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  • What do you people think about the movement - TABLIGH

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    peace be upon all, Tabligh is one of the most active movement now. As far as I know, they are promoting the traditional system, mostly sunnah and such. Most muslims are now turning towards them as most academically qualified peoples are involved in it. So what do you people think about this movement and how are they helping the muslim world..?? Peace
  • Question:Is this what a Quran Only nation would be?

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    Asalamu alaikum,I was just curious..After reading many of the various views in this forum,it seems to me that ,a God alone society would basically be like the modern day United Snakes..Because a good majority of people in here,seem to think that nearly everything is halal and almost nothing is haraam..America,actually,was more conservative in its early beginnings,than what the ideal nation would be for some of you,or at least it seems that way,I mean,let me remind you,that,America was indeed ,I guess you could call it a "morality based nation' to an extent,however,thanks to democracy ,as time has gone by and the morals and values of the people have eroded,so has the quality of this nation,it is a bit of a modern day "sodom and gomoraah',for today nearly every thing is halal and is based on the whims of the people .Isnt this basically what many of you want..A full democracy with no real sensorship?--Would the "modesty rule ' be enforced or would we leave it up to personal choice and have half naked women walking throughout the streets,would drinking be ideally banned or would there be bars through out the cities?If open homosexuality were to be tolerated by such a nation,there would then be no-doubt predominantly gay bars and dance halls in existence ..Im not seeing any real difference between what a so-called "God alone nation' would be and America..In order to make it a real God alone nation it seems that there would have to be ,I guess you can call it a "watered down version" version of the sharia lawWhat are you thoughts about this?..Salaams
  • Quistion , How do you face a physical place allways????

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    Salaam to everyone, 2149 And from whereever you go out , you shall set yourself towards the restricted temple....... 2150 And whereever you go out , you shall set yourself toward the restricted temple .And whereever you may be you shall set yourself towards it.... what do these ayte say.can a person do likewise for a physical temple or is there more to this.?
  • ARTICLE /MAKES SOME DISTURBING CLAIMS

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    Asalau alaikum,Lol I aws just browsing the internet,and came across an article written this european kafr,and at the end he concludesQUOTE"Through serious and genuine scientific enquiry, the validity of the Hadith and Sira of Islamic tradition has been eliminated. It can be shown that neither Mecca nor Badr existed at the time, and thus all the stories of Muhammed?s prophetship and battle victories are just so much invention. It can be demonstrated, indeed, that there never was such a man at all. By systematically translating the Qur?an. even the meaning of the name, Islam, can be shown to have been corrupted. and the historical and theological background that made the Qur?an possible demonstrated. The importance of the Jewish community in this development has set researchers on tracing the path to the true identity of the Quranic author, a man who was clearly of exceptional talent, energy and insight. In fact, Br. Bruno?s work is spurring research which is showing that Islam is a fact, because the Islam of the Qur?an is a fact; but it is now becoming increasingly evident that the Islam of today is an illusion in the sense that all that it truly holds in common with the outstanding genius of the Quranic author is the name of the religion and a mutilated understanding of his powerful book. This is the contradiction become the paradox mentioned at the beginning of this article. END QUORE...Hmmmmm..Wanna read it? http//www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/3543/Islamgn.htm
  • Arabic Fonts

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    Does anyone know where to get a good Arabic font from? I am looking not for one to use on Arabic Windows but a truetype font which has the QWERTY keyboard letters corresponding to an Arabic letter. I really would like a simple, uncalligraphic font through, preferably that does the auto join-up as well. Can anyone tell me where to get some for free or can anyone send some to me to my email? Thanks.
  • SAYING YOU ARE MUSLIM IS MEANINGLESS UNLESS YOU FIRST SAY...

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    Salaamun TO ALL It occurs to since I started the "Who Here Are Allah/Qur-an only People" that, just saying one is Muslim, is increasingly becoming more and more meaningless today, unless, one first says...I am an Allah and Qur-an only and alone Muslim. Why? because many groups say they are Muslim, however, what they believe in and practice cannot be proven via Al-Qur-an. For examples--The Nation of Islam and the majority of the so-called Muslim world. What do you think?
  • CRUELTY TO ANIMALS

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    In my country, dogs are a delicacy. They kill them by beating them to death on the head, and tied up with wires so tightly that they bleed. My heart bleeds when is see somebody being cruel to an animal. I can't find anything about this in the Quran. Is there? Salam and thanks.
  • My 100th post!

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    Excited about my 100th post. I learnt a lot about Islam and about the forum's members. Some were good. Some were disheartening. The most disheartening thing I found was name calling, calling others 'liars', 'fags' and what not. Also includes this bizzare attitude of hatred towards non-muslims. Pls read Quran and learn how you are supposed to treat non-believers.
  • The Messenger's Job: Re-cap

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    Salams, This message is mainly directed to Layth Awhile ago I started a thread called "The Messenger's job Proclaim AND Explain?" This is what I wrote 1644 (We sent them) with Clear Signs and Books of dark prophecies; and We have sent down unto thee (also) the Message; that thou mayest explain clearly to men what is sent for them, and that they may give thought. The word used in the verse is 'tubayyin', meaning to explain/make clear. It is not the same as deliver/proclaim (balagh). It goes beyond that level. Does this verse not indicate that part of the Messenger's job was to also EXPLAIN the Book? Does this not 'authorise' going to sources outside the Quran to see exactly how the Messenger explained things? There are other verses which say that if you ignore/reject him, then the Messenger's sole job is to proclaim the message (balagh). But reading 1644 alongside these verses could indicate that if you accept the Messenger, then his job includes explaining to the believers what the Book says/teaches. Layth responded by highlighting the audience "Look at who the audience is... And We did not send any except men before you whom We inspired, so ask the people who received the Reminder if you do not know. With clarity and the Psalms. And We sent down to you the Reminder to make clear to the people what was sent to them, and perhaps they will think." Layth (or anyone else who knows) I would like to clarify your response Are you saying the word "ilayhim" in "unzila ilayhim" refers to the Ahl al-Dhikr or the people of the Messenger or both? And since the word used in "tubayyin", which implies explanation, does this not still imply that the Messenger's job is to explain as well proclaim? Thanks, HR
  • Urdu speaker? Read these books.

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    First download a plugin to read urdu fonts http//www.lizardtech.com/download/dl_options.php?page=popular Download DJVU browser plug-in for your operating system. Then, read books here http//www.tolueislam.com/Urdu/kitabiyat.htm
  • The steps to approach Islam.

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    Peace all. A question, how does this work? I explain. An ex-agnostic approachs Islam. First she faces the traditional Islam as it is the widely spread Islam, including the controversial points, that are partially removed when she faces the existence of progressive/Quran Alone stream. Along these steps, the attempts to read The Quran come and go. Once determined to read it completely to postpone decisions till getting all the meanings, still some trouble. The problem is as follows Quran says that the reader has to be sincere, that means, among other, to not carry preconceptions, if not, the true meaning won't be showed to him/her because God will mislead him/her, or put a bandage, etc. So, each time some doubt, surprise, alarm comes, the reader thinks..."one of two, or this is really alarming or I am sticked in some prejudice, so, I can't understand the true meaning" Conclusion to accept what is written in The Quran wholeheartedly, she has to believe and accept it first, beforehand, and then, she is allowed to verify, to check, study, think and so. Well , she can't deal with the order of events, if one has to believe first, that is similar to believe blindly, if not, the true meaning will never be displayed. And the circle starts once and again, not with all verses, but with some of them. I don't know if any of you could comment something or add some light. Thanks. Elena
  • THE HUMAN HEART OR THE...HUMAN MIND/BRAIN...?

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    Salaamun TO ALL I excerpted this passage from the Free Minds homepage, the author wrote Quote The Human Heart There are four types of humans in this world. -The people who worship nothing in this life. -The people who worship God, but they associate somebody with him as a way of reaching him. -People who believe in God but do not practice. -People who worship God alone. (These people share a very important and focussed idea; in other words they are balanced now). Why is that so? So I started thinking about God's wonder in us as a human body. Earlier I had mentioned that we are focused, balanced people by worshipping God alone, and I think the reason is that because we love him first. So we share the love of God, and love comes from one source and that is the heart. As he mentioned in verse 6411 Often, I here people refer to the "heart" as if it thinks like the brain. I actually had this discussion with a couple of people on different forum or maybe this one. Anyway, the heart contains no gray matter which is essential to thinking/reflecting, hence, it is incorrect to refer to the heart as if it is a source of thought/understanding. The heart "muscle" simply reflects the thoughts/attitudes of the BRAIN and this reflection is called---emoting. When Allh refers to changing one's heart, this is an allegory and what He's actually telling us to do is to---change our thoughts/attitudes! Keep in mind that, thought, always preceded emotion and not the other way around.
  • YABOHP: Yet Another Batch of Hadith Problems

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    Precursor From Quran we see that Islam is COMPLETE. Meaning, all statements in Islam are TRUE. 1-Assume ALL Hadiths are part of Islam. 2-Some Hadiths are a clear contradiction with Quran. Even the strongest proponents of hadiths classify hadiths as 'weak' or 'strong'. Meaning, some statements in hadiths are untrue. 3-Hadith is a subset of Islam, hence some statements in Islam are untrue. 4-But that contradicts with the precursor. Therefore, item 1 (our assumption) is false. Q & A Q)But we can cherry-pick (using our brain), the true hadiths and isolate false hadiths or weak hadiths. A)What gives you the authority to determine whether some part of Islam is true or false? Allah has already given us all the true statements embodied in the Quran. Q)But some issues in Quran are not clearly laid out. Where else do we find out how to perform those things, like zakaat? A)It is Allah's mercy on us that Islam is so simple. It is our discretion to decide HOW to implement the Quranic injunctions. How do we decide that? By virtue of Salaat. Indeed, Islam is an embodiment of democracy. The world is constantly changing. The basic Quranic injunctions will remain the same, but our means of implementation may change over time. E.g, we don't necessarily have to worry about injunctions related to slavery. The anecdote of bani-israel and the calf is given to us with a purpose. Q)But aren't you cherry-picking the Islamic statements yourself by doing that? A)By deciding how to implement an injunction, we are not determining the truth-value of Islam. By deciding among ourselves, the percentage for say, sudqaat, we are starting by the truth-assumption, and then deriving the best way to implement the injunction. On the otherhand, you are determining the true statements in ISlam, and isolating the false statements that you see unfit. Q)But Quran asks us to follow the prophet? A)And it also gives ample anecdotes of the prophet within itself. We can follow up the prophet by reading the verses in the Quran that address to the prophet. If you read those verses carefully, you will notice that their message can exist even today. E.g The wandering tribes. Q)You are degrading the prophet and the Quran by isolating hadiths from islam. A)Let us see, Hadiths show that the prophet was a pedophile, that islam is a violent religion, that islam is a religion, that islam has no room for thought, that women have no rights except to be tied in their homes, that men 'own' women, that adulteres ought to be stoned to death, that Quran is incomplete (the anecdote of a goat eating some ayats written on a leaf), that Quran is not in its true form (Quran not being written at the prophets time), that the prophet was a violent man, that homosexuality is allowed and some even go to the extent of describing God's Noor! In hebrew, Salawaat means to pray. In today's Islam, Salaat is frequently taken as a prayer. Does this sound fishy? Modern day evangilists refer to all of the above statements to show that Islam is bogus. They also refer to the Prophet as a pedophile. So tell me, who is degrading the prophet? Q)Now a question to you dear brother. Tell me, if Hadiths are a part of Islam, how come neither the prophet nor anyone of his four caliphs made any effort to write down and document such a critical aspect of Islam (hadiths)? We all agree that they were great men. Then why didn't they make an effort that all muslims at that time remember hadiths by heart, just like the Quran? A)Because it was not necessary. Because they were in close proximity of the prophet. Q)Upto 200 years? Thats almost four generations wide! At one point we see rigorous approach towards remembering and preserving one part of Islam (the Quran), yet on the otherhand we see no effort whatsoever to preserve the other part (hadiths). So were those people out of their minds or was there something else? A)I don't know. I'll have to ask my religious priest. Q) Ok, I have to ask more questions. So do you have no place for the prophet? I mean, do you respect him and all? A)Absolutely! He HAS to be the greatest man because he was given this HUGE responsibility. But I do not believe that hadith should be part of Islam. Q)So, like can you read hadiths anyway or do you think they should not be read? A) Hadith is also some historical perspective. Not all of the prophet's act are misquoted. We can look into his actions and see what he did at his time. But we cannot use hadith as an integral part of Islam. Q)How can 1.2 billion muslims be wrong? A)Why does a number bother you. According to you, millions of shais, millions of hindus and millions of christian are wrong anyway. What is wrong is wrong regardless of how many people believe in it. Q)This is blasphemy! You will burn in hell! A)Peace to you brother. As the Quran puts it, time will tell who is right and who is wrong.
  • HIJRA. MIGRATION!

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    Peace all, regardless of whether one accepts the celebration of his event or not, i just wanted to know what do you think of this phenomenon. A thought came to my mind today to compile a text on this and thought you may be of help. notice that i am referring to migration as a phenomenon that constitutes part of the human phsycho. the need to move to change places, all those pressures, social, ecconomical, 'spritual, and ...etc. who are those people who choose to migrate and who are those who do not have enough courage and will to move further, who would rather stay. what do yuo think of this and more... peace
  • uk meeting held

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    peace all met up with othere like minded people in the uk for quranic work shop this weekend .there was total 11 who were from a wide range of back grounds and cultures. there were a couple of us from freemind s as well . The purpose of this weekend as I see it was to a meet each othere see if we can get along have some brain storming and of course to use the quran as our guide . Did the weekend come up to my expectations ? more than I thought it would did we all get on after a couple of hick ups and misunderstandings that were on my part and a lack of experince over all on how to handle a group by the group . we got on great when we started sort things out .and yes I would meet every one of the group again and I truly can call them as friends. are we going to meet again .? definetly and the sooner the better. I will keep you informed as things go on and projects get put into place. peace saleem
  • Analysis of Nafs

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    WHAT DO YOU THINK? Nafs The Quran has used this word 255 times as Nafsun 61 times, and in other forms like Anfusahun 91 times, Anfusakum 49 times, Nafsehe 40 times and Nafasun 14 times, etc. It has numerous meanings. Taj-ul-Urus writes that this word is used normally to denote the total personality of a person. It also means intellect, knowledge and mind (Taj / Ibn-e-Faris). It is used for a person as well, e.g., J'aani-al-Maliko Benafsehee - the king came to me personally. It is further used to express greatness, superiority, courage, resolution, punishment. It also means close relative, brotherly (Taj / Lis'anul Arab). It is also used in the meaning of blood which appears after the birth of a child - Nif'asun (Taj). Nafasun also means "breath" and its plural is Anfasun. Ibn-e-Faris says that its basic meanings are light and soft air. It also means a nice thing which attracts a person. Ta-Naffas means to breathe and Ta-Naffasa-Subho means the morning got clear / visible (81/1. An-Fuso also means brotherhood, kith and kin, and one's own self (2/84 and 2/44). The Holy Quran has also used this word for a specific thing called "Human Personality," or in Iqbal's poetry called "Khudi." It is also called "Self," or "Mind." It has been used as a special term in the Quranic concept of life which, in fact, is the basis of Deen-ul-Islam. According to materialistic concept of life, a human being consists of body alone. He is born, brought up, eats, sleeps, falls sick, procreates and then dies. This, in fact, is animal life (47/12) for which he needs no Divine Guidance and, therefore, feels no necessity in having faith in life after death (45/34). Against this, the other concept is that life is not only the human body, but something else too, which may be called "Self" or Nafs. This is not governed by the physical laws, nor does it become extinct with the body's death. If it is developed, it can flourish in this life and survive even after death. Therefore, it needs to be nourished, to enable it to develop according to the evolutionary process. This nourishment has to be according to the Laws given from time to time by Allah to mankind through His Anbia and now finally contained in the Holy Quran. It is, therefore, clear that if one believes in Self and its growth, one also has to believe in Allah, His Wahi, the Nubuwwat and life after death. What is this Nafs? This can neither be perceived nor explained properly as it is not something material. In the Quran it is referred to as Roohona, i.e., Divine Energy. This thing is distinct and separate from everything else in the world. Every human action, even his thoughts affects it. It either settles into his account providing growth and development to his self, or causes its disintegration. He would see this disintegration himself on the Day of Judgement (17/14), when his roster would be flung open before him. One is not affected, nor can he be held responsible for the deeds or misdeeds of others (6/165). Every Nafs shall bear the consequences of its actions and no one can help him in any capacity. (For further explanation see verses (6/105, 10/108, 17/7-15, 27/62, 29/6, 30/44, 31/12, 35/18, 39/7, 39/41, 41/46, 45/15, 53/3. If the Nafs is not developed according to the Divine Laws, its growth is stopped and this becomes a life of Jahannam. Whereas the physical development of the human body depends entirely on its intake, the growth and development of one's self is obtainable by what a person gives to or does for other (92/16). In fact, when someone gives away to others, he is providing nourishment to his own self (2/272). One thing should be understood clearly. This Nafs is a non-physical driving force in man it is neither good nor bad in itself. When it is used to promote higher values of humanity it becomes good and also gets nourished, but when it is used for selfish ends in disregard to the larger interests of humanity, it is bad. The Holy Quran terms it as "Hawa" which is the source of cunningness. When the emotions are kept guided by the Laws of Allah, the self of a person elevates. If the human intellect is used as directed by the Laws of Allah, his life, and in fact, the entire society, takes the shape of Jannah. Now a few words about various formations of this Nafs. When a person's ego chases baser sentiments in total disregard of a permanent value, the Quran terms it as Nafs-e-Amm'ara (12/53). And when it indulges in something bad, the self feels ashamed. This state is called Nafs-e-Lawwama (75/2). It may also be understood that Self, on its own, cannot distinguish between good and bad. This distinction is provided or laid down by Allah alone. When a person follows the Laws of the Quran the tussle between Ego and self is resolved. The Self saddles the baser desires (39/29). When the superior Self overcomes the evil side (39/29), the Quran calls this, as An-Nafs-ul-Mutmaennah (89/27) and he enjoys the blissful life of Jannah (86/29). According to modern psychology it is called as integrated personality, and its reverse is disintegrated personality. The Nafs is free to choose anyone of these. Both the forms are referred to in verse (91/7- 10). Elsewhere the Quran mentions that Allah imposes restrictions on human personality with the sole object of strengthening it and widening its scope (2/286). There is an important verse in Surah Zumr (39/42) explaining various forms of Nafs "Allah suspends the Anfus (plural of Nafs) at the time of death and during sleep. He holds them back in the case of those who die and returns to the others for a determined period." The question is what is this Nafs which is withheld in case of death, or in case of sleep, and is restored when one gets up or is awakened? As far as the sleep is concerned, we know that a man loses nothing of his person except his consciousness - even his sub-consciousness remains with him. It, therefore, transpires that in verse (39/42), Nafs relates to the state of consciousness because it is only the consciousness that leaves a person during sleep as well as on death. When a person re-awakens from his sleep, consciousness starts its replay, while in case of death, the body and consciousness are dislodged permanently. Consequent upon the physical disintegration of a body, re-activation of consciousness is termed as the life in the Hereafter. The mode and form of this re-activation cannot be comprehended by the human being with present bounds of his perceptions. This is because, at present, the only recognition of active consciousness is inter-related with our physical body and we cannot visualise such activation independent of its physical carrier. The Quran does not throw any light on the mode and form of the re-activation in the life Hereafter, because it is beyond the present capabilities of our senses of perception and thus would not have served any useful purpose. However, the Quran has narrated it as an established fact and the followers of the Quran firmly believe in this truth which forms the very foundation of the edifice that Ad-Deen-ul-Islam builds. [Since the subject is an important one, it would not be out of place to propound some view-points of modern psychologists in this respect- Carl Rogers very rightly believed that "the goal an individual most wishes to achieve, the end which he knowingly and unknowingly pursues. is to become 'himself.'" Self-knowledge or self-examination has always been of great crucial importance ever since times immemorial. Happiness and contentment, equability of soul and meaningfulness - these can be experienced only by the individual himself. What is my goal in life? What am I striving for? What is my purpose? These are the questions which every individual asks himself at one time or the other; sometimes calmly and meditatively, sometimes in agonising uncertainty or despair. These are old old questions which have been asked and answered at various stages of human history by different philosophers, theorists, etc. Yet these are all questions which every individual must ask and answer for himself at times in his own way. The study of self has been the nucleus and centre of research by psychologists and even philosophers since Grecian times. While they all have acknowledged its importance, they gave it different names, and different models have been evolved over centuries. Many have presented pyramidal models of achieving self-actualisation (Abraham Maslow) or the process of "individuation" (Carl Jung). Studies and researches have been carried out with different groups to study the stability of the self-concept, self-acceptance, self-ideal, self-integration (Allport) id, ego, super ego (Freud) self-extension or self-identity. Erich Fromm said, "Man is the only animal who finds his own existence a problem which he has to solve and from which he cannot escape."
  • HAVE ANOTHER LAUGH-:)

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    Asalamu alaikum,Lo,I admit,I have yet to fully embrace the "Quran only position",HowEver,this is funny,This guy asks us "How will we know, how to beat up our wives, without the ahadeeth?",HA ha HA ha,not the very best "pro hadeeth"argument their Brother..READ QUOTE I gave an example to one of those people on how will they react if they get in a quarrel with their wives. The Qur'an does not deny domestic violence. But how will those people beat up their wives? Would they do it with a twig or with a nunchaku or a baseball bat? Once they throw the Sunna' away, they get preyed upon very easily by Muslim critics. Any Muslim-hater will easily say, "Hey look, you people beat your wives!" And the anti-Hadith sectarian will not know how the Prophet taught us to react when treating our wives during anger. If he replies back and says, "No, but we use the miswak", they will be told "But that's not in the Qur'an, and you said that ahadith are false." ----END QUOTE,ha HA ha
  • Lets have a bit of laugh....

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    This is from an islamic discussion forum.....some of u might find it funny.. lol Star, I'm sorry. I just have to reply to them because I didn't get the chance to. Anisa, For a man to see his wife's body and his wife to see his naked body is an eesential part to a marriage? What? What about feelings not of physical but of emotional? What about having your husband as your best friend? My mesab/hujur/islamist, had told me that husband and wife should have sex under the sheets because only the satan makes a man and a woman have sex wildly and not for the purpose of what having sex is for. lol Samtel. Muslims are only allowed to do it under the sheets and when the husband is at top doing pushups lol, while the wife is beneath him having her legs opened. =0) Desi_soul, you completely misunderstood what I had wrote down. I had meant a husband and wife, that's it. I didn't say a person to have sex with a daughter in law and a 9 year old child, unless the 9 year old child is that person's wife, that is a different story. Adam and Eve weren't siblings. They were created by Allah without having any parents. Prophets write books because Allah had told them. Allah doesn't imagine, he knows. I believe in Allah because the days I don't believe in him, I have bad luck and when they days I do pray and talk to Allah, I feel pure and holy as if all the sins had astrayed. To show you proof, I can only tell you by killing yourself =0) to find out if Allah had actually wrote the Qu'ran. BTW, who wrote your holy book? For your information, desi_soul, the yahoo site is not an intellectual site. God knows what is written in that site. What I had learned about researching is never look under yahoo.com. I had learned that only get references from libraries where it is written by Muslims only if it's a Islamic book and if it is a other religious book it should be written by them in order to understand it. But what I had learned from being a Muslimah is that only rely on what the informations are in the Qu'ran and the hadith. You have to give me a hadith's name or the Qu'ran's chapter or verse which claims who Mohammad's wives are. Or else, I don't think I'll believe you from a yahoo address. Sorry! Are you trying to say it is in the Sura Bukhari? Because I had read that sura like 3 times and nowhere did it say he has 11 wives. I need more proof than that. All I know Abu Bakr was not Mohammad's brother but his uncle. http//www.coran.org???? what is that? They didn't even spell Qu'ran correctly. Westerners say it like Koran, but it is actually Qu'ran, the arabic way. What is coran? I will read sura al ahzab and get back at you on that. Also if they knew the prophet saw well (www.prophetmuhammed.org) they would know how to spell the prophet's name at least. Of what I know he has 4 wives, that's all. He doesn't have more than that. You are an unbeliever of Islam, that's why you are finding "fake" websites which is not even an intellectual website and not written by scholars of Islam in order to claim that Islam is fake, when Islam is not. Us Muslims are told that we are only to believe what the Qu'ran and hadith says but not any other. =0) Samtel, you just have to believe. If you don't believe in Islam, you will find your answer when you die, that is all I have to say to you. Source http//www.bangladesh.com/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=15399&pagenumber=1
  • Ate of the tree ,eve ?

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    Salaam to everyone, satan whispered to them "shall i show thee a tree of eternity ,whereby your kindom will never die it will continue for ever. And they both ate of the tree,and so their nakedness appeared to them,or their shame bacame apparent to them, and they started to sew together , for their covering ,leaves from the garden and so they did dissobey allah. As one professor once explained that the tree is simply the sexual encounter between adam and his wife which allah with all his wisdom forbade them but on dissobeing allah they both found out the purpose of the physical body and thus started to hide themselves. If this is right then a masjid can definately be non physical.can't it? Salaams to all.
  • New Organization

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    Peace of God on all, What's up, guys? This is my first time posting here, but I have been cruising the site for quite a while. The reason I'm posting here right now is to ask a huge favor of y'all. First, let me introduce myself. My name is Zach. I live in the USA. I'm a college student and I'm very interested in the active representation of the views of people like yourselves. So I am in the works of starting a new organization exclusively for the promotion of the Qur'an in the United States. This will be huge, I promise. I just need AWESOME, ENERGETIC, HOLY SPIRIT-DRIVEN PEOPLE! We have to get the ball rolling in the States, guys. These are dangerous times that we are living in, when lies are the basis of our culture that is SO set in its ways. It is time to break the foundation of these lies with the Truth that God and His Awesome Grace has given us. We cannot keep the Qur'an to ourselves. It is truly a gift that must be shared with the people that have been so misguided by what so-called religious Muslims have been saying. We know that deep down in our hearts, their "Islam" is NOT a religion of peace. It is a religion of intolerance, weightlessness, and trash. I, for one, will not allow the Din of God to be infiltrated. It is the duty of the righteous to stand up for themselves in these perilous times. The Truth does NOT care if we do not follow it. It will ALWAYS be the Truth, no matter who loves it or not. However, we need to share the Truth so others may come to know the system of Adonai in its purest form. Anyone interested in helping with this powerful organization will, God-willing, email me [email protected]. God-speed. Zach wink