any way shape or form, to NOT be reverent of God, and to NOT love God? o

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                  Kaiokenred
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                  ad?o?ra?tion
                  noun
                  1.
                  the act of paying honor, as to a divine being; worship.
                  2.
                  reverent homage.
                  3.
                  fervent and devoted love.

                  So you say the Quran teaches to NOT pay honor to God, to NOT worship Him in any way shape or form, to NOT be reverent of God, and to NOT love God? o

                  Yep, because the Quran makes it clear god does not exist.

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                    farida
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                    Salaam
                    In this day and age many profess atheism, yet still feel compelled to yield to the powers that be, much the same as believers submit to God. It is for our own benefit that we do not consider anyone as God?s equal, and it?s also important to first understand God ?s powers, and the feeling of security which comes with the realisation that none but God has power over you; that none can harm us, except by the will of Allah.
                    Many, with power and authority strive to take over as gods, they behave as if they possessed the capacity to change man?s destiny, and people are often ?shocked and awed?, by their demonstration of might, thus end up in submission to them. For our own sense of worth it is vital to always remember that, no matter how sofisticated the survallaince techniques used by the governments or their agents, may be and no matter how hard they try to make you subservient, none, except Allah, can determine your fate.
                    3929 Allah puts forth a Parable a man belonging to many partners at variance with each other, and a man belonging entirely to one master are those two equal in comparison? Praise be to Allah. but most of them have no knowledge.
                    Peace

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                      Kaiokenred
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                      Salaam
                      In this day and age many profess atheism, yet still feel compelled to yield to the powers that be, much the same as believers submit to God. It is for our own benefit that we do not consider anyone as God?s equal, and it?s also important to first understand God ?s powers, and the feeling of security which comes with the realisation that none but God has power over you; that none can harm us, except by the will of Allah.
                      Many, with power and authority strive to take over as gods, they behave as if they possessed the capacity to change man?s destiny, and people are often ?shocked and awed?, by their demonstration of might, thus end up in submission to them. For our own sense of worth it is vital to always remember that, no matter how sofisticated the survallaince techniques used by the governments or their agents, may be and no matter how hard they try to make you subservient, none, except Allah, can determine your fate.
                      3929 Allah puts forth a Parable a man belonging to many partners at variance with each other, and a man belonging entirely to one master are those two equal in comparison? Praise be to Allah. but most of them have no knowledge.
                      Peace

                      But Allah is not a god.

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                        farida
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                        But Allah is not a god.

                        You are right as Allah is the God, the master, the creator and lot more, beyond our comprehension.
                        Salaam

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                          Zulf
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                          This is all a piccadilly play on the external level of words and semantics... while we should focus on the deeper level of meaning, ideas and concepts.
                          Let's face it that many of us won't agree on the meanings of the words 'worship', 'pray' and 'God'.
                          It is becoming a brickwall ... some on one side, some on the other...

                          Cheers and peace laugh

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                            farida
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                            This is all a piccadilly play on the external level of words and semantics... while we should focus on the deeper level of meaning, ideas and concepts.
                            Let's face it that many of us won't agree on the meanings of the words 'worship', 'pray' and 'God'.
                            It is becoming a brickwall ... some on one side, some on the other...

                            Cheers and peace laugh

                            In my earlier post I discussed what you consider; the deeper level of meaning, ideas and concepts. so pls read that post rather then the one above which I wrote in response to a young member of this fourm.
                            Salaam

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                              Kaiokenred
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                              angel

                              You are right as Allah is the God, the master, the creator and lot more, beyond our comprehension.
                              Salaam

                              No Allah is not a god at all. Not "the God". NOT GOD.

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                                Zulf
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                                Farida,

                                I know.
                                And just to clarify; even though I made my post directly after yours, I was actually commenting on the whole thread (and similar debates on other threads), and not on any individual or specific post or poster.

                                sun

                                Peace

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                                  farida
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                                  angelNo Allah is not a god at all. Not "the God". NOT GOD.

                                  Salaam dear Kaiokenred
                                  It will really benefit you and everyone if you read all your posts and do bit of soul searching for a change as you are stuck on your concept of Allah and expect eveyone to agree with you and often derail threads which could lead to better understanding of the subject.
                                  Salaam

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                                    Kaiokenred
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                                    Salaam dear Kaiokenred
                                    It will really benefit you and everyone if you read all your posts and do bit of soul searching for a change as you are stuck on your concept of Allah and expect eveyone to agree with you and often derail threads which could lead to better understanding of the subject.
                                    Salaam

                                    I know what I wrote, there's no need to read it again. You replied to me " God this, god that "
                                    I couldn't care less about your non existent god. I said it many times and I'll repeat it again, Allah ( Not God ) = single consciousness that manifests all creation instant by instant from the inside out

                                    And I've already answered the question, maybe YOU should read all my posts here.

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                                      Mr_Q
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                                      This is all a piccadilly play on the external level of words and semantics... while we should focus on the deeper level of meaning, ideas and concepts.
                                      Let's face it that many of us won't agree on the meanings of the words 'worship', 'pray' and 'God'.
                                      It is becoming a brickwall ... some on one side, some on the other...

                                      Cheers and peace laugh

                                      The issue with K and the SOL theologies are not simply semantics. They are antithetical to what the Quran actually teaches and says. The adherants to those theologies are teaching NOT to serve God, NOT to worship, NOT to honor Him, NOT to pray to Him, NOT to give thanks or ask for help from Him and that doing these things angers God and He will punish you for it and that this backward ideology, that cannot be found in Quran is somehow the true Islam.

                                      I will show more in my other thread regarding SOL theologies, but as if the question is about the semantic nature of who or what we call God it is not.

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                                        Kaiokenred
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                                        The issue with K and the SOL theologies are not simply semantics. They are antithetical to what the Quran actually teaches and says. The adherants to those theologies are teaching NOT to serve God, NOT to worship, NOT to honor Him, NOT to pray to Him, NOT to give thanks or ask for help from Him and that doing these things angers God and He will punish you for it and that this backward ideology, that cannot be found in Quran is somehow the true Islam.

                                        I will show more in my other thread regarding SOL theologies, but as if the question is about the semantic nature of who or what we call God it is not.

                                        There's no such thing as SOL theologies, and you're an immature jealous retard, a fool who has no capability to reason, also a blatant liar.

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                                          Mr_Q
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                                          There's no such thing as SOL theologies, and you're an immature jealous retard, a fool who has no capability to reason, also a blatant liar.

                                          LoL! Like I said before, don't shoot the messenger. I am simply posting and going to post SOL's theologies and (mis)translations, from their site so if you don't like what is said, then take it up with them or maybe you should have actually studied them for yourself before zealously defending and promoting things not in the Quran.

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