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How much Zakat do I pay using quran alone?

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    truthseeker11
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    Peace everyone,

    First of all I would like to welcome TheJoker to the forum welcome

    After reading some of TheJoker's posts I am becoming a fan handshake

    I agree that zakaat as used in the qur'aan nowhere means charity but means purification/betterment. Salaat, sadaqat, sawm etc. result in zakaat.

    As far as sadaqat/charity is concerned it is left up to the individual how much to give (keeping 1729 in mind) from the excess left after all expenses are deducted from the income.

    As far as ghanimtum is concerned I agree with AW that it is not anfaal/spoils of war. Ghanimtum is anything which is obtained without hard work and the proceeds obtained by the non participants of the war from anfaal are a subset of ghanimtum because they were obtained by the non participants without any hard work. Inheritance will be another type of ghanimtum. 20% of any material benefit of the ghanimtum type goes to the government established according to the qur'aanic law.

    That is my current understanding.

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      TheJoker
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      Thanks Truthseeker, I like reading your posts, also. I've been here before though. Hard to miss my M.O.

      You should post more. Peace.

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        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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        Can somebody give me their interpretation of 6141, because usually it is said that it talks about zaka, although that word is not even in that verse.

        Thanks

        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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          anthonywallace
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          6141 And He is the One Who initiated gardens; both trellised and untrellised; and palm trees, and plants, all with different taste; and olives and pomegranates, similar and not similar. Eat from its fruit when it blossoms and give its due on the day of harvest; and do not waste. He does not like the wasteful.

          On the day of harvest( profit), give the 20%. Those are dues/tax that must be paid. And whatever you give after that is charity. O0

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            No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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            6141 And He is the One Who initiated gardens; both trellised and untrellised; and palm trees, and plants, all with different taste; and olives and pomegranates, similar and not similar. Eat from its fruit when it blossoms and give its due on the day of harvest; and do not waste. He does not like the wasteful.

            On the day of harvest( profit), give the 20%. Those are dues/tax that must be paid. And whatever you give after that is charity. O0

            20% is for the spoils of war.

            I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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              anthonywallace
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              20% is for the spoils of war.

              Dude, havent you been paying attention? Or are you just trying to erase the above posts and continue back and forth? Or do you not believe in God and the Last Day and in what was revealed to His servant on the day of the criterion. Let me refresh your memory;

              1. The spoils of war are only for God and the messenger. ( 81) That means 100% of the spoils of war are for God and His messenger only.
              2. The spoils of war are not for all those mentioned in 841. Because 81 says they are only for God and His messenger. And that is what The God commands you to say if you are asked regarding such spoils.
              3. 20% of anything you profit shall go to those mentioned in 841. 841 does not say 20% of "the spoils of war" shall go to God, His messenger, relatives, orhans, ect...... That is you guys false interpretation or understanding of 841. Maybey because youll so stingy and dont believe in nothin. Except lies. But 841 clearly say 20% of "anything" you profit.
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                afridi220
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                20% is for the spoils of war.

                You are wrong 20% is for Anthony ;D

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                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                  Dude, havent you been paying attention? Or are you just trying to erase the above posts and continue back and forth? Or do you not believe in God and the Last Day and in what was revealed to His servant on the day of the criterion. Let me refresh your memory;

                  1. The spoils of war are only for God and the messenger. ( 81) That means 100% of the spoils of war are for God and His messenger only.
                  2. The spoils of war are not for all those mentioned in 841. Because 81 says they are only for God and His messenger. And that is what The God commands you to say if you are asked regarding such spoils.
                  3. 20% of anything you profit shall go to those mentioned in 841. 841 does not say 20% of "the spoils of war" shall go to God, His messenger, relatives, orhans, ect...... That is you guys false interpretation or understanding of 841. Maybey because youll so stingy and dont believe in nothin. Except lies. But 841 clearly say 20% of "anything" you profit.

                  Dude, havent you been reading the Quran?

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                  Spoils of WAR are for times of WAR not PEACE.

                  Peace

                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                    afridi220
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                    Dude, havent you been reading the Quran?

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                    Spoils of WAR are for times of WAR not PEACE.

                    Peace

                    Don?t you see he is still on war?

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                      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                      Don?t you see he is still on war?

                      !... &

                      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                        MUNZIR_ALI
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                        You are wrong 20% is for Anthony ;D

                        20% of internet space for Anthony! laugh

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                          Rev_John
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                          20% of internet space for Anthony! laugh

                          wow

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                            MUNZIR_ALI
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                            20% of internet space for Anthony! laugh

                            So he can spread his message! yay laugh

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                              Rev_John
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                              So he can spread his message! yay laugh

                              Do you think 20% is enough?

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                                MUNZIR_ALI
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                                Do you think 20% is enough?

                                no! We have to expand the space! yay laugh

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  no! We have to expand the space! yay laugh

                                  Do you think the internet is big enough for him?

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                                    MUNZIR_ALI
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                                    Do you think the internet is big enough for him?

                                    The space will probably be measured in light years!

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                                      Rev_John
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                                      The space will probably be measured in light years!

                                      rotfl I'm not sure the universe is big enough even though it is still expanding at close to the speed of light.

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                                        MUNZIR_ALI
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                                        rotfl I'm not sure the universe is big enough even though it is still expanding at close to the speed of light.

                                        that would be scary! &

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                                          hope4
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                                          Peace

                                          Im back. Give what you can and what you give to the poor (charity) will be rewarded by God in the life after death. Thats my opinion.

                                          God bless

                                          Hope

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