Sex IS for PLEASURE
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Peace be upon you Lote Tree,
I have heard people say that the primary use of sex is REPRODUCTION
If you would be more scientific in your approach and not emotional (pleasure), you would see that it is the PRIMARY purpose. Why else would semen come out the penis at the end?
Kyle dear chap read my writing carefully. The word "Anti-Darwinian" is a such give away isn't it to the science of it all wink We are living in a Anti-Darwinian World chap where Darwinian Reproductive Urge is no longer in control but we are. In this world primary use of SEX is for PLEASURE. REPRODUCTION has become secondary and even then a matter of choice.
Pleasure accompanies both cases, but realize that that which gives you pleasure is capable of enslaving you (drugs, money, sex, junk food, all addictions)
Addictions have a complex pathways and is not reducible to a single cause. We human beings can easily get addicted to many bizzare things like train spotting or counting lamposts on sundays! Some even become obsessive about measuring temperature outside with a thermometer wink
Just kiddin -)Anything excess is bad chap. You dont have to tell me that. That is why many wise people of the past like Socrates, Confucious, Buddah etc have chosen the middle ground, avoiding either extremes of self-mortification and indulgence.
Regards,
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Peace "LT" and all,
Sex was always for pleasure primarily, as far as humans are concerned. When Adam and Eve were i heaven there was no reproduction. That is meant to be here on earth only. GOD Bless!Thats a good one Johny from Scritpure point of view wink
Regards,
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Peace
These are aids Sawtooth. They make the experience worthwhile so that people can reproduce. Sex is pleasurable. If sex were not pleasurable then would people do it? Would people have to adopt the means of other species, such as a mating season?
JoeSex is very pleasurable for humans. That is why we don't have mating seasons -)
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Peace Nabi,
But women do it, dont they?
Sex is not childbirth. They do it because the baby must eventually leave the womb. I do not understand your point here.
My point was even if sex wasnt this pleasurable and was meant only for conception, couples who want kids might still do it for the sake of procreation, just like women give birth even though its not physically pleasurable for them(infact painful in this case).
Peace!
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Peace be upon you Peaceful Muslim,
Rnt we talking of ordinary human beings anymore? I wasnt referring to monks or saints but ordinary people.
So that person was a super hero? I didn't see the usual flowing cape, sorry
Monks/ saints spend all their life meditating to reach where they reach.
Getting back to my point, there are people who have learned how to meditate and hav had pain free child birth. If you think you must spend your whole life to learn how to meditate, there is nothing I can say to convince you, you must try it yourself.
Now would u say an ordinary human being can emulate this act?
An ordinary human did perform that act. You can do anything if you train properly.
This is where I say u r living in ideologies and not being realistic.
OK.
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A huge head comes out of the vagina, for God's sake.
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And some cases vagina tears like a sheet of paper scared
And the blood oh please don't tell me about the blood scaredRegards,
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Peace be upon you Enquirer,
IF1
'just beceause you dont know about it doesnt make it unreal.'Of all the people i didnt think i would hear this off you
Why? What did I say?
How can peaceful-muslim take this as knowledge without verification
Peaceful Muslim cant take it as knowledge without verification, so I provided the link to start the investigation, complete with observable pictures. If that is not enough, then I can give Peaceful Muslim information about the workshops on pain free child birth, perhaps peaceful muslim can speak to one of them.
Just because you did not personally witness muhammed doesnt make him untrue
As I have said a billion times, one cannot prove his exsistence or his non existence. We are not to go ater that which we have no knowledge. Please pay closer attention before claiming a contradiction.
idol-free you are human after all You even seemed a bit emotional in your post.
Dont worry im just being light-hearted. But there is some truth in my commentsYes I am subject to the same test as all humans, even the Monk who you claim to be something else. However, I havent gotten emotional regarding this topic, it is very easy topic. You dont see me using 100 emoticons D
But Yes, I do get emotional, I am still workin at it, but your assesment here is incorrect.
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Peace Idolfree1,
Rnt we talking of ordinary human beings anymore? I wasnt referring to monks or saints but ordinary people.
So that person was a super hero? I didn't see the usual flowing cape, sorry
U did mention he was a buddhist monk, didnt u?
Do u realise what kind of training a person undergoes to become a monk and what kind of conditions he diciplines himself in? This is their life 24*7.Monks/ saints spend all their life meditating to reach where they reach.
Getting back to my point, there are people who have learned how to meditate and hav had pain free child birth. If you think you must spend your whole life to learn how to meditate, there is nothing I can say to convince you, you must try it yourself.
Like I said meditation and being calm can ease child birth a bit but wont make it pain free. The uterine contractions by themselves are very painful. And then the baby coming out through a narrow vagina.
And I did not say one must spend their whole life to learn how to meditate but yes, to reach the level of enlightment that monks do, to attain the spiritual powers they do.. it takes a lot of commitment, disciplining, focus, devotion and time to it.
Now would u say an ordinary human being can emulate this act?
An ordinary human did perform that act. You can do anything if you train properly.
There is a difference.
A monk performed that act. And they undergo far more training and disciplining which cannot be compared to the meditation an ordinary human being practises for an average of 20-40 mins a day.Peace!
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Peace idol-free and all. If you want re-read some of your recent posts to me and others. Please understand the 'subjectivity' of your posts.(subjectivity is fine,but at least admit you are doing it) Just because you cannot prove the existense or non-existense of muhammed doesnt make him non-existant,thus your theory is un-verified and/or subjective.(and i dont know if you would class your unsureness of his existance as verified knowledge or a fact) .Why dont you say i dont have enough knowledge to make a judgement or i dont know. If i have mis-understood any of your statements i do apologise.
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Peace
A monk performed that act. And they undergo far more training and disciplining which cannot be compared to the meditation an ordinary human being practises for an average of 20-40 mins a day.
I disagree with the idea you are presenting. You are speaking of an Eastern system where the yoga technique differs from the yoga technique of the West which is based upon the Qabalah. The method of the West is adpoted to the Psychic constitution of its people who are not able to live under the Eastern conditions to which you are referring.
"He that loses his life shall find it." - Western axiom which Christians should be familiar with.
Joe
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Peace
These are aids Sawtooth. They make the experience worthwhile so that people can reproduce. Sex is pleasurable. If sex were not pleasurable then would people do it? Would people have to adopt the means of other species, such as a mating season?
Joe
then explain why so many women do NOT orgasm everytime..... Is that need for it to end in orgasm only go for the men? I mean women can have them, but they sertainly do not experience it everytime....Yet I here tell it can still be enjoyable anyway. Still... it seems to take that special experience for a woman to go full on
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Peace
then explain why so many women do NOT orgasm everytime
I believe I mentioned before that there are people who do not know how to have sex right. Certainly it is not limited to ignorance, other factors such as abuse, etc can lead to a lack of orgasm.
Is that need for it to end in orgasm only go for the men?
I do not follow. Please restate.
I mean women can have them
Sure they can.
but they sertainly do not experience it everytime
Patriarchy is sometimes deeper than one thinks.
Yet I here tell it can still be enjoyable anyway.
Of course. I never said it was not. I'm a missing something here or are you people not reading and making weird assumptions.
Still... it seems to take that special experience for a woman to go full on
For men as well. It's just that sex is usually more in our favor.
Joe
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sex may be more in man's favor, but i believe there is more than just "Calgon" to the ladies' long shower.
Actually I am just being tounge in cheek here. I mean we are talking about sex and peasure (generally i would hope they go hand in hand) so I am having a bit of fun
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Hello LoteTree,
In this world primary use of SEX is for PLEASURE. REPRODUCTION has become secondary and even then a matter of choice.
Yes, I fully support the notion that in our generation, the primary purpose of sex is pleasure (more so with the invention of contraceptives and abortion) and secondary, conception with choice (mainly due to economic effects). The concept of "pleasurable sex" as in technology and culture, has certainly influenced and advanced in younger generation as well throughout the world. What say you?
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Peace Nabi,
A monk performed that act. And they undergo far more training and disciplining which cannot be compared to the meditation an ordinary human being practises for an average of 20-40 mins a day.
I disagree with the idea you are presenting. You are speaking of an Eastern system where the yoga technique differs from the yoga technique of the West which is based upon the Qabalah. The method of the West is adpoted to the Psychic constitution of its people who are not able to live under the Eastern conditions to which you are referring.
"He that loses his life shall find it." - Western axiom which Christians should be familiar with.
What are u talking of? Ur post seems quite unrelated to what I am talking about here. ?
I am not talking of eastern or western meditation.The example given to me was that of a buddhist monk to which I was responding. Even in the eastern world, an ordinary human being cant sit calm, pain free, through fire.
What are u saying btw? That every ordinary human being of the west can sit through fire like that without intensive training and disciplining?
Peace!
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Hello chaps and chapesses,
If all women have to be a monk to have painless childbirth then human species would have died out wink -)
But modern medicine can give a women a painless birth these days quite easily. So need for a women to be a monk to have a painless childbirth and meditation in childbirth for most women is not practical so please let it go.
Regards,
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Hello LoteTree,
In this world primary use of SEX is for PLEASURE. REPRODUCTION has become secondary and even then a matter of choice.
Yes, I fully support the notion that in our generation, the primary purpose of sex is pleasure (more so with the invention of contraceptives and abortion) and secondary, conception with choice (mainly due to economic effects). The concept of "pleasurable sex" as in technology and culture, has certainly influenced and advanced in younger generation as well throughout the world. What say you?
Danish, can you elaborate?
Regards,