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    Leoxyz
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    confused

    yuck yuck yuck

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      warner
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      You want to say that only the Holy Prophet was ordered by Allah to behave well to his parents not other muslims?
      It means this order is not for other muslims because here "singular present pronouns " are used (as per your impression).
      Am I right to understand you ?

      Peace Leo

      The Messenger was asked to follow what was revealed to him and we are to follow the Messenger. By following the Messenger we will be following the revelation from God. So it is not only him who has to treat his parents well.

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        unknownuser
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        Aya4615 clearly illustrates the meaning of 1723 that this address is to all human beings.
        Have you pondered upon the verses 2170, 4135, 923-24, 1187, 185, etc.and 4324 somehow displaying mischieviousness.

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          Leoxyz
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          Peace Leo

          The Messenger was asked to follow what was revealed to him and we are to follow the Messenger. By following the Messenger we will be following the revelation from God. So it is not only him who has to treat his parents well.

          Thank you very much .So you agree we have to "Follow the Messenger"
          bravo bravo bravo sun
          Agreed this is the Quranic message that we have to follow the "Prophet PBUH.

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            Leoxyz
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            Have you pondered upon the verses 2170, 4135, 923-24, 1187, 185, etc.and 4324 somehow displaying mischieviousness.

            Dear
            Instead of Number reference why don't you put the Aya on the post as I do so that every one is benefitted.

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              unknownuser
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              Dear
              Instead of Number reference why don't you put the Aya on the post as I do so that every one is benefitted.
              Dear, I hate to sweat. If the question involved one or two verses, then it wouldn't be a problem. There are too many verses involved to make a lengthy post unless necessary. I'd suggest you search and collect all verses pertaining to "parents" and see if you can make any heads and tails of it. Besides, it will give you a chance to actually read the "Great Reading".

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                Leoxyz
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                Dear, I hate to sweat. If the question involved one or two verses, then it wouldn't be a problem. There are too many verses involved to make a lengthy post unless necessary. I'd suggest you search and collect all verses pertaining to "parents" and see if you can make any heads and tails of it. Besides, it will give you a chance to actually read the "Great Reading".

                yes research is very difficult for "Quranists".
                They hide the verses arabic text so that they can extract the meaning of their liking and people should believe blindly.
                Sorry I do not follow this style .I believe in Facts not on hearsay.

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                  hlatif
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                  Salaam all,

                  Here is the Aya and the showing of the singular and plural yous

                  1723 Thy (singular) Lord hath decreed, that ye (plural) worship none save Him, and (that ye (plural) show) kindness to parents. If one of them or both of them to attain old age with thee, say (singular) not "Fie" unto them nor repulse (singular) them, but speak (singular) unto them a gracious word.

                  The first singular addresses the messenger.

                  The plurals that came just after address all.

                  The second singulars address the generic human because it came after the plural. Why? because the plural set the stage that the addressing is to all and not only the messenger. Why did it address the singular at the end? because it makes for a stronger address as in talking to each one of us directly.

                  Take care all.

                  Hussein

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                    unknownuser
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                    I believe in Facts not on hearsay.

                    You believe the voices in your head ? the whispers, the whispers? >D

                    http//www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Loge/1200/failure2.wav

                    Hadith are facts? LOL

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                      Leoxyz
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                      You believe the voices in your head ? the whispers, the whispers? >D

                      http//www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Loge/1200/failure2.wav

                      Hadith are facts? LOL

                      I believe in Quran and My Quran oders for "I3aat ur Rasool".
                      You might be having some tampered version of Quran from a Quranist.

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                        SatanHatesMe
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                        yes research is very difficult for "Quranists".
                        They hide the verses arabic text so that they can extract the meaning of their liking and people should believe blindly.Sorry I do not follow this style .I believe in Facts not on hearsay.

                        Say it again Leoxyz!!!
                        Yet GOD NEVER prohibit verifiable information!!!

                        1736
                        You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them.

                        There is no harm seek history, past narrations, science, mathematics, etc for information.

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                          Leoxyz
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                          Say it again Leoxyz!!!
                          Yet GOD NEVER prohibit verifiable information!!!

                          1736
                          You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them.

                          There is no harm seek history, past narrations, science, mathematics, etc for information.

                          You go through posts and verify how many of them contain arabic text of Quran .
                          They either give
                          -Reference
                          -Transliteration
                          -Translation (tampered usually)
                          They hide actual text .Why ?

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                            warner
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                            Say it again Leoxyz!!!
                            Yet GOD NEVER prohibit verifiable information!!!

                            1736
                            You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them.

                            There is no harm seek history, past narrations, science, mathematics, etc for information.

                            Salaam Brother

                            But the history and the narrations these guys so stoically adhere to is completely devoid of any mathematics or science. Maybe hadeeth guys can invent their own math code to verify hadeeth.

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                              unknownuser
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                              You go through posts and verify how many of them contain arabic text of Quran .
                              They either give
                              -Reference
                              -Transliteration
                              -Translation (tampered usually)
                              They hide actual text .Why ?

                              You go through posts and verify how many of them are English, and more importantly, how many of them are on the "internet", an international network now used by civillians to spread information, originally invented by the Kuffar West while Holy Blessed Muslims (PBUH) were pre-occupied with the importance of beard trimmings and the "creationism" debate (as in whether the Quran was created or not).

                              As long as there is a reference to the Quranic verses, there is absolutely no justification for your own laziness.

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                                Leoxyz
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                                As long as there is a reference to the Quranic verses, there is absolutely no justification for your own laziness.

                                I agree
                                The quranic verses should be copy pasted in the post.People who do not do this ,in fact are showing laziness.
                                Please my dear friend.
                                Why do you bring traditionalists in? I am also against them.
                                I have not been to understand ,I do not mention hadeeths,you people drag them in.Have I ever supported any traditionalist?
                                Please in future be nice to me by not mentioning them.
                                I dislike any person who tries to
                                -Tamper the Quran
                                -Tamper the teachings of the Holy Prophet
                                So simple.

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                                  unknownuser
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                                  I agree
                                  The quranic verses should be copy pasted in the post.People who do not do this ,in fact are showing laziness.
                                  Please my dear friend.
                                  Why do you bring traditionalists in? I am also against them.
                                  I have not been to understand ,I do not mention hadeeths,you people drag them in.Have I ever supported any traditionalist?
                                  Please in future be nice to me by not mentioning them.
                                  I dislike any person who tries to
                                  -Tamper the Quran
                                  -Tamper the teachings of the Holy Prophet
                                  So simple.

                                  Yes, clearly so. As for the verses, a lot of the time the entire post is riddled with references, and it would take far, far more time to post each reference than for the reader to simply open their Quran to the page and read. I wonder if you ask for this on IRC channels

                                  Why do you bring traditionalists in? I am also against them.

                                  Dear, I have never brought in traditionalists. I have only pointed out that Holy Blessed Muslims (RA) have spent more time in the 9th century than in the 21st. And people say time travel is impossible.

                                  I dislike any person who tries to
                                  -Tamper the Quran
                                  -Tamper the teachings of the Holy Prophet

                                  I also go further and dislike

                                  • Anyone who fails to acknowledge their mistakes and causes diversionary arguments
                                  • Any hypocrite who asks others for reference but does not bring his own
                                  • Anyone who refers to a human being as "Holy"

                                  So simple.

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                                    Leoxyz
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                                    • Anyone who refers to a human being as "Holy"

                                    So simple.

                                    So the word "Holy" in the "Holy prophet" phrase stings you.
                                    Is it really so painful.? I am sorry I did not know.
                                    But what can I do .At least He is our Holy Prophet.
                                    Can you show me any Prohibition of using word Holy in the Holy Quran?? Go for another tampering.
                                    So any talk about the Holy Prophet must be very painful for you.
                                    Do you need some doctor if problem is sever ?

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                                      So the word "Holy" in the "Holy prophet" phrase stings you.
                                      Is it really so painful.? I am sorry I did not know.
                                      But what can I do .At least He is our Holy Prophet.
                                      Can you show me any Prohibition of using word Holy in the Holy Quran?? Go for another tampering.
                                      So any talk about the Holy Prophet must be very painful for you.
                                      Do you need some doctor if problem is sever ?

                                      I advise you to open up an English dictionary and find "holy" in it. You may be surprised...

                                      Please remember that Jesus is the "Holy Son of God" according to Nazarenes.

                                      So, I do not need a doctor, but you need to add a dictionary of English to that extensive shopping list.

                                      Also, there is no question of a "Holy Prophet" unless you are referring to Abraham.

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                                        Leoxyz
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                                        I advise you to open up an English dictionary and find "holy" in it. You may be surprised... )

                                        Please remember that Jesus is the "Holy Son of God" according to Nazarenes.

                                        So, I do not need a doctor, but you need to add a dictionary of English to that extensive shopping list.

                                        Also, there is no question of a "Holy Prophet" unless you are referring to Abraham.

                                        By the way ;
                                        Do you know the difference between
                                        -To teach a book
                                        -To give a book
                                        are as brainless as who do not know .

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                                          unknownuser
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                                          By the way ;
                                          Do you know the difference between
                                          -To teach a book
                                          -To give a book
                                          are as brainless as who do not know .

                                          I wasn't involved in that argument )

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