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I have been thinking about a few things lately. The first being, when God gave the jews the Torah, he must have know that it would be corrupted and yet He allowed it to be corrupted. Then God sent Jesus with the injeel and the injeel also got lost as some say as well as currupted. Then God sent Prophet Muhammed and promised to safe guard the Quran. But what we find is that God safeguared the quran but not islam. it seems God let Islam to be currupted like the other people of the book. So now, all the jews who follow the Torah are on the wrong path and all the Christians who follow the new testament are on the wrong path and all the muslims who live and breather on hadiths are also on the wrong path. Dont you wonder sometimes why God let this happen. Some people have said that the Torah is not currupteth centuryd but the injeel is currupted and i say to those people that you cannot say that the Torah is original because the stories of certaini events and people are quite differently in the Quran and Torah. Someone please help me Allah never gave the Torah to the Jews, but he gave it to the children of Israel, and that same Torah never been altered nor changed, also the injeel was given to Isa, and was added to the same BOOK, in one same book, and never been altered, together, the Torah and the injeel , are the book that you're reading now and you call the Quran the arabic race, never existed, it was invented in the 18th century, and spreaded through all the children of Israel, and became called ARABS, the Word Arabiyan in the Quran, means PERFECT , and doesn't speak of a race's language the Jews were never the children of Israel, read the Quran and you'll realise that he's speaking to them different than the children of Israel the children of Israel, now, Hate the children of Israel , without knowing it, they hate themselves and call themselves ARABS

Regardless of the circumstances, the beautiful thing is that we can always ask our merciful creator for help. Just ask ask and ask and there will be some way opening up... and usually it is a way that we didn't know existed. I call it "the unknown solution", or "unseen solution" because I have seen in my own life that our creator always has a solution to a problem up the sleeve that I didn't think of... and that is so great... it is usually better that the options or solutions I could think of. Salaam Zulf, bravo Very well said. I agree with you 100%. May Allah bless you and guide us to His true path pr mmKhan

SALAAM bro sun YES THATS WHAT I PRETEND TO SAY in Resume D SORRY FOR ANY MISCONCEPTION... sun O0 Maybe i jsut put words in wrong places. Religion=manmade DIN/SISTEM= CReator laws Any mistake just tell me again feel free D and thanks one more time.. peace handshake pr NOMAD AKA RASHID L?ANDALUSI No problem bro sun

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Seems like reform Jewish temples might be ok to find other monotheist friends too, other than a uu church which I'm wary of for some reason.

Okay I have a kind of eclectic religious background... So my family and I are Native Americans whose ancestors were converted to Catholicism. I have a very close large extended family and they are all very religious Catholics. I was baptized and went to church as a small child but not too much longer than that. My mother started getting in touch with our traditional beliefs as Native Americans and really quit associating with the church. I followed suit but at a really young age because I felt disgusted with the sexism I saw in the Catholic church and the abusive practices that occurred. Once I left the church (around 12) I started looking around for a replacement... so I asked, what did they believe in before Catholicism? That led me to Judaism and I studied that for a long time and actually became a staunch Zionist (Oh my ignorance, forgive me). After realizing the hypocrisy in the Zionist movement and the abuses that were occurring in Palestine I gave up on Judaism. Then I met a Muslim and learned about Islam and started to see numerous similar beliefs that were in Islam that were also traditional to my ancestors. I am still finding these connections today. It took me a long time to convert because so much of what is presented as Islamic is actually cultural and I took a lot of time to separate the two to actually see what Islam truly is. It is truly beautiful. One thing that kind of surprised me coming from a Catholic background was that (at least in my area) someone was always at the church and you could go there anytime, day or night if you needed anything. Well I thought it was the same for mosques... not at all. Around here they are only open on Fridays which is really a shame I think. As of right now only my two sisters know I am a Muslim and they are okay with it. I haven't told anyone else yet for two reasons 1) my large catholic family knows pretty much nothing about Islam and what they have said has all been negative, also my uncle is a priest eek 2)I'm afraid my mom will think that me being a Muslim will be like me being a Catholic and "a traitor". Its kind of hard to explain but I am slowing getting there... I kind of made it my goal this year to be "out" by Ramadan. Thanks to you all for sharing your stories...

I found this site last week and absolutely love it. It would help in trying to memorize. My favorite so far is is Yusef.

@Ruuube Thanks for your reminder. I have tried to discuss with Sunni Muslims about following the quran alone and I got pretty much negative reactions also. brickwall One was that I didn't "respect the prophet enough" and others treated me like a lost little child who will find the correct path soon. I try to respect the beliefs of others even if I don't agree with them and I hope others will treat me the same. Again Ruuube thanks for the reminder.

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Here is Farouk Peru responding to a traditionalist. Worth watching http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2gIVwGzB_A&feature=related

I think most people just inherit their religion from their family. Would be much better if everyone was to choose his religion at the age of 21. Or not choosing any or choose to join multiple or ALL religions... Salam / Peace

Zionism started as a movement to maintain Jewish identity in the wake of the assimilation threats of enlightenment Europe. The enlightenment made it hard for Jews to justify their Judaism since European enlightenment focused on the individual while Judaism focused on ethnicity. Correct... The Zionism's "Ethno centricity'" was the view of "Shaman's school" during Jesus time.. (They never seek convert, and tried very hard to forbid conversion of non-Jews) Yet basically Rabbanical Judaism laid out the foundation of "Organized Religion" as we know today.. The "Hillel school" (who actively converted anyone whether they're Jews or Non-Jews) find their 'reincarnation' in Christianism and Islamism. Somewhere in between it seems there were exchange of ideas/influences between Christians (Jesus follower) and Hillel's follower. And 600 years later, the same ideas were applied by the Islamist, most probably adopted from Christians and (Hillel's) Judaism. Nonetheless it was the "Rabbanical Judaism" (Shammai and Hillel and others) who invented Organized Religion. During the heyday of 'Sanhedrin' (100 years before Jesus was born). they built Synagogues on every villages, standardizing and formalizing the rites, formed up hierarchical structure of priests and rabbis and set up a regular prayer service in those village synagogues and also the same village synagogues is functioned as "Madrasa" (Place of learning, of mostly the Midrash (traditions) and Torah; the same terminology which also being adopted by Islamists until today)... This of course requires also the standardization of 'books to be compiled into canonical / official volume of scrolls' to be put inside the Synagogue.. Those ideas carries on by the future christians and islamists... In the gospel there are many occasions where Jesus visited those village synagogues and preach/teach/attend the service there.. Evidence Even now on this forum most people still think that there MUST be a standardized and formalized rites for praying! A thought which is totally strange and alien to those who were not exposed to 'organized religion'. Salam / Peace

Salam, Thank you for this informational video, I agree with everything you said, havent thought about the bodies in janna,I used to think we will be souls, but ofcourse we will have bodies if we are going to eat and drink... I have a question though. Dont you think Makka is one of the devils highquarters as well? It is ruled by the same people and honestly I can not see there any of the Quranic definitions fitting the description of masjid alharam in the Quran. peace!

Peace, Loxbox13. You are assuming way too much from recognizing some (coincidental) phonetic arrangements as familiar sounding syllables. There are only so many (repertoire) sounds that make up standard spoken language. That is why you find most of them common to most spoken languages. You recognize a series of sounds ("nar&quot in the word Anarchy and wrongly assume that anarchy has the root word Nar familiar to you from other language. The root word of the English word anarchy is Arch. The prefix an- (and sometimes a-) denotes meaning of without, absence of, not. Some examples of use of these prefixes are anaerobe, asexual, anorexia. Some examples of words with the same root word as in anarchy are monarchy, hierarchy, patriarch, archangel. If you will just take a look at some decent chart or charts of language groups development, you will see that the development of modern English came about quite remote from development of Semitic languages. John is one of the most common given names. It has numerous variants, such as Jon, Jonathan, Juan, Ian, Ivan, Jean, Gianni, Giovanni, Johann, and Yahya. It is because it is such a common name that "John Doe" is used as a staple reference to unknown (unidentified) actual persons. That name and similar variants are also used to indicate hypothetical persons or in substitution of true names to anonymize persons involved in sensitive matters. The only standard use of the name Johnson is as a proper name.

Fwiw I've found the translation to be a beautiful rendition in English, with only a few spots where he takes the traditional interpretation of a term or idea. I supplement that with the FM translation

Have you ever met or heard of any christian or jew who has become certain of the divinity of Quran after witnessing the "counting illness" of 19ers ? peace YES WE HAVE!

Shalom Aleikhem, Your point number 1 would be relatively better than point 2. Anyway, when it comes to studying hadith, this term is used to point out overwhelming evidence for a narration that is collected. Think about it, when you die, your family , friends and relatives, if all of them say that they all heard you playing piano and you are a musician, will it be totally unjustifiable for me to have faith in that ? I mean, thinking of you as a pianist ? However, if you think about the "science of hadith", it is far far away from "mutawatir" example that I gave above. Instead of many first hand witnesses all testifying the same thing, what we have is huge number of random people claiming that you are a pianist. And this is centuries after you and the witnesses die. What evidence do these people give me ? Nothing. So, it is more like a "legend". Not a mutawatir hadith. Under any circumstance, a muslim has nothing to worry about, since the word of God asked her/him to stay away from things beside Qur'an when it comes to /her/his deen. It would be stupid to go seek for such rulings from sources beside God, when God never demanded us to go look for such reports and follow them when it is He who has revealed a book fully detailed. To us He has given the book and we know that it is from God with the truth and we do not doubt. And we already know that the words are completed with truth and justice and there is no changing of it. (lol... just kinda paraphrased chapter 614-115 there P ) Peace --------------- Student of Allah

Salam A2Z, Thanks but NO Thanks nope I'm not here to prove anything or anybody wrong or right, I already had enough for mullaism and genuinely looking for answers to some of my doubts so that I could understand AlQuran in a better and more practical way and through which I could be a good Musmil/Momin and a follower of Allah's Deen pr Personally, I believe that we all should leave non-sense and illogical stuff out of our discussions and I request/suggest that together we all should use our vast knowledge, resources and energy to understand AlQuran as best as we could without getting into some cheap publicity and points scoring on our fellow Muslim or seeker. Peace ) I'm sorry if you are not feeling comfortable when I mentioned your name. I'll follow-up on the Forbidden Months related issue and take full responsibility of it.

And what do you think what this "Midyan" is? A location/city or Nation? SLM, What is MuDaYan !? Love&Peace for TruTruth in th? WiseWorld