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Inheritance according to Qur?an

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    Mazhar
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    #801

    no bequests if the Almighty strikes you dead for lying!
    you keep spamming the thread embarrassing yourself!

    you can't answer simple cases like parent daughter/s!
    you do not know difference between two and three!

    use hadith you'll get wife 1/8 (if walad) correct
    the rest is wrong like you to steal from orphans! >D

    here is Jabir bin ‘Abdullah again, he never died? hmm

    https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2097

    https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2096

    https//sunnah.com/tirmidhi2092
    Jabir bin 'Abdullah said
    "The wife of Sa'd bin Ar-Rabi came with her two daughters from Sa'd to he Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)and said; O Messenger of Allah(S.A.W)! these two are daughters of Sa'd bin Ar-Rabi who fought along with you on the day of Uhud and was martyred. Their uncle took their wealth, without leaving any wealth for them, and they will not be married unless they have wealth.' He said 'Allah will decide on that matter.' The ayah about inheritance was revealed, so the Messenger of Allah(S.A.W) sent (word) to their Uncle saying Give the two daughters of Sa'd two thirds, and give their mother one eighth, and whatever remains, then it is for you.'

    If you wish success and salvation Avoid relying on secondary sources.

    In all cases the allocation prescribed by Allah the Exalted shall prevail. The rest is for the deceased to bequeath or family to decide in case of sudden death.
    If the progeny is only daughter, half of heritage ---remains half
    If the progeny is two daughters or more 2/3 -----remains 1/3

    ............
    Fortunes vary depending upon the case
    Related Root ت ر ك signifies giving up, desertion, and abandonment of a thing. An agent leaves behind estate which becomes another's property. The fortunes accruing to various members of the bereaved family could fluctuate depending upon the number of offspring and blood relatives existing at the time of death of a person leaving heritage.

    لِّلـرِّجَالِ نَصيِبٚ مِّمَّا تَرَكَ ٱلْوَٟلِدَانِ وَٱلۡأَقْرَبُونَ

    Subject to ground realities a share is the apportioned right for the Men out of the inheritance left by the Parents (Mother and Father) and the relatively Nearer Relatives.

    زمینی حقائق اور حالات کے مطابق اس ترکے میں جو ان کے والدین اور رشتے میں نسبتاًزیادہ قرابت داروں نے اپنے پیچھے چھوڑا ہے اس میں مردوں کا استحقاق ہے۔

    وَلِلنِّسَآءِ نَصِيبٚ مِّمَّا تَرَكَ ٱلْوَٟلِدَانِ وَٱلۡأَقْرَبُونَ

    And likewise subject to ground realities a share is the apportioned right for the Women out of the inheritance left by the Parents (Mother and Father) and the relatively Nearer Relatives.

    اور اسی طرح زمینی حقائق اور حالات کے مطابق اس ترکے میں جو ان کے والدین اور رشتے میں نسبتاًزیادہ قرابت داروں نے اپنے پیچھے چھوڑا ہے اس میں عورتوں کا استحقاق ہے۔

    مِمَّا قَلَّ مِنْهُ أَوْ كَثُرَۚ نَصِيبٙا مَّفْرُوضٙا .٧

    This share is out of that which has either become diminutive from that-inheritance or has become greater fortune, it is determined fortune by occasion.

    یہ استحقاق اس میں سے ہے جو(زمینی حقائق کے بموجب)کم ہو گیا ہے یا وہ بڑھ گیا ہے؛یہ وقت کے مطابق متعین کردہ حصہ/نصیب اپنا اپنا ہے
    This share is out of that which has either become diminutive from that-inheritance or has become greater fortune apportioned.

    You should first learn reading the text.

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      If you wish success and salvation Avoid relying on secondary sources.

      In all cases the allocation prescribed by Allah the Exalted shall prevail. The rest is for the deceased to bequeath or family to decide in case of sudden death.
      If the progeny is only daughter, half of heritage ---remains half
      If the progeny is two daughters or more 2/3 -----remains 1/3

      You should first learn reading the text.

      If you want to reach salvation, stop lying!

      411 فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْنِ fawqa ith'natayni
      "Over two!" (3+) NOT two daughters or more!

      4176 ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni
      "Two!" (Exactly 2!) NOT three sisters or more!

      you cannot solve simple case! give distributions stop being a coward!
      man died (accident) they ask you and moron tribe how much to each?

      mother, wife, exactly 2 daughters, 6 sisters

      one half sister (same mother only)
      two half sisters (same father only)
      three full sisters (same father and mother)

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        Mazhar
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        If you want to reach salvation, stop lying!

        411 فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْنِ fawqa ith'natayni
        "Over two!" (3+) NOT two daughters or more!

        4176 ٱثْنَتَيْنِ ith'natayni
        "Two!" (Exactly 2!) NOT three sisters or more!

        you cannot solve simple case! give distributions stop being a coward!
        man died (accident) they ask you and moron tribe how much to each?

        mother, wife, exactly 2 daughters, 6 sisters

        one half sister (same mother only)
        two half sisters (same father only)
        three full sisters (same father and mother)

        Over two? Who are these two? It is talking about real time event - not mere mathematics.
        Do you even know what adverb of location mean and connotes?
        Who are mentioned by Noon in كُنَّ? It is already plural pronoun meaning three or more feminine. Does "over two" means something different from three or more females?

        Pl learn reading Arabic before trying to be acting like Diophantus, Hero of Alexandria, or al-Khwârizmî

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          Over two?

          2 (3+) fawqa ithnatayni (above two)
          3 (4+) fawqa thalatha (above three)

          not answering? lets add father, who gets what?

          father, mother, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters
          one half sister (same mother)
          two half sisters (same father)
          three full sisters (same father and mother)

          you can google entire net, hadith, ask anyone only answer is here

          Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM

          https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

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            Mazhar
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            #805

            2 (3+) fawqa ithnatayni (above two)
            3 (4+) fawqa thalatha (above three)

            not answering? lets add father, who gets what?

            father, mother, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters
            one half sister (same mother)
            two half sisters (same father)
            three full sisters (same father and mother)

            you can google entire net, hadith, ask anyone only answer is here

            Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM

            https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

            Why are you consistently evasive? Over two of whom? Arabic has a specific entity for every cardinal number. It are not mere digits.

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              Mazhar
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              My sincere advice is that you first learn some basic things about Arabic.

              Start to understand the phrase and its first word أَوْلَٟدِكُمْ

              What type of noun is it?

              Need not tell you that a noun is not repeated but is then referred by pronoun.

              These verbs have a pronoun in them كُنَّ ; كَانَتْ; كَانَتَا ; كَانَ.

              Can all these four refer the above noun?

              If you understand not, leave for the time being digital work and try learning to understand the text.

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                Why are you consistently evasive? Over two of whom?

                411 awlādikum
                you never answer any distribution questions?
                add cowardly liar brother, how much to each?

                parents, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters, brother
                one half sister (same mother)
                two half sisters (same father) and bother
                three full sisters (same father and mother)

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                  Mazhar
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                  411 awlādikum
                  you never answer any distribution questions?
                  add cowardly liar brother, how much to each?

                  parents, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters, brother
                  one half sister (same mother)
                  two half sisters (same father) and bother
                  three full sisters (same father and mother)

                  The word awlādikum does not include in its semantic ambit except those in the birth of whom you had taken sexual part.
                  You are adamant not to learn basics of Arabic and are bent upon making imaginary equations.

                  Why not you answer questions about language and meanings before embarking upon mathematics? Fear of knowing the truth?

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                    Fear of knowing the truth?

                    blah blah blah then why not solve the problem?

                    parents, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters, brother
                    one half sister (same mother)
                    two half sisters (same father) and bother
                    three full sisters (same father and mother)

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                      Mazhar
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                      blah blah blah then why not solve the problem?

                      parents, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters, brother
                      one half sister (same mother)
                      two half sisters (same father) and bother
                      three full sisters (same father and mother)

                      When two daughters exist then the template is restricted to

                      يُوصِيكُـمُ ٱللَّهُ فِـىٓ أَوْلَٟدِكُمْۖ

                      2/3 of heritage is theirs.
                      1/3 remaining by the bequeath, if died suddenly without bequeath elders of family will decide for parents and near relatives.

                      Pay attention to the advice about learning "how to read a book" and basics of Arabic.

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                        When two daughters exist then the template is restricted to

                        يُوصِيكُـمُ ٱللَّهُ فِـىٓ أَوْلَٟدِكُمْۖ

                        2/3 of heritage is theirs.
                        1/3 remaining by the bequeath, if died suddenly without bequeath elders of family will decide for parents and near relatives.

                        nope decision by Mazhar's group of nineteen (masculine) morons! تِسْعةَ عَشرَ بليداً
                        family would split your bullhead talking bullshit in two (exactly two!)

                        for the benefit of other readers siblings get nothing!
                        1/3 parents 1/8 wife 13/24 daughters (same if sons)

                        Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM

                        https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

                        the thread is all yours! have fun in the fire liar!

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                          nope decision by Mazhar's group of nineteen (masculine) morons! تِسْعةَ عَشرَ بليداً
                          family would split your bullhead talking bullshit in two (exactly two!)

                          for the benefit of other readers siblings get nothing!
                          1/3 parents 1/8 wife 13/24 daughters (same if sons)

                          Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM

                          https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

                          the thread is all yours! have fun in the fire liar!

                          1/3 parents 1/8 wife 13/24 daughters (same if sons)

                          Relate it with the text of Qur"an. Otherwise it is just gossip. You seem not interested reading Qur'an. Where is 13/24 figure written in Qur'an?

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                            1/3 parents 1/8 wife 13/24 daughters (same if sons)

                            Where is 13/24 figure written in Qur'an?

                            1/3 parents (fixed 411) 1/8 wife (fixed 412) 13/24 remainder to children (variable)
                            1/3 parents (fixed 411) 1/8 wife (fixed 412) 13/24 to daughter/s OR son/s (variable)

                            always fixed amounts and one variable!
                            check out precision! who to payoff first!

                            1/3 mother (fixed 411) 2/3 remainder to father (variable)
                            1/3 mother (fixed 411) 1/4 wife (fixed "from what left" 412) 5/12 to father (variable)
                            1/3 mother (fixed 411) 1/3 husband (1/2*2/3 "what left" 412) 1/3 to father (variable)

                            simple logic! any combination!

                            Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM
                            https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

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                              Mazhar
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                              1/3 parents (fixed 411) 1/8 wife (fixed 412) 13/24 remainder to children (variable)
                              1/3 parents (fixed 411) 1/8 wife (fixed 412) 13/24 to daughter/s OR son/s (variable)

                              always fixed amounts and one variable!
                              check out precision! who to payoff first!

                              1/3 mother (fixed 411) 2/3 remainder to father (variable)
                              1/3 mother (fixed 411) 1/4 wife (fixed "from what left" 412) 5/12 to father (variable)
                              1/3 mother (fixed 411) 1/3 husband (1/2*2/3 "what left" 412) 1/3 to father (variable)

                              simple logic! any combination!

                              Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM
                              https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

                              Earlier quote 13/24 daughters (same if sons)

                              This is because of the knots you have made in your brain, nothing to match it with source text.

                              Source text begins with children and says

                              10١٠

                              يُوصِيكُـمُ ٱللَّهُ فِـىٓ أَوْلَٟدِكُمْۖ

                              لِلذَّكَرِ مِثْلُ حَظِّ ٱلۡأُنْثَيَيْـنِۚ

                              فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَۖ

                              This is the verdict of Allah swt. It is categorically fixed. But your imagination is
                              13/24 to daughters

                              Try to read and go by the book. Don't be Rashad Khalifa to play with digits by hook and crook.

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                                To help you untie the knots in your brain reflect and try to understand the importance of my earlier question to you.

                                These verbs have a pronoun in them كُنَّ ; كَانَتْ; كَانَتَا ; كَانَ.

                                Can all these four refer the above noun أولادكم awladikum?

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                                  Try to read and go by the book. Don't be Rashad Khalifa to play with digits by hook and crook.

                                  did you not play with nineteen in your other amazing word count thread?
                                  did you not post absurdity parents, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters, brother?

                                  2/3 of heritage is theirs.
                                  1/3 remaining by the bequeath, if died suddenly without bequeath elders of family will decide for parents and near relatives.

                                  you gave 2/3 to exactly two daughters?
                                  you gave 1/3 to father, mother, wife, 6 sisters, brother

                                  you say heck with 411 (1/6), 412 (1/ let others decide?

                                  part of understanding the solution in any field is to understand the problem
                                  take out 2 daughters and wife which you wrongly allocated then you decide? laugh

                                  parents, 6 sisters, brother
                                  one half sister (same mother)
                                  two half sisters (same father) and bother
                                  three full sisters (same father and mother)

                                  above is kalala case each gets a share

                                  https//sunnah.com/bukhari5588
                                  Narrated Ibn Umar ...Umar added, "I wish Allah's Apostle had not left us before he had given us definite verdicts concerning three matters, i.e., how much a grandfather may inherit, the inheritance of Al-Kalala, and various types of Riba (usury) ."

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                                    did you not play with nineteen in your other amazing word count thread?
                                    did you not post absurdity parents, wife, 2 daughters, 6 sisters, brother?

                                    you gave 2/3 to exactly two daughters?
                                    you gave 1/3 to father, mother, wife, 6 sisters, brother

                                    you say heck with 411 (1/6), 412 (1/ let others decide?

                                    part of understanding the solution in any field is to understand the problem
                                    take out 2 daughters and wife which you wrongly allocated then you decide? laugh

                                    parents, 6 sisters, brother
                                    one half sister (same mother)
                                    two half sisters (same father) and bother
                                    three full sisters (same father and mother)

                                    above is kalala case each gets a share

                                    https//sunnah.com/bukhari5588
                                    Narrated Ibn Umar ...Umar added, "I wish Allah's Apostle had not left us before he had given us definite verdicts concerning three matters, i.e., how much a grandfather may inherit, the inheritance of Al-Kalala, and various types of Riba (usury) ."

                                    You have gone absolutely absurd. You are just to prove your stupid mathematics defying plain straight forward injunction

                                    10١٠

                                    يُوصِيكُـمُ ٱللَّهُ فِـىٓ أَوْلَٟدِكُمْۖ

                                    لِلذَّكَرِ مِثْلُ حَظِّ ٱلۡأُنْثَيَيْـنِۚ

                                    فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءٙ فَوْقَ ٱثْنَتَيْـنِ فَلَـهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَ

                                    Allah swt says 2/3rd, you say no it is 13/24...
                                    So long you revert from patent stupidity and answer simple question which could help you get out of absurd calculations, be in peace,

                                    These verbs have a pronoun in them كُنَّ ; كَانَتْ; كَانَتَا ; كَانَ.

                                    Can all these four refer the above noun أولادكم awladikum?

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                                      Allah swt says 2/3rd, you say no it is 13/24...

                                      yes 13/24 is 100% accurate! laugh

                                      and you are 100% telling lies! >D

                                      Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM
                                      https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

                                      parents, 6 sisters, brother
                                      one half sister (same mother)
                                      two half sisters (same father) and bother
                                      three full sisters (same father and mother)

                                      we are waiting for your answer to above?

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                                        yes 13/24 is 100% accurate! laugh

                                        and you are 100% telling lies! >D

                                        Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM
                                        https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

                                        parents, 6 sisters, brother
                                        one half sister (same mother)
                                        two half sisters (same father) and bother
                                        three full sisters (same father and mother)

                                        we are waiting for your answer to above?

                                        Now you are becoming funny. Enjoy your gimmicks. Thanks.

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                                          parents, 6 sisters, brother
                                          one half sister (same mother)
                                          two half sisters (same father) and bother
                                          three full sisters (same father and mother)

                                          https//sunnah.com/muslim1617a
                                          Hadrat 'Umar (then) said If I live I would give such verdict about (Kalala) that everyone would be able to decide whether he reads the Qur'an or he does not.

                                          Quote from Noon waalqalami on October 23, 2022, 064239 AM
                                          https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

                                          half-siblings or full-siblings are siblings!

                                          1/6 mother (fixed 411) 1/3 siblings (fixed 412 1/3 max) 1/2 father (variable)
                                          1/3 siblings 4176 so to the male similitude apportion the females two
                                          (1/3 * 1/ 1/24 each sister (1/3 * 1/4) 1/12 brother
                                          6/24 six sisters + 2/24 brother = 8/24 = 1/3

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