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A Question About Jinns

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    Bosnian_Thinker
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    bravo

    He wasn't allowed to either from what I understand from these verses...

    Had he uttered any other teachings - We would have punished him - We would have stopped the revelations to him (644-46)

    Of course, you can show evidence like this to the Sunnis and Shi'ites but most of them won't listen.

    Peace peace

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      MUNZIR_ALI
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      bravo

      He wasn't allowed to either from what I understand from these verses...

      Had he uttered any other teachings - We would have punished him - We would have stopped the revelations to him (644-46)

      bravo

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        Rev_John
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        bravo

        I am quite sure that no one who believes that God is love would condone the mutilation of women (or men for that matter)

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          MUNZIR_ALI
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          I am quite sure that no one who believes that God is love would condone the mutilation of women (or men for that matter)

          handshake bravo

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            Rami
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            I am quite sure that no one who believes that God is love would condone the mutilation of women (or men for that matter)

            But isn't male circumcision mandated by YHVH in His Torah??

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              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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              bravo

              He wasn't allowed to either from what I understand from these verses...

              Correct.

              Had he uttered any other teachings - We would have punished him - We would have stopped the revelations to him (644-46)

              Inaccurate/erronous translation, plus you gave a wrong citation.

              6943 A revelation from the Lord of the worlds
              6944 And if he had ascribed his sayings/anything falsely to Us

              6945 We would have seized him by the right
              6946 Then, We would have severed his life-line
              6947 None of you would be able to prevent it

              6948 This is a reminder for the righteous
              6949 We know that some of you are deniers
              6950 And that it is a distress for the rejecters

              6951 It is the absolute truth

              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                nsws1988
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                Correct.

                Inaccurate/erronous translation, plus you gave a wrong citation.

                6943 A revelation from the Lord of the worlds
                6944 And if he had ascribed his sayings/anything falsely to Us

                6945 We would have seized him by the right
                6946 Then, We would have severed his life-line
                6947 None of you would be able to prevent it

                6948 This is a reminder for the righteous
                6949 We know that some of you are deniers
                6950 And that it is a distress for the rejecters

                6951 It is the absolute truth

                Which translation do you have and what makes it correct?

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                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                  Which translation do you have and what makes it correct?

                  You've used Rashad Khalifa's translation and concerning these verses it is inaccurate AKA bad. Just compare his with the other ones on www.quranix.net

                  I'm not saying that his is overall bad, to the contrary, I think it is one of the best, but sometimes/many times it just isnt literal/good.

                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                    nsws1988
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                    You've used Rashad Khalifa's translation and concerning these verses it is inaccurate AKA bad. Just compare his with the other ones on www.quranix.net

                    I'm not saying that his is overall bad, to the contrary, I think it is one of the best, but sometimes/many times it just isnt literal/good.

                    No offense but do you think RK is a messenger? If so, you think he can't translate the Quran properly? hmm

                    I only used that because it is the Progressive Muslims translation too according to submission.org.

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                      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                      No offense but do you think RK is a messenger? If so, you think he can't translate the Quran properly? hmm

                      I only used that because it is the Progressive Muslims translation too according to submission.org.

                      rotfl

                      Misconception Rashad Khalifa was infallible.
                      Truth Rashad Khalifa was fallible

                      Fact the translation of those verses is not literal.
                      Check other ones. The literal translation brings across the message way better.

                      Fact orignially, he only wanted to translate the Quran for his family and himself, because he saw distortions in traditional translations - he wanted to make a monotheist translation - not a sectarian/traditionalist one. Then he discovered the numerical pattern.

                      Peace

                      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                        Rev_John
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                        But isn't male circumcision mandated by YHVH in His Torah??

                        No. Only for the Jews. It does say about the "uncircumcised" being welcomed

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                          Rami
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                          No. Only for the Jews. It does say about the "uncircumcised" being welcomed

                          From a pure Torah perspective, what is the obligations of the other nations in order to be blessed?

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                            Rev_John
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                            From a pure Torah perspective, what is the obligations of the other nations in order to be blessed?

                            To believe in the one true God and adhere to his laws

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                              Rami
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                              To believe in the one true God and adhere to his laws

                              What laws? What is the reference?

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                                Rev_John
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                                What laws? What is the reference?

                                The 10 commandments

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                                  Rami
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                                  The 10 commandments

                                  Why did you strip these 10 out of the whole Torah??

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                                    afridi220
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                                    rotfl

                                    Misconception Rashad Khalifa was infallible.
                                    Truth Rashad Khalifa was fallible

                                    Fact the translation of those verses is not literal.
                                    Check other ones. The literal translation brings across the message way better.

                                    Fact orignially, he only wanted to translate the Quran for his family and himself, because he saw distortions in traditional translations - he wanted to make a monotheist translation - not a sectarian/traditionalist one. Then he discovered the numerical pattern.Peace

                                    So he discovered the numerical pattern by chance and decided to announce that he is a messanger? hmm

                                    Then what is wrong with anthony why not accepting him poor anthony

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                                      nsws1988
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                                      poor anthony

                                      '(

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                                        Why did you strip these 10 out of the whole Torah??

                                        6151 Say ?Come let me recite for you what your Lord has forbidden for you that you should not set up anything with Him; and be kind to your parents; and do not kill your children for fear of poverty, We provide for you and for them; and do not come near lewdness, what is plain of it or subtle; and do not kill the soul which God has forbidden, except in justice. That is what He enjoined you that you may comprehend.?

                                        6152 ?And do not come near the money of the orphan, except for what is best, until he reaches his independence; and give honestly full measure and weight equitably. We do not burden a soul except by what it can bear, and if you speak then be just even if against a relative; and regarding the pledges made to God, you shall observe them. This He has enjoined you that you may remember.?

                                        6153 And this is My path, a Straight One. ?So follow it, and do not follow the other paths lest they divert you from His path. That is what He has enjoined you to that you may be righteous.?

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                                          Rami
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                                          6151 Say Come let me recite for you what your Lord has forbidden for you that you should not set up anything with Him; and be kind to your parents; and do not kill your children for fear of poverty, We provide for you and for them; and do not come near lewdness, what is plain of it or subtle; and do not kill the soul which God has forbidden, except in justice. That is what He enjoined you that you may comprehend.

                                          6152 And do not come near the money of the orphan, except for what is best, until he reaches his independence; and give honestly full measure and weight equitably. We do not burden a soul except by what it can bear, and if you speak then be just even if against a relative; and regarding the pledges made to God, you shall observe them. This He has enjoined you that you may remember.

                                          6153 And this is My path, a Straight One. So follow it, and do not follow the other paths lest they divert you from His path. That is what He has enjoined you to that you may be righteous.

                                          Where is the Sabbath?!??

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