What is love? - discuss.

[good_logic]

Peace Hawk.

Brother , do you think that there are different strengths of Love?

For example strong / weak love!

Also long term/short term love!
GOD bless you.
Peace.

[HP_TECH]

Peace Hawk.

Brother , do you think that there are different strengths of Love?

For example strong / weak love!

Also long term/short term love!
GOD bless you.
Peace.

He cannot objectively answer that question unless you define what YOU mean by love.

For example my understanding of love is blah blah
Hawk do you agree with love meaning blah blah
Hawk based on a definition we agree upon are there degrees of love( blah blah )?

[hawk99]

I endorse this. The objects are the ones that change but the act of loving remains consistent.
Love entails care, comfort, concern for, protection of and desire for the recipient to improve,succeed, progress, thrive. One of the qualities it holds it is that it is unconditional.

I believe people mistakenly load the word love with other ideas.
When most people refer to romantic love they load the word love with attraction and desire(& etc).
While these concepts are distinct from what love is.
You can have attraction towards someone or desire someone without loving them.
This is indicative of the word love having loaded meaning.

Hawk is correct, the act of loving or even the noun love is consistent

Peace HP_TECH excellent post, because you give details and words of
the aspects of love (positive). Appreciation can garner love.

Peace Hawk.

Brother , do you think that there are different strengths of Love?

For example strong / weak love!

Also long term/short term love!
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Great question good logic, Again, is your question "can love be in degrees"?
If you define love as I do as a verb I would say yes.

As far as short term and long term love goes, I would say yes you can have both
short term and long term love. However what happened in the case of short
term love to bring it to an end, why are the actions of love (submission to Allah)
care, comfort, concern (for a spouse) Support belief (of an idea) intensity, attention
(to our favorite team) no longer geared towards that object, what happened, convinced
otherwise? lost trust? lost interest because (fill in the blank) discovered something disturbing?
Suspicion? Bored?

[good_logic]

Peace Hawk.

I agree.
In other words we need to keep working hard at "Love" to keep it going at the right degree and keep it long term.
Qoran is right, we are here to work hard .A lot of effort is required daily to stay out of trouble.
"Love" is the most important of all the other traits one needs to have in life.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

[huruf]

I have askedthis question several times and nobody has answered. It must be very difficult.

My question has been, when all thi talk about love is going on, which word in the Arabic Qur'an would stand for "love" as expressed in all these messages?

Please do answer.

Salaam

[HP_TECH]

I have askedthis question several times and nobody has answered. It must be very difficult.

My question has been, when all thi talk about love is going on, which word in the Arabic Qur'an would stand for "love" as expressed in all these messages?

Please do answer.

Salaam

Hi huruf,

It's sort of like asking which Arabic word in Quran would best describe "righteous" there is not one word there are many different words that convey similar meaning.

The idea of a word in Quran maintaining a universal consistent meaning in every occurrence is a bit of a stretch.

Sometimes some words change meaning depending on context and other factors.

I find these set of roots

ha-ba-ba
wa-dal-dal
ra-ha-mim
ha-nun-nun
hamza-lam-fa

All these roots encompass definitions we have given for love in these messages some obviously more than others.

Why don't you tell us what you find sister?

[huruf]

I do not find anything, I just wanted to know what you were talking about. Love is like a catch all and anything word, particularly apt to allow moving pots around without end.

Salaam

[JavaLatte]

I've learned that love (true love) is not blind.

I think true love toward someone is the love where I can see (know, understand) why I love that person, and loving someone involves gratitude, steadfastness and loyalty. Loving another person is like having strong friendship with someone who walks on similar path - as if they walk together hand in hand on a road - they have a same/similar final destination and they support one another, seeking way to serve their Rabb and keep loyal to Him, and these two person are willing to forgive each other and listen to each other's dreams, feelings, ideas, and thoughts, thus they could understand each other in many ways.

Peace.

[IAMOP]

True Love is all that which leads to Paradise
If it leads to Hell it cannot be Love
This is because Allah, the One, the Source, is the Love
Denial of Love is Hell
Acceptance of Virtue is Love

This then has direct manifestations on the planet we live on
Love between individual servants is a subset
Love between a servant and Al-Wadud is the primary
With this Love then love between individual servants by necessity manifests onto the worldly plane (dunya)
This is intrinsic love
Love is for Creator first and foremost then Creator permits and forbids giving and receiving of energy
All other kinds of things going by the name of "love" are misleading
The only friendship is between people leading each other to Sure Witness of Sure Truth on the final day
This friendship carries with it Truth which is known by the nature of the discourses and actions which spring forth, being of an intrinsically purposeful nature
Discourse between souls of the nature of the implicate acceptance of the Hereafter is the only discourse that leads to Justice in dunya and in Akhirah
All else is frivolous and causes harm through the allocation of time to the shirk or munafiq, time which is allocated by Creator for the doing of good and for the cultivation of fruitive thoughts

All the pleasures are given through Creator's justice, pleasures of all kinds
This is because Creator is the Reason for Existence of All Things
All the pleasures that taghut claims to give or hold the keys to, Creator has already given them in full and with fulfilment in the heart
This is because taghut, shirk and munafiq/nifaq are rooted in attempt to deny Reason for Existence of All Things yet attempt to search for pleasure while denying Root of All Pleasure
Taghut - falsehood/oppression/injustice, shirk - blindly following others or oneself/idolatry, munafiq/nifaq - hypocrisy/self-delusion
Uncleanness masquerading as clarity is one kind of taghut - the body signals the feeling that something is not quite right - there is a trace of hurt
Uncleanness openly unclean is yet another kind of taghut - the body signals the feeling that something is openly not right
That which is natural, liberating, freeing, and of Supreme Justice, relaxation, tranquility, that is of Allah
That which answers all questions with the best of explanations leaving no further room for doubt having presented all scenarios and outcomes unconditionally loving and guiding to truth, that is of Allah

[hawk99]

Peace Hawk.

I agree.
In other words we need to keep working hard at "Love" to keep it going at the right degree and keep it long term.
Qoran is right, we are here to work hard .A lot of effort is required daily to stay out of trouble.
"Love" is the most important of all the other traits one needs to have in life.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Yes good logic I am not owed love, I must earn it, be deserving of it
by "being" that which can receive, and "becoming" the person who it should
be directed at. Not being afraid, humility, empathy, compromise and charity are key.
Like paradise we who are tested must earn it.

peace

[huruf]

I I were to follow my instinct, like an animal, yes, Man of Faith, like an animal alhamdulillah, my instinct, love or whatever, would be the instinct to die, to fuse, to attain absolute. All fallings in love are like sparks of the ONE light. We crave for it, but it is tooooooo much, so we must near it very little step by very little step, otherwise we will fall into may be emptiness, may be hell, may be nothingness. Love is the instinct for God, but we call it other things, a beautiful man, a wonderful day, the breeze and light of a may day. Love is beauty to the point of death. Love is ceasing to exist and be happy with it. Love is God's weapon to win us for Him and therefore for ourselves.

But love is a word which now is very trivial and imprecise.

Salaam