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What is the nature of God?

For those who question/doubt the nature/existence of a Creator.

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  • Is God Almighty

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    Peace All. This is part of the Greatness of The Author of the Qoran also. For those who claim there is no " 19 code " in Qoran or God has not counted the numbers 255 Recall that you said, "O Moses, we will not believe unless we see God, physically." Consequently, the lightning struck you, as you looked. *255 It is noteworthy that the word "GOD" in this verse is the 19th occurrence, and this is the verse where the people demanded "physical evidence." The Quran's mathematical code, based on the number 19, provides such physical evidence. Note also that 2+55=57=19x3. Why is this no coincidence? The word "God " ie " allah"is mentioned 18 times from , then from it is not mentioned at all. God uses " We" or "RAb" or " Me" in these verses, UNTIL where the word " Allah" ie God is mentioned for the " 19" time. Of course it cannot be coincidence! Check it to see this physical evidence yourself? This one drop from the ocean of proof that God provides in Qoran. Peace.
  • God's Care

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    thnx
  • Allah? really a name?was it?

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    However, in one way, I sometimes think it is probably better to think of Allah as a thing, rather than as a 'he' or some other personification... our minds are very limited. This is why. Due to the make up of language and our brains n minds. Salaam
  • Existence

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    Existence is the same as surprise. What do you think?
  • God's nature

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    But if we cannot understand the true nature of God, what now? Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth; a likeness of His light is as a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp is in a glass, (and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star, lit from a blessed olive-tree, neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not-- light upon light-- Allah guides to His light whom He pleases, and Allah sets forth parables for men, and Allah is Cognizant of all things. God tells us His true nature. The idea of an unknowable God is a lie perpetuated by those who would try to establish their own lordship upon humanity. We know who God is, "what" he is according to His own words, according to exploration of the universe and ourselves. Those who would love for you to feel ignorant distort two concepts a.) nothing can encompass God in awareness of things as God encompasses all things and b.) there is only one 'thing' that may be called 'allah', there exists nothing else like it. But the sectarians spin point a to mean that you can never know anything about God and that is totally incorrect. You do not know the movements of each individual cell in your body YET you totally understand who you are (God says this in the quran). You do not know anything about fluid dynamics but none but a self-defined fool would say he doesn't understand that the wind blows and the oceans wave. On point b, there are many things that could be called 'god' - the sun, moon, ra, zeus, jesus, etc. The one thing they all have in common none of them actually are God. These distortions serve to separate a man from that which is closer to him than he himself is and turn a crystal clear brilliantly shining light into a dark murky shadow of unknown fear within. God says that those who are CERTAIN of Him, and the hereafter are those who will enter paradise. How can one be CERTAIN without understanding?
  • Reasons why there can't be two Gods

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    Shalom Aleikhem, Yes why not? The more the merrier isn't it? If one god said no to our wishes, "I'm sorry Jafar, your donation is not enough, your prayer is rejected".. we can always lobbied the many other gods... And... who knows there's a god somewhere in dire need of donation and willing to grant my prayer with lower pay... Or.... even better.... I can hold a (reverse) auction... I invite those gods to an auction... and tell them my wishes... and let them bid a specific amount to grant my wishes... And I will convert to the religion of that specific god who say yes to my wishes (with money back guarantee of course) and bid with the lowest donation... Hell yeah... that's even better!! But unfortunately.. it doesn't work like that.... those gods are merely an 'imagery' of the priest... to get money from clueless (and dumb) folks.. Salam / Peace rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl very creative, liked it...lmao Peace ---------------- Student of Allah
  • Saying that God is only one in number is ignorant, is it?

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    Shlom'leikhem group I am sorry for a very late reply. I just haven't been to the forum for a long time. @Student of Allah, I am a pantheist. And yes we have one sun, but 2 elements hydrogen and helium make it up. Other 92 makes up everything else in the universe. There's also more than one reality and more than one universe with possible life on it. Although Quran (and other books) state that God is one, he is the only one that is synonymous with the universe but the way in which we potray numbers as a whole needs to change because for one person it's 1 glass of water and for the other it's 1/4 of a cup of water. @The very last post. Don't you think by saying he must be one puts a bound on him/her/it already?
  • Is Allah (swt) time?

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    Eternity is God. There is no other eternity. Still God is beyond time and dimensions, being unlimited. Eternity is an aspect of unlimitedness. But God is eternal, and there is no other eternal. There is no other eternal, because unlimitedness is also almightyness. And there is only one allmighty.
  • ALLAH and JUSTICE

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    I agree )
  • What is the source of Evil?

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    Satan threatens you with poverty and orders you to immorality, while Allah promises you forgiveness from Him and bounty. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing. Scarcity a factor in Evil. Rich people Evil because the scares in life expectancy, they don't live forever. why Iblees evil? It does not have the total freedom, ie heaven, free from Allah. To prevent evil is with good morality and abundance of human needs. Life extension technology also a way to prevent evil.
  • The Divine Feminine?

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    PEace all Interesting read... would like to hear your thoughts Could it be that Allah is neither male nor female because He is both? I don't mean genitals, but characteristics. Read on http//www.sol.com.au/kor/22_02.htm Fatimah, Mary and the Divine Feminine in Islam At the very core of Islamic philosophy there is evidence of what can be called a vision of the Motherhood of God. In the first Sura of the Koran, the Fatiha that is recited by millions of Muslims in their daily devotions, God is called Al Rahmin, the merciful and compassionate one. ?Ramin? is derived from the Arabic for ?womb? or ?matrix?, mercy is also a feminine attribute, and so Muslims are reminded that God can be either woman or man. Every day God is compared to a mother and woman. While the Muslim vision is often perceived to be authoritarian and punitive the Koran, on close inspection, is filled with descriptions and vision of God?s more feminine attributes such as gentleness, providence, love, universal compassion and tender-heartedness. Muhammad was himself a living example of the Divine?s infinite capacity for forgiveness many times he forgave enemies who had committed unspeakable atrocities against him and his brethren. The religious intolerance that characterises the behaviour of many Muslim communities today is inconsistent with the heritage of tolerance that is professed by the Islamic tradition. For example, the Koran clearly states in several passages that any person who lives a life of holy reverence is welcomed into paradise regardless of their religion. Muhammad openly praises both Judaism (Abraham is deeply respected within the Koran) and Christianity (Muhammad frequently praises Jesus and Mary in the Koran). Even more surprising is the Koran?s reverence for Mary, mother of Christ. Muhammad (and also in later Islamic theological scriptures) regarded Mary as the most marvellous of all women, a high adept and living example of the pure and holy life. Later Koranic commentaries describe Mary as an intervening force between God (Allah) and humanity. This intervening force is characterised by Allah?s mercy, forgiveness, sweetness and humility- the embodiment of Allah?s love for creation. When Muhammad retook Mecca he began a programme of removing the pagan influences from the Kaaba, the most holy of Muslim sites. He removed many frescoes and images that he considered inauspicious but he specifically left on the walls a fresco of the Virgin Mary and her child. In one of the most powerful Hadiths ( prophetic sayings of Muhammad) it is reported that Muhammad said, ?Paradise is at the feet of the Mother?. Does this suggest that the feminine aspect of God is an important and essential pathway to the attainment of supreme consciousness? Muhammad?s peak defining experience, called the Meraj, saw him elevated through the seven heavens to the realm of God Almighty at the resplendant Sidrath where he communed with God, received his divine visions and instructions and was placed on the inexorable course of his life-mission to establish Islam. Muhammad was escorted by the archangel Gabriel (a masculine force) but the vehicle upon which Muhammad rode was the beautiful ?Buraq?. The Buraq was a white horse with wings and the face of a woman! Clearly suggesting that the great power by which Muhammad was elevated to the level of supreme consciousness was ultimately feminine in nature! Some scholars say that the Buraq is an Islamic symbol of the Kundalini, a force that Eastern Yogis describe as the Goddess or Divine Mother. Fatimah is another prominent female in the Islamic tradition. Muhammad revered Fatimah as if she were a divine being, saying "Allah, The Most High; is pleased when Fatimah is pleased. He is angered; whenever Fatimah is angered!" Whenever Fatimah would go to the house of Muhammad, he would stand up out of respect for her and honour her by giving her a special place to seat herself in his house. He regarded her as a sort of primordial woman, a symbol of divine womanhood giving her many holy names, such as Siddiqah; The Honest, The Righteous; Al-Batool, Pure Virgin; Al-Mubarakah, The Blessed One; .Al-Tahirah, The Virtuous, The Pure, Al-Zakiyah ;The Chaste, The Unblemished ;Al-Radhiatul Mardhiah, She who is gratified and who shall be satisfied; Al-Muhaddathah, A person other than a Prophet, that the angels speak to; Al-Zahra, The Splendid; Al-Zahirah, The Luminous. Shias revere the person of Fatimah, Muhammad's daughter and mother of the line of inspired imams who embodied the divine truth for their generation. As such, Fatimah is associated with Sophia, the divine wisdom, which gives birth to all knowledge of God. She has thus become another symbolic equivalent of the Great Mother. Sunni Islam has also drawn inspiration from the female. The philosopher Muid ad-Din ibn al-Arabi (1165-1240) saw a young girl in Mecca surrounded by light and realised that, for him, she was an incarnation of the divine Sophia. He believed that women were the most potent icons of the sacred, because they inspired a love in men which must ultimately be directed to God, the only true object of love. More generally speaking Muslims are reminded in the Koran that humans can experience and speak about God only in symbols. Everything in the world is a sign (aya) of God; so women can also be a revelation of the divine. Ibn al-Arabi argued that humans have a duty to create theophanies for themselves, by means of the creative imagination that pierces the imperfect exterior of mundane reality and glimpses the divine within. The faculty of imagination is commonly associated with the Divine Feminine. While official Islam may not consistently describe the role of the Divine Feminine, this principle has been described and explored at length in the more esoteric Islamic tradition of Sufism. Sufism emphasises passionate, mystical adoration of God. Many Sufis (and other mystics in other religions) seek a spiritual union between themselves and the divine principle not unlike that between a child (the Sufi) and his mother (God) or a bride (Sufi) and the husband (God). The Sufi poetry teaches the feminine qualities of joy, love, tenderness and self sacrifice on a path of true knowledge derived from the spiritual heart. The spiritual rebirth of the individual is not unlike the trial and tribulation of physical childbirth, according to the Sufis. They take the principle of divine love and use it to facilitate the process of alchemical transformation from mundane human to spiritual being. The fanaticism that we see in modern Islam is a new development in a religion that, in its early history, was famous for its tolerance and respect for other religions. In Islam?s classical period in medieval Spain and Egypt perhaps only Buddhism rivalled Islam?s tolerance. The fundamentalism that characterises the behaviour of many of today?s Muslims is in fact anti-Koranic. A Sufi Ode to the Divine Mother On the face of the earth there is no one more beautiful than You Wherever I go I wear your image in my heart Whenever I fall in a despondent mood I remember your image And my spirit rises a thousand fold Your advent is the blossom time of the Universe O Mother you have showered your choicest blessings upon me Also remember me on the Day of Judgement I don?t know if I will go to heaven or hell But wherever I go, please always abide in me. ?Copyright Knowledge of Reality Magazine 1996-2006. All rights reserved. Any comments, queries please email us. Too long; didn't read.
  • Is God a Man?

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    Salam, Sometimes I totally miss the point. Can someone rephrase the topic for me please ? For now, Is God a man ? Are you seriously asking me if God evolved from Apes which He himself created and repeated his creation ? Since I can not be my own father, i reject any similar idea. ------------------ Student of Allah
  • What's the problem with the 'illusion of free will'

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    My view on this is that God knows what will happen/has happened/etc. We do not. It is on us to make our own decisions and follow our own paths which we choose. However, God already knows that, and whether we like it or not, we are following His absolute will.
  • Is Treating Allah as A God = Shirk ???

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    Yes brother, I agree with you. I suspected that it would not be obvious from my wording... but I had baked this into having a "good concept" of Allah. If you have a good concept you will naturally use good names... and as long as you are familiar with the Quran, you would use the good names from it. What I also meant was that it is your concept of Allah and you goodness in your heart that determines what names you use for the Creator, not the other way round. I'm aware that language does indeed have an influence on our thoughts and the way we think and think about things. Like for example, people with languages that have words for many nuances of colors are able to easily distinguish between these different shades of colors while people of other languages that may more or less only have words for primary and secondary colors may not be able to easily distinguish between for example sky blue, light blue, deep blue, royal blue and marine blue. The same way one could possibly think that the names one uses for the Creator may influence one's concept of the same. It would of course not have any greater influence if one has a sound, clear and healthy concept of the Creator... but it's an interesting subject. I mean, the whole christian world, and many languages, support the idea of a male god. Even if we disregard the idea of Jesus being God, and Jesus being male, people still refer to God (with no Jesus in mind) as "him", "Lord", "Heavenly Father" etc. This might feel more natural and neutral due to one's cultural influence, but it does give a wrong impression of God... or Allah. In this case, the name DOES INDEED influence one's concept of the Creator, even though people may deny this and intellectually insist they believe their god is genderless. Language is still there to taint your thinking. This is why the word/name Allah is so good. No gender. No derivations. Of course, the good names/description are also genderless. It is up to us to force ourselves to not have any shades of gender in mind while saying/thinking Allah, Al Rahman, Al Raheem... All the best, and Peace!
  • "proof" of God

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    Yes exactly that is the way with our language, but then even with the limited facilities we have, isn't it far easier to think of Allah in the "HERE" (as we try to think beyond space) and in the "NOW" (as we try to think beyond time) and to experience what Allah is--Al-Rahman, Al-Rahim. This, IMHO, is the more correct direction that anyone can practice and prove to him/herself in this finite life, even as we're 'trapped' in the spatial/temporal thinking. Personally I find it good to think of Allah's AWARENESS to be 'here'. This is just a way of thinking. This way our minds can think of Allah as 'here' without attempting to "solve it all". How creation is actually composed... spirit, energy or something else... that I don't have a grasp on and I don't think it matter to have all details worked out... and I guess it's not even possible. As far as time is concerned... all there is is NOW... past and future exist only in our minds, but if one's mind likes to think in terms of time lines, then one can think that Allah is "sitting" outside the time frame (beginning to now to end of times) being able to "look at" all times in history at once. So as far as one self is concerned, one obviously has to think of Allah as NOW, since you yourself is NOW, but Allah is not bound and trapped in time. We can think of Allah through his good qualities and beautiful names... since we cannot grasp "him" otherwise. All the best, Peace!
  • What is One?

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    ^^^ just read it today bro. Such societies wont' necessarily be completely isolated -- not even partially. And it's not going to be any specific society 'made from scratch' either, it seems. Just what's already there, in the countries that are most ready, advancing following the inhabitant's raised consciousness. And what's great about living now is that, all those "old energy", the power hungry dictators controlling by fear and such and such etc will not fit in to the "new energy". We simply won't let it be. Corrupt leaders are visibly falling down now. And so will those 'invisible powers' scheming One World Government, perhaps in an invisible way too. Who knows, maybe they with their plans will actually be of help to the grand scheme of all? Maybe we're indeed entering a period of "unification"--just not in a way we thought it to be? We were sent a lineage of messengers because we weren't able to find (i.e. remember) the message within ourselves. Not to say we can all do that now without any divine help. There is always ongoing divine help. It's just that it was much harder to find who you are inside then than it is now. but that's just my opinion. Nothing wrong with religions so long as it's not enforced (physically or otherwise). Trust humans, brother. Collectively, we're not as foolish as we made ourselves look like. For the times, they are-a-changin'....
  • Who is our rubb???

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    Salam and Peace on you, brother! Salaaman rahenijaat1, My Rabb is Allah. 4130 4131 4132 4130 Those who have said Our Lord is Allah, then they remained, the angels will come down upon them You shall not fear, nor shall you grieve. Rejoice in the good news of the Paradise that you have been promised. 4131 We are your allies in this worldly life and in the Hereafter. In it you will have anything your soul desires, and in it you will have anything you ask for. 4132 A dwelling, from a Forgiver, Merciful May Allah guide us all to His only path pr Mohammed M. Khan Subhan Allah! Alhamdolillah! Jazak Allahu Khairan!
  • The Concept Of A Cyclical Universe: From A Quranic Viewpoint

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    I can't understand how people can claim that the "sab'ah samawaat" is somehow referring to "7 universes", while very clearly at the time of the Qur'anic revelation people had a geocentric worldview The earth surrounded by the seven celestial bodies.(The Ptolemaic model.) Honestly,- people use their imagination far too freely in reading the Qur'an Why do people project their own views on the Qur'an? A little more research on the background would clear things up. 056.075 - But nay! I swear by the falling of stars; 056.076 -And most surely it is a very great oath if you only knew; Guess what dude, general relativity came way after the quran was revealed. And now that it is understood we know why ALLAH swearing by the falling/places of stars is such a great oath; These two concepts are identical in general relativity, truly does ALLAH know all to choose one word with the perfect dual meaning. Don't limit al-quran to a time when the currency was camels, it does not befit the creator of THE WHOLE FRICKIN UNIVERSE that you say he can't write a timeless book. I can only really speak for myself but I can fairly assume that most people on this forum don't give a damn about the whole concoction of history to "explain the quran" and would prefer to let it speak for itself. Don't quote me on that. Of course, that's not to say that the idea of seven universes is any more or less true, but do keep in mind that baseless ahadeeth are not the way to go when studying such a potent book.
  • The Golden Rule - His messenger speaks

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    Congratulations. You are his first believer He was the second, I was the first.. ) Salam / Peace
  • A reason to believe in God

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    If anything, life is all about 2. It's all polarity. Yes that is what I see too(2) PEACE