Are there Female prophetess

centi50

Salam to All,

1643 And We did not send any except men before you whom We inspired, so ask the people who have received the Reminder if you do not know.

Just read this today, so I am wondering does this mean all messengers were men or does mean something else.

God bless

huruf

You have to bear in mind the meaning of the root r-j-l, to go on foot, walk. Rajul is not sex derived, but standing derived, like let us say it is a sociological meaning, just like nisaa', plural of woman, imra't, is a sociological meaning.

r-j-l denotes a person able to walk by him.herself, to stand by him or herself, whereas nisaa' refers to time-tide happenings or events. Obviously there are different time circumstances in a woman's life, that do not happen in man's life.
But there may be men also ho have such circumstance for hatever reason. So rajul-rijaal and nisaa' are sociological constructs.

So women indeed can be rijaal and so has been the term been used. Rijaal-ul-lah is ell known concept in islamic spirituality and it includes women.

Also, please look ayas from 7.46 onwards and tell me whether those who are meant do have to have the attributes of males or whether it is indifferent.

Prophets of any sex, by their very condition are rijaal, even if they are also nisaa'. Prophets stand by themselves on their, feet or rather are kept so by God.

As to aya you mention it has to be understood as comprising both sexes since beside hat is being asserted is not the sex of anybody but the fact that God's inspires them. The fact that they would have a particular sex is of no significance nor it stated so, because if that was the idea, there is in the Qur'an very widely used term which it unequivocally determines the sex of the person, and as said, very, very widely used which is dhakar, plural dhukran or dhukur, and for the ome there is unthaa, plural inaathaa, if any of dhkar or unthaa is used, then you are completely remited to the sex of the person. If God had wanted to signify that, the use of dhakar would have been required.

If you take 16.43 to mean dhakar, you are taking a step of your own accord, imposing a particular sex on the will of God to send messengers or prophets or warners. Not God is taking that step, you are taking it. And by that step, whoever takes it is saying that Maryam was not inspired, that she had no mission from God, that God in the Qur'an is talking to us about her just for fun, no meaning to it. She means nothing to humanity nor for the women of humanity, that she is just any mother of a prophet as there are so many, many mothers of prophets who are never named nor mentionned in the Qur'an, least of all that by God's order their sons are named by the order og God by the name of their mother and not the other way around. Oh, yes, they will say to you, because he had no father, really? he had grandfather, he had uncles, he had males he could have been named after, and tht is very much used in semitic societies. Maryam seems to be that kind of hook God puts many times int he Qur'an where hypocrites can cling in order to appears as believers while in fact they believe more in their male body parts than in God.

I repeat again, it is a pity if you cannot read arabic, but pray to God, that he inspires you to dig truth out of mistranslations or unsifficient translations, because Maryam is decisive, for humanity and for women.

You see, God has told us about many male prophets int he Qur'an and in spite of it, you see that there are males that cling like hell to the maculinity of prophethood, but do nto follow, God forbid, the example set by prophets. Self effacing, self-sacrificing, humble, alwways serviciable to people, included, eminently women people.

In fact, don't you feel that it is indredible ludicrous that one big discussion amonst muslims should be that omen cannot be prophets, or that Maryam cannot be a prophet? What is the loss for anybody to have a woman be prophet. It is very depressing.

However, there r many men who believe Maryam is indeed a prophet. All the great
men of the good islamic age believed so, like Aben Arabi, Ibn Ruschd, etc.

But modern biggots know better.

Do something, go to Corpus.Qur?n.com and verify for yoursef all the ocurrences of rijaal. Verify for yourself. Anybody can do that and ill spare him or herself spewing so much nonsense.

If you cannot do it because of the arabic, here is the link on rijaal

http//corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=rjl

Then you can check all the ayas with the ones before and after to be sure about the context.

Salaam

almarh0m

Salamun Alaykum

There is no specific verse in AQ ruling out females Nabi, Rasool, Warner or bringer of good news, if there is, I am still to find it/them. If you care to read and think about 25/20, you will find that no gender was mentioned except that those who were appointed as above were/are all ordinary human being who consume food and drinks.

And We did not send before you, , any of the messengers except that they ate food and walked in the markets. And We have made some of you as trial for others - will you have patience? And ever is your Lord, Seeing.

Salamun Alaykum

Amra94