What is the nature of God?

Facts or Delusional? Logical or Illogical? https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/57787338_2327604017456176_595050276998610944_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=031caf82812c400e3a3dc72ea8c7d43a&oe=5D3FC1DD https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18951283_1941646086051973_7125297245770236562_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=83ee4df9b0974d7f7152906edcb1c1b5&oe=5D2F8D6A "If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe." - Nikola Tesla

No chemical needed, No strange ritual needed, You just communicate away.. God knows the content of your message even long before you say it.

IF Party of Allah THEN jihad against GIANTS! (Naturalist Party) ELSE withdrawn from the society / make clear distinction The angels ask those they take while they are wronging themselves, "What were your circumstances?" They reply, "We were oppressed on earth." They say, "Was Allah´s earth not wide enough for you to have made hijra elsewhere in it?" The shelter of such people will be Hell. What an evil destination! (497) https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52528737_2292601967623048_22190506880532480_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=5f28002a6d14808de6787491bd5b9d5a&oe=5CE2D945 Or did you suppose that you would enter the Garden without there having come to you the like of that which came to those who passed away before you? Misfortune and hardship befell them, and they were so shaken that the Messenger and those who believed with him said, ?When will God&#039s Help come?? Yea, surely God&#039s Help is near. (2214) https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610500.0 https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610467.0 You will not find 'Muslims' who have iman in Allah/Sunnatullah/Way of Allah/LordLaw of Nature and the Last Day (cause and effect) on friendly terms with anyone who opposes (bystand/neutral) Allah/Sunnatullah/Way of Allah/LordLaw of Nature and His Messenger/Natural LordLaw/Natural Person/Ecological Citizens, though they be their fathers, their sons, their brothers or their clan. Allah has inscribed iman upon such people´s hearts and will reinforce them with a Ruh from Him and admit them into Gardens with rivers flowing under them, remaining in them timelessly, for ever. Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. Such people are the party of Allah. Truly it is the party of Allah who are successful. (5822) On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (5030) • If You Don't Start The pure natural belivers should not take kafirun as friends rather than pure natural belivers. Anyone who does that has nothing to do with Allah at all. (32 • You'll Never Finish There is no tawba for people who persist in doing "EVIL" (ie. is on friendly terms with "forced justice/political jurisprudence&quot. (41 • One life, One chance.. what you do it's up to you. https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610547.0

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My understanding of the word ias completely different from yours and I do not know of a synonyme for worship, so what is the use of further discussing, you about something is not the same as I am discussing. I never, never, never considered that worship is rituals nor to gods, the closest thing to it and used, at least by Spanish speaking people, figuratively, it is when one is deeply in love and unable even to breath without the loved one. Salaam sister huruf I want to learn more about your understanding so if you wish we can continue in following new thread https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610450.0#new

I don't believe you. Your evidence is not enough for me. I am waiting for a peer reviewed journal. Only then I will believe....even though peer reviewed journals do turn out to be wrong several times. Why not just use pure reason? You don't need a peer reviewed journal to verify what is a matter of pure reason. Rationally speaking, you can't deny the the existence of an Almighty God. Consider the following topic https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610345.0

In a nutshell freechoice (and logic). This life (in terms of what Quran says) would be irrelevant without it. Rules of the "game". Bold This worldy life is a an illusion. Here is a copy & paste from a friend of mine. 2204 And from among the people are whose words you admire in this worldly life, but God is witness as to what is in his heart, for he is the worst in opposition. 2205 And if he gains power, he seeks to corrupt the earth and destroy its crops, and the lineage. God does not love corruption. 2206 And if he is told ?Be aware of God,? his pride leads him to more sin. Hell shall be sufficient for him; what a miserable abode (Al-Mihadu)! 2207 And from among the people is he who sells his soul seeking the grace of God; God is kind to His servants. 2208 O you who believe, enter in the submission (Islam) completely, and do not follow the footsteps of devil. Surely he is for you an Open Enemy. 2209 But if you slip after the clarity has come to you, then know that God is Noble, Wise. THIS WORLDLY LIFE HAS BEEN MADE PLEASING TO THE DISBELIEVERS 2212 This worldly life has been made pleasing to the disbelievers, and they mock those who believe. And those who are righteous will be above them on the Day of Resurrection; God provides for whoever He wishes without a price. THIS WORLDLY LIFE IS NOTHING MORE THAN THE ENJOYMENT OF VANITY 3185 Every soul will taste death, and you will be recompensed your dues on the Day of Resurrection. Whoever is swayed (Zuh?ziha) from the Fire and entered into the Paradise, he has indeed won. This worldly life is nothing more than the enjoyment of vanity. THEY SAY THERE IS ONLY THIS WORLDLY LIFE 629 And they had said ?There is only this worldly life, and we will not be resurrected (Bi-Mabuthina)!? 630 And if you could see them when they are standing at their Lord; He said ?IS THIS NOT THE TRUTH?? They said ?Yes, by our Lord,? He said ?Then taste the retribution for what you have rejected.? 631 Losers are those who have denied their meeting with God; until the Hour comes to them suddenly, then they say ?We deeply regret that which we have wasted in it,? and they will carry their burdens on their backs; miserable indeed is their burden. 632 And the worldly life is nothing more than play and distraction, and the abode of the Hereafter is far better for those who are righteous. Do you not comprehend? TEMPTED BY WORLDLY LIFE 670 Leave alone those who have taken their system (Deen) for play and distraction, and this worldly life has tempted them. And remind with it that a soul will suffer for what it has earned, it will not have besides God any supporter nor intercessor (Shafi?un); and even if it brings all justice, none will be accepted from it. These are the ones who have suffered with what they have earned; for them will be a boiling drink, and a painful retribution for what they had rejected. THE WORLDLY LIFE DECEIVED THEM 6130 ?O assembly of Jinn and Ins, did not messengers come to you from among you and tell to you My revelations, and warn you of the meeting of this Day?? They said ?Yes, we bear witness upon ourselves;? and the worldly life deceived them, and they bore witness upon themselves that they were rejecters. THEY WERE PREOCCUPIED WITH THIS WORLDLY LIFE 750 And the dwellers of the Fire called on the dwellers of the Paradise ?Give us some water, or what God has provided for you?? They said ?God has made it forbidden for the rejecters.? 751 The ones who took their system (Deen) for distraction and play, and were preoccupied with this worldly life. Today We forget them as they forgot their meeting on this Day, and they did not heed Our revelations. 752 And We have come to them with a Book which We have detailed (Fassalnahu) with knowledge; a guidance and a mercy to those who believe. BECOME CONTENT WITH THIS WORLDLY LIFE OVER THE HEREAFTER 938 O you who believe, what is wrong with you when you are told ?Mobilize in the cause of God,? you become heavy on the earth. Have you become content with this worldly life over the Hereafter? The enjoyment of this worldly life compared to the Hereafter is nothing. WORLDLY LIFE OF HYPOCRITES 954 And what prevented what they would spend from being accepted from them except that they rejected God and His messenger, and they do not attend the following closely (Salat) except lazily, and they do not spend (Yunfiquna) except unwillingly. 955 So do not be impressed by their wealth or children; God only wishes to punish them with it in the worldly life, and so that their souls will be taken while they are rejecters. 956 And they swear by God that they are with you, while they are not with you; but they are a people who are indecisive. CONTENT WITH WORLDLY LIFE 107 As for those who do not wish to meet Us, and they are content with the worldly life, and they feel secure by it, and they are unaware of Our signs. 108 To these will be the destiny of the Fire for what they earned. EXAMPLE OF THE WORLDLY LIFE 1021 And if We let the people taste a mercy after some hardship had afflicted them, they take to scheming against Our revelations! Say ?God is faster in scheming;? Our messengers record what you scheme. 1022 He is the One who carries you on land and on the sea. And when you are on the ships and We drive them with a good wind which they rejoice with, a strong gust comes to them and the waves come to them from all sides, and they think that they are finished, they implore God with loyalty and devotion to His system ?If You save us from this, we will be of the thankful.? 1023 But when He saves them, they then traverse through the land with injustice. ?O people, what you seek out is only the luxury of this worldly life, then to Us is your return and We will inform you of all that you had done.? 1024 The example of the worldly life is like a water which has come down from the sky, so it mixed with the plants of the earth from what the people and the livestock eat. Then the earth takes its shape and becomes beautiful and its inhabitants think that they have mastered it; then Our judgment comes by night or by day, so We make it a wasteland as if it never prospered by the yesterday! It is such that We clarify the revelations for a people who think. 1025 God calls to the abode of peace, and He guides those whom He wishes to a straight path. FOR THE ALLIES OF GOD GLAD TIDINGS IN THE WORLDLY LIFE 1062 For the allies of God, there is no fear over them nor will they grieve. 1063 Those who have believed and are aware. 1064 For them are glad tidings in the worldly life and in the Hereafter. There is no changing the words (agreements) of God. Such is the great triumph. PHARAOH AND HIS COMMANDERS ADORNMENTS AND WEALTH IN THIS WORLDLY LIFE 1088 And Moses said ?Our Lord, you have given Pharaoh and his commanders adornments and wealth in this worldly life so that they will misguide from Your path. Our Lord, wipe out their wealth and bring grief to their hearts; for they will not believe until they see the painful retribution.? PEOPLE OF JONAH ENJOYED THE WORLDLY LIFE 1098 If there was any town that benefited from its belief, then that was the people of Jonah. When they believed, We removed from them the retribution of disgrace in this worldly life, and We let them enjoy until a time. WHOEVER WANTS THE WORLDLY LIFE 1115 Whoever wants the worldly life and its adornments, then We will grant them their works in it, and they will not be short changed in it. 1116 These will have nothing but fire in the Hereafter, and what they have done will be in vain, and evil is what they have worked. HAPPY WITH THE WORLDLY LIFE THAN HEREAFTER 1326 God gives the provisions for whom He wishes, and He is Capable. And they were happy with the worldly life, but the worldly life compared to the Hereafter is nothing except a brief enjoyment. THE ONES WHO HAVE PREFERRED THE WORLDLY LIFE OVER THE HEREAFTER 143 The ones who have preferred the worldly life over the Hereafter, and they repel from the path of God, and they seek to make it crooked. Those are the ones who are in misguidance. GOD MAKES FIRM THOSE WHO BELIEVE WITH FIRM SAYINGS IN THE WORLDLY LIFE 1427 God makes firm those who believe with firm sayings in the worldly life, and in the Hereafter. And God misguides the wicked, and God does what He wishes. THEY HAVE PREFERRED THE WORLDLY LIFE OVER THE HEREAFTER 16107 That is because they have preferred the worldly life over the Hereafter, and God does not guide the rejecting people. 16108 Those are the ones whom God has stamped on their hearts, and their hearing, and their sight, and these are the unaware ones. 16109 Without doubt, in the Hereafter they are the losers. LET NOT YOUR EYES OVERLOOK THEM THAT YOU SEEK THE BEAUTY OF THIS WORLDLY LIFE 1828 And have patience upon yourself regarding those who call on their Lord at dawn and dusk seeking His face, and let not your eyes overlook them that you seek the beauty of this worldly life. And do not obey he whom We have made his heart heedless of Our remembrance and he followed his desire, and his fate was lost. THE EXAMPLE OF THIS WORLDLY LIFE 1845 And give them the example of this worldly life is like a water which We have sent down from the sky, so that the plants of the earth mix with it and it becomes murky being moved by the wind. And God has control (through standards and measure) over all things. 1846 Wealth and sons are a beauty of this worldly life. But the good deeds that remain behind are better with your Lord for a reward, and better for hope. THOSE WHOSE EFFORTS IN THE WORLDLY LIFE WERE WASTED WHILE THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING GOOD 18103 Say ?Shall we inform you of the greatest losers?? 18104 ?Those whose efforts in the worldly life were wasted while they thought they were doing good!? 18105 These are the ones who rejected the revelations of their Lord and His meeting. So their works were in vain, and We will not give them any value on the Day of Resurrection. 18106 That is their recompense, Hell; for what they rejected and for taking My revelations and My messengers for mockery! THE FLOWER OF THE WORLDLY LIFE 20131 And do not crave with your eyes (O Muhammad) what We have bestowed upon some couples from them; the flower of the worldly life; so as to test them in it; and the provision of your Lord is better and more lasting. 20132 And instruct your family to the following closely (Salat), and be patient for it. We do not ask you for provision, for We provide for you. And the ending will be for righteousness. LEADERS INDULGED IN THIS WORLDLY LIFE 2333 And the leaders from among his people who rejected and denied the meeting of the Hereafter; and We indulged them in this worldly life; said ?What is this but a human being like you? He eats from what you eat and he drinks from what you drink.? 2334 ?And if you obey a human being like you, then you will indeed be losers.? 2335 ?Does he promise you that if you die and become dust and bones that you will be brought out?? 2336 ?Far fetched is what you are being promised.? 2337 ?There is nothing but our worldly life, we die and we live, and we will not be resurrected (Bi-Mab?uthina).? 2338 ?He is but a man who has invented a lie against God, and we will not believe in him.? 2339 He said ?My Lord, grant me victory for what they denied me.? 2340 He said ?In a little while they will be in regret.? 2341 So the scream took them with justice, and We made them as dead plants. So away with the wicked people. WORLDLY LIFE OF QAROON 2879 Then he came out among his people draped in his ornaments. Those who preferred this worldly life said ?Oh, if only we were given similar to what Qaroon has been given. Indeed, he is very fortunate.? 2880 And those who were blessed with knowledge said ?Woe to you! The reward from God is far better for those who believe and do good work. And none attains it except the steadfast.? 2881 We then caused the earth to swallow him and his mansion. He had no group that could protect him against God; nor would he be victorious. 2882 And those who wished they were in his place the day before said ?Indeed it is God Who provides or restricts for whoever He chooses from among His servants. Had it not been for the grace of God towards us, He could have caused the earth to swallow us as well. We now realize that the rejecters never succeed.? 2883 Such will be the abode of the Hereafter; We reserve it for those who do not seek prestige on the earth, nor corruption; and the ending will be for the righteous. 2884 Whoever brings forth a good deed, he will receive a better reward than it. And whoever brings forth a sin then the retribution for their sins will be to the extent of their deeds. YOU HAVE TAKEN IDOLS BESIDES GOD IN ORDER TO PRESERVE SOME FRIENDSHIP AMONG YOU IN THIS WORLDLY LIFE 2925 And he (Abraham) said ?You have taken idols besides God in order to preserve some friendship among you in this worldly life. But then, on the Day of Resurrection, you will reject one another, and curse one another. Your destiny is Hell, and you will have no victors.? THIS WORLDLY LIFE IS NO MORE THAN DISTRACTION AND PLAY 2964 And this worldly life is no more than distraction and play, while the abode of the Hereafter is the reality, if only they knew. REJECTERS PREFER WORLDLY LIFE 307 They only know the outside appearance of the worldly life; and regarding the Hereafter, they are ignorant. 308 Did they not reflect upon themselves? God did not create the heavens and the earth and what is between them except with truth and an appointed term. But most of the people are in denial regarding their meeting with their Lord. DECEIVED BY THIS WORLDLY LIFE 3133 O people, you shall reverence your Lord, and be concerned of a Day when a father cannot help his child, nor can a child help his father. Certainly, the promise of God is truth. Therefore, do not be deceived by this worldly life; and do not be deceived from God by arrogance. PROPHET?S WIFE AND WORLDLY LIFE 3328 O prophet, say to your wives ?If you are seeking this worldly life and its vanities, then come, I will make a provision for you and release you in an amicable manner.? 3329 ?But if you are seeking God and His messenger, and the abode of the Hereafter, then God has prepared for the righteous among you a great reward.? OVERWHELMED BY THIS WORLDLY LIFE 355 O people, the promise of God is the truth; therefore, do not be overwhelmed by this worldly life, and do not let arrogance overwhelm you from God. 356 The devil is for you an enemy, so treat him as an enemy. He only invites his faction to be the dwellers of Hell. 357 Those who reject will have a painful retribution, and those who believe and do good works they will have a forgiveness and a great reward. THIS WORLDLY LIFE IS BUT AN ENJOYMENT 4038 And the one who believed said ?O my people, follow me, and I will guide you to the right path.? 4039 ?O my people, this worldly life is but an enjoyment, while the Hereafter is the permanent abode.? 4040 ?Whoever does a sin, will not be requited except for its equivalent, and whoever does good, whether male or female, and is a believer, then those will be admitted to the Paradise, where they will receive provision without reckoning.? 4041 ?And, O my people, why is it that I invite you to salvation, while you invite me to the Fire!? 4042 ?You invite me to reject God, and set up partners besides Him that I have no knowledge of, and I am inviting you to the Noble, the Forgiver.? 4043 ?There is no doubt that what you invite me to has no basis in this world, nor in the Hereafter. And our ultimate return will be to God, and that the transgressors will be the dwellers of the Fire.? 4044 ?You will come to remember what I am telling you, and I leave my affair in this matter to God; for God is the Seer of the servants.? VICTORY IN WORLDLY LIFE 4051 We will indeed grant victory to Our messengers and to those who believed in the worldly life, and on the Day when the witnesses will rise. 4052 A Day when excuses will be of no help to the transgressors, and they will be cursed, and they will have the worst abode. WE ARE YOUR ALLIES IN THIS WORLDLY LIFE 4130 Those who have said ?Our Lord is God,? then they did right, the angels will come down upon them ?You shall not fear, nor shall you grieve. Rejoice in the good news of the Paradise that you have been promised.? 4131 ?We are your allies in this worldly life and in the Hereafter. In it you will have anything your soul desires, and in it you will have anything you ask for.? 4132 ?A dwelling, from a Forgiver, Merciful.? 4133 And whose words are better than one who invites to God, and does good works, and says ?I am one of those who have submitted.? WHATEVER YOU ARE GIVEN IS SIMPLY AN ENJOYMENT OF THE WORLDLY LIFE 4236 So whatever you are given is simply an enjoyment of the worldly life, and what is with God is far better and more lasting for those who believe and put their trust in their Lord. 4237 And those who avoid major sins and immorality, and when they are angered, they forgive. 4238 And those who have responded to their Lord, and they establish the following closely (Salat), and their affairs are conducted by mutual consultation among themselves, and from Our provisions to them they give. 4239 And those who, when injustice befalls them, they seek justice. 4240 The recompense for a crime shall be its equivalence, but whoever forgives and makes right, then his reward is upon God. He does not like the wrongdoers. 4241 And for any who demand action after being wronged, those are not committing any error. 4242 The error is upon those who oppress the people, and they aggress in the land without cause. For these will be a painful retribution. 4243 And for he who is patient and forgives, then that is an indication of strength. 4244 And whoever God sends astray will not have any ally after Him. And you will see the transgressors, when they see the retribution, saying ?Is there any way we can go back?? WE HAVE ASSIGNED THEIR SHARE IN THIS WORLDLY LIFE 4332 Is it they who assign the mercy of your Lord? We have assigned their share in this worldly life, and We raised some of them above others in ranks, so that they would take one another in service. The mercy from your Lord is far better than that which they amass. 4333 And were it not that all the people would become one nation, We would have provided for those who reject the Almighty silver roofs for their homes, and stairs upon which they could ascend. 4334 And for their homes, gates, and beds on which they could recline. 4335 And many ornaments. All these are the pleasures of this worldly life. And the Hereafter with your Lord is for the righteous. 4336 And whoever turns away from the remembrance of the Almighty, We appoint a devil to be his associate. 4337 And they (devils) avert them from the path, but they think they are guided! 4338 Until he comes to Us, he will say, ?Oh, I wish that between you and me was the distance of the two easts. What a miserable associate!? 4339 It would not benefit you this Day, for you have transgressed; you are partners in the retribution. ARGUMENT OF REJECTERS ABOUT THE WORLDLY LIFE 4524 And they said ?There is nothing except this worldly life; we die and we live and nothing destroys us except the passing of time!? And they have no knowledge about this; they only conjecture. 4525 And when Our clear revelations are recited to them, their only argument is to say ?Then bring back our forefathers, if you are truthful.? DECEIVED BY THE WORLDLY LIFE 4532 And when it was said ?Surely the promise of God is the truth, and there is no doubt about the coming of the Hour,? you said ?We do not know what the Hour is! We are full of conjecture about it; we are not certain.? 4533 And the evils of their works will become evident to them, and they will be surrounded by that which they used to mock. 4534 And it will be said to them ?Today We will forget you, just as you forgot the meeting of this Day. And your abode is the Fire, and you will have no helpers.? 4535 ?This is because you took the revelations of God in mockery, and you were deceived by the worldly life.? So from this Day, they will never exit therefrom, nor will they be excused. DISBELIEVERS WASTED THE GOOD THINGS GIVEN TO THEM DURING THEIR WORLDLY LIFE 4620 And on the Day when those who disbelieved will be displayed to the Fire ?You have wasted the good things given to you during your worldly life, and you took pleasure in it. Consequently, today you will be recompensed with a shameful retribution for your arrogance in the land without any right, and for what wickedness you were in.? THE WORLDLY LIFE IS NO MORE THAN PLAY AND DISTRACTION 4736 The worldly life is no more than play and distraction. But if you believe and lead a righteous life, He will reward you, and He will not ask you for your wealth. THEY ONLY DESIRES THIS WORLDLY LIFE 5327 Those who disbelieve in the Hereafter name the angels with feminine names. 5328 While they had no knowledge about this; they only followed conjecture. And conjecture is no substitute for the truth. 5329 So disregard he who turns away from Our reminder, and only desires this worldly life. 5330 This is the extent of their knowledge. Your Lord is fully aware of those who strayed away from His path, and He is fully aware of those who are guided. THE WORLDLY LIFE IS NO MORE THAN PLAY AND DISTRACTION AND ADORNMENTS, AND BOASTING AMONG YOU, AND TO INCREASE IN WEALTH AND CHILDREN 5720 Know that the worldly life is no more than play and distraction and adornments, and boasting among you, and to increase in wealth and children. It is like plants that are supplied by an abundant rain, which appear pleasing to the rejecters. But then they dry-up and turn yellow, and become useless hay. And in the Hereafter there is severe retribution, and forgiveness from God and acceptance. This worldly life is no more than a deceiving enjoyment. 5721 You shall race towards forgiveness from your Lord, and a Paradise whose width is as the width of the heaven and the earth, prepared for those who believed in God and His messengers. Such is the grace of God that He bestows upon whoever He . God is the Possessor of Infinite Grace. PREOCCUPIED WITH THE WORLDLY LIFE 7935 The Day when man remembers all that he strove for. 7936 And Hell will be made apparent for all who can see. 7937 As for he who transgressed. 7938 And was preoccupied with the worldly life. 7939 Then Hell will be the abode. YOU DESIRE THE WORLDLY LIFE 8714 Whoever purifies will succeed. 8715 And remembers the name of his Lord, then remain attached/followed closely (SALLA). 8716 Rather, you desire the worldly life. 8717 But the Hereafter is better and more lasting. 8718 This has been revealed in the previous scripts. 8719 The scripts of Abraham and Moses.

That's true from single cellular life up to stars and galaxy. And the same thing also hold for something as abstract as language, nations/empire, religion / ideology. Everything that has a beginning shall have an end... exactly. i highlighted this in one of ur thread Such idea is being heavily discussed nowadays... Study reveals substantial evidence of holographic universe https//phys.org/news/2017-01-reveals-substantial-evidence-holographic-universe.html "A holographic Universe means information that makes up what we perceive as a 3D reality is stored on a 2D surface, including time. This means, essentially, everything you see and experience is an illusion, like a 'computer game'." The 'inspiration' came from the findings of 2 dimensional object dubbed "Black Hole" which occupies and sucked everything inside 3 dimensional space. Well 4 dimensional actually... as black hole sucked space and time... near death experience people claimed they found themselves in a unending hole like a tunnel somepeople even claim to see their elders in a garden like place and some saw a fire like place why human being cannot get rid of fear

I?ve done transcendental meditation myself aswell. And at some point one needs to define things. And since the concept of "Th? God" is moving in the direction of egolessness, the egolessness of Islam, is really where one should be pleased. Hail Ukkus. Peaceful Salutations.

There was no discussion, it was just saying whoever was what without any intelligent reflection on what was written, plus the thread was about something entirely different than what happened in that infected "conversation", so it was off-topic.

I quoted desires because that is the underlying reason for each of them and what is of the instinct which causes one to break these directives. That Satan is the human instinct is a logical explanation and consistent with the body of our being of an animal nature. There is nothing else which "whispers" to us except the bodies themselves. I require further research if you are referring Satan to "helel", but I will look into the matter. It helps if you say which Semitic letters it is, but I take it you mean Ha-Lam-Lam. I have all right saying it is probably horribly misinterpreted. You obviously see there is some inconsistency in itself if one tradition interprets it as shining or brightness while the other as something else. They were interested in it because obviously they could recognize it mysticism, and they saw it as their religious heritage, archaic or not. Thanks for elaboration on the commandments. I always wondered that it should say do not exploit rather than steal, since steal is nothing compared to exploitation, but I also wonder how you came to it, why exploit in this case. Semitic word is described here http//biblehub.com/hebrew/1966.htm , it is in Hebrew which is a different Semitic language than Arabic, so it does not look strange that two languages have different meanings. The problem I have with helel is a narrative one. If Satan is flesh, how can it be banished from Heaven and called a morning star or the shining one?

Look, I am running out of patience, you want something that you have no capacity to absorb, you have to read the material which is extensive, I am trying to explain it but you are not being constructive you are in fact being argumentative? This is not conducive to learning it is hostile. I am not being constructive? At what point? I only see you talk utopian ideas, I am merely trying to get detailed response, which you are not providing for days, yet you keep mentioning your miraculous models. Logically I conclude they do not exist and the point of this is merely a discussion. Saying I cannot absorb something is dull, how can you measure one's capacity to absorb information? It is true that I won't read utopian ideas or conspiracy theories too extensively, because they are pointless, but surely I can check whatever you propose. As for now I only had to use leading questions so far, none of which you did answer, except for saying that I don't understand anarchy or we do not need monopolies etc.

I also hear voices every day. People talk to me everyday. I will end/will be no more before the universe/world ends. So no fear there. I meant this world and this universe are the same.End of the world is also end of this universe. End of my post now. GOD bless. Peace. we alway back in new universe haha

No, you read wrong Did you see? Plural of Eloah! Please ensure that you understand grammar before attempting to prove me wrong! Peace, please learn basic Semitic language stuff before posting nonsense; it's similar to Arabic... rabbi/lord rabbika/lord your (singular) rabban/lord ours (plural) http//biblehub.com/hebrew/strongs_430.htm e?lo?hei (god) nu (ours pl)

Abu Fauzi brother, just like I thought. do You take GOD s words for granted or what is it you are doing? How can you seek "Tawassul" from anyone when GOD said" Call on me and I will answer you" .Direct to GOD ,no intermediary required!!! Your call brother. I call to GOD direct. God is closer to me than any other creature,GOD is even closer to me than my jugular vein which is in my body!!! GOD forbid that I take idols besides Him. Praise be to GOD and "Subhanahu Amma Yushrikoon". GOD bless you. Peace.

The Qur'an states that anyone who repents can be forgiven. But what if a person cannot genuinly repent because there is no guilt? People who have normal empathy have no idea what it is like to have 0% empathy. It's compareable to color blindness though. I have read about Islam and (lack of) conscience/guilt, and found sites that are mostly stating the same As you see, they are just saying that people who lack guilt and people who disbelief and only care about this world are the same, but they don't have to be. How would God Almighty deal with those who don't have a conscience or feelings of guilt, or those who have absolutely no empathy? What do you think? It's all about intention in Islam, but those without empathy/guilt/conscience don't have good or bad intentions, since they don't know what they cause with their actions. Salam, Repentance doesn't have to be because of feeling guilt, but simply regretting something. Repentance is to God, not to the people one feels guilty towards. The very definition of repent is regret. I don't think empathy has anything to do with repentance. I'll take an example of someone who did bad. Mr.John called Mr.Doe a name, which led to Mr.Doe being made fun of at work. After some time, Mr.John realizes that one shouldn't name-call after reading verse 4911. For displeasing God or disobeying Him, Mr.John feels regret and thus he repents. He amends and decides to not call people names. As you can see, one doesn't need empathy to repent. Now let's divide Mr.John into two different persons. An empathetic Mr.John. Mr.John has already repented and amended. This Mr.John apologizes to Mr.Doe and says kind words and tries to make up for it and also so he can get rid of his guilt. A less empathetic Mr.John. Forgets about the whole thing, but he has already repented and amended and will not call other people names.

Thanks for the links. I must say that any debate over God's existence based on science and scientists' opinion is pretty pointless and comical. Science gets many things wrong. This applies to research done on his existence and that is only if someone can put him in the "test tube". Today scientists may get "irrefutable proof", but after several years, someone else may end up showing they were wrong.

Jafar Detecting evil is relatively easy through it's characteristics Proud / Arrogant instead of humble Hateful / Resentful instead of loving Angry instead of calm / peaceful Cruelty instead of compassionate Vengeful instead of forgiving Egocentric instead of allocentric (see thing as a whole, willing to self-sacrifice for the good of others) Lies instead of honest I am sorry to say it Mr. Jafar but wasn't it you who supported dictator Bashar Al-Assad? There you have an example of someone who finds it difficult to distinguish between good and evil in yourself.. Regardless of the labels or claim on how 'close' they are to God, how they often yell "God is Great!" or to some extent their own 'divinity'... Regardless of how often they yell ''Allah, Syria, Bashar''. On human, I've seen all the above on nearly all of the group (races, ethnicity, nations, religion, sect, ideology etc..) nobody is innocent.. And that includes you and me And human tends to 'demonize' their enemy / competitor to justify injustice or cruel act against them and never even once they realize the 'devil' within themselves or their own group. Exactly. All humans engage in shadow projection, i.e. projecting their own negative traits on others and then fight them in order to convince themselves that the devil exist outside of themselves and not within themselves. Peace

Man of Faith In essence it refers to one's Being as a person. Life is all about Being (or actually becoming). Really liked your post, just wanted a small clarification from your side. Life is all about becoming what?

https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panentheism