What makes food Halal?
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Do you guys agree with this article?
http//www.quran-islam.org/articles/halal_meat_(P1156).htmlWhy yes or why no?
If I for example were to buy chicken (without a halal label on it) from a simple (not islamic) supermarket and just mention the name of God on it before I eat it, does that make it halal?
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Do you guys agree with this article?
http//www.quran-islam.org/articles/halal_meat_(P1156).htmlWhy yes or why no?
If I for example were to buy chicken (without a halal label on it) from a simple (not islamic) supermarket and just mention the name of God on it before I eat it, does that make it halal?
sorry didn't read the article.
Mentioning the name of God does not make a thing halal or haram.
Imo, the more healthy the food is the more "halal" it is and the more unhealthy the more "haram".
The only reason for me not to eat chicken would be if I knew it (the chicken) was brought on my plate in a wrong way. -
Do you guys agree with this article?
http//www.quran-islam.org/articles/halal_meat_(P1156).htmlWhy yes or why no?
If I for example were to buy chicken (without a halal label on it) from a simple (not islamic) supermarket and just mention the name of God on it before I eat it, does that make it halal?
Salam,
the hypocrites will try to get as much money as possible through this confusion.
What do you or anyone else think the butchers are saying to make food "halal"?
They say "In the name of God"; Bismillah.
Nowhere in Quran does it say that "Bismillah" must be uttered by a butcher or an imam etc.
Also, how do we know they slaughter the animals? I have always held the thought a machine and a tape recorder would profit them more ;D
Buy meat, mention the name of God.
6119 And why should you not eat that on which the name of God has
been mentioned, when He has fully detailed to you what has been
made forbidden; except what you are forced to? Many misguide
by their desires without knowledge; your Lord is fully aware of
the transgressors.There is of course a trust issue with the halal-marked food. What if they haven't mentioned the name of God? It's just better to do it ourselves, or if a believer shares.
Salam
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Do you guys agree with this article?
http//www.quran-islam.org/articles/halal_meat_(P1156).htmlWhy yes or why no?
If I for example were to buy chicken (without a halal label on it) from a simple (not islamic) supermarket and just mention the name of God on it before I eat it, does that make it halal?
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We should study the Torah to understand this whole "Halal" doctrine. Doesn't the Quran tell the people of the Book that they have no bases if they do not uphold the Torah and the Gospel, and we know for certain that the Quran also is a Book.
How can someone understand the alphabet when learning just the last few letters. How can someone understand a book by reading only the last volume?
Especially with ruling, we see that sects do not know when or how to stop when it comes to "Halal" and "Haram". So watch out, make your homework guys!
How many times did God call the Torah and the Gospel a guidance. We can't ignore it, and take sites as free-minds etc. as the guidance and the light over them. That's plain idolatry.
I advice all of you to read the Torah to understand subjects like "Halal" food. It's very very detailed when it comes to the details.
For example, i stopped eating shrimps, because i see it as "Not Halaal", just like pigs etc.
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We should study the Torah to understand this whole "Halal" doctrine. Doesn't the Quran tell the people of the Book that they have no bases if they do not uphold the Torah and the Gospel, and we know for certain that the Quran also is a Book.
How can someone understand the alphabet when learning just the last few letters. How can someone understand a book by reading only the last volume?
Especially with ruling, we see that sects do not know when or how to stop when it comes to "Halal" and "Haram". So watch out, make your homework guys!
How many times did God call the Torah and the Gospel a guidance. We can't ignore it, and take sites as free-minds etc. as the guidance and the light over them. That's plain idolatry.
I advice all of you to read the Torah to understand subjects like "Halal" food. It's very very detailed when it comes to the details.
For example, i stopped eating shrimps, because i see it as "Not Halaal", just like pigs etc.
Salam,
If I'm not wrong, the Jews were restricted from certain foods because of their transgression that believers are not.
In Quran , all catch of the sea is permissible.
Lastly, Quran suffices.
Salam
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Salam,
If I'm not wrong, the Jews were restricted from certain foods because of their transgression that believers are not.
In Quran , all catch of the sea is permissible.
Lastly, Quran suffices.
Salam
Can you bring your proof? Where do you read in the Quran that every catch from the sea is permissible for us to eat? This doesn't make sense at all since we are prohibited from certain catches from the sea in the Torah, but what makes sense is that you didn't understand it correctly.
I don't think you have the right to abrogate Laws from Previous Scriptures, especially the Law itself which is called the Torah in Hebrew. But if you can't bring your proof then know that what you said is just from your own desires and a lie!
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Can you bring your proof? Where do you read in the Quran that every catch from the sea is permissible for us to eat? This doesn't make sense at all since we are prohibited from certain catches from the sea in the Torah, but what makes sense is that you didn't understand it correctly.
I don't think you have the right to abrogate Laws from Previous Scriptures, especially the Law itself which is called the Torah in Hebrew. But if you can't bring your proof then know that what you said is just from your own desires and a lie!
Calm down, Im not your enemy rotfl
596 Permissible for you is the catch of the sea, to eat it as enjoyment for you and for those who travel; and forbidden for you is the catch of the land as long as you are under restriction; and be aware of God to whom you will be gathered.
Salam
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Greetings and Peace, all group
Do you guys agree with this article?
http//www.quran-islam.org/articles/halal_meat_(P1156).htmlWhy yes or why no?
If I for example were to buy chicken (without a halal label on it) from a simple (not islamic) supermarket and just mention the name of God on it before I eat it, does that make it halal?
I disagree with parts of the article. For instance, a believer need not pronounce anything over food before consuming it--they should remember the Almighty.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605037.0;all
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602254.msg340835#msg340835
It depends on what a person means by "halal." If food is labeled halal, there are certain expectations. Although food of "People of the Book" is expressly allowed, I can't think of a single traditional Muslim who would accept kosher wine as being halal. The acceptability of alcohol is discussed at length in other threads.
Anything not expressly disallowed is allowed. Halal means "not disallowed." Meat of pig is disallowed (under ordinary circumstances), but bones are separate from meat. Bones are often used in gelatin. Fat is not meat either. Insects, such as are used in common food colorings are not disallowed. Enzymes from animals that were not slaughtered traditionally that are used in cheeses are not disallowed. This frees up all manner of hardships. I'd neither have issue with zabiha chicken nor chicken from a supermarket. I might be willing to pay a little extra to do business with a small business or for superior product, but that's about it.
According to the Old Testament, shellfish are abominations. According to the Qur'an, shellfish are edible. Since the Qur'an is enough for a believer, I'll have to stick with the Qur'an on this one.
3512 Nor are the two seas the same. One is fresh and palatable, good to drink, while the other is salty and bitter. And from each of them you eat tender meat, and you extract jewelry to wear. And you see the ships sailing through them, seeking His provisions; and perhaps you may be thankful.
The dietary rules are pretty simple and easy to apply. Simple is good; think about the people of Moses (peace upon all Prophets). We shouldn't be like these people.
267 And Moses said to his people "GOD orders you to slaughter a heifer." They said "Do you mock us?" He said "I seek refuge with GOD that I not be of the ignorant ones."
268 They said "Call upon your Lord for us that He may clarify which it is." He said "He says it is a heifer neither too old nor too young, an age between that. So now do as you are commanded."
269 They said "Call upon your Lord for us that He may clarify what color it is." He said "He says it is a yellow heifer with a strong color, pleasing to those who see it."
270 They said "Call upon your Lord for us that He may clarify which one it is, for the heifers all look alike to us and we will, GOD willing, be guided."
271 He said "He says it is a heifer which was never subjugated to plough the land, or water the crops, free from any blemish." They said "Now you have come with the truth." And they slaughtered it, though they had nearly not done so.
One thing to be careful of is food that is blessed in any name other than any of the beautiful names/the Almighty. If someone says "in Jesus' name we pray" I have to decline the food. I can accept food if someone were to say "in Jesus' name I pray."
2267 For every nation We have established rites which they are to fulfill. So do not let the matter fall into dispute. And call upon your Lord, for you are on a guidance which is straight.
ALLAH knows best.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi
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Can you bring your proof? Where do you read in the Quran that every catch from the sea is permissible for us to eat? This doesn't make sense at all since we are prohibited from certain catches from the sea in the Torah, but what makes sense is that you didn't understand it correctly.
I don't think you have the right to abrogate Laws from Previous Scriptures, especially the Law itself which is called the Torah in Hebrew. But if you can't bring your proof then know that what you said is just from your own desires and a lie!
Yow christ wannabe, A Submitter just showed you the verse. So instead of spamming random verses from the scripture to push forward your own agenda, try to actually read all the books to understand them.
The Quran doesn't abrogate, it just exposes the lies and corruptions in the older scriptures.
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Actually beef in US is haraam as the cow is first hit with a bolt gun in the head prior to slitting the throat. Quran talks about any animal which is killed by a blow to be haraam. Chicken is halal since it is stunned by dipping in electric bath and then throat cut. For beef the bolt gun produces irreversible unconsciousness but for chicken the electrocution does not produce irreversible unconsciousness. Heart continues to beat for both cases. Most processors follow this method as mandated by FDA. You can google if you wish. You should recite Gods name before eating anything. This is my understanding.
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Greetings and Peace, all group
Actually beef in US is haraam as the cow is first hit with a bolt gun in the head prior to slitting the throat. Quran talks about any animal which is killed by a blow to be haraam. Chicken is halal since it is stunned by dipping in electric bath and then throat cut. Most processors follow this method as mandated by FDA. You can google if you wish. You should recite Gods name before eating anything. This is my understanding.
The cow is stunned by the bolt, and not killed by it. This would not cause the cow to be killed in an unlawful or ritually impure fashion.
Excerpt A captive bolt pistol or gun (also variously known as a cattle gun, stunbolt gun, bolt gun, or stunner) is a device used for stunning animals prior to slaughter.
The goal of captive bolt stunning is to inflict a forceful strike on the forehead with the bolt in order to induce unconsciousness.
Source https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_bolt_pistol
Regarding reciting versus remembering...
6118 So eat from that on which the name of GOD has been remembered , if you indeed believe in His revelations.
3135, 774, 7205 should make it clear that the correct words are "remember/remembered".
3135 And those who, if they commit lewdness, or wrong themselves, they remember GOD and seek forgiveness for their sins. And who can forgive the sins except GOD? And they do not persist in what they have done while they know.
774 "And remember that He made you successors after 'Aad, and He established you in the land so that you make palaces on its plains, and you carve homes in the mountains. So remember the grace of GOD, and do not roam the earth as corrupters."
7205 And remember your Lord within yourself, in humility and in reverence; and without loudness in words, during the morning and the evening. And do not be of the careless ones.
2236 And the plump livestock, We have made them for you to be among the symbols of GOD; you will have benefit in them. So remember the name of GOD upon them in succession; then, once their sides have become still, you may eat from them and feed with them the poor and the needy. It was thus that We have made them in service to you, that you may be thankful.
Reciting isn't forbidden, of course--but many people of the world seem to make a show to other people rather than make a privileged communication to the Almighty. Nothing new of this; the Bible even mentions it. Whatever you do, be humble, faithful and genuine.
Matthew 65 "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.
ALLAH knows best.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi
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Yow christ wannabe, A Submitter just showed you the verse. So instead of spamming random verses from the scripture to push forward your own agenda, try to actually read all the books to understand them.
The Quran doesn't abrogate, it just exposes the lies and corruptions in the older scriptures.
How can the Books of God be corrupt? It's that thought which is corrupt!
The Quran clarifies a lot, and it is a Guidance and a Light. So did the Gospel, the Psalms and the Torah.
Your opinion about the Scriptures does not make them corrupt. Your desires do not make them corrupt. Your false doctrines which you spread in name of them does not make them corrupt.
And it's an honour to be able to follow the footsteps of the Messiah, son of Mary which is called Jesus. And it's an treasure to be able to obey the word of God which is called the Gospel which also means the good news.
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Greetings and Peace, all group
I disagree with parts of the article. For instance, a believer need not pronounce anything over food before consuming it--they should remember the Almighty.http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605037.0;all
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602254.msg340835#msg340835
It depends on what a person means by "halal." If food is labeled halal, there are certain expectations. Although food of "People of the Book" is expressly allowed, I can't think of a single traditional Muslim who would accept kosher wine as being halal. The acceptability of alcohol is discussed at length in other threads.
Anything not expressly disallowed is allowed. Halal means "not disallowed." Meat of pig is disallowed (under ordinary circumstances), but bones are separate from meat. Bones are often used in gelatin. Fat is not meat either. Insects, such as are used in common food colorings are not disallowed. Enzymes from animals that were not slaughtered traditionally that are used in cheeses are not disallowed. This frees up all manner of hardships. I'd neither have issue with zabiha chicken nor chicken from a supermarket. I might be willing to pay a little extra to do business with a small business or for superior product, but that's about it.
According to the Old Testament, shellfish are abominations. According to the Qur'an, shellfish are edible. Since the Qur'an is enough for a believer, I'll have to stick with the Qur'an on this one.
3512 Nor are the two seas the same. One is fresh and palatable, good to drink, while the other is salty and bitter. And from each of them you eat tender meat, and you extract jewelry to wear. And you see the ships sailing through them, seeking His provisions; and perhaps you may be thankful.
The dietary rules are pretty simple and easy to apply. Simple is good; think about the people of Moses (peace upon all Prophets). We shouldn't be like these people.
267 And Moses said to his people "GOD orders you to slaughter a heifer." They said "Do you mock us?" He said "I seek refuge with GOD that I not be of the ignorant ones."
268 They said "Call upon your Lord for us that He may clarify which it is." He said "He says it is a heifer neither too old nor too young, an age between that. So now do as you are commanded."
269 They said "Call upon your Lord for us that He may clarify what color it is." He said "He says it is a yellow heifer with a strong color, pleasing to those who see it."
270 They said "Call upon your Lord for us that He may clarify which one it is, for the heifers all look alike to us and we will, GOD willing, be guided."
271 He said "He says it is a heifer which was never subjugated to plough the land, or water the crops, free from any blemish." They said "Now you have come with the truth." And they slaughtered it, though they had nearly not done so.
One thing to be careful of is food that is blessed in any name other than any of the beautiful names/the Almighty. If someone says "in Jesus' name we pray" I have to decline the food. I can accept food if someone were to say "in Jesus' name I pray."
2267 For every nation We have established rites which they are to fulfill. So do not let the matter fall into dispute. And call upon your Lord, for you are on a guidance which is straight.
ALLAH knows best.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi
Shellfish "haraam" according to the Torah? And "halaal" according to the Quran?
Can you elaborate on that with the specific verses from the Torah and the Quran?
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How can the Books of God be corrupt? It's that thought which is corrupt!
The Quran clarifies a lot, and it is a Guidance and a Light. So did the Gospel, the Psalms and the Torah.
Your opinion about the Scriptures does not make them corrupt. Your desires do not make them corrupt. Your false doctrines which you spread in name of them does not make them corrupt.
And it's an honour to be able to follow the footsteps of the Messiah, son of Mary which is called Jesus. And it's an treasure to be able to obey the word of God which is called the Gospel which also means the good news.
Dude to be honest I haven't read the older scriptures. However, which Gospel? Which book? Authorized by King James? What about the differences between them?
Let's say they're perfect, you believe you should be one with Christ and he's your saviour...your avatar had the cross and a fake picture of jesus carrying it around. Dude, you remind me of my friends, too blind to open their minds and think alittle.
Now back to the topic, A Submitter showed you the verse, what is your explanation?
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Dude to be honest I haven't read the older scriptures. However, which Gospel? Which book? Authorized by King James? What about the differences between them?
Let's say they're perfect, you believe you should be one with Christ and he's your saviour...your avatar had the cross and a fake picture of jesus carrying it around. Dude, you remind me of my friends, too blind to open their minds and think alittle.
Now back to the topic, A Submitter showed you the verse, what is your explanation?
Good to be honest, may the Lord save you because of your honesty.
An English translation of the Gospel - Matthew 77 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you 8 ?For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.?
So seek o brother!
And lets read this quranic verse to give answer to your question An English translation of the Quran - 547 And let the people of the Gospel judge with what God has sent down in it. And whoever does not judge with what God has sent down, then these are the wicked.
So already in the lifetime there should be an Gospel. Because otherwise how could the believers now and then let the people of the Gospel judge with a Gospel if you follow others which tell you that there isn't.
And again, we read here An English translation of the Quran - 355 For God said "O Jesus, I will terminate your life, and raise you to Me, and cleanse you of those who have rejected, and make those who have followed you above those who have rejected until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, all of you,so I will judge between you in what it was that you disputed."
Until the Day of Resurrection there will be those who followed Jesus, son of Mary, the Messiah, and our Lord will make them above those who rejected!
But there is more said to us, but to give an answer Read from Matthew until Revelations in the Bible. The Apostles helped Jesus, son of Mary, the Messiah.
Matthew was an apostle, so was Mark, Luke and John, and Paul, Peter, and others of the twelve.
The point is, the Gospel is translated so much, that people think there exist different versions. But the fact is, that the Gospel is the most translated document in the history.
To clarify about the King James translation, it's said that it's a good English translation. But it's just a translation. There is no second or third Gospel.
I don't care about what you say now about me, and i hope you will understand soon what the Gospel said. But you said, to blind to open my mind? Look at this verse
An English translation of the Gospel - Matthew 73 ?And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye??
How should i open my mind for rejecting and denying the word of God, but yet you think of yourself that yours is opened while you reject and deny the word of God?
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Adam,
The Biblical Gospels are incompatible with the sectarian interpretation of Quran. There is no use in trying to make it conform with it.
If one has faith in Quran then the Biblical Gospels are useless.
Be well
Amenuel -
Greetings and Peace, all group
Shellfish "haraam" according to the Torah? And "halaal" according to the Quran?
Can you elaborate on that with the specific verses from the Torah and the Quran?
Sure! )
2173 He has only forbidden for you carrion, and blood, and the meat of pig, and what was dedicated with to other than GOD. Whoever finds himself forced out of need, without seeking disobedience or transgression, then there is no sin upon him. GOD is Forgiving, Merciful.
53 Forbidden for you is carrion, and blood, and the meat of pig, and what was sacrificed to other than GOD, and that which has been strangled, and that which has been bludgeoned, and that which has fallen from a height, and that which has been gored, and that which a wild animal has savaged-unless it was slaughtered while it still lived, and what has been slaughtered on altars, and what you divide through arrows of chance. This is all vile. Today the rejecters have given up from your system, so do not be concerned by them, but be concerned by Me. Today I have perfected your system for you, and completed My blessings upon you, and I have approved submission as the system for you. So, whoever is forced by severe hunger and not seeking sin, then GOD is Forgiving, Merciful.
596 Permissible for you is the catch of the sea, to eat it as enjoyment for you and for those who travel; and forbidden for you is the catch of the land as long as you are under restriction; and be aware of GOD to whom you will be gathered.
6145 Say "I do not find in what is inspired to me to be forbidden for any eater to eat except that it be carrion, or running blood, or the meat of pig-for it is foul-or what has become vile by being dedicated to other than GOD." But whoever is forced to, without seeking disobedience or transgression, then your Lord is Forgiving, Merciful.
16115 He has only forbidden for you carrion, and blood, and the meat of pig, and what was dedicated to other than GOD. But whoever is forced to, without seeking disobedience or transgression, then GOD is Forgiver, Merciful.
3512 Nor are the two seas the same. One is fresh and palatable, good to drink, while the other is salty and bitter. And from each of them you eat tender meat, and you extract jewelry to wear. And you see the ships sailing through them, seeking His provisions; and perhaps you may be thankful.
Leviticus 1112 Anything living in the water that does not have fins and scales is to be regarded as unclean by you.
Deuteronomy 1410 And whatsoever hath not fins and scales ye may not eat; it is unclean unto you.
ALLAH knows best.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi
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Greetings and Peace, all group
Sure!
2173 He has only forbidden for you carrion, and blood, and the meat of pig, and what was dedicated with to other than GOD. Whoever finds himself forced out of need, without seeking disobedience or transgression, then there is no sin upon him. GOD is Forgiving, Merciful.
53 Forbidden for you is carrion, and blood, and the meat of pig, and what was sacrificed to other than GOD, and that which has been strangled, and that which has been bludgeoned, and that which has fallen from a height, and that which has been gored, and that which a wild animal has savaged-unless it was slaughtered while it still lived, and what has been slaughtered on altars, and what you divide through arrows of chance. This is all vile. Today the rejecters have given up from your system, so do not be concerned by them, but be concerned by Me. Today I have perfected your system for you, and completed My blessings upon you, and I have approved submission as the system for you. So, whoever is forced by severe hunger and not seeking sin, then GOD is Forgiving, Merciful.
596 Permissible for you is the catch of the sea, to eat it as enjoyment for you and for those who travel; and forbidden for you is the catch of the land as long as you are under restriction; and be aware of GOD to whom you will be gathered.
6145 Say "I do not find in what is inspired to me to be forbidden for any eater to eat except that it be carrion, or running blood, or the meat of pig-for it is foul-or what has become vile by being dedicated to other than GOD." But whoever is forced to, without seeking disobedience or transgression, then your Lord is Forgiving, Merciful.
16115 He has only forbidden for you carrion, and blood, and the meat of pig, and what was dedicated to other than GOD. But whoever is forced to, without seeking disobedience or transgression, then GOD is Forgiver, Merciful.
3512 Nor are the two seas the same. One is fresh and palatable, good to drink, while the other is salty and bitter. And from each of them you eat tender meat, and you extract jewelry to wear. And you see the ships sailing through them, seeking His provisions; and perhaps you may be thankful.
Leviticus 1112 Anything living in the water that does not have fins and scales is to be regarded as unclean by you.
Deuteronomy 1410 And whatsoever hath not fins and scales ye may not eat; it is unclean unto you.
ALLAH knows best.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi
2173 He has only forbidden for you carrion, and blood, and the meat of pig, and what was dedicated with to other than GOD. Whoever finds himself forced out of need, without seeking disobedience or transgression, then there is no sin upon him. GOD is Forgiving, Merciful.
53 Forbidden for you is carrion, and blood, and the meat of pig, and what was sacrificed to other than GOD, and that which has been strangled, and that which has been bludgeoned, and that which has fallen from a height, and that which has been gored, and that which a wild animal has savaged-unless it was slaughtered while it still lived, and what has been slaughtered on altars, and what you divide through arrows of chance. This is all vile. Today the rejecters have given up from your system, so do not be concerned by them, but be concerned by Me. Today I have perfected your system for you, and completed My blessings upon you, and I have approved submission as the system for you. So, whoever is forced by severe hunger and not seeking sin, then GOD is Forgiving, Merciful.
Your "only" quotations, is the translation correct because why do you quote only? And right in the verse below it that you presented it said in your translation that also that which has fallen from a height, and which has been gored and that which an wild animal has savaged-unless it was slaughtered while it still lived, and what has been slaughtered on altars, and what you divide through arrows of chance is also not permissible. So check your translation, and stop having a double standard.
596 Permissible for you is the catch of the sea, to eat it as enjoyment for you and for those who travel; and forbidden for you is the catch of the land as long as you are under restriction; and be aware of GOD to whom you will be gathered.
Where does 596 tell you to ignore the rules about the catch of the sea in the Torah? And do you even yourself follow 596 when it tells you to not eat the catch of the land if you are under restriction?
Anyways, thank you for sharing the Torah. How ironic, you don't believe in it, but yet you use it. All praise due to God, Lord of the Worlds.
An English translation of the Gospel - "It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Torah". (Luke 1617)
Do we, then, nullify the Torah by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the Torah. (Romans 331)
We know that the Torah is good if one uses it properly. We also know that Torah is made not for the righteous but for the ones without Torah. (1 Timothy 18,9)
But the man who looks intently into the perfect Torah that gives freedom, and continue to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it - he will be blessed in what he does. (James 125)
"Do not think that I (Yeshua) have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Torah until everything is accomplished". (Matthew 517,1
And again this is what i read in the Quran - 1117 For those who are on a clarity from their Lord, and are followed by a testimony from Him; and before it was the Book of Moses, a beacon and a mercy; they will believe in it. And whoever rejects it from among the Confederates, then the Fire is his meeting place. So do not be in any doubt about it. It is the truth from your Lord, but most of the people do not believe.
So why are you inviting me to the Fire while i am inviting you to Guidance and Light, a beacon and a mercy?