Are there Female prophetess
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my sister do u have a habit of doing personal attacks with arrogance?
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If your debate partner does personal attacks against you then it's a sign that you're winning the debate. (so chill out and just smile)
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On average Female tends to be more emotional (and subjective) than male, it's also a commonly known facts, i'm not saying that it is good or bad, I'm just stating the facts. It however also doesn't mean that there are no male who are more emotional (and subjective) than female. The motivation of doing personal attacks is because she (or he) is in defensive mode, he (or she) feel threatened thus as reaction she (or he) need to personally attack you back.
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Peace Imran.
Sorry try again.
Just tell me how you say a mixture of male and female -plural for messengers- in Arabic|?
We can then resume about 2351 and who the verse is addressing .
Please stay with this for now do not deviate about prophets or any other topic.
GOD bless you.
Peace.peace brother GL,
dnt worry mate i m staying with this as long as u want if u already decided to see all the nails in coffin rotflyou TRY again and again and again and again rotfl i got a hint for you how to start.
see if there is any dual noun ?as i see you missed four imp points in my post but before i show other three points to you and make you think alot so better solve this grammmer issue (AS per scholarly rules).
God bless you
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- If your debate partner does personal attacks against you then it's a sign that you're winning the debate. (so chill out and just smile)
lol i already had these signs so many times.
winning debate could b one possible reason but real problem is connected with pyschology of human and also different things apply to see why somebody behaving strange and low.factors are as follows,
age
bad memories
accidently something bad happen in past.
wishful self claimed ideas as facts
envious nature
high arrogance drive etc etc .i dnt know why i m laughing so much sharing this post but anyway some theories say happiness is good for health. lol good for me yay
- On average Female tends to be more emotional (and subjective) than male, it's also a commonly known facts, i'm not saying that it is good or bad, I'm just stating the facts. It however also doesn't mean that there are no male who are more emotional (and subjective) than female. The motivation of doing personal attacks is because she (or he) is in defensive mode, he (or she) feel threatened thus as reaction she (or he) need to personally attack you back.
lol very true i also had one personal experience.
the lowest of the people in land who become personal in proffessional matters, if they can only understand that they are violating the law of debate by saying personal things and making other opponent say them things in return HENCE definate trouble in land/forum. starters of mischiefmaking lol.
btw i just see i got one witness now 25 lashes are confirmed hahahaha just joking guys i had a hard day today so chilling with all of you as per my lovely brother jafars advise.
God bless us all.
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Peace Imran.
Here is the first thing we need to establish
What is the word for the plural of a mixture of male and female messengers in Arabic?
If you know give me the word , we will then continue with the subject and context of the messengers of surah 23.
GOD bless you.
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Peace Bygane.
In 2351 GOD is carrying on talking about the Rusul-Messengers- Ya Ayuha Rusul, O you messengers that were the subject since 2323.
If you carry on with the context you will see the past ,for example 2353 uses the past tense -Fatakattau Amrahoom Baynahoom- is the past tense.GOD bless you.
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Salam Logic...
You are confused or you are not being able to get out of the strangle with your statement Maryam was a prophet.. The verse 2351 is not talking about future.. This is a statement made common to all messengers of Allah asking them to eat and drink while they were alive... That's why after mentioning innumerable messengers on verses before 2351 God points out what He said to those messengers...
Logic I am repeating.. I think you have not read my reply thread or the chapter carefully... 2323 " ... Noah to His people.. " 2331 another generation just after Noah.. That also male messenger.. Verify 2338.... Then another generation.. 2342... Then God sent messengers on succession for generation after generation.. For all those generation God sent messenger/s .. They also males 2344 verify.. Till this stage no Messenger's name is called as messenger (ex. Noah, Messenger of Allah).. Nothing specific... Then 2345 -46 mentions the name of Musa and harun... But not mentioned with their names as messengers...
Then lastly IN 2350 mentions ibn Maryam his mother a sign...
Till the verse 2351 NO NAME IS JOINED WITH AS A MESSENGER...
But QURAN God orders us to explore compare... If we explore the names of NOAH MUSA HARUN we clearly know they were messengers of Allah in other verses of Quran and they were males. As well ibn Maryam.. We know who He is.. He is Isa and He is also was a messenger in Quran others verses... So those four named ones and those unnamed innumerate messengers were males as verses indicate.. Incontrovertible...
Now One more name mentioned.. It is Maryam... Can we find Maryam in any other part of Quran designated as A messenger.. No such Verse... It's the habit of God with intention mostly to say Isa as Son of Maryam... We don't normally see any other Messenger being called in this manner, as if they don't have mothers... Reason you all know.. Coz they both are a Sign of God and reiterate saying son of Mary to negate the practice of people calling Isa a God of Trinity etc...
Claiming Maryam as Messenger in this verse is such matter which no one can ever prove with strong support...Bring any support pls.. We are ready to prove it wrong with mere quran
Logic I wrote this for you... Pls prove with substantial undeniable evidences from QURAN and also answer negating all comments presented in this topic...
God bless you...BTW @ Jaguary.. What is the meaning of Amen when you said..
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Peace Imran.
Here is the first thing we need to establish
What is the word for the plural of a mixture of male and female messengers in Arabic?
If you know give me the word , we will then continue with the subject and context of the messengers of surah 23.
GOD bless you.
Peacepeace Good logic,
we dnt need to continue dnt worry about it we know you are stumped. not on this occassion but also history of past is there infront of everybody. how many times u stumped.
i m not rude just wana let you know busy these days and have not much time to explain you like kids about WHAT i m ASKING, its difficult to explain somebody when he pretends not to understand whats going on. ( just wana save my time and yours)
again giving you hint your claim started with 2351 and u refferring it to mary and jesus there must be dual noun ? if its not then the position of ur claim is voodoo
you are asking me like i m telling you to find a transgender NOUN ? did i really asked/claimed/reflect on this tranny pronoun? USE magnifier and find DUAL in my last posts. just wana show people how careless you are while reading posts lmaoo rotfl
GOD BLESS YOU
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Peace Imran.
Do you know the word in Arabic for mixed Messengers (male in female) in Arabic?
We can proceed with the rest. Please stay on this important point first.
Thank you.
GOD bless you.
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Peace Imran.
Also you are wrong here, quote
again giving you hint your claim started with 2351 and u refferring it to mary and jesus there must be dual noun ? if its not then the position of ur claim isI am referring it to all the messengers mentioned in surah 23 starting at 2323...Noah...etc, including 2350.
And it is me who is not reading your posts properly?
GOD bless you.
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Peace Soitto?.
This is in response to your long thread? Don?t get surrender to things before verification? your enthusiasm makes me to sense you have agreed to this article completely or to major part of it?
I am not someone who is born as native to any kind of Arabs? I never learned Arabic till my completion of College.. it doesn?t mean I went to learn Arabic but self learned it with the mere usage of using the quran.. not to know what Egiptian style of Arabic or Lebanese, etc..but for guidance ? I don?t get when arabs speak save here and there.. but I get when quran is recited coz I am familiar with quranic set of words.Honestly thorough research on the thread I can completely debunk this man?s / woman?s claim?But unfortunately No time..and not necessary either.. But I wont leave without giving you a simple question?You research Soitto..
According to the thread, (Ibn) is not Son.. Right..that?s what I get from the explanation? so for example in verse 2350
?And We made the SON(Ibn) of Mary and HIS mother a sign and sheltered them within a high ground having level and flowing water.?Okay.. if Ibn is not Son here in this verse let?s replace as per the option given in the thread with ?CONSTITUION?.. lets replace the full verse..
?And We made the CONSTITUTION(ibn) of Mary and HIS MOTHER a sign and sheltered THEM (Wa?aawainaHUMA-dual) within a high ground having level and flowing water.?May I know what is HIS MOTHER in this verse in relation with constitution..? And dual form of THEM? And High Ground and flowing water?? Pls answer this basic before any one go deep into this thread on a research..
God guide us...Salam jkhan,
Why not u translate 5030 in this way -
5030
Wa - And
ja'alna- Our allowance of
-ab na ? Constitution of
Maryama - Mariam
wa - and
ummahooo ? its source (are)
aayatann ? a signThanks
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Peace... Soitto..
Why 5030 .. What happened to my last verse.. Translate it in your way pls.. .... I can't change quran verses as per your taste... I don't see anything what you talking about in 5030.... I don't have time for foolishness In you.. Sorry to say in that way...But for the benefit of all I present briefly to quiet people like you who twist the verses of Quran to blind others.....
With below three verses I can describe it in a way that you will never be able to pose a question again if you are a believer... But I won't.. You translate and let the people understand the three verses... Then I will explain in sha Allah how insane to twist the Verses of God... Untouchable... Remember it..
5116 "And when God said, 'O Jesus son of Mary, didst thou say unto men, "Take me and my mother as gods, apart from God"?' He said, 'To Thee be glory! It is not mine to say what I have no right to. If I indeed said it, Thou knowest it, knowing what is within my soul, and I know not what is within Thy soul; Thou knowest the things unseen."
517 "They are unbelievers who say, 'God is the Messiah, Mary's son.' Say 'Who then shall overrule God in any way if He desires to destroy the Messiah, Mary's son, and his mother, and all those who are on earth?' For to God belongs the kingdom of the heavens and of the earth, and all that is between them, creating what He will. God is powerful over everything."
352 "And when Jesus perceived their unbelief, he said, 'Who will be my helpers unto God?' The Apostles said, 'We will be helpers of God; we believe in God; witness thou our submission."
God guide you from hell fire.. And bless you
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Salam jkhan,
Why not u translate 5030 in this way -
5030
Wa - And
ja'alna- Our allowance of
-ab na ? Constitution of
Maryama - Mariam
wa - and
ummahooo ? its source (are)
aayatann ? a signThanks
Sorry, Verse number will be 2350 (not 5030, written so as typo mistake)
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Peace Bygane.
In 2351 GOD is carrying on talking about the Rusul-Messengers- Ya Ayuha Rusul, O you messengers that were the subject since 2323.
If you carry on with the context you will see the past ,for example 2353 uses the past tense -Fatakattau Amrahoom Baynahoom- is the past tense.GOD bless you.
Peace.Salam,
Other characters such as mala'o and kuffar were also mentioned in between the verses but they were not messengers of Allah, equally Maryam was mentioned as an ayat not a messenger. Therefore <a href="http//tanzil.net/#2351">2351</a> is addressing messengers of Allah only, not all those mentioned from 2323 to 2350 verses
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Peace Bygane .
Thank you for your reply.
Of course 2351 is only addressing Messengers . Did I say differently?
GOD bless you.
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Peace Bygane.
My post was an answer to this quote from you
Other characters such as mala'o and kuffar were also mentioned in between the verses but they were not messengers of Allah,You say Meriem was only an aya but so was her son. Do you think he not was addressed in 2351 as well?
GOD bless you.
Peace