How much Zakat do I pay using quran alone?
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You are required to spend 20% ( tax) of anything you profit, if you believe in God and the last Day. Anything that you give after that is Zakat. Anything you speand after the 20% is "excess" or " more than what is required."
Zakat = more than what you are required to give. hypno
would you post the Quarnic verses which go with your saying.
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would you post the Quarnic verses which go with your saying.
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841 And know that anything you profit, one-fifth shall go to God and the messenger, and the relatives, and the orphans, and the poor, and the wayfarer. You will do this if you believe in God and in what We revealed to Our servant on the Day of the Criterion, the day the two armies clashed; and God is capable of all things.
2219 ........And they ask you how much they are to give, say ?The excess.? It is thus that God clarifies for you the revelations that you may think.
peace
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Peace
Why has nobody addressed the contention that zakaat does not equate to charity that was mentioned earlier in the thread?
Furthermore I don't even like to use the word charity for sadaqaat. My investigation has shown me that it could be more correctly represented by "the fulfilment of a right that is due", in other words "recognition of the truth that those in need have a right over you".
Imraan
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So according to your understanding the 20% includes the sadakat or nafaka or both.?
i am not sure of the meaning of the arabic word word which you translate it to in excess.Me dont know Arabic. But according to my understanding the 20% is obligaroy or reqiered, and anything you give after that is charity or voluntary. Am I making sence? peace
Its either that or the 20% is zakat or charity or the excess..ect... But I think not because the 20% is obligatory... And whatever yopu give after that is charity or zakat or whatever..... peace
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Peace
I pay 20% tax, around 10% national insurance, I am then charged 15% VAT on goods I buy and around 70% tax on fuel, oh and if this was not enough I pay council tax. Money goes to government. What do they do with it
- Pay benefits to people who have no work
- Provide housing for the poor
- Pay doctors/nurses and everyone else involved in the national health service
- Pay emergency services
- Provides social services to the elderly and children
and a whole lot more which I can not think of at the moment.
Does tax we pay count as Zakat? Specially as it helps towards feeding and housing the poor as well as meeting the needs of children who have been misfortunate in one way or another.
Peace
Hope
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Peace
I pay 20% tax, around 10% national insurance, I am then charged 15% VAT on goods I buy and around 70% tax on fuel, oh and if this was not enough I pay council tax. Money goes to government. What do they do with it
- Pay benefits to people who have no work
- Provide housing for the poor
- Pay doctors/nurses and everyone else involved in the national health service
- Pay emergency services
- Provides social services to the elderly and children
and a whole lot more which I can not think of at the moment.
Does tax we pay count as Zakat? Specially as it helps towards feeding and housing the poor as well as meeting the needs of children who have been misfortunate in one way or another.
Peace
Hope
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THAT'S A LOT OF TAXES THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY!!
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I dont think it counts as zakat, since it is a tax and money goes to other things as well. Not sure..but I am leaning more to "no".
6416 Therefore, be aware of God as much as you can, and listen, and obey, and give for charity for your own good. Whosoever is protected from his own hedonistic desires, then these are the successful ones.
Peace
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Sure, )
841 And know that anything you profit, one-fifth shall go to God and the messenger, and the relatives, and the orphans, and the poor, and the wayfarer. You will do this if you believe in God and in what We revealed to Our servant on the Day of the Criterion, the day the two armies clashed; and God is capable of all things.
peace
Salamun Alaikoem,
According to my judgement this verse is about the profit of the war and not daily labour.
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It is obligatory only on those who believe in God and the Last Day and in what was revealed to Gods servant on the Day of the Criterion, the day the two armies clashed; and God is capable of all things.
In my judement this verse is about the profit of " anything " you "gain."
If you dont believe then you dont have to do it. I cannot and wont force anyone to believe. But I will obey and teach Gods commands. It is only forced on those who believe.... hypno Yes, a forced portion of what you profit. hypno hypno hypno hypno
peace
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Peace every one,
Sure,
841 And know that anything you profit, one-fifth shall go to God and the messenger, and the relatives, and the orphans, and the poor, and the wayfarer. You will do this if you believe in God and in what We revealed to Our servant on the Day of the Criterion, the day the two armies clashed; and God is capable of all things.
This verse only talks about how to share the spoils of war(booty) but not Zakat in any way. The one-fifth ie 20% of the booty is to be allocated for those mentioned in the verse and only the remaining 80% should be shared among all soldiers who participated in the war. Every one who receives his/her share of the booty has to pay Zakat @ 10%(one tenth) on this income(gain/profit). It is also corroborated by the fact that prophet Abraham paid 10% on his share of the booty as mentioned in the Torah.
2219 ........And they ask you how much they are to give, say ?The excess.? It is thus that God clarifies for you the revelations that you may think.
peace
This verse speaks of how one can determine the amount of charity(sadaqah which is not obligatory unlike Zakat) and has no relevance to Zakat.
Yours truly,
K.Vivekanandan
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salaams and peace of Allah
here is a link to the submission site, which is saying it's 2.5%, because of 7024 - they say it is the only verse that refers to the percentage. It says that it is "Ma'luum" = Known. http//www.submission.org/ramadan/zakat.html
copied and pasted from submission.org...
"Whenever we receive "net income," the "known amount" of Zakat should be paid or set aside. (see 7024) This known amount as God calls it, is 2.5%. This is the ONLY "known amount" to the submitters (Muslims). This amount, 2.5% was passed down to us, generation after generation, like Salat, from the time of Abraham to our time. We must set aside 2.5% and give it to the specified recipients - the parents, relatives, orphans, the poor, and the traveling alien, in this order (2215). "so please can we discuss this and get to the bottom of it?
I understand sadaqa is the "excess" but if you are in a situation where you have more outgoings than income, how can we worl out what to give, when there is no excess? i have been making sandwiches to give to the poor, so i give food rather than money. does Zakat have to be a monetary donation or can it be food / clothes?
thanks and peace and salaams
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To whom is all that is in the heavens and Earth?
Peace every one,
This verse only talks about how to share the spoils of war(booty) but not Zakat in any way. The one-fifth ie 20% of the booty is to be allocated for those mentioned in the verse and only the remaining 80% should be shared among all soldiers who participated in the war. Every one who receives his/her share of the booty has to pay Zakat @ 10%(one tenth) on this income(gain/profit). It is also corroborated by the fact that prophet Abraham paid 10% on his share of the booty as mentioned in the Torah.
This verse speaks of how one can determine the amount of charity(sadaqah which is not obligatory unlike Zakat) and has no relevance to Zakat.
Yours truly,
K.Vivekanandan
Peace be upon you, how are you? I understand that 841 is not talking about zakat, but rather a tax, or dues that are obligatory weather one believes it to be only from war only or from anything you profit from war, labor, charity, or watever. How would we explain the fine/or jiza? And amount? There is no proof in quran that zakat is 10%.when you give more than what you are requred to give that is charity or zakat or whatever.... And that would be whatever you give out of that 80% leftover if not the whole 80%. While the first 20% of profits is a fine that will be spent willingly or unwillinly.
To my understanding it was 10% at first the time of Abraham them, now it has increased to 20% since the Day of the criterion. The day the two armys clashed. Peace bro. peace
salaams and peace of Allah
so please can we discuss this and get to the bottom of it?
I understand sadaqa is the "excess" but if you are in a situation where you have more outgoings than income, how can we worl out what to give, when there is no excess? i have been making sandwiches to give to the poor, so i give food rather than money. does Zakat have to be a monetary donation or can it be food / clothes?
thanks and peace and salaams
Do not waste excessively. If you havent profited and you stll want to give to the point of taking a loss, you can give a little but not excessively even thoe you are not required to give if you havent profited anything to my knowleadge.. There is no harm if you turn away to seek a mercy from your Lord. And those who waste excessivly are brothers to the devil. Zakt can be money, food, cloths,it could even be shelter, ect... peace
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Ch 8 and 20% is entirely about waging war, 10% and 2.5% is not in the book, no fixed amount. It?s left to each individual.
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Ch 8 and 20% is entirely about waging war, 10% and 2.5% is not in the book, no fixed amount. It?s left to each individual.
Peace,
Respectfully.Yes, exactly, totally agree with you and when i mention to the pagans, they immediately wanna kill me.
Jeez, these pagans need some prozac. And when i say some i mena a lot.Peace.
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This verse only talks about how to share the spoils of war(booty) but not Zakat in any way. The one-fifth ie 20% of the booty is to be allocated for those mentioned in the verse and only the remaining 80% should be shared among all soldiers who participated in the war. Every one who receives his/her share of the booty has to pay Zakat @ 10%(one tenth) on this income(gain/profit). It is also corroborated by the fact that prophet Abraham paid 10% on his share of the booty as mentioned in the Torah.
Show me the verse which says that Zakat is 10% in context.
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Peace all, no one can say that I am wrong. The spoils of war are only for God and His messenger. And not for the others. While 20% of "anything" you profit from war or whatever are for God and His messenger and the relatives, orphans, ect....according to my understanding of 81 and 841. 81 does not say that the spoils of war are for all those mentioned in 841.
Bring your proof, if you truthful. peace
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Peace all
Could somebody please show me from the quran how zakaat means any kind of payment by an individual or where it means charity?
Imraan