What is love? - discuss.
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Yes it means covered, but it is meant to be interpreted covered as that you do not have a sound judgment because you have the wrong belief about something. That is being deluded. Arabic is very descriptive in its way of conveying its meaning. If you are covered it means you have certain difficulties much like if you were trapped in a cottage where the snow had covered the house. If you are in such a way then you cannot receive information properly.
668 you surely have to look at the interpretation of as well.
God
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You are contradicting yourself. Logic demands in order to conceal, to cover deliberately the information has to be available. If it is not available what is there to cover? Without information it no longer qualifies as concealing but rather ignorance, which by all means is something entirely different.
Applied to 668 God can not conceal sins if he wasn't aware of them in the first place. QED
Similarly, rabbinic jews cannot hide a revelation if it was never revealed to them.
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This thread has gone way off topic. Take it back or start a new thread, thanks.
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Peace all,
So I have been busy on the Nature of God topics. Lots of debate about what Allah/the God is or is not, but I was just thinking earlier that actually I didn't notice anyone say 'God is love'; I sometimes hear this but I don't really get it. If God is awareness is that what love is also?
Lots of people are obsessed with measuring how much they are loved or trying to get more - 'you don't love me enough' or 'you'd do it if you really loved me' etc, you hear a lot. I am thinking well, what is this precious stuff anyway? Maybe I don't care if or how much I am loved; I think personally if I were to just get to know what it was, then I think that would be enough for me...
anyone think they know??
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Peace
30/21 And one of His signs is that He created mates for you from yourselves that
you may find tranquillity in them, and He put between you love and mercy;
most surely there are signs in this for a people who reflect.I think the word love is a verb, meaning something that is done, an action,
something we can see and something we can feel (tranquility). I know my wife
loves me by the way she treats me and how she looks at me, and how she touches me,
and how she worries about me, and yes corrects me and the way she takes care of me,
how much she wants to be around me and the tranquility on her face when we
are doing nothing but cuddling, and when we sing our favorite song together and
when she cries because she says Allah has blessed her with a good marriage and family.
So I know what love is and don't have to ask "What is Love?"peace
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I know my wife loves me by the way she treats me and how she looks at me, and how she touches me, and how she worries about me, and yes corrects me and the way she takes care of me, how much she wants to be around me and the tranquility on her face when we are doing nothing but cuddling, and when we sing our favorite song together and when she cries because she says Allah has blessed her with a good marriage and family.
So, it is not strange then... if a woman worries about the man she loves...
Brother Hawk, does your wife often worry about you?
Do you think that is a sign of love?
And how do you feel about that? Is that bother you?
Would you tell more about the love between you and your wife? Please kindly share. D
Peace.
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So, it is not strange then... if a woman worries about the man she loves...
Peace JavaLatte
) no it's not strange (my opinion only) she worries
about my diet, slept habits, my health in general, if I'm happy etc.,
conversely I worry about my precious gift from Allah (my wife) so
we fuss over each other ) If we did not love one another we would
not care so deeply.Brother Hawk, does your wife often worry about you?
Now there's something that's strange, I don't think she has ever said
she worries about me. I think we/she have hinted at it though through
our behavior.Do you think that is a sign of love?
Yes, I think Its is a bad sign when your spouse gives up on you and
no longer cares about you as they once did.And how do you feel about that? Is that bother you?
A little, because I don't want her to worry but she finds
things to worry about and so do I and when I worry I turn to Allah.
and accept that "Allah is in control of all things".peace
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Peace JavaLatte
no it's not strange (my opinion only) she worries
about my diet, slept habits, my health in general, if I'm happy etc.,
conversely I worry about my precious gift from Allah (my wife) so
we fuss over each otherThank you for sharing such lovely story, brother Hawk.
I hope for that kind of precious gift from Allah as well.
But I mean a good husband... not a wife... ;D
If we did not love one another we would
not care so deeply.Yes. *nod
If God so Wills I'll remain chaste and patient until my Lord also enriches me from His Bounty as he has enriched you
Beautiful saying.
May God grant you a good and loyal spouse,
and also a happy marriage life that blessed by Him.
Peace.
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Beautiful saying.
May God grant you a good and loyal spouse,
and also a happy marriage life that blessed by Him.
Peace.
;D
May God also grant unto you a righteous and loyal spouse
And May if He so wills show you through this spouse one of His signs which you yearn for love
Peace
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@Hawk.
Wow a beautiful example )
If God so Wills I'll remain chaste and patient until my Lord also enriches me from His Bounty as he has enriched youPeace
10/62-64 Now surely the friends of Allah-- they shall have no fear nor
shall they grieve. Those who believe and guard they shall have good
news in this world's life and in the hereafter; there is no
changing the words of Allah; that is the mighty achievement.2/207 And among servants are those who devote themselves
seeking the pleasure of Allah; and Allah is Affectionate to the servants.May Allah reward you for you patience.
peace
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;D
May God also grant unto you a righteous and loyal spouse
And May if He so wills show you through this spouse one of His signs which you yearn for love
Praise be to Allah. )
Thank you very much. May my Rabb grant those
May Allah reward you with abundant goodness.
Peace.
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Peace everyone,
I thought I would share a few more quotes with you.
"Love recognizes no barriers. It jumps hurdles, leaps fences, penetrates walls to arrive at its destination full of hope."
- Maya Angelou
"I do not trust people who do not love themselves and yet tell me, 'I love you.' There is an African saying which is Be careful when a naked person offers you a shirt."
- Maya Angelou
"You cannot share what you do not have. If you do not love yourself, you cannot love anyone else either."
- Don Miguel Ruiz
"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection."
- Siddharta Gautama
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Peace everyone,
I would like to share some quotes with you. These are the last quotes from me (in this thread).
"The greatest love stories are not those in which love is only spoken of, but those in which it is acted upon."
- Steve Maraboli
"Everytime I thought I was being rejected from something good, I was actually being re-directed to something better."
- Steve Maraboli
"Try not to confuse attachment with love. Attachment is about fear and dependency, and has more to do with love of self than love of another. Love without attachment is the purest love because it isn't about what others can give you because your empty. It is about what you can give others because you're already full."
- Yasmin Mogahed
"The root of suffering is attachment."
- Siddharta Gautama
"If a person loves only one other person and is indifferent to all others, his love is not love but a symbiotic attachment, or an enlarged egotism."
- Erich Fromm
"Love is a decision, it is a judgment, it is a promise. If love were only a feeling, there would be no basis for the promise to love each other forever. A feeling comes and it may go. How can I judge that it will stay forever, when my act does not involve judgment and decision."
- Erich Fromm
"Love isn't something natural. Rather it requires discipline, concentration, patience, faith, and the overcoming of narcissism. It isn't a feeling, it is a practice."
- Erich Fromm
"Immature love says 'I love you because I need you.' Mature love says 'I need you because I love you."
- Erich Fromm
"In love the other is important; in lust you are important."
- Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh
"Love can never possess. Love is giving freedom to the other. Love is an unconditional gift, it is not a bargain."
- Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh
"Life without love is like a tree without blossoms or fruit."
- Khalil Gibran
"It is not a lack of love, but a lack of friendship that makes unhappy marriages."
- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietsche
"Don't chase people. Be yourself, do your own thing and work hard. The right people - the ones who really belong in your life - will come to you. And stay."
- Will Smith
"Appreciate being single because that's when you grow the most...and with that growth, you come to know what you're looking for."
- Daniel Goddard
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Salaam hawk,
How wonderful to read your posts.
By the grace of Allah, may those of us who are still existing in the bubble of our singledom be blessed with partners who are a blessing to us and we to them.
All praise is due to Allah, The Lord of The Worlds.
Peace.
Sajda.
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Peace.
Love is putting GOD first. That is true love, with that, you may love all His creation.
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Yet, some people set up idols to rival God, and love them as if they are God. Those who believe love God the most. If only the transgressors could see themselves when they see the retribution! They will realize then that all power belongs to God alone, and that God's retribution is awesome.
Beware, love ( of this life and in this life) can be an illusion.GOD bless.
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Salaam hawk,
How wonderful to read your posts.
By the grace of Allah, may those of us who are still existing in the bubble of our singledom be blessed with partners who are a blessing to us and we to them.
All praise is due to Allah, The Lord of The Worlds.
Peace.
Sajda.
Thank you Sajda, indeed, "All praise is due to Allah, The Lord of The Worlds."
May Allah grant you what you ask of himPeace.
Love is putting GOD first. That is true love, with that, you may love all His creation.
2165
Yet, some people set up idols to rival God, and love them as if they are God. Those who believe love God the most. If only the transgressors could see themselves when they see the retribution! They will realize then that all power belongs to God alone, and that God's retribution is awesome.
Beware, love ( of this life and in this life) can be an illusion.GOD bless.
Peace.Peace good logic, you are exactly correct. Acquiring understanding is one the
key elements to success in this life as well as the next. Why would any sane
person live a life other than an existence that conforms with the creator of that life?
Submission to Allah is the key to happiness, therefore if we want a happy life
we should ask Allah to give us one, but in order to receive this blessing our hearts (receptacles)
must conform to what is needed to receive such a blessing.May Allah reward your diligence
peace
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Peace everyone,
I like your posts in this thread hawk. I hope that those of us who are single/unmarried will be blessed with partners in the future.
It seems that many men and women are very picky, demanding and entitled these days. And it seems that many people expect to find a perfect/flawless person (a princess/prince). I think that if one has a lot of expectations/demands for a future partner, then it will become hard/difficult to find a compatible/like-minded partner. If/whenever I get to know a woman, I think it's important that we have similar beliefs and similar views on life. But we don't have to be carbon copies of each other. And we don't have to agree on everything. But we have to find a common ground. Also, people change. For example, I like to exercise regularly. And even though I want a future partner who also likes to exercise regularly, I am willing to get to know a woman who doesn't exercise at all. If I am lucky, she might start to exercise in the future. When it comes to getting to know the the opposite sex, I have many preferences. But I have few expectations.
Personally, I don't like to play games when I get to know the opposite sex. Therefore I just want to be myself from the beginning. I prefer that a woman I get to know be the same way. I think it's important to be authentic/real from the get go. Because then the opposite sex know who you are. Thus, you don't have to change/compromise yourself later.
I once read that the most happy/successful marriages, are those marriages where the husband and wives are best friends. Therefore, I want my future partner to be my best friend before we get married. If a person does not become my best friend before marriage, there is no guarantee that she will become my best friend after marriage. I believe that a marriage can only be happy/successful if a man and a woman are good/best friends. As a saying goes, "It is not a lack of love, but a lack of friendship that makes unhappy marriages."
Personally, I am not financially ready for marriage. I had some financial hardships/difficulties in the past. And used to worry about my economic situation. But a few years I ago, I overcame my financial hardships/difficulties. So thankfully, I no longer have to worry about my economic situation. That being said, I don't think that I am financially ready for marriage yet. Because the Quran suggests that a man (husband) should provide for his wife and child/children. I can provide for myself. But I can't provide for a partner yet.
Quran 2433 And let those who are not able to marry continue to be chaste until God enriches them of His Bounty. And if those who are maintained by your oaths seek to consummate the marriage, then document it with them if you find that they are ready, and give them from the wealth of God which He has bestowed upon you. And do not force your young women to need if they have desired to be independent, in order that you may make a gain in the goods of this worldly life. And if anyone has compelled them, then for their compulsion, God is Forgiving, Merciful.
From my understanding of the Quran, verse 2433 suggests that a man should remain pure/chaste (not get to know a woman as more than friends) until he is financially ready to take the friendship further. In other words, verse 2433 suggests that a man should ONLY be friends with a woman until he is financially ready to take the friendship further. As mentioned earlier, I'm not financially ready for marriage. Therefore, I have decided to not get know a woman in a romantic way (as more than friends) until the future (when I become financially ready for marriage). Thus, I have decided to only be friends (have a strictly platonic relationship) with a woman until I am financially ready to get to know a woman in a romantic way (as more than friends).
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My brothers and sisters... I would like to share an article with you.
5 advantages of being single
http//www.letstalkrelations.com/advantages-of-being-single.html
My hope is that those of you who are single/unmarried will find it helpful/useful.
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Thank you @ Hiroshi, for letting us here to know about the heartwarming illustrations from Puuung.
I found more of her works, and I think they're also interesting and beautiful.
These are links to see more of her artworks (illustrations of love)
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I really like this one
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Peace JavaLatte and everyone,
Thank you for sharing more of Puuung's works here. I like Puuung's artwork. I think that the pictures you shared in your links are a great addition to the link I shared (with some Puuung's artwork) in a post in this thread.
By the way, I'd like to share an article here.
Real love vs. The Fake Stuff
http//www.getfrank.co.nz/dating-romance-relationships/relationship-advice/real-love-vs-the-fake-stuff