Questions/Comments on the Quran

Yet another evidence that it is personal name. Prostration-obeisance is before and for the Person, and not for his traits http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/022.%20Al%20Hajj/22.18.gif Have you not yet observed that Allah is the one for Whom prostrates..... http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.034/150.%20Isjidoo%20Seen%20Jeem%20Daal/23.gif Verb Imperfect; third person; singular; masculine; Mood Indicative; Verbal noun - . Its Root is " " and the basic perception infolded therein is that of an act of someone lowering his head before another one. This act signifies and demonstratively portrays/parallel his thought of surrender and submission reflecting acceptance of his comparable humble state and position as against the other. This gives us its initial perception and meanings as obeisance, homage, respectful gesture and behviour for/with someone else. At the very first instance of its use in Qur'aan, we get the perception and meanings of this Root Listen attentively; at the point in time when We had said for the Angles, "You people pay obeisance for Adam" ; Moreover, it reflects acceptance of his limitations/limitedness as against the self-feel of grandeur and self-sufficiency. Since this is a physical act, therefore, the cause or the feel, which is its stimuli, can either be sincere, affectionate, reverence oriented, or distastefully coercive. The sincere feel and passion paralleled by the physical gesture of body parts bowing reflects willful and affectionate acknowledgement of the love, greatness, grandeur and superiority of the one for or before whom one demonstrates it. The extreme gesture of such feel and passion is prostration, one lowering his face/chin down towards the Earth/floor and placing his forehead on ground. This is the expression of acceptance of absolute humility and surrender of one's will and freedom of choice. This is demonstration of reverence for the one for whom he went into prostration. The natural and logical effect of this demonstration is to get nearer and be focus of the attention of the one for whom he went into prostration. A complete perusal of Grand Qur'aan reveals that Prostration is prescribed only by the Specific Name......... Continue Prostration-obeisance is before and for the Person, and not for his traits

Continue, for reading the entire article Consonants and Vowels of Arabic language-so called mystery of Alif Laam Meem

Peace, Where do you get this stuff from? Peace, Is there anything but fact? It is compiled by me.

I think that sufism deals with an aspect of existence that is necessary for many people. Also it depends a lot on the tariqa. If it is a good one (from my point of view of course, so from the point of view of the person who considers it) it will focus on the spiritual path and will not pound on ritualism, even if there is ritualism, nor will they pound on laws and legality of rituals, which are merely a means, and all depends on whether they serve or they do not serve their purpose. What I mean is that from my point of view, the problem of hadiths is the intent to derive laws from them, or formal doctrine from them, which makes proving their legitimacy something fundamental. If we take hadiths as any other piece of pious or spiritual literature, and not as a source of law or doctrine, there is no problem, just as there is no problem with reading Rumi, or any other author or mystic or writer of religious or historic literature. We take from it what we can and discard the rest or simply just do not do anything with it. As we all know, hadiths are not a unitary piece of work, but a very heteregeneous collection of very different narrations, which may have something to do with the Prophet or not. We are not going to know which come from him and which do not. So again we are bound to take each of those narrations at their face value and, of course individually. The virtues of a good narration do not translate to a bad narration, of course. ?Does a particular narration which inspires and teaches come from the Prophet? It is possible, of course. We are not able to determine with certainty? Do we need to? I do not think so. If it is good and serves as, ultimately it comes from our Creator... I think that comes in real of our own personal freedom to shape our "literary" horizon in the form most suitable for us. I think that is what they do in good tariqas. Of hadith, they take those that enclose some source of inspirition, those that are spiritually meaningful. Obviously they do not bother with bullshit, although they will not go on a crusade either to crush them. Just ignore them. They usually will not go on any crusade against anything. Thei aim is more in the positive. You get rid of the bullshit by concentrating on the pure stuff. So to your question, Pel, I think if you do find a good tariqa, go for it. You do not need either to let go of your own judgement or honest reasoning. What I have seen is that if you are honest, usually a good shaikh or shaykha will give honest and pure advice and you will not be shocked, but pleasantly surprised. Are there many good shaikhs? I do not know. Trust God, an pray that you find a good one. May God bless you Salaam

It was human nature, the devil inside every human, that incited hatred and ill-feelings. Human beings always see the grass on the other side as greener. Yusuf's brothers thought he was favored, they were not happy nor felt enough with the love given by their father (in my impression anyway). It was on their mind, the only medium where satan could communicate to them, and that resulted into hatred. That's actually the 'lesson'. Indeed humans are 'envious' but excuse me I don't see Mr Satan as being mentioned anywhere in the Quran or Bible story. Which is another 'human basic traits', human always try to blame others for their mis-conduct. As thus Don't be 'envious', learn to appreciate what you have more than trying to grab for something which you don't or can't have. Do not envy is actually part of the Ten Commandments.. When faced with mis-fortune try to do self-retrospection rather than putting on blame to others. Salam / Peace

Can anyone refer me to someone with knowledge? I realy dnt understand much of wat has been said... I dnt no Arabic Eitha which makes it a little more difficult to no ur arguments

Where are we commanding Allah? Allah is commanding us to "Say Rabbi alzidni 'ilma" May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr Mohammed M. Khan Even in English no one writes like this, red above. Say is outside the quote. is an imperative/command verb- , second person, masculine, singular, and the Subject of verb is Allah who is being requeted to do that act. When the subject of such command Verb is Allah-the Exalted this verb is referred as and since Allah is first commanding to do this act, Qul denoted "You pray"

It's the problem of using proper names instead of acknowledging that ayn-lam-waw, when used in The Quran, is not a proper name, and instead is, in the instances that loxbox has mentioned, used to describe God as something exalted, high, etc. From PRL Ayn-Lam-Waw = to be high, elevated, lofty, exalted, ascend, overcome, be proud/upon/over, go up, rise in rank or dignity, raise, take up, mount, overtop.

Salaam Sonnie, Can you please explain further? Salaam You can visit at the following link to know the difference between AlKitaab and AlQuraan inshaAllah. http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9601702.msg268251#msg268251 May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr Mohammed M. Khan

Thank you Mazhar, that makes a lot more sense now! )

More proof 2436 In houses that God has allowed to be raised (RF3) and be mentioned/remembered in them/it His name. He is glorified therein morning and evening. Has any relationship with ? If so, how?

The answer to your question is explained in the following link, starting from page 156 http//www.thekr.net/media/books/book01.pdf Regards

More on "Osiris".. In a book of Jasher, (a jewish book who are considered as 'heretical books' as thus being excluded from the 'official bundle' of the Tanakh). There's a story about a real human Egyptians King named "Osiris son of Anom". http//www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/jasher/14.htm Who are being 'tricked' and 'upsurped' by a cunning fellow. And just like any other 'god' myth in other religion, there's usually a trace where 'god' used to be a real human being. And more often 'human being who are loved by it's people' which legend and stories grows after his death. Osiris, Amon/Anom, Jesus, Krishna, Hercules, Muhammad and many others.. (note Muhammad as of now are not yet "God" but are in the 'near God' status, as many believes Muhammad never did any wrong and still alive somewhere in heaven overlooking people behavior on earth and many times Muhammad deliver his message in dreams to his elected subject / followers) Salam / Peace

Muahaha. voodoo I'll take your uber long silence as concession.

What if it is 1 man and 1 woman, could you still use duality "allazan", ? Thanks

That sarcastic remark above the nature of Khadija's ENQUIRY. Btw, the word in 65/4 is 'nisaa'ikum' (grown women) not 'walidat' or 'banat' (which could refer to children). Glad to see your loyalty as a 'muslim woman' there, Khadija. You ok bro? Woke up on the wrong side of the bed?

I found an interesting little snippet. 003169 - Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord; Now to quote from the Tao Te Ching Empty the self completely; Embrace perfect peace. The world will rise and move; Watch it return to rest. All the flourishing things Will return to their source. This return is peaceful; It is the flow of nature, An eternal decay and renewal. Accepting this brings enlightenment, Ignoring this brings misery. Who accepts nature's flow becomes all-cherishing; Being all-cherishing he becomes impartial; Being impartial he becomes magnanimous; Being magnanimous he becomes natural; Being natural he becomes one with the Way; Being one with the Way he becomes immortal Though his body will decay, the Way will not. Yet the quran says that they are alive as if they truly are alive without a body. Thoughts? I think it is talking metaphorically.

Salaam, The wives's ma malakat aymanihim is the prophet himself, ma malakat aymanihi is his wives Nothing to do with slaves for slavery was abolished with Islam by the Quran it's as saying you're my friend and my brother Azwaj isn't always wives, it's pairs, when it is wives, it's azwaj and ma malakt ayman I prefer to translate "Azwaj" as "Couple" instead of Pairs 3352 3355 for exemple, your wife is your pair and what your rights possses, and vice versa If so then what means 425 425 And whoever of you cannot afford to marry the independent female believers, then from those maintained by your oaths of the believing young women. And Allah is more aware of your faith, some of you to each other. You shall marry them with the permission of their parents and give them their dowries in kindness; to be independent, not for illicit sex or taking lovers. When they become independent, then any of them who come with lewdness shall have half of what is the punishment for those independent. This is for those who are concerned about deviating from among you. But if you are patient it is better for you, and Allah is Forgiver, Merciful. 1- They are not your wives. 2- They are not like other women who protects themselves , when you cannot afford to marry a Muhsanaat then you can marry MMA. 3- Cause they have half of the punishment of Muhsanaat. May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr Mohammed M. Khan

Salaaman LB13, I understand it as follows and when you remember your Lord in the Quraan alone Him It could be said as "...And when you remember your Lord in AlQuraan Him alone..." "Hu" is a Zameer with "Wahda" that is referring to "Rabuuka " Please correct me if I am wrong. May Allah increase us all in knowledge and guide us all on His path pr Mohammed M. Khan if it was about allah alone in the quran, it could be written this way (not a verse -&gt , as always written Allahou wahdah, everywhere, wahdah comes straight after the word allah or rabbuk , except here wahdah comes after Quran as , both interpeetations could be right, but it sounds like the litteral translation is the one meant here, because allah is always mentioned alone in the quran, so no need for a verse to say metioned alone in the quran, he's always the only one worshiped, adored or loved in the quran, , so the other translation is also correct, When you mention your Lord in the quran only ... Because people don't like the quran, but they like allah, they like him more in the gospels, or the torah, or hadiths etc... and it bothers many when it's in the quran only. I guess both interpretations could be correct, but i want to closest one to the arabic meaning.

peace Mazhar, Thanks for confirming you cannot refute what I wrote, except by trying to equate like with unlike. "residents therein" is a reference to al masjid al haram, not kaabah (which you take to refer to the cuboid in Mecca called Kaabah), as is obvious even from your own translation. So, let me help you out, you're trying to refute what I wrote by implying "akif" in 2125 refers to resident in al masjid al haram, when this is not what The Quran says. In other words, you are forced to interpret it another way, otherwise it becomes the exception to The Quranic rule, as I pointed out. The most interesting thing from my original post is not the critical problem it poses for al bayt=kaabah, it is that the logical conclusion is that al bayt in this context cannot refer to any man-made representation, which "coincidentally" just so happens to fit perfectly into The Quran. &nbsp Peace Wakas, I do not equate Masjid Al-Haraam with Ka'aba. Pl see translation again. So, let me help you out, you're trying to refute what I wrote by implying "akif" in 2125 refers to resident in al masjid al haram, when this is not what The Quran says. This perception is because of the fact that you do not take care to see the prepositions surrounding the word you are trying to interpret just by seeing a similar looking word somewhere else and you think these should be equated and juxtaposed upon each other. Logic helps and works only when elementaries are understood. Please first determine about each word and phrase individually and later determine relationship of each with other and role being played by each which may enable you to understand what actually Qur'aan is saying. Please let me have your analysis.