General Issues / Questions

Peace, Peace Jaxal, . When a christian is completely devoted to his/her God ( i.e Jesus or Mary or the trinity etc... ) Mary is not God for Christians, and 'etc...' either. Jesus/the trinity yes. i think they do take marie as a god besides Allah the koran 5116 And when Allah saith O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? . Yes, you think that because of the verse. What can I say? I was indoctrinated into Chritianism/Catholicism for years. I left it, and I researched lately to see if there has been some change in the doctrine, that it wasn't. Christians don't take Mary as god, but as Jesus's mother.

Salaam, LT Well you if you go beyond the conventional then anything is possible! Some people will say sex gives them ulitmate happiness so sex can be their religion too? Hehe, did u forget about Osho Rajneesh? NoahRelegion is a hodge podge of silly stuff colaborated from all over the place. Its eclectic in its nature, and ALWAYS man made. However...spirituality is the direct connection between a man and his creator. Thus i view Quran not as a book of relegion, but rather a spiritual guide. By this definition, I fully agree.

Salaamun alaikum Wakas, 'mubiin' does not mean 'clarified' or 'distinct' (although stictly I said 'to make distinct'). mubiin means open/plain/clear/evident/manifest. This can be seen from its ~90 occurrences. The problem with this exchange is, we're talking PAST one another ). Let me actually build the conceptual map of both. That way we can clearly see.

as a whole and The Qur?an means the original Qur?an not any translation. And you have no reason to cover up any Ayat of the Qur?an. Also you should try to understand classic Arabic. I am curious Asim Iqbal - I take it you speak and write and understand Classical Arabic? If you do then can I ask you some question? Thanks. Regards,

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(Tho, Amanita is proper fun Embarassed and concidered the herb up here) Whoah there, that things a bit dangerous! Probably better off with something less toxic but just as hallucinogenic! Peace It's harmless when dried. the acid's that are toxic are destroyed by the drying process. Another option is to search for the holy grail.. http//www.egodeath.com/images/amanitaholygrailheinrich.jpg In the morning when the dew is still there, the water in the grail is red because all the psychoactive compounds are pulled out into the water without the toxic acids. Just drink from the grail and speak to God, as the ancient canaan/phoenecians said. The vikings called it the cup of odin. I havent been involved with any of this since i took Islam as my deen, but much of my spirituality today was founded when i was a heathen/shamanic viking, through the use of the personal relegious experience through shamanistic principles and herbs/fungi. I would say tho, that if anyone concider shamanism as part of their spirituality, be aware that it is a double edged sword. You really have to KNOW what youre doing, just thinking that you do is not good enough. As for smoking...this helps quit smoking, and the lung related problems smokers have after quitting Datura Stramonium http//psychedelia.dk/leksikon/sider/ent/natskygger/1.jpg I know it sounds whack, but smoke a small amount of the dried leaves, BUT FOR GODS SAKE DO NOT EAT IT!. It is altso used to help astma patients, who altso have to smoke the leaves. The native American shamans altso reccomend elephant ear (Kalanchoe beharensis)to quit smoking http//www.plantoftheweek.org/image/kalanchoe2.jpg Oh yeah, and the tobacco industry is the devil. Brother Joe pointd out why. they on purpose, but cancer provoking compounds in it. And of 100's of diffrent kinds of tobacco they insist on using the only one that is actually toxic on its own.

Peace Damon, Congratulations brother. --

WASWRWB lol rotfl You need a stage and a mic

SaLaM Shamsul does "neglected nothing" gives the same impression as "not leave anything". Atleast to me it does.

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SaLam idmkhizar That answers the question. We are BORN with the knowledge of right and wrong. So to say, we werent aware of it until we hit 40, is BS.

To add to this, remember an 'al-kafir' is a person who creates mischief on the earth. So it's not simply not believing, its an actual belief which is the diametrical opposite to the quranic system of belief. An indepth study of kufr will tell us that the Sunni conception of kufr is completely nothing to do with the Quran.

hhehehe i want a convincing argument that religion is man-made that is like demanding evidence that it isnt. Neither is truely possible the nature of the subject given. However. God who knows all things, creates all things, who is closer to us than our jagular vein, does not have the power to educate each and every one of us individually, allthough were told that NOTHING troubles God. This mighty omnipotent being would rather have a fallible human write a book, that will be corrupted in one way or another, if not the text itself, then its meaning, than rely on Gods own skill to controll all matter. Apparently the omni potent God, developed his power to protect his book along th way, because he really did a piss poor job with the taurath and the bible, but with the Quran he promised it was it. Give me a break. These books are good guidleines, they are universal in nature, and i DO belive that they are devinely inspired in the sense that the truths in there always where and always will be truths. Its all the other cack thats been put around it, that turns me off. All the stuff that called relegion. God gives each and everyone of us a change to become spiritual beings in direct contact with our creator, and not just that, but live with a feeling that we are indeed connected to the "mainframe". But sod spirituality we have a relegion!. And in our relegion you are alowed to wear funny hats, have ugly unhygeinic beards, and kiss pet rocks in arabia. Relegion is but an empty shell we are told represents sprituality through rituals. So people bow down, kiss something, touch another thing or whatever as part of their pet rituals, and then they talk to themself a lot. Because as long as they dont go before God with a trait heart wanting to know the truth, be it whatever it may show to be, npomatter how hurtfull, nomatter what...well then all you are going to hear is the voice inside your head. that constant chatter in the cranium, and the definition of that chatter is called. EGO. So who's your god then? .... i told my parents and they gave me the example of which came fisrt .. the egg or chicken and then they gave me the example of not being able to see air .. hehe Thats all good. But we get something confused here afaic. God is real. actually there is NOTHING but God, and what God wills. God is the first the end, the be all end all, the alfa and the omega, it is the nemesis of this world and its true "saviour". Relegion has little or nothing to do with this concept, and is based purely on the use of mushrooms, toxic toads, sexism, penis worship, vagina worship, menstruation cyclys worship (the ark of the covenant, im NOT kidding) sun, moon, star, meteorite and vulcanic spirit worship. And none if it has a damn thing to do with the way of God, nomatter whom claims so. Get real...look around you. God is not listening. Everybody pray, the christians, jews, muslims, and it only geTs worse by the minute for all of us. This tells me 1 of two things. All these people do is worship the wrong god (there is only one, so if you dont get it right....no reply) or they are talking to themself a damn lot, and its not helping. And thats relegion for you! the willingness to accept a truth you have no way of confirming, except for the whole concept of "feel good" based on what we like to hear.

In the USA? As the saying goes "put your house in order" -) Regards, For him to do that yhe would first need to put the U.S. in order, after all the U.S. is very friendly to Pakistan's dictator and I doubt a revolution could undergo there without some sort of U.S. intervention to repress it or backing a coup to overthrow the newly formed government as history as shown, the U.S. can't let freedom get in the way of its corporate interests D Yes, Pakistanis are crying out for MuckBurgers aren't they!?

And buzzor, some of the most beautiful painting have come from imagination. Wink And some of the most beautiful paintings have come from the source! wink wink

Salaam Jaxal and Sara, No I didn't wear niqab(face cover) but my younger sister has worn it before. But my hijjab was very long and thick!!!! I'm glad I found a way out of this, Al-Hamdulillah Peace Sis Majidah

Peace Nadia, Well government sites have been against marijuana since the 1930's, basically there are many medicinal uses that were established for marijuana long ago and even the Queen Victoria was prescribed to help her period pains. Plus there are Doctors that promote it, search 'Lester Grimspoon', either way there are different users, there are those who will use it recreationally and may abuse it and there are those that use it medicinally to relieve them of chronic pain from terminal illness or cancer treatment. Interesting concern about the smoke, although smoke seems to be 'obviously' dangerous, there is no clear cut evidence that 'marijuana smoke' is as harmful as tobacco smoke because marijuana smokers that only smoke marijuana have less cases but the heavy marijuana smokers get bronchial problems. Marijuana and tobacco smoke have different effects on the body and there toxicities are different, this makes a big difference to how harmful a drug is. One way that this has been avoided by many medicinal users is by using a vaporiser which vaporises the cannabinoids at a lower temperature than it would actually burn. I am a supporter of medicinal marijuana and also for the legalisation of marijuana especially when there are harder and more dangerous drugs legalised like Ketamin (if thats how it is spelt), and alcohol, and all the other harmful anti-depressants and depressants that harm you. When marijuana has been compared with over the counter drugs, it toxicity is one of the lowest and it is also more effective. There have been no fatal cases of overdoses, whereas there are many legal drugs which are abused and kill many people, but this one has hardly ever killed an individual directly in this manner. I am also for the legalisation of all other drugs because they cause more problems when prohibited. But in the case of marijuana I think many people can benefit, especially the ones with chronic conditions. Alot of people seem to judge a drug on its affects, if you think the effects of marijuana are bad then maybe you don't know about prescribes Lithium and all these other toxic drugs that are legal but harmful. Nural

SaLaM It looks like mquran and lotetree are married, constantly arguing! Have I missed something while I have been off the forum? LMAOOOO rotfl

SaLaM Albion I dont need luck to debate with any ex-muslim or christian. Ive done it, and ive shut them all up. As i said, im not really proud of this behaviour. Its funny about the "painful memroy". Ive known convert who have cried their eyes out. I guess thats just the way it is. As for the men who stoned this woman, they are not muslims.

Salaam It is exactly what Bush and co wants. They enjoy all disasters and make profits on them no wonder why they even creates disasters to win profits. I hope more people will open up their eyes for this evil elite who control the world. Don't ever trust politicians! they are your enemy. Peace Sis Majidah